From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #107 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 9 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 107 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: March 8 [les@jmdl.com] RE: We'll make great pets (njc) ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: We'll make great pets (njc) [colin ] Grace Slick, NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] Chalk Mark [Dave Cuneo ] Re: Grace Slick, NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Kim Carnes in Atlanta; NJC [Abbymusique@aol.com] Re: Judy Collins NJC [Abbymusique@aol.com] Misc Stuff (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Sunnytime Soup selected as preferred cd(njc) [] Re:We'll make great pets (njc) [Gil Lamont ] Re: Grace Slick, Jim Morrison NJC ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Chalk Mark/Rhythm ["Blair Fraipont" ] Eva Cassida (vljc) [Lindsay Moon ] Grace Slick NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] America's Best ... (tangential JC) ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: TCCOL [Susan McNamara ] The Boho Dance [Gary Zack ] Re: The Boho Dance [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Boho Dance [Les Irvin ] that freaky-ass anne heche and julie cypher njc [evian Subject: RE: We'll make great pets (njc) >>Veterinarian Elliot Katz, speaking before the city's Commission of Animal Control and Welfare, specifically compared the term change to the struggle to end human slavery as well as the women's suffrage movement.<< A veterinarian called 'katz'? Is this a joke? Probably not. Here in Catalonia, the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries is called Sr. Peix. 'Peix', as Big Walt knows ;-) is 'fish' in Catalan. And the word 'pet' in Catalan means 'fart' in English. And the word 'fart' in Catalan means 'tired of ' or 'fed up with'. And those of you who have been to see the Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona will have passed a restaurant called Ca'n Fart. (Casa de Fart in Spanish) It always gets a laugh out of the Brits who come to see the race. They queue up to take photos, but then brits were always crazy about fart jokes, as well as jokes based on other bodily functions. I wonder why. I liked Julius' synchronicity story, and Colin's too. Mike in bcn NP Horace Silver  Senor Blues - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:48:45 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: We'll make great pets (njc) The other night there was a documentary about dogs and how they have evolved. The main thrust of it was that they are parasites and have been very clever in their evolution in relation to we humans. Their beahviour towards us has evolved to be of benefit to them. they get food and shelter out of it. They adopt us as their family. This adoption thing is also why they herd cattle and sheep etc. The barking when someone comes to the door and like behaviour is about protecting their 'family'. Their appealing wasy, soft eys, silly beahviour etc is all about keeping us sweet so they get fed. Obviously the doc went into mor detail about all this and showed how this started many years ago. This was abetter doc than some on dogs. There has been a spate oft hem sayuing that if we allow dogs to sleep in our beds, or on the bavck of setees etc we are letting them be top dog which we should be. Bollocks to that. my dogs know exactly who is boss and they know the peking order. Until recently i had thought Brad was the 2nd in command after me. He can be a stroppy bastard and all th others back off him. Until that is he had a go at Martha. She wanted to get in his bed. He went for her. She immediately went back at him. Poor Brad was so shcoked. He immediately sat down and hung his head. He then smneaked away behind the armchair and Martha got in his bed. Now Martha gets to sleep in his bed whenever she wants and he lies outside, looking at her. So Martha is the boss really but she lets Brad behave as if he is! (sound familair, girls?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:43:47 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Grace Slick, NJC > From: "Blair Fraipont" > Subject: Grace Slick NJC > > Grace Slick. What was her deal? I have seen the behind the > music on VH1 and heard stories and she was a definite rock and roller, but > why did she get so much attention. I guess I just dont get her. I never > cared for her style of singing and never thought she was a great personality > that resonated well with the passing of time. I am just curious about > hearing other people's perspectives whether they be negative or positive. > Blair > NP, "Across the Borderline" Ry Cooder > Everything else being equal, and not to take away from Mark E.'s analysis, IMHO Grace Slick exhuded sex. I don't mean she was a sex symbol. I mean everything in her demeanor, attitude and even her voice was highly sexual, sort of a queen bee if you want. In those times of free love, she personified it to me. Listen to Triad about a "minage ` trois" with Crosby and Kantner and you'll get the idea. Laurent PS: Love to see you're listening to RY, any trade??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:20:30 -0500 From: Dave Cuneo Subject: Chalk Mark " Cool Water, Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm. > I like this song." I think "Number One" and "Beat of Black Wings" are two of Joni's more brilliant songs. I don't like "Lakota" though :~) Ciao, Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:50:44 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Grace Slick, NJC > Everything else being equal, and not to take away from Mark E.'s analysis, > IMHO Grace Slick exhuded sex. > I don't mean she was a sex symbol. I mean everything in her demeanor, > attitude and even her voice was highly sexual, sort of a queen bee if you > want. In those times of free love, she personified it to me. > Listen to Triad about a "minage ` trois" with Crosby and Kantner and you'll > get the idea. I wouldn't disagree with this. She was one woman I always thought would be a lot of fun to have sex with. When Roseanne was interviewing her, Grace talked about a one night stand she had with Jim Morrison (she went to his room & knocked on the door). Roseanne, in her not-so-subtle-way, asked 'What other famous people did you have sex with?' to which Grace replied without missing a beat, 'all the members of my band except Marty'. Grace was pretty much doing what the men were doing in the world of rock and roll stardom, picking & choosing & having her fun with pretty much whoever she wanted. The VH1 segment also featured interviews with Grace & Paul Kantner's daughter, China. China sounded a lot like Saffy talking about Eddy on AbFab. One more footnote to my original post and a wee bit of Joni content. The Airplane appeared on the famous post-Woodstock Dick Cavett show with Crosby & Stills and Joni. After Joni performed her first song on this show, Grace was the first person on her feet, applauding enthusiastically. In her book, Grace talks about meeting Joni in those years and thinking she was very fragile. She didn't think she should mess with this person too much so she pretty much aimed her come-on-strong, confrontational personality elsewhere. She has since realized that Joni was & is a very strong person. But when she saw Joni in a restaurant a few years back, Grace said she didn't have the guts to speak to somebody who had worked with Charles Mingus. Sounds like Grace has a great deal of respect for and a certain amount of awe of our Joni. Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:01:29 EST From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Kim Carnes in Atlanta; NJC Has anyone out there ever been a fan of Kim Carnes? She'll be singing this friday and Saturday night at Swallow At the Hollow in Roswell, GA, the place being an offshoot of the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville. They send Bluebird regulars down to Roswell every weekend to do an 'In The Round' type thing. For what it's worth, my opinion is that Kim Carnes is a great solo artist who was pretty much overlooked after her big hit "Bette Davis Eyes". I'm a big fan, and had that album and all her subsequent ones in the eighties and early nineties, and I think she's great. Her voice is husky, scratchy, but wonderful, and her songwriting is good as well. I couldn't believe it when I saw her name on the line-up, for I haven't heard about her for years now. Anyone else a fan of hers? If so, and you live in the Atlanta area, the performance is Mar.8 &9 , and the number to call for The Swallow at the Hollow is (678)352-1975. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:11:15 EST From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Re: Judy Collins NJC My favorite albums by her areWhales and Nightingales and Judy. When I was a kid, I could get lost in her song "Houses" which was a bit like a fairy tale to me, as well as "Pirate Ships". I just love the song "Time passes Slowly", for I lived in Colorado seven years and her songs made me think of the mountains and our daytrips to Estes Park and Rocky Mountain National Park. For me, setting is important to my appreciation of music. Is that true for anyone else? I like music where I can get lost in the beauty of the music and the beauty of the scenery around me as I drive in my car. Abbymusique ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:08:33 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Misc Stuff (NJC) Blair asked: >Grace Slick. What was her deal? Well, for me...the Airplane was one of the first bands I ever saw that totally blew me away. When they were on, they were terrific. So I admired Grace for her part in that. There was also the sociological aspect - the Airplane were very much a "revolutionary" voice in the '60s. Although tame by today's standards, it was...what?...stunning? liberating?...to hear a woman say f**k on stage. Not just in that, but I think Grace had a big influence on a lot of people. And it WAS a great band... and Jacky wrote: >Anyway, if you want to read more about him, he gets a fair amount of >coverage in Colin Harper's excellent book, "Bert Jansch and the British Folk >and Blues Revival" which is a really good read. I agree! I don't think the book has been released in the US, but is available from Amazon, etc. It is a fascinating look at the whole British acoustic scene in the '60s and '70s. and Jerry asked: >My messages to Michael (Paz) are getting bounced from telocity. Anyone heard >from him lately? He (though in his bathrobe:) )was fine last Friday when Michele and I said goodbye to him. He WAS worried about the seaplane ride we were about to take (including a landing in a bayou!) and muttered something about hoping he inherited my dulcimers...Someone else said he was having e-mail problems? We had a terrific time visiting him, Freda, Julian and Mikey. They are really fine people, and watching the Grammys with them while participating in the Paz Family Grammy Sweepstakes (TM) was hilarious. New Orleans is a hoot, and we have to go back. Three days was nowhere near enough time. On the first night we went out to the Paz's fave local seafood eatery... Michael orders: "We'll *start* with three dozen oysters, three pounds of crawfish and the seafood appetizer plate." Aaaaaaagh! Be afraid, be very afraid... and, back to Grace, my buddy Mark wrote: >The song 'rejoyce' is based on James Joyce's 'Ulysses', a book that >I own but have never gotten up the courage to attempt reading. Mark, you can do it! Pick up a copy of Anthony Burgess' 'Rejoyce' - yep, same as the song title - to help you along, and launch into it. It contains some of the richest writing you will ever encounter. If I were allowed to have only one book on my desert island, it might have to be 'Ulysses' - you could be absorbed by that book for a LONG time. Had a great time at Folk Alliance in Jacksonville, in St. Augustine, Pensacola, Fairhope Alabammy (where are you, Kammy?), Biloxi and of course New Orleans. But it's always nice to come home! - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:14:06 -0500 From: Subject: Sunnytime Soup selected as preferred cd(njc) This is a message from Holley regarding her cd Sunnytime Soup which has gotten some attention on MP3.com Don't get too excited. I'm not famous or rich yet. But I am happy about this latest development. Two days ago we uploaded nine songs to mp3, the largest online music site where people can click on music and listen to songs, order cds to be sent to them or have mp3 make a "net" cd that can be downloaded. In just a couple of days my children's cd, "Sunnytime Soup" has been selected as the preferred cd for children's music. If you go to the children's music page, "Sunnytime Soup" will be right up there at the top of the page. The number of hits I have gotten so far have brought me up from the ten thousandth position to 212th. Hits don't mean sales, but I am getting sales from it already. The more hits I get the longer Sunnytime Soup will have preferred status and the more sales I will get. Will you help me? Just go to the mp3.com site. Click on children's music. Download a song or better yet order a cd. It's pretty cool how it works. Check it out. Then send an email to those who might care to help by hitting my mp3 site. Thanks so much. (Holley Howard: Laura and Julie Anne's mom) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:31:58 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re:We'll make great pets (njc) jan gyn forwarded: >No matter how strange things get, there is always solace in knowing that >there is only one San Francisco. City officials were urged last week to >adopt the term "pet guardian'' instead of "pet owner" as part of the >emancipation of animals from their human overlords. This is old news. In the animal rights (a-r) community (in the suburbs of which I reside although I have to take frequent trips to the business center), "pet" long ago became "companion animal," "owner" became "caretaker," and "brutal" is a no-no as the root is "brute," i.e. "beast" i.e. "animal." This PCness is just the tip of the iceberg. Residents of the a-r inner city find very little of this to be a joking matter. Gil NP: Captain Beefheart, "Low Yo Yo Stuff" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:31:50 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Re: Grace Slick, Jim Morrison NJC When Roseanne was interviewing her, Grace > talked about a one night stand she had with Jim Morrison (she went to his > room & knocked on the door> This reminds me of some news I just found out about: The official version is that Jim died in his hotel room in Paris. Well I know someone who was in a bar in Montmartre (in Paris) that very evening and Jim OD'd and died in the toilet. Scoop for JMDL only. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:42:35 -0500 From: Subject: Messianen organ works? (njc) Anyone familiar with the composer Messianen? A touring organist will be in Atlanta this Saturday, peforming his entire works for organ for free starting at 1:00 pm and ending at 9:30, performing on a very nice pipe organ at the Cathedral in Buckhead. I was thinking I would try to catch some of it. The last time I went to an organ recital was in Guadalajara in '90...I remember being overwhelmed by the sheer power and passion conveyed in the music... Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:37:35 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Chalk Mark/Rhythm >" Cool Water, Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm. > > I like this song." > > I think "Number One" and "Beat of Black Wings" are two of Joni's more >brilliant songs. I don't like "Lakota" though :~) >Ciao, Dave. Actually, Chalk Mark was one of those albums at first that I sort of Sulked at and put away for boring days, but sure enough, I began to enjoy the layered sound of it and I realized what was attractive to me about the album, The Rhythm.. It has this "Tribal" rhythm.. I dont know if that is a good descriptor, but you can sort of shake your hips to it in a way. The combination of drums and bass and guitar and keyboards, especially on "Lakota" and "Number One" serve this "tribal" feeling. I should proabably listen to it more and do a better opinion piece on it. Overall, it is not a favorite album, aside from Rhythm, not too cohesive, yet some of my favorite songs are on there. Blair _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:00:24 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Eva Cassida (vljc) After stopping in at a Starbuck's yesterday, I noticed instantly the words to "Woodstock" coming over the stereo. I couldn't ID the female singer, though, and asked the counter person (oh, excuse me, barista -- ha!) While he was making the coffee and then checking, the man next to me and some others offered up these guesses: Jewel, Sheryl Crow, and Judy Collins to which I hissed, "No! It's Joni Mitchell's song!" (Hmm, pretty testy for a decaf drinker.) Turns out it was Eva Cassidy. Beautiful guitar work as well as voice. I'd never heard her before. Perhaps I'll go seek her out with my Valentine's Day gift certificate to Borders from my lovely husband. It just strikes me as odd (because I am odd) that people don't take in the specific qualities of a person's voice, just throw out any singer's name. Kind of an 'oh, some female' attitude. Whereas I can ID people's voice-overs on commercials in 10 words or less. It's peculiar, I know. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:27:36 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Grace Slick NJC Well back in the day, Grace was one of the reining queens of rock & roll...about the time Joni was pegged as a hippy goddess (& of course Janis was another). They emerged out of the San Francisco scene which at that time was a Mecca for all things new & exciting...music was a huge part of it. You know, peace & love man. I remember Grace & the Airplane as being one of the originators (maybe the most prominent) of a new style of psychedelic rock & roll. Grace was rebellious, intelligent, wild & a little bit tough. I thought she was beautiful & her voice was so powerful & unique. Along with Somebody to Love, I recall the song White Rabbit was HUGE. Looking back, I think its appeal was that many of us were really still kids looking for a fairytale way of life. I saw her during her peak at the Filmore East, then a year or so later at Woodstock. The Airplane set was one of the highlights from my Woodstock experience. They played at sunrise after the rainstorms had passed. I can't recall which song it was now, but it was the perfect soundtrack for the beautiful new day & one of the most profound combinations of music complementing nature. >>>Grace Slick. What was her deal? I have seen the behind the music on VH1 and heard stories and she was a definite rock and roller, but why did she get so much attention. I guess I just dont get her.<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:27:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: America's Best ... (tangential JC) Lucinda got this last year...did she get this again? I thought it was cool that she was recognized for this. She's in her late 40's, not beautiful, doesn't have a multirange, gorgeous voice. It really was about her songwriting, not her image. Refreshing! The "Time Almanac 2002 with Information Please(R)" has a section called "America's Best." America's Best Songwriter: Lucinda Williams, squib by Emmylou Harris. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:53:56 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: RE: TCCOL >If you were to play "The Crazy Cries of Love" in standard tuning (or as I >like to call it when playing Joni, stranded tuning) beginning with a D major shape ... Ahh, Will, go ahead and retune, we won't tell anyone!! Believe me, once you start alternating you will never return to the stranded island! :-) http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/thecrazycriesoflove-hw-c.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/thecrazycriesoflove-md-c.cfm oh, oh, my my ...:-) - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:43:00 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: The Boho Dance A friend of mine was over to visit a few evenings ago. He "likes" Joni (but is not a diehard fan) and said to me, "Gary, you know the thing I like most about Joni is the way she puts sounds together on her records." (I think he prefers Joni's later material.) It's not just her voice, or her lyrics or the song itself but the WAY she takes certain sounds and blends them together. The chord progressions, surprising background vocals, etc. She's really a genius when it comes to how she blends sounds together in such a unique way." Then he mentioned liking the song "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" so much (which of course I was happy to immediately play for him) and to my surprise, used that song as an example. I had a pretty good idea of where he was coming from, and then I played him a couple of things from HOSL and the HOSL demos to give him an idea of how some songs sound stripped down. Then came the question. He said, "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the word "Boho" mean?" I was rather struck silent and wasn't sure how to explain it to him, or even if I had the right interpretation of this song. And it's one of my favorite songs on HOSL. I really haven't seen it discussed in detail before, being on the list only nearing two years, so I ask all who are willing - or if it has been discussed before and are still willing - to give me your interpretation of the song and the word "Boho" so I won't look like such a Bozo next time someone asks me! Thanks! Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:54:22 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Boho Dance << "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the word "Boho" mean?" >> Joni takes the idea from Thomas Wolfe's "The Painted Word"...Wolfe coined the phrase in his book (credited as the source in Joni's liner notes), where he descibes the codependence of the bohemian aspects of the art world with the establishment. The verse that sorta sums it up: You read those books where luxury Comes as a guest to take a slave Books where artists in noble poverty Go like virgins to the grave Don't you get sensitive on me 'Cause I know you're just too proud You couldn't step outside the Boho dance now Even if good fortune allowed I think it discusses the relationship between the artist who's not necessarily concerned with being famous, and the wealthy & powerful in the same art world that either celebrate or condemn the artist for being that way. I'm not sure if Joni was prejecting herself as the artist who attempted to reject fame or if she was thinking of somebody else. Much more to say about the song, but I'll leave it to others. Bob NP: Milkshakes, "I Won't Be There" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:34:26 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: The Boho Dance At 3/8/2002 07:43 PM, Gary Zack wrote: >Then came the question. He >said, "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the >word "Boho" mean?" This has been discussed a bit in the past. Here's one opinion: http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/bohodance.cfm Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:36:51 -0600 From: evian Subject: that freaky-ass anne heche and julie cypher njc Hi Gang, Just catching up again and wanted to comment about Lori's comment: > I'd like to think she was really in love with Ellen, and maybe she was, but it smacks of something more like a really bad publicity stunt. Of course this leaves me wondering about Julie Cypher (former partner of Melissa Etheridge), too ... > > Anne I see as a gold-digging, hateful, nutjob freak, and I thought this long before she was with Ellen. I remember her from her teen years on Another World (which, I swear, was probably THE most popular show in Saskatchewan -- I remember seeing bar bands play the theme song, but that's a whole other ball of freakdom), and she was a cold, calculating brat back then too. I also read the book her sister wrote about their father, and knew something was off with her from the book. Ellen can do much better! But anyway, I'm sidetracked -- Oh yeah, Julie -- I don't think Julie as another Anne-type, simply because she hooked up with Melissa when she was still relatively unknown and in the closet. And holy shit, did anyone read Melissa's book and see the part about Julie and kd? Anyway, just had to weigh in about Julie, because while she's obviously "confused" or however she put it, she ain't no anne. Ah, bless that poor Heche baby -- he's gonna need all the help he can get.... Evian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:43:44 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Judy and Joan Sorry if this is semi-duplicative: Joan's Love Song to a Stranger II (as mentioned earlier) on "From Every Stage" is a somewhat acerbic, pained and funny song. LStaS, the original, also appeared on "The Best of Joan C. Baez" compilation (which has shown up on CD, off and on, under different titles) and is an achingly beautiful, sweet, and sad love song (can't remember the composer, but it seems Dylanish to me): All of your history has little to do with your face You're mainly a mystery with violins filling in space.... As for Judy...I have become (once again) a big fan of Judy's once again after a few years of semi-fandom. Have heard her four times in concert in the past five years. I have to say her voice is in incredible shape, she can hit high notes unreachable even in her younger years. The odd thing is, she does sound flat, now and then, on her recent recordings, while sounding great live. Her big vocal problems were in the late 70's but she seems to have recovered from that. She brings a powerful healing quality to her performances (I hate to sound new-agey, but it's true). Judy will be on stage throughout the year with her Wildflowers Festival, featuring other performers too. Now you know..... Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:46:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Messianen organ works? (njc) dear victor, they are SUPERB!!!!!!! messiaen is a contemporary composer. i'm not so familiar with his organ music as i am with his operas and vocal works. messiaen is a profoundly religious person and he draws his inspiration from his extraordinary mysticism. his use of harmony is very novel -- not to everyone's liking, mind you. messiaen must be the first [and maybe only] musician to have transcribed bird singing to a note. many of his vocal compositions require the soprano to sign like different types of birds. i know it sounds kind of wacky but the result is very striking indeed. do go to one of the concerts. i am sure you will enjoy his music. wally ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #107 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?