From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #93 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 27 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 093 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: sales njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Ramona covering Woodstock - question [RobSher50@aol.com] Joni in upcoming Cobain book [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC [RobSher50@ao] Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Richard Thomspon NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC ["Brenda" ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc [Julius Raymond ] Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC ["Brenda" <] Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC ["Kakki" ] Joni question on The Weakest Link [M.Russell@iaea.org] Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... DiMA NJC ["Brenda" ] Thank you all! ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:38:30 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: sales njc colin, baby, let me spell it out for you: hooligan queen! lots of them wherever soccer's played. wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de colin Enviado el: Martes, 26 de Febrero de 2002 08:25 p.m. Para: joni Asunto: sales But then it could just be me and my prejudices again-he's man, 50 points, he is a footy fan, 50 points. 100 points equals thug. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:08:08 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Ramona covering Woodstock - question Dear Marian, Ramona would have to contact the Harry Fox Agency in order to sell her CD. From what I understand, you can put anything you want on a CD, but if you intend to sell it or give it airplay, you must go through the Harry Fox Agency. I will include the website to help you help her. I wish Ramona all the best and am praying for success for her independent label! Love, Sherelle The Harry Fox Agency, Inc. In a message dated 02/26/2002 6:28:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:43:46 +0100 > From: M.Russell@iaea.org > Subject: Ramona covering Woodstock - question > > Ramona has been working on her CD and it is nearly finished. One of the > songs which she would like to include is a cover of Joni's Woodstock. This > is an amazing cover which I'm sure will impress all of you. > > Anyway, Ramona will be having her own independent label and needs to know > how to arrange to include Woodstock on her CD. Is there some procedure for > obtaining the right to cover a song? Does anyone on the list know how to > do > this? > > I apologize for not including the NJC tag, but maybe someone with an answer > is a Joni-only. > > Thanks in advance, > > Marian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:12:13 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni in upcoming Cobain book This from the news wires: NEW YORK (Variety) - Riverhead, a division of Penguin Putnam has snapped up the rights to publish the notebooks of the late Kurt Cobain, the creative force behind Nirvana, for close to $4 million. The proceeds will go to Cobain's estate. The book will be published in November. "We're really impressed with the level of interest that people showed," said a person associated with the deal. "Riverhead did a good job convincing that they knew how to treat something like this." Last week, editors were literally standing in line to see the 23 notebooks, around 800 pages altogether. Competitors were made to queue up outside the Edith Wharton Room in downtown New York's Inn at Irving Place; upon entering, they heard a brief pitch from agent David Vigliano and then got a peek at the property. People who have seen the diaries say they contain the minstrel of melancholia's black-and-white drawings as well as lyrics and lists of musicians who influenced him over the years. Joni Mitchell was tops early on, but indie divas the Breeders took the No. 1 slot later. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:24:12 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC Dear Kate and all, Help me to understand the scenario of the music industry at this time. If I am reading correctly, the conglomerates of both the radio and the recording industry are conspiring together to put Internet radio as well out of business. The RAC on the other hand, is raising money to operate and stand up for the rights of recording artists to be able to move on after a seven year contract is up. By doing so, the inevitable demise of the record industry as we know it will take place. So even though you are not anti record label, if you affiliate yourself with the RAC, you will be considered anti-label to the conglomerates. Whoa! So where does that leave artists who are not on any kind of label scene yet, but who plan to be in some form or fashion? It seems to me that the right thing to do is stand up for the little guy and protect the rights of all performers. If I'm getting this, it means to stand with the RAC and stand against the Copyright office's ruling on Internet royalties. Does anyone want to speculate what the future of the music industry will be like if it comes RAC prevails and the Copyright office does not? I am a member of Just Plain Folks and find it to be a very worthwhile and worthy cause. It gives undiscovered artists the chance to be heard over Internet Radio (Radio Free Virgin, I think it's called) The conglomerates would make you think that if RAC has its way, it will be the end of major acts as we know it. They say it's not fair because they need to have time to develop an artist, and what is their incentive to sign someone if they know they may only get one album from them before the artist becomes a "free agent." I see their point in a way, but I also see people like that fellow from the Byrds who is still waiting for his royalties. It doesn't appear to be a fair system. What about those artists who have been very happy with their labels and have had no complaints? Do they even exist? I would welcome any feedback because I am eager to learn how this whole thing works. Sherelle In a message dated 02/26/2002 6:28:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:17:00 -0800 > From: "Kate Bennett" > Subject: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC > > Here is a forwarded email I received from someone who is a broadcaster & deeply involved in this issue: Without your immediate involvement there are dire circumstances for Internet streamers on the horizon for all but the fat corporate cats and big 5 record labels. You and your friends and U.S. listeners must make some noise NOW. U.S. Copyright law says online-streamed music must pay for performance rights. The price we are to pay has been in arbitration for most of the last year. Last week the results were announced and they are hideous. The proposed fees will cripple webcasting's future. The RIAA and copyright office don't care if you're making money or not. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:15:58 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC Kate wrote: > Not sure about the origins of the RIAA but now, from all I hear within the > indie community, the RIAA is considered to be only looking out for the > interests of the Big 5 labels... I was unsure because I have seen cases where the RIAA intervened on behalf of the artists in royalty disputes involving the record companies. On closer reflection, it may be that the artist has to be tied to one of the big record companies to begin with to receive their help! >U.S. Copyright law says online-streamed music must pay for performance > rights. The price we are to pay has been in arbitration for most of the > last year. Last week the results were announced and they are hideous. The > proposed fees will cripple webcasting's future. The RIAA and copyright > office don't care if you're making money or not. I saw these proposed rates from the link Sherelle provided - geeez! I hope the powers that be come to their senses before the deadline. If not, this could become a real mess on a number of fronts. Hopefuly a few brilliant lawyers on white horses will rush in to save the day. I wouldn't be surprised with all the publicity this issue is receiving lately. A good example of how bureaucrats in government can make bad law that cripples innovation and free trade to the point where everyone (including the RIAA and those it represents) is going to be damaged in the end. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:06:50 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: alison putting out olympic flame NJC I thought so too. The Paz's watched as a family and enjoyed so much of this years coverage. I did keep thinking about Ali a lot though and wondering if she would medal or not ( and I don't mean bronze gold or silver either). HE HEE! The Paz's welcomed the Dulson's to Louisiana tonight and we all went out to dinner at one of our favorite seafood places and dined on oysters, crawfish, amberjack, calamari, hush puppies, and plenty of beverages. It is so good to see them and they are looking pretty fit after a few days at the Folk Alliance convention in Florida. They will be hanging out with us till Friday when we will pour them on a west bound plane. We sat by the fire (cause it's really fecking cold in La. Tonight) and had a nightcap and I am just trying to stay awake long enough to catch Ryan on Leno (NOT that Dulson himself is a wimp for crashing before 10:30 you understand) Heee hehe. I AM so bad. Ashara, your hugs are delivered and I doubt that the Dulson's will make you soire in NY due to prior commitments. Hope you ARE better dear and just so you know I WILL be doing a song called Purple Toes for you next summer. Love Paz > Call me a sentimental sop, but this Winter Olympics was the most exciting > and enjoyable one I've ever experienced. I always have obsessively watched > the Winter games since the 70s but I found myself even staying up all night > a few times to watch the re-broadcasts of this one. Early on I was ardently > rooting for every single athlete in every competition! Unbelievable and > amazing. > > I had to laugh a little at the Bud World "riot" - have felt the same > frustration at getting a drink and some night life in SLC a few times myself > ;-) > > Notwithstanding, I think the people of SLC and Utah did a stupendous job. > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:16:10 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Joni Mention in Magazine Article Well, as an avid reader of trashy entertainment mags (you want me on your team when it's the Entertainment question in Trivial Pursuit), I'm here to offer up a Joni reference in the 3/1/02 issue of Entertainment. The article is called On the Road Again about author Elizabeth Wurtzel who wrote a book called "Prozac Nation" and has now come out with another called "More, Now, Again: A Memoir of Addiction." In reaction to the less-than-stellar reviews, it says, "She doesn't understand why the literary world gives her such a hard time for writing another autobiography. "Joni Mitchell has 20 albums about her emotional problems," she points out, "and nobody says, 'Oh my God ... can't she do anything else?'" Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:44:15 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC Sherelle wrote: > I am a member of Just Plain Folks and find it to be a very worthwhile and > worthy cause. It gives undiscovered artists the chance to be heard over > Internet Radio (Radio Free Virgin, I think it's called) That's great! My friend Harold Payne and his group Gravity won the JP Folks Smooth Jazz album of the year in 2000 and he has some events with them coming up this week and next. When are you coming out to do a gig here, Sherelle?! ;-) >The conglomerates would make you think that if RAC has its way, it will be the end of major > acts as we know it. They say it's not fair because they need to have time to > develop an artist, and what is their incentive to sign someone if they know > they may only get one album from them before the artist becomes a "free > agent." I just laughed and laughed when I read this quote. Oh please! Too little, too late. I can't believe they get an exemption from the labor law in Calif. I have a feeling they are going to lose that one. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:55:50 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: feb 26!!!!!!! njc Happy Birthday Kate Bennett. Phew just in time before your birthday is over too. The Dulson's are here and we celebrated your birthday and talked shit about you and Jeff and then they went to bed and I crashed on the couch waiting for Ryan Adams. Sounds like a celebration to me. Heee heee Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:01:19 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc Hey...Happy Birthday Kate...what a special woman you are!!! Love sharon Michael Paz wrote: > > Happy Birthday Kate Bennett. Phew just in time before your birthday is over > too. The Dulson's are here and we celebrated your birthday and talked shit > about you and Jeff and then they went to bed and I crashed on the couch > waiting for Ryan Adams. Sounds like a celebration to me. Heee heee > > Love > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:04:07 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: RAP, racism & hip hop culture njc Good Fecking point! He was a really good dad. And $16 bucks was a helluva lot of money back then. But he coulda got us back stage passes or something.. LOL Paz > Yes, but didn't your Dad take you to see the BEATLES!!!!? > >>>> All of a sudden I feel like my father (only maybe NOT as bad). Michael<<< > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:05:34 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: new Pat Metheny Group album NJC Thanks Fred! one of my faves. Paz > For anyone interested in two former Joni bandmates (Pat Metheny and Lyle > Mays), the new Pat Metheny Group album, SPEAKING OF NOW, is a stone > masterpiece, a gorgeous work of art. > > Go ... get it. > > -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:09:13 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: alison putting out olympic flame NJC It's a fairly loooooooooooong procedure. Respectfully. Paz > i love how this thread has changed but alison is still putting out the > Olympic flame with her tush! > wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:11:51 -0800 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC I've been under a real tight deadline and have had to sit on the sidelines with this debate. However, I just have to ask about this one.... On 26 Feb 2002 at 19:15, Kakki wrote: > I was unsure because I have seen cases where the RIAA intervened on > behalf of the artists in royalty disputes involving the record > companies. On closer reflection, it may be that the artist has to be > tied to one of the big record companies to begin with to receive their > help! > Do you recall what those cases were? The RIAA was very duplicity in the beginning of the whole debate about music trading and new technology by implying that they were looking out for the artists' interest. They later recanted that statement because they do not now nor have they ever represented artists. Ever. They have always been a lobbying group for record labels (they do have some members which are not majors). Take a look at the board of directors. ( http://www.riaa.org/ - look under about us and leadership) With the exception of Dick Griffey, everyone on that list is affiliated with a major label group. So the only way I could see them intervening on an artist's behalf in a dispute with a label is if the artist owned the label, that label was an RIAA member and they were having a problem with another label member that was their distributor. Brenda n.p.: the hum of my floor lamp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:50:42 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC Brenda asked: > Do you recall what those cases were? Yes, but I can't discuss them. They did not represent the artists but intervened on their behalf - perhaps a self-policing stance? Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:40:29 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Ramona covering Woodstock - question Marian, its a fairly simple process done through the Harry Fox Agency. I believe you can do it online. The website is http://www.nmpa.org/hfa.html . Many of Joni's songs are listed there which means anyone can record them...it costs about 7.75 cents per song per CD that she plans to duplicate to do this. I think you have to pay upfront on the CDs you plan to manufacture as opposed to the CDs you actually sel.. I haven't done it but have checked it out & it appears to be very straightforward & easy. Hope this helps! Kate ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:40:09 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: Chuck Mitchell > From: Gary Zack > That is just incredible! You must have been standing at the > stage door right where I was after the show! I remember the > fellow asking Joni for a kiss, and I was kicking myself for > not thinking of asking first........ > I have her autograph from the program in a frame. I wonder > if she signed it with YOUR pen??? :-) Gary, this is too wild. There were only a very few of us, as I recall, right backstage, with Joni kind of perched on the edge of some sort of platform behind the curtain. The lucky one of us asked for a kiss, and I asked something about her recording with other musicians (she said she had some people in mind). When someone asked for an autograph she said she didn't have a pen and I handed her mine. Without a doubt she used my pen to sign your autograph. (The autograph that I got was thrown out by accident by my mother years later.) When I left the theatre I realized that she had kept my pen, so I went around back to the stage door in hopes of seeing her again and getting my (by now) very special pen back. She came out about ten minutes later with three men, one of whom was Elliot Roberts. I got up the nerve to ask for my pen and I can recall the exact expression on her face and tone of her voice as she apologized for losing it, saying she was always losing other peoples' pens. She pulled a daisy from the bouquet someone had given her and said "Would you like a flower instead?" Umm, yeah. The daisy didn't make it back home. I took the overnight bus back to Toronto and spent a few hours waiting in Union Station for the train home. As ill-fate would have it there was a blood donor clinic there that morning so I gave blood and while I was in the recovery area, someone stole my jacket with the daisy in the pocket from the coat rack. > Do you remember her playing "Rainy Night House" and making a > mistake? She stopped and said something like, "Oh I'm so > sorry, I guess I'll just have to start all over again" or > something like that? She was just beautiful. She wore a floor length velvety dress, maybe burgundy, that moved so enthrallingly when she swayed side to side, especially during Night In The City. The entire audience was in the palm of her hand. I have no physical mementos left but the magic is indelibly etched in my mind. I'm so glad you were there to share it. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:43:46 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Richard Thomspon NJC AMEN! ."He is simply among the finest rock musicians to ever pick up a guitar. It's the rare rocker who can flourish without the support of a band. Thompson plays with such remarkable finesse and power that his solo show Monday never felt spare or incomplete." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:49:14 -0800 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC Very long response below.... On 26 Feb 2002 at 23:24, RobSher50@aol.com wrote: > Dear Kate and all, > > Help me to understand the scenario of the music industry at this time. > If I am reading correctly, the conglomerates of both the radio and the > recording industry are conspiring together to put Internet radio as > well out of business. That is exactly what is happening. Here is one word which may help to put it in perspective. MTV. The major labels have vowed not to allow another MTV - meaning another independent company which they do not own that controls the distribution of music in any form or garners the attention of the mass music buying public. It is the reason why they have withheld licenses and refused to negotiate with companies with new technology. It is the reason why they are pushing for rates so high that they will price independents out of the streaming business. They want to pick who the players will be, not have an open market. They are also looking for ways to replace revenue from lagging record sales. Record companies do not get paid by radio stations for airplay. There is no sound recording royalty for that performance. However, internet streams will have to pay a sound recording royalty. The RAC on the other hand, is raising money to > operate and stand up for the rights of recording artists to be able to > move on after a seven year contract is up. By doing so, the inevitable > demise of the record industry as we know it will take place. I do not agree with this for one simple reason. By and large, the major labels no longer commit to artist development. If it doesn't happen on the first album (and even possibly the first single) they move on. This whole argument about artist development is a fallacy. A few years ago the majors dropped the artist development strategy and turned to acquiring acts from independents who would have done the artist development for them (Labels like Kill Rock Stars and Caroline for instance.) > So where does that leave artists who are not on any kind of label > scene yet, but who plan to be in some form or fashion? It seems to me > that the right thing to do is stand up for the little guy and protect > the rights of all performers. If I'm getting this, it means to stand > with the RAC and stand against the Copyright office's ruling on > Internet royalties. Does anyone want to speculate what the future of > the music industry will be like if it comes RAC prevails and the > Copyright office does not? Well, I'm not sure that the RAC has spoken out against the CARP ruling (DIMA has). RAC's only contention has been that the 50% for the artist be paid directly to the artist and not to the label which could use the revenue to recoup unpaid balances. And they had quite the battle on their hands with that one because the royalty collecting organization for sound recordings on the internet is SoundExchange which was formed by the RIAA! (Think of SoundExchange as being like Harry Fox or ASCAP.) > The > conglomerates would make you think that if RAC has its way, it will be > the end of major acts as we know it. They say it's not fair because > they need to have time to develop an artist, and what is their > incentive to sign someone if they know they may only get one album > from them before the artist becomes a "free agent." Take out the seven year exemption and deals would likely be for two-three albums, which really means that the label will then be forced to renegotiated if the artist has experienced any success. Again, if they haven't had success with the first album, the label is not likely to pick up an option on the second anyway. What about those artists who have been very happy with their > labels and have had no complaints? Do they even exist? I would welcome > any feedback because I am eager to learn how this whole thing works. > I really can't say that I know any artists who are happy with their labels except maybe one or two independents. I think the very nature of the artist/label relationship is antagonistic because both sides are trying to protect their share of the money. The artist wants the label to spend money, yet they are upset when they have large unrecouped balances. The labels want successful projects yet they don't always know which projects to spend on and the risk is tremendous. The label is in many ways a bank (or really, a hard money lender) offering artists an uncollateralized loan. Their behavior is largely driven by the risk associated with that. Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:48:26 -0600 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: Chuck Mitchell Rick, that was nothing less than beautiful. Thanks to you I just shared some of it. thanks mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:48:20 -0800 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc My best to you on your birthday, Kate Bennett! - -Julius May God bless and keep you always, May your wishes all come true, May you always do for others And let others do for you. May you build a ladder to the stars And climb on every rung, May you stay forever young, Forever young, forever young, May you stay forever young. May you grow up to be righteous, May you grow up to be true, May you always know the truth And see the lights surrounding you. May you always be courageous, Stand upright and be strong, May you stay forever young, Forever young, forever young, May you stay forever young. May your hands always be busy, May your feet always be swift, May you have a strong foundation When the winds of changes shift. May your heart always be joyful, May your song always be sung, May you stay forever young, Forever young, forever young, May you stay forever young. - -Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:53:01 -0800 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC On 26 Feb 2002 at 20:50, Kakki wrote: > Brenda asked: > > > Do you recall what those cases were? > > Yes, but I can't discuss them. They did not represent the artists but > intervened on their behalf - perhaps a self-policing stance? Or an attempt to avoid bad press. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:11:03 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... RIAA representing artists?! NJC > > Yes, but I can't discuss them. They did not represent the artists but > > intervened on their behalf - perhaps a self-policing stance? > > Or an attempt to avoid bad press. Ummmmmmm ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:09:25 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc Happy birthday Kate and I hope it is a lovely one! Wish we could have all been at Paz's with the Dulson's celebrating ;-) Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:58:59 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Joni question on The Weakest Link Last night on the British version of The Weakest Link, one of the questions was something like: "Roberta Anderson, composer of a number of songs which were popular during the 60's and 70's, is better known as Joni ........." I thought the question was too easy! What other women singers have a first name of Joni??? Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:09:50 -0800 From: "Brenda" Subject: Re: Broadcasters Outraged ... DiMA NJC On 25 Feb 2002 at 22:15, Randy Remote wrote: > Kakki wrote: > > > Maybe the internet broadcasters (if they haven't already) > > need to band together and establish their own advocacy group/lobby > > (and get some good lawyers to help them!). > > Sounds like a good idea. > They have formed a group. It's called DiMA. http://www.digmedia.org/ If they hadn't the CARP rate would have been even higher then what has been put forward. Here's there reaction to the CARP announcement: http://www.digmedia.org/webcasting/carp.cfm Brenda n.p.: Charlie Rose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:17:29 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Thank you all! Well, its now past my offical birthday time (10:05 pm) so I am one year older now. What an amazing gift to receive so many birthday greetings from so many jmdlers! It is truly a unique group we have here...it started with joni but truly goes so much further & deeper than that. I had a regular Tuesday day, with periodic calls from family & friends & then Jeff & I went out to a nice dinner to a place that I had never been to. I had a fish I had never heard of before called Char...they said it was from Canada & it was delicious (like Salmon). I had wine, champagne & the most decadent chocolate truffle that was melty inside! Yum. Time to check out that ornery Ryan Adams on Leno...(Did anyone go to his show in LA last night?) Love, Kate ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #93 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?