From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, February 26 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 092 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: February 26 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Ryan Adams in Paris (NJC) [Gerald McNamara ] Today's Articles: February 26 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Chuck Mitchell [Gary Zack ] feb 26!!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Ab Fab ["William Waddell" ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc [Mags N Brei ] Ramona covering Woodstock - question [M.Russell@iaea.org] Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC [Lori in MD ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc [Alison E ] Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Ab Fab ["Mike Friedman" ] first posting [christopher blake ] Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Ramona covering Woodstock - question njc [Randy Remote ] Re: Ab Fab ["hell" ] The Music Business NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: (NJC) Please send healing thoughts [RobSher50@aol.com] RE: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Kate Rusby US tour (NJC) [Gertus@aol.com] sales [colin ] Ryan Adams on Jay Leno tonight njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC [anne@sandstrom.com] olympic skating (was alison putting out olympic flame) NJC ["Kate Benne] Poem: Joni Mitchell [Deb Messling ] RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Ab Fab [Mike Friedman ] Richard Thompson epiphany NJC ["kerry" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #56 [KLCass21@aol.com] Re: Renaldo and Clara NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] Joni/Bob Trivia ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: Joni/Bob Trivia [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! ["Sha] Am listening to Joni on Radio AOL! [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002Logo!! ["Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Ryan Adams in Paris (NJC) last Friday, 22/02/02, Laurent wrote: >Ryan plays through a vintage Vox AC30 cranked up really loud (ear plugs >are recommended). So does the 3rd guitarist/pedal steel/mandolin who is >the best player of the band. I don't know his name but he has a >physical resemblance to Fred Tackett of Little Feat. > ...cut... >There's no question the guy is a star, a young Bob Dylan sums it up >IMHO. I saw Ryan Adams here in Melbourne last month and was impressed by his guitarist/pedal steel/mandolin player, not realising at first that the guy was Bucky Baxter who has toured and recorded with Bob Dylan's band. As for Adams' performance, I was surprised at how rock-and-roll he was. Not the sensitive singer-songwriter type at all. And not sounding all that much like he does on Heartbreaker or Gold. More like early 70's Rolling Stones. Very garagey. It was not Adams' music, however, that made an impression in Australia, but his behaviour. He is a genuine pratt ! During his Melbourne concert, some joker in the crowd called out, "Play 'Summer of 69'! " (ie the Bryan Adams hit). Adams went right off his head. He stopped the show, insisting the culprit should be identified and thrown out of the hall. At one interview he would only talk from inside a cupboard. Later, after reading a bad review of Gold in a local magazine, he issued a challenge to the reviewer, threatening to personally 'kick his ass'. His spoilt brattish behaviour went on and on, and subsequently he became the boy the local press loved to hate. Nevertheless I've gotta agree with Laurent and JMDLers who reckon Adams is a talented star. read about his tour antics at: http://www.geocities.com/backporchtalk/porch3/achin.htm -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 03:01:12 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 26 On February 26 the following articles were published: 1972: "Joni Mitchell Returns to Toronto" - Toronto Star (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/720226ts.cfm 2000: "the new Joni Mitchell" - London Times Magazine (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000226lt.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 04:46:41 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Chuck Mitchell Rick, That is just incredible! You must have been standing at the stage door right where I was after the show! I remember the fellow asking Joni for a kiss, and I was kicking myself for not thinking of asking first. I asked something dumb like "when will you perform back in Detroit again?" I have her autograph from the program in a frame. I wonder if she signed it with YOUR pen??? :-) What a small world! Do you remember her playing "Rainy Night House" and making a mistake? She stopped and said something like, "Oh I'm so sorry, I guess I'll just have to start all over again" or something like that? She was just beautiful. A friend (not into Joni) and I took the train from Detroit to Stratford to see her. When I run into him now he always says, "Remember when we went to Stratford to see Joni Mitchell?" How filled with hope I was in my younger days!! Best regards, Gary Rick and Susan wrote: > > > From: Gary Zack > > I always regretted the fact that I didn't > > discover the "coffeehouse" scene until after Joni left, although I did > > travel to see her in Stratford that year. > > Hey Gary, I hitchhiked three hours from my hometown in Southern Ontario to > see Joni in Stratford in '69, It was magical as always, especially the part > where she gave me a daisy at the stage door after losing my pen while > signing autographs. One of the other people backstage asked for a kiss (and > got it). That wasn't you was it? > > Thanks for the Chuck Mitchell info. > Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:46:00 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: feb 26!!!!!!! njc sexy splendid and where did she get those cheekbones????? H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y KATE BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wally and the JMDL BEE EPH love you to distraction! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:05:45 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc H A P P Y B I R THDAY KATE!!! Fellow Piscean love, rose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:50:20 -0600 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Ab Fab Dunno if you have this documented Mr Murphy Cop, Joni is refered to in an episode of Absolutely Fabulous. Maybe that should be "reefered" to, considering the nature of the story line. I posted the sighting several months back. Which particular show escapes me the noo, but Patsy and/or Edina convolutedly mentions The Hissing of Summer Lawns. I'll look into it. WtS _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:54:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > sexy > splendid > and where did she get those cheekbones????? > > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > KATE BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Kate oh beauteous Kate! wishing you a joyous birthday filled with love & chocolate!!!! tonnes of hugs to you, Magsie and Monsieur Canard from ESC xxxooo ===== it's a miracle! Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:43:46 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Ramona covering Woodstock - question Ramona has been working on her CD and it is nearly finished. One of the songs which she would like to include is a cover of Joni's Woodstock. This is an amazing cover which I'm sure will impress all of you. Anyway, Ramona will be having her own independent label and needs to know how to arrange to include Woodstock on her CD. Is there some procedure for obtaining the right to cover a song? Does anyone on the list know how to do this? I apologize for not including the NJC tag, but maybe someone with an answer is a Joni-only. Thanks in advance, Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC Sharon wrote: > I am not playing the accordion for another few days. Another accordion > friend told me to apply Arnica to the sore area. Any thoughts out there? Two thoughts: 1) I've never applied Arnica topically, but I have used the under-the-tongue variety, and it does provide relief. As with other homeopathic tablets, you should not pick up the tablet with your fingers, but rather tap the tablet from the container to its lid (or something similar), then transfer the tablet to your mouth. 2) Since my mother's passing (and thanks again to all of you who sent kind words during her hospital stay and afterwards), I have become the caretaker for two accordians! I've been thinking of bringing the smaller one to this year's fest, especially since Smurf wrote: > I think the best way to avoid accordian injuries, Sharon, is to refrain > from playing the darn thing in public! To that, I reply: ROLL OUT THE BARREL!!! : ) Lori in MD http://www.lunarpages.com/lrfye/ ~ Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc happy birthday, kate! to a very talented and incredibly kind warm woman, a woman who i begged to play my new guitar amped for the first time ("you have to play it first! if i play it, i'll jinx it!") and she laughingly complied, celebrate your day to the fullest. we love you. alison e. in slc np: johnny cash on wfuv - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > sexy splendidand where did she get those cheekbones????? > H A P P Y BI R T H D A YKATE BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ally and the JMDL BEE EPH love you to distraction! Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:23:18 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC In a message dated 2/26/2002 10:44:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, lrfye58@yahoo.com writes: > I have become the caretaker for two accordians! I've been thinking of > bringing the smaller one to this year's fest, especially since Smurf wrote: > > > I think the best way to avoid accordian injuries, Sharon, is to refrain > > from playing the darn thing in public! > > To that, I reply: ROLL OUT THE BARREL!!! > COOL!! Dueling accordians!! Bring it on!! Hugs, Ashara {who is already feeling much better than yesterday because of all the good vibes sent from here!} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:22:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hackett/Now Accordians NJC <> And yes, there IS an accordian version of BSN, from an Irish duo named Foster & Allen. Allen plays the guitar, Foster the accordian. Luckily they do it in a medley, so the pain is brief, no medicine homeopathic, heteropathic or otherwise should be required. I haven't had the fortitiude to commit it to a volume yet, but I'm sure that inclusion is inevitable. My apologies in advance, please have the triscuits ready for this upcoming cheese... Bob NP: Carla Helmbrecht, "Dream A Little Dream Of Me" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:00:36 -0800 From: "Mike Friedman" Subject: Re: Ab Fab Patsy and Eddy are getting stoned in the bathroom (it's one of the last episodes of the first series).....Saffy comes in, disapproving of them for being high, and Eddy goes out to the other room to use the lav.....When she comes back, she very off-key sings "....and the HISSING of SUMMER LAWNS..." It's very funny, mostly because most people won't get the joke. :-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Waddell" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:50 AM Subject: Ab Fab > Dunno if you have this documented Mr Murphy Cop, Joni is refered to in an > episode of Absolutely Fabulous. Maybe that should be "reefered" to, > considering the nature of the story line. I posted the sighting several > months back. Which particular show escapes me the noo, but Patsy and/or > Edina convolutedly mentions The Hissing of Summer Lawns. I'll look into it. > WtS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: christopher blake Subject: first posting hello all! i always suspected that i wasn't the only one who may have pre-ordered TTT :). for anyone who may know: are there tape trees in operation? i have a humble joni collection but would certatinly like to share. loved her with the orchestra here in connecticut. knew the bass player and sat across the aisle from (name drop) Meryl S. who was the first one up for the standing 'o'. she really hit 'hejira' that evening. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:33:01 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: feb 26!!!!!!! njc In a message dated 2/26/2002 6:50:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > KATE BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Have a wonderful birthday Kate. I hope Jeff buys you one of Joni's old guitars for your b-day. xo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:14:51 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Ramona covering Woodstock - question njc You need to get a licence from the Harry Fox Organization: http://www.nmpa.org/hfa.html Click songlist, put 'Woodstock' in the search engine, then click the 'view' button, then click the 'licence' button, or, if she is making up less than 2500 copies, there is a special rate and a place to click on the lower left. Min. copies is 500. If she is just burning them herself, in low numbers, I am not sure what to do. But check out the site. She can obtain a license on line with a credit card. They will also ask you what country you are making and distributing in. Harry Fox handles licensing for nearly all compositions. RR M.Russell@iaea.org wrote: > Ramona has been working on her CD and it is nearly finished. One of the > songs which she would like to include is a cover of Joni's Woodstock. This > is an amazing cover which I'm sure will impress all of you. > > Anyway, Ramona will be having her own independent label and needs to know > how to arrange to include Woodstock on her CD. Is there some procedure for > obtaining the right to cover a song? Does anyone on the list know how to do > this? > > I apologize for not including the NJC tag, but maybe someone with an answer > is a Joni-only. > > Thanks in advance, > > Marian > Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:34:35 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: RAP, racism & hip hop culture njc Yes, but didn't your Dad take you to see the BEATLES!!!!? >>>All of a sudden I feel like my father (only maybe NOT as bad). Michael<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:30:05 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! The Jonifest 2002 contest is now over, and the entries are up for all of you to vote on. Please keep in mind that for what the logo is going to be used for, it needs to be simple and have the words Northeast Back to the Garden Jonifest 2002 on the logo. Go here to vote: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest2002/logocontest.cfm The dealine is March 10th, and please only ONE vote per lister. If you have submitted a logo, and don't see it here, please know that if it didn't meet the criteria, it was eliminated. If you sent a logo in with the criteria being met and don't see it here, please e-mail me. Thanks, and good luck to all that entered! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:56:19 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Ryan Adams on Leno, more njc Lots of music stuff on the tube this week::: On Leno tonight (Tues), Jon Stewart (who will host the Grammy's again- yay!) and Ryan Adams Also tonight Craig Kilbourn will have Shirley Manson of Garbage Tonight's Politically Incorrect: India Aire, Ja Rule, Mike Green (Grammy pres.) intriguing?! Also tonight CMT will have a Johnny Cash Prison Concert at 12AM EST WED is Grammy night, of course, also at 7PM EST Emmylou Harris and the whole O! Brother gang will be on CMT FRI Jewel in Concert VH-1 @ 5:30PM EST SUN The Chris Isaak Show (which is excellent) w/guest Sheila E. RR wondering what ever happened to Hanson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:01:09 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Ab Fab William wrote: > Dunno if you have this documented Mr Murphy Cop, Joni is refered to in an > episode of Absolutely Fabulous. Maybe that should be "reefered" to, > considering the nature of the story line. I posted the sighting several > months back. Which particular show escapes me the noo, but Patsy and/or > Edina convolutedly mentions The Hissing of Summer Lawns. I'll look into it. Ooooh! Two of my favourite subjects in one message! This episode was the second-to-last of the third series. Eddie and Patsy are getting stoned in the bathroom, when Saffie walks in (she's left home to stay at the University hostel). Patsy needs a waz and is told to use the upstairs bathroom, so she leaves the room: Eddie: Darling, why don't you come home? Saffron: What's the problem? I have my life, you have yours. This is what you wanted. Eddie: Because I feel orphaned, you know? Saffron: What's the matter, has the deal fallen through? Eddie: Not the deal, not the deal.....it's just...... Saffron: What?! Eddie: Well darling, you just sort of... you've just sort of abandoned me in this sort of wilderness of potential greatness and fabulousness, haven't you, darling? You know, and all my walls have gone flop, flop, flop, flop. And now I'm just kind of like this kind of prisoner, this released prisoner, darling, walking out into the squinting sun Patsy re-enters, and says: And the Hissing of Summer Lawns..... Eddie: You cast me adrift with no oars, sweetie. Saffron: You've got oars. Eddie: I haven't!!! Saffron: You have!!! You're just too lazy and fat to use them! God, I love this show! Someone ask me another question! Please?! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:08:01 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The Music Business NJC The Music Business(Byrds & D. Krall content!) You say you want A revolution A new artists' coalition puts the record industry's billion-dollar business model at the crossroads: Shrink or perish By Greg Kot, Tribune rock critic. Staff reporter V. Dion Haynes and freelancer Joshua Klein contributed to this report Published February 24, 2002 music on the Internet spiraling out of its control, the recording industry is on the verge of a crisis. READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE AT: http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/arts/chi-0202240354feb24.story - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:08:16 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Please send healing thoughts Dear Ashara, My warmest, deepest thoughts go out to you. Just remember all the love everyone on this list feels for you and that we are there for you when you need us most. You have always gone out of your way to help others here. I remember when you first joined the Joni list several years ago. You immediately bolted out of the gate, ready to help in whatever way you could. You refused to be a stranger. I remember being very touched by your efforts to reach out to people you didn't know. I thought you were very brave and kind. So now, I send out warm get well wishes for you. I am praying that you will heal quickly and get back to your normal routine as soon as possible. Love, Sherelle In a message dated 02/25/2002 7:47:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:53:43 EST > From: AsharaJM@aol.com > Subject: (NJC) Please send healing thoughts > > Dear friends, > > If it feels right to you, please send some healing energy this way. I fell > down the stairs this morning, and have a broken toe and a badly sprained > ankle which is really painful. Thanks!! :-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:19:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! they are all SO incredibly beautiful. it took me HOURS to decide. wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 26 de Febrero de 2002 04:30 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! The Jonifest 2002 contest is now over, and the entries are up for all of you to vote on. Please keep in mind that for what the logo is going to be used for, it needs to be simple and have the words Northeast Back to the Garden Jonifest 2002 on the logo. Go here to vote: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest2002/logocontest.cfm The dealine is March 10th, and please only ONE vote per lister. If you have submitted a logo, and don't see it here, please know that if it didn't meet the criteria, it was eliminated. If you sent a logo in with the criteria being met and don't see it here, please e-mail me. Thanks, and good luck to all that entered! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:43:53 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Julia Fordham VLJC From the article at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,45857,00.html "If you haven't heard Fordham's incredible instrument of a voice, she sounds like the love child of Joan Armatrading and Nina Simone." Via in vitro fertilization, I presume? - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:48:23 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: new Pat Metheny Group album vljc For anyone interested in two former Joni bandmates (Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays), the new Pat Metheny Group album, SPEAKING OF NOW, is a stone masterpiece, a gorgeous work of art. Go ... get it. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:49:05 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Another take on the Internet Radio Station discussion (njc) Hi everyone, I found an article that was very interesting concerning our discussion of the RIAA and the RAC. Sherelle Click here: VH1.com The Wire... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:07:46 -0600 From: "William Waddell" Subject: The Ab Fab HOSL Quote Dahling Hell, Thanks everso for the transcript. That's exactly how I remember it being now. The squinting sun leading into THOSL. The dialogue reads so-o-o-o well and you can just hear the voices. Bob will be pleased! NP - Eddie: "I did tell you the facts of life didn't I sweetie?" "If you mean that time you sat on my bed and shook me awake at 2:00 in the morning, stoned out of your brain, and slurred into my ear 'By the way sweetie, people have it off,' then yes, you told me the facts of life." WtShake _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:17:00 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Broadcasters Outraged over Proposed Reporting Rules NJC >>>By the way, wasn't it the original purpose of the RIAA to protect artists?<<< Not sure about the origins of the RIAA but now, from all I hear within the indie community, the RIAA is considered to be only looking out for the interests of the Big 5 labels... Here is a forwarded email I received from someone who is a broadcaster & deeply involved in this issue: Without your immediate involvement there are dire circumstances for Internet streamers on the horizon for all but the fat corporate cats and big 5 record labels. You and your friends and U.S. listeners must make some noise NOW. U.S. Copyright law says online-streamed music must pay for performance rights. The price we are to pay has been in arbitration for most of the last year. Last week the results were announced and they are hideous. The proposed fees will cripple webcasting's future. The RIAA and copyright office don't care if you're making money or not. First, iM Networks take: Statement of David Frerichs, Founder, President and Chief Technology Officer of iM Networks, in regard to the CARP decision: If adopted, the CARP recommendations play right into the hands of the corporate giants. Instead of encouraging the spirit of the Internet's level playing field, these fees will squelch innovation by preventing independent Internet broadcasters from growing to a point of profitability. Broadcasters need to reach a critical mass audience before they are able to profitably sell advertising or other services on their station. With these fees, the out of pocket expenses required to grow to that critical mass become prohibitive. As a result, only major networks and corporate giants who already have an aggregated audience will be able to sustain these rates. Had similar rates been imposed in the early days of radio, we would not have the $20 billion dollar FM marketplace that we have today. Second, the succinct background read of the issues: http://www.radiohorizon.com/index.php3?fcn=displayarticle&id=2424 http://www.loc.gov/copyright/carp/webcasting_rates.html http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,50551,00.html http://wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,50625,00.html http://inetprogramming.com/default.html In the second link you will see the office of copyright directions for submitting formal comments on their ruling as well as the ruling. Most people won't do the formal comments because it's not easy. You only have until March 11 to do that. Third, the call to action! Rattle the cage of your legislator. Write the President! Within the next days we will produce :30 announcements that we will make available on our web site that you can run in your stream to urge your listeners to get involved. Here's a link where you can find your representative. http://congress.org/ Put your zip in and get set to email all your representatives from the President down. You may wish to post some of the points that are glaringly bad for the American way of life. Play the spots, post the links. Change the course of copyright history. Sincerely, Mary McCann, The Bone Mama V.P. Radio, iM Networks, Inc. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:22:24 -0500 From: "marianne marianne" Subject: [none] Mike wrote: "Browsing in the bookshop the other day, as one does, I spotted a book called (more or less) '100 Classic Album Covers'. One of the covers was 'Hissing' and the explanation of the cover art was very interesting but one thing worried me: in this book the cover of the album has a brownish background (well, foreground to be exact) whereas I remember my copy (still in Wales, must check it at Easter) being mostly a shade of green. Are there different versions of this cover?" My Hissing of Summer Lawns cover is also a shade of green (the lawns) and the background and buildings are silver. Is this a New York City sky line, does anybody know? Marianne Rochester, NY _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:57:57 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC I join you in sentimental sopdom Kakki...though I missed the first week due to gigging & traveling...I did get to see most of last weeks games...it was spectacular! I was in tears watching Sasha Cohen skate the short program & again when Sarah Hughes skated the long program...& wonder of wonders got the gold! (did you see the video of her at age 5...same smile...saying she couldn't wait to skate at the Olympics & win the gold!)...I also cheered for Canada winning the hockey over the US!!! All of the athletes were amazing...can you believe those aerial skiiers?! Amazing. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:03:42 EST From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: need to help a friend... i'm baaaaccck... but only breifly. i want to give erica a few of my favorite lines from '"for the roses." i heard it in the wind last night it sounded like applause chilly now end of summer no more shiny hot nights it was just the arbutus rustling and the bumping of the logs and the moon swept down black water like an empty spotlight i hope that is of some help erica. forever joni, warren keith p.s. i kind of got lost for a while, life has really been distracting lately. it's good to be back !!! more later... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:05:56 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: jonifest logos njc Just voted for the logo for jonifest. They are all magnificent. Very nicely done. A hard decision. Great work by all. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:58:50 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Kate Rusby US tour (NJC) Ashara honey, so sorry to hear about your plight but with all the good wishes flowing your way I'm sure you will soon be good as new! To cheer you up, if you don't already know, I just heard that the wonderful Kate Rusby will be touring the States in April. I don't know any more details but I do hope you get a chance to see her perform as she's brilliant in concert. Anyone who doesn't know, Kate is a mainly traditional English folk singer who shouldn't be missed. my very best, Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:24:42 +0000 From: colin Subject: sales at the market where i sell my knitwear, the guy opposite sells cd's. Anyway, I noticed to day that he had FTR, MINGUS, C&S, TI, BLUE AND WTRF.(I awlays for look for Joni and Carly cd's-just inc ase they released one I didn't haer about!) I expressed surprise that he would have these and he replied that 'Joni is one of my best sellers'. I then said TI was one of my all time faves and he replied that it didn't sell well! He too is really into her which surprised me. Snob that I am. He is a football fanatic and travels all over the country and europe to games. You may not know this but here we have organized groups of 'football fans' who go to matches all over here and the continent just to fight. having heard him talk and seen some of his mates, I couldn't help but wonder. But then it could just be me and my prejudices again-he's man, 50 points, he is a footy fan, 50 points. 100 points equals thug. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:21:29 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Ryan Adams on Jay Leno tonight njc Just a reminder..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC > I join you in sentimental sopdom Kakki... Make that a me three! Funny, I still dream of standing on that podium (although I think curling is about my only hope at this point...). Pardon me for sharing this, but I still recall winning a big sailing trophy and driving into the parking lot of the home sailing club, holding the trophy out the window for all to see. Gotta say, it was great! So I can only imagine... > I was in tears watching Sasha Cohen oh, well, I'm not much of a Sasha fan - but then maybe I know too much... > again when Sarah Hughes skated the long program...& wonder of wonders got > the gold! I've been watching skating for about 40 years and I gotta say, the judges FINALLY did something right! (after *&#^$ing up royally the previous week. For those of you who wonder, the Canadians truly deserved to win. For the life of me, I (and everyone else I know who skates) can't understand what the commentators were talking about when they said the Russians' program was more difficult. Nope, sorry, not true. The programs were exactly equal - and the Canadian pair didn't make the mistake that the Russian pair did. End of story. btw, did any of you catch the pre-Closing ceremonies program on Peggy Fleming and Dorothy Hamill? I still can't watch them dousing the flames from the 1961 crash without crying. I remember the crash - even though I was very young. Boston was the U.S. center for figure skating until that plane went down. And it's why I took lessons - as a direct result of the Memorial Fund. The SC of Boston has never and probably will never produce another champion. And we had so many... oh sigh lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:08:29 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: olympic skating (was alison putting out olympic flame) NJC i love reading about your skating (& sailing) experiences anne! no, i know nothing personal about sasha or any of the skaters...only that i am often so emotionally moved by those who skate so beautifully... yes, i saw the program about peggy & dorothy & loved it why do you say >>>Boston has never and probably will never produce another champion. <<< ? while i am asking skating questions, what ever became of tara lapinski? ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:14:10 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Poem: Joni Mitchell Here is the poem "Joni Mitchell," by Joseph Hutchinson. I found it in the anthology Sweet Nothings, and it was reprinted from Puerto del Sol. Water falls white on the white washed stones, fingers light on piano or the spine of a lover. Sobs and exultations, the open mouths and eyes of astounded houses, doves dead in mid-air, a scatter of leaves like torn astrologies. With her voice full of swords and blossoms, salt and blond honey, voice like the ruffle of air off the tip of the heron's wing, she sings the scrawl of blood and the fiery scripture of nerves written under the skin. We've slept like mountains, but now drum and saxophone swim in our bodies, hook-jawed salmon that leap the black keys, dying for the drowned genital stars, their fine bones singing like tuning forks. And there are guitars overflowing like drunken goblets, shiny sea-turtles dragging inland, heavy with eggs. There are sparrows dreaming in the cradles of her wrists, and roses, and ashes, and oceans collapsing on empty beaches, sliding back helpless and rising again. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:21:16 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC On Tue, 26 February 2002, "Kate Bennett" wrote > > i love reading about your skating (& sailing) experiences anne! Gee thanks - oh, I could bore you for hours :-) > > no, i know nothing personal about sasha or any of the skaters...only that i > am often so emotionally moved by those who skate so beautifully... Sasha is all about Sasha. Sarah, on the other hand, is intelligent and genuinely nice. > > why do you say >>>Boston has never and probably will never produce > another champion. <<< ? The rink is quaint, but has only one ice surface. They had to replace the roof a few years ago, so the club is still paying that off. And top notch coaches go elsewhere, like Simsbury Connecticut. > while i am asking skating questions, what ever became of tara lapinski? She turned pro, so she left competitive circles relatively early. She was in an ad (I'm sure you saw it) that aired during the Games. She still skates professionally. And, Michelle now joins another American skater who should/could have wond gold and didn't. The other "greatest American skater that never won a gold medal" is Janet Lynn. In fact, if you ask many skaters who their favorite skater or idol is, they'll say Janet Lynn. Truly a great talent. Her skating was almost mystical. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:39:28 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Ab Fab BUBBLE....BUBBLE.... WHAT IS YOUR JOB? A: ???? It's my all tiem favorite AbFab line (apologies for the NJC) On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 12:01 PM, hell wrote: > William wrote: > >> Dunno if you have this documented Mr Murphy Cop, Joni is refered to in >> an >> episode of Absolutely Fabulous. Maybe that should be "reefered" to, >> considering the nature of the story line. I posted the sighting several >> months back. Which particular show escapes me the noo, but Patsy and/or >> Edina convolutedly mentions The Hissing of Summer Lawns. I'll look into > it. > > Ooooh! Two of my favourite subjects in one message! > > This episode was the second-to-last of the third series. Eddie and > Patsy > are getting stoned in the bathroom, when Saffie walks in (she's left > home to > stay at the University hostel). Patsy needs a waz and is told to use > the > upstairs bathroom, so she leaves the room: > > Eddie: Darling, why don't you come home? > > Saffron: What's the problem? I have my life, you have yours. This is > what > you wanted. > > Eddie: Because I feel orphaned, you know? > > Saffron: What's the matter, has the deal fallen through? > > Eddie: Not the deal, not the deal.....it's just...... > > Saffron: What?! > > Eddie: Well darling, you just sort of... you've just sort of abandoned > me in > this sort of wilderness of potential greatness and fabulousness, haven't > you, darling? You know, and all my walls have gone flop, flop, flop, > flop. > And now I'm just kind of like this kind of prisoner, this released > prisoner, > darling, walking out into the squinting sun > > Patsy re-enters, and says: And the Hissing of Summer Lawns..... > > Eddie: You cast me adrift with no oars, sweetie. > > Saffron: You've got oars. > > Eddie: I haven't!!! > > Saffron: You have!!! You're just too lazy and fat to use them! > > > God, I love this show! Someone ask me another question! Please?! > > Hell > ____________________________ > "To have great poets, there must be > great audiences too." - Walt Whitman > > hell@ihug.co.nz > Hell's Personal Photo Page: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm > > Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: > http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:50:37 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Richard Thompson epiphany NJC I recently wrote about how I wasn't ready to accept Bob Dylan into my life until this year. The same thing just happened with Richard Thompson. I heard he was coming to Milwaukee and decided to take a chance and go, solely based on his performance in the Joni tribute. Sometimes it's interesting to go to a concert when you have little or no knowledge of the person. I'm glad to say that everything about the show was impressive....the songs, his voice and most of all his guitar mastery. He has a wonderful sense of humor and was really comfortable conversing with the audience. (It was a very small venue.) In one unique segment he told about being asked to name the best 20 songs of the last 1,000 years. He didn't think they really meant 1,000 years, so he named songs starting in the 12th century. To illustrate some of them, he played a 14th century Italian ballad, "Shenandoah," and then "Oops...I Did It Again!" (In his own style, of course....very interesting!) I'm running out of superlatives to describe him, so I'll quote his review in the paper..."He is simply among the finest rock musicians to ever pick up a guitar. It's the rare rocker who can flourish without the support of a band. Thompson plays with such remarkable finesse and power that his solo show Monday never felt spare or incomplete." Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:05:02 EST From: KLCass21@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #56 In a message dated 2/25/2002 3:03:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > So if you have any Joni sightings at your next movie -- Herself, her art, > black crows, or whatever -- please let me know. > Hello - Wasn't Joni mentioned at the beginning of an otherwise forgettable teen movie called "Down To You", with Freddie Prinz Jr.? I saw it last year and recall anticipating a significant Joni reference due to the title of the movie. I believe Prinz's character mentions the 3 great voices - Billie Holiday, Patsy Cline (I think) and Joni. Kurt NP: Pretenders - Tattooed Love Boys ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:14:34 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Renaldo and Clara NJC The Movie Store that I rent from has several unreleased titles other than Renaldo and Clara, forinstance, Hard Rain, Cocksucker Blues by the Rolling Stones and others. I dont know how they got them, but they did and I decided to take my possibly only chance in a long while to view it. Blair ::) NP: My OLd Man, The Mitchell > >How did you manage to *rent* this unreleased-to-video holy grail? I've only >ever seen it available in dubbed copies in the gray markets. > >Gil _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:20:35 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Joni/Bob Trivia Actually, I dont know if this has been answered yet, but they both have covered "Its all over now, Baby Blue" Joni's version is going to appear on the new Remastered version of Dog Eat Dog. Blair _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:37:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni/Bob Trivia << "Its all over now, Baby Blue" Joni's version is going to appear on the new Remastered version of Dog Eat Dog. >> That's a cool guess, Blair! Since she hasn't 'officially' released it yet, it ain't exactly valid but hey you get 8 bonus points for the effort! ;~) I hope that happens - I'm anxious to hear it. The closest thing I've got is a radio interview from '91 where she starts some random chording, which quickly morphs into the chord sequence for "Not To Blame", and then she starts singing "It's All Over Now..." really a fairly bizarre moment! Bob NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Women Be Wise" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:40:16 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: alison putting out olympic flame NJC i love how this thread has changed but alison is still putting out the Olympic flame with her tush! wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:17:21 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Richard Thompson epiphany/Jonatha NJC kerry wrote: > > I recently wrote about how I wasn't ready to accept Bob Dylan into my life > until this year. The same thing just happened with Richard Thompson. I > heard he was coming to Milwaukee and decided to take a chance and go, solely > based on his performance in the Joni tribute. Sometimes it's interesting to > go to a concert when you have little or no knowledge of the person. I'm > glad to say that everything about the show was impressive....the songs, his > voice and most of all his guitar mastery. Aaahh, yeah, what a guy!!! I, too, was so impressed with his performance at the Joni tribute that I investigated further. And lucky you, Kerry, to be hearing live some of the new songs that will be on his next cd, being recorded this spring. For anyone who's curious about this wonderman, here's a link I found today to an actual performance from his "Mock Tudor" tour. It gives a taste of what he's like in concert, in this case with a band and playing electric guitar. (Alas, there's no Joni performance available.) In his solo shows, it's really amazing to me the rich and complex sounds he gets out of that one beat-up acoustic guitar; it sounds like three people playing. http://www.primeticket.net/shows/richardthompson/ He's also here on the World Cafe, a radio program, playing solo: http://xpn.org/sites/wc/wherenow.mv This requires Windows Media Player, which I don't have, so haven't heard this performance. For all you Jonatha Brooke fans, there's also a Jonatha segment here too. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:16:37 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002 Logo!! I can not access this because I do not have Explorer as a browser. Bummer. Peace and Love...Sharon > Maggie McNally wrote: > > Oh what a difficult decision! I'm glad I have some time to mull it > over...thank you to all who prepared submissions, even though you made > the voting all the more difficult. Isn't democracy grand? > > Maggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com > [mailto:AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:30 PM > To: joni@smoe.org; NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [NortheastJonifest] Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest > 2002 Logo!! > > The Jonifest 2002 contest is now over, and the entries are > up for all of you to vote on. > Please keep in mind that for what the logo is going to be > used for, it needs to be simple and have the words Northeast > Back to the Garden Jonifest 2002 on the logo. > > Go here to vote: > http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest2002/logocontest.cfm > > The dealine is March 10th, and please only ONE vote per > lister. > > If you have submitted a logo, and don't see it here, please > know that if it didn't meet the criteria, it was eliminated. > If you sent a logo in with the criteria being met and don't > see it here, please e-mail me. Thanks, and good luck to all > that entered! > > Hugs, > Ashara > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:22:06 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Am listening to Joni on Radio AOL! Waaaaaah!!! I am hearing Crazy Cries of Love on Radio AOL right now! I am listening to the Smooth Jazz station. This is why I am so surprised! Of course you know I rated the song as a "Love It!" so that they will play her material again. Waaaaah!!! Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:33:28 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Vote for Your Favorite Jonifest 2002Logo!! "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > I can not access this because I do not have Explorer as a browser. > Bummer. > > Peace and Love...Sharon Emily Letilla said: "Never Mind" Love and Peace...Pinhead ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #92 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?