From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #62 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, February 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 062 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC [colin ] Re: dingoes and accents NJC [colin ] Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC [colin ] Re: reincarnation NJC [colin ] Today in History: February 7 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: February 7 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Janis NJC ["hell" ] Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Old Farts Hijack JMDL (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Wally B.'s Birthday njc ["Denknee" ] Re: All this talk about the Sixties ["Mark or Travis" ] NP: Buddy/Julie Miller, "The River's Gonna Run" (njc) / uncut magazine samplers ["Ron Greer" ] Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: The Kiva [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: All this talk about the 60's now........(NJC) [Alison E ] Re: here come the olympics NJC [Gil Lamont ] Re: Old Farts met the 60's and Abilene(NJC) [Alison E ] Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Janis NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Janis NJC [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? ["Donna J. Binkley" ] Re: Johnny Guitar NJC [Gil Lamont ] RE: Bee-fest and Tex-fest NJC [cvickery@danielrealty.com] Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC [Gil Lamont ] Re: Bee-fest and Tex-fest NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Old Farts Rule! (NJC) [Gil Lamont ] RE: Janis NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: All this talk about the 60's now........(NJC) [Gil Lamont ] Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC [Gil Lamont ] Re: CD's NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [Nuriel Tobias ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:46:58 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC > Sooo,Colin,John,Wolf,Hell,Laurent(French?)Willie do you guys ever read our > posts with an american accent? > i do. i also tend to 'hear' a different voice too. i.e male /female. i have always done this when reading. i am good at hearing voices..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:48:44 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC > Mongolian > bar-Que. this sounds intersting . what is it? I know it's food(or assume it is) but what is in it? bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:52:17 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Wally B. I think it is wonderful that you were there for him Jim. a truly loving act. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:54:59 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: dingoes and accents NJC > Emma Thompson in 'Primary Colors'. I love Emma and think she's one of the > finest in the business but her 'American' accent really sucked in that > movie. it was bad to us too! > > > Mark E. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:59:13 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC > obfuscation now how I can reply when you start using big words i don't understand? > > > Gil - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:09:52 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: reincarnation NJC > but > I think anyone who believes as you said, "what happens to us in this life is > retribution/compensation for previous lives." hasn't really educated > themselves & is just using pop psychology so to speak. I must be more precise when I write. I am aware that not everyone can think the way the reincarnationists here that I have across think. What i wrote was merely my thoughts on it. I have seen a few documentaries on the subject, the most memorable being The Bloxham Tapes and the one about this English woman who kept dreaming that she had been an Irish woman with many children. All the details she recalled were verified and she had a meeting with her surviving children, all elderly, who accepted that she had been their mother and she became accepted as part of their family. A moving and fascinating story. I did wonder tho, and it is just a thought, whether this woman had for some reason, been chosen by the mother in her spirit form to go and 'gather the family' to let them know that their mother was okay. Those that have left the physical plane often come back to 'talk' to us and perhaps this woman was very perceptive and was aware of the presence of this woman. The way spirit talk is inward and I suppose could feel like memory. One of things I look forward to in death is finding out the answers! It will be a great adventure.(and hopefully minus those who think they already have the answers!) bw colin ps I said a lot more in my post and i suppose i am disappointed it was ignored. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 04:07:52 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 7 On February 7 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Boston City Music Hall - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database at http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 04:07:52 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 7 On February 7 the following article was published: 1974: "Concert Rocks Ithaca" - Ithacan (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740207i.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:39:58 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Janis NJC Vince wrote: > >And there is no actress or singer who can do our Janis any justice. To which Fred replied: > Bottom line: very true. > > However, the best thing I ever heard Melissa Ethridge (of whom I am not > especially a fan) sing was "Take Another Little Piece of My Heart" at > Woodstock 2 ... when she let out the a capella scream towards the end of the > song, I got the gooseflesh real good. She's no Janis, no one is, but if a > movie is to be made, Melissa just might do justice. This thought occurred to me too. I am a fan of Melissa Etheridge, and have most of her albums. She would definitely be the one to carry off the voice (I'm only speaking of singers I know), but I'm not so sure of her acting ability. I've seen her do cameos (as herself) in a couple of shows, and she wasn't bad, but this is a much bigger ask. While I agree that no one can really do Janis justice - if someone said I had to name someone, Melissa would be the one. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 02:50:24 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC > > Mongolian > > bar-Que. > >this sounds intersting . what is it? I know it's food(or assume it is) but >what >is in it? It is good Colin. Basically you create your own stir-fry. Choose what vegetables you want, put those in a bowl......Bok-choy,bean sprouts,spring onions,carrots,waterchestnuts,there is usually quite an array. Then you choose what type of meat i.e. lamb,pork,chicken,beef or shrimp. Then put a couple of dips of sauce over everything....sauces are very good.....some to choose from are....garlic/oil..sesame sauce, hot/oil (spicy),house special with soy sauce. Then you take your bowl up to the giant wok and the guy stir-fries it for you. This guy is quite entertaining and keeps a jar for tips because it quite interesting to watch him toss your food. Then when he is all finished;your food is cooked, he swoops your food back into your bowl with out dropping any on the floor. (he uses these long,long sticks to stir with) Come to Cincinnati sometime and I'll treat you and John. I mean this. Take care, Bree >bw >colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:57:23 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: RE: All this talk about the Sixties What with all this reminiscing about the 60s and 70s in the USA I thought Id mention a few important musical highlights of my formative years over the pond in the uk. I remember it as if it were yesterday. The Isle of Wight Festival, July 1970. Catching the ferry from Dover to Freshwater Bay and taking the train to the festival site (sight?). Four days of wonderful music, except for Hawkwind playing every night in the canvas city. All the big names were there; Tiny Tim, a weird American singer who, as everyone knows, took his name from a character in a book by Thackeray. Who could forget his classic rendition of Tulips from Amsterdam? And then there was John Sebastian, former leader of the Turtles, who had decided on a solo career after the success of his single Young Girl. Unforgettable. He played an acoustic set because the roadies had problems with the snow and it took so long to set up the electric bands that they alternated electric and acoustic sets. Another acoustic set was played by Al Stewart (actually with the problems of running late he was only allowed to do one song, fortunately a wonderful 15-minute song called Love Chronicles). I would have loved to have heard the electric version. Im surprised he didnt make a new version when he joined the Faces but thats how musicians are, I suppose; they move on to new material, and I have to admit that Maggie May was a belting song. And lets not forget Jimi Hendrix, thrashing his guitar around the stage and doing a unique version of God Save the Queen, backed by the Sex Pistols. Of course, not all the people agreed with his histrionics and were relieved to see him a calmer man after he joined Lambert and Ross. But lets cut to the chase; the reason we are all here  Ms Mitchells appearance. I will never forget the way she strolled onto the stage, dressed entirely in green, her boyishly cut raven hair glinting in the early morning sunshine. There she was, hunched over the piano, hammering out the opening chords of Big Orange Taxi, the hit single taken for the Mingus album, the surprise success crossover album of 1969. When she was interrupted during the intro to A Case of Blue Nun by someone she met in Matala, she smiled benignly and told the audience that she had recently attended a Hippy Wedding ceremony and said that the guests were acting like Hopis and that the audience should respect tourists because artists put their souls into their performances. When the police dragged the intruder off the stage she picked up her trusty VG-8 and played Blue, which brought the house down and sent the audience back to their tents whistling while night fell over the mountains Unforgettable, and you know there may be more mike in bcn - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:43:09 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: foreign accents NJC >>before i am flamed beyond recognition for being un-PC, let me say i have a foreign accent so i am kind of like entitled to do ''B&N latina girl'' at leisure.<< Wally, nobody has a foreign accent: people have their personal way of talking that other people find foreign. Relieved to hear from you again, Un beso, maik in barcelona - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:05:23 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Old Farts Hijack JMDL (NJC) In a message dated 2/6/2002 10:00:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: > O.K. that does it I can't stand it anymore!! I'm hereby starting the JMDL > '60s subset chapter. We MUST organize a Back To The Past Fest/retreat in > Big Sur or something weekend so we can all wallow blissfully in our > memories! ;-) I'm THERE!!!!!!!!!!! :-D I am really living in the past vicariously with all these book and video suggestions, not to mention the ones I've already started with. Thanks to all of you that have made suggestions- -my pocketbook is lighter after ordering a bunch of stuff. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:30:52 -0500 From: "Denknee" Subject: Wally B.'s Birthday njc "I've been very touched reading the many loving remembrances of Wally (B.) that have been posted recently. He would have turned 50 today." Tho' Wally and I kinda lost touch once he got busy with the Joni site, we used to spend hours on the phone talking music and just life stuff... Such a giving man... he provided me with so many rare recordings by Joni and Laura Nyro... my two favourite artists... and somehow found video rarities on Tim Buckley and Dusty Springfield (he revived an interested in Dusty in me) and SO many others. I was SO happy for him when I learned that he visited Joni at her estate. Talk about having your dreams come true... Happy Belated, Wally B... wherever it is our souls fly to... - -denknee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:46:40 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: All this talk about the Sixties When the police dragged > the intruder off the stage she picked up her trusty VG-8 and played > Blue, which brought the house down and sent the audience back to their > tents whistling while night fell over the mountains Unforgettable, and > you know there may be more > > mike in bcn Sounds a bit like the Paz Chin-in. What a festival that one was! Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:00:42 -0500 From: Ken Subject: NJC Bruce Cockburn on Radio this Morning For those of you who also like Bruce Cockburn he will be live on CKUT this morning at 10am EST. This station can be picked up by Real Audio. http://www.ckut.ca/ear.html Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:04:44 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: NP: Buddy/Julie Miller, "The River's Gonna Run" (njc) / uncut magazine samplers hi bob >>>>NP: Buddy/Julie Miller, "The River's Gonna Run" i got this track on an "uncut" magazine sampler (december issue) - is the rest of the album as good as this track??? also on the subject of uncut magazine. the january issue was supposed to have 2 sampler discs of rolling stones covers. for some strange reason all the shops here only got copies with a single disc - volume 2 - no volume 1. now volume 1 apparently has a ryan adams/beth orton duet (forget the song name now) which i am really, really curious to hear. is there anyone who could either send me a copy of disc 1, or alternatively buy a copy of the magazine, and send me just the first disc? i would obviously pay all costs.. ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:52:17 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NP: Buddy/Julie Miller, "The River's Gonna Run" (njc) / uncut magazine samplers <> I would say so...I enjoyed the entire CD with the first listen, which believe it or not is unusual for me. They have a strong Emmylou connection anyway, and a very similar sound. If you like the one track, you're gonna like the whole shebang. Bob NP: Suzanne Vega, "Harbor Song" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:57:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Lithograph entitled "Joni Mitchell" Wonder if any of the art cono-sewers out there can help me estimate the worth of this Joni item: It's a lithograph/etching portrait of Joni and is signed by the artist (Cynthia Marsh) as well as signed (on the back) by: Joni Joel Bernstein Norman Seeff Glen Christensen Any help would be appreciated. And no, this is not an item in MY possession! ;~) Bob NP: Suzanne Vega, "Machine Ballerina" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: CHRIS TREACY Subject: The Kiva To take it one step further, the Kiva is actually where Joni's bedroom was originally...now renovated into a studio. So, according to my calculations, the lush green velvet landscapes of Joni's boudoir as photographed in Architectural Digest are no more. I think it's kind of amusing that Shawn Colvin's "Fat City" was recorded in Joni Mitchell's bedroom...going for a mood, perhaps? Not sure if they got it, but a great CD nonetheless. Later On, Chris NP: Tori, 11-20-01 Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:13:27 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC > > Mongolian > > bar-Que. > >this sounds intersting . what is it? I know it's food(or assume it is) but >what >is in it? >bw >colin It is good Colin. Basically you create your own stir-fry. You take a bowl up where this is an array of vegetables i.e. bok-choy,bean sprouts,water chestnutss,spring onions,carrots etc. Then choose a meat such as......beef,pork,chicken,lamb or shrimp. You can put a few dips of sauce on.....hot/oil(spicy)sesame oil,lemon water,house special sauce and of course the traditional soy sauce. You proceed to this *GIANT* wok and the guy stir-fries your creation. It is quite fun and interesting to watch him. He makes it almost artful. He uses these long,long sticks and when finished cooking your stir-fry he'll swoop your food,without dropping any on the floor.. back into your bowl. He might be stir-frying as many as five or six other peoples food at one time. If you and John are ever in Cincinnati,I'd like to treat you. I mean this. Take care everyone, Bree _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:20:49 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: All this talk about the 60's now........(NJC) Alison wrote: >yep, the first olympic torch relay was created as >essentially a marketing device by the germans for the >1936 nazi olympic games. And Hitler's dreams of the 1936 Olympics demonstrating once and for all the superior Aryan qualities were kinda messed up by Jesse Owens. >hinckley's carrying the torch???? wha????? >i'm sure it will be on the news everywhere, after all >he IS THE PROPHET!!!!! LOL! ;-) I like the idea of a 91 yr old man carrying the torch. He's got the vigor and enthusiasm to do it. Besides, could Mitt Romney deny the Prophet from carrying the torch? He'd be ashamed to show his face. >my best friend's mom is also carrying the torch, the >only torch related event threatening to bring me from >the safe and quiet of my new apartment... Our desires to watch the torch relay here in Sacramento were dashed by lingering head colds and an icy wind. We saw it on tv, though. Gil NP Stephen Scott, New Music for Bowed Piano ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 16:46:13 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: reading posts with a accent....your accent NJC Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > > Mongolian > > > bar-Que. > > > >this sounds intersting . what is it? I know it's food(or assume it is) but > >what > >is in it? > > It is good Colin. Basically you create your own stir-fry. sounds heavenly. > > > Come to Cincinnati sometime and I'll treat you and John. I mean > this. Thank you very much. you know if I ever get over there again, I shall have to come in secret as I have so many invites I couldn't possibly go to all the places with the USA being so big and I wouldn't want to offend anyone! Unless of course I win the lottery........ > > > Take care, > Bree > > >bw > >colin > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:48:31 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Janis NJC Ashara wrote: >I remember the warm-up band was The Ultimate Spinach. >Never heard of them then or since. Per http://members.home.net/hartmangs/uspinach.htm: Late-1960s psychedelic band from Boston, Massachusetts, in three incarnations. The first lineup (Ian Bruce-Douglas, Geoffrey Winthrop, Barbara Hudson, Richard Nese, Keith Lahteinen) recorded the eponymous first album. The second, Russell Levine replacing Lahteinen on drums, recorded Behold and See. (Bruce-Douglas later formed The Apocalypse, Bloodlust, and Azlbrax. I haven't heard of any of these bands.) Version three jettisoned all but Hudson and Levine, and added Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, which is the Steel Dan connection rumored about all these years. They recorded the contractual obligation album. I had a lot of records in the 1960s, but never by these guys. That name was typical of psychedelic bands -- Electric Prunes (great), Chocolate Watch Band, Strawberry Alarm Clock, H.P. Lovecraft, Jefferson Airplane, Dukes of Stratosfear, Golliwogs, Charlatans... For further info, read Ralph Gleason's THE JEFFERSON AIRPLANE AND THE SAN FRANCISCO ROCK SCENE ... if you can find it! At the back is a list of the 250+ bands then flourishing in the Bay area. Now we all know more than we ever wanted to. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: The Kiva Her ex-bedroom? LOL Thanks, Chris, for this coooool post! The Shawn Colvin part made me blush a bit:) BTW - Where can i see a photo of Joni's house? I already know what's her kitchen like (As seen in the clip for Dancing Clown where she's molsting a cat...:)) Nuri - --- CHRIS TREACY wrote: >To take it one step further, the Kiva is actually >where Joni's bedroom was originally...now renovated >into a studio. So, according to my calculations, the >lush green velvet landscapes of Joni's boudoir as >photographed in Architectural Digest are no more. > >I think it's kind of amusing that Shawn Colvin's "Fat >City" was recorded in Joni Mitchell's bedroom...going >for a mood, perhaps? Not sure if they got it, but a >great CD nonetheless. > >Later On, >Chris > >NP: Tori, 11-20-01 >Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! >http://greetings.yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:50:10 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: All this talk about the 60's now........(NJC) yes, of course all HST is classic. i also remembered another one, Timothy Leary's autobiography, Flashbacks. it was so fascinating, especially if you read electric kool aid first. it shows the contrast between east coast/west coast alternative cultures in an interesting way. one of the most best parts of the book is when leary talks about the merry pranksters (kesey's contingency) arriving at Leary's estate in upstate new york. they are all absolutely jumping with excitement to meet the great leary...and he's on a do-not-disturb, three day mushroom experiment in the guest house! so they leave without ever having spoken with him. that's a 3000 mile bummer! tim leary was an incredible guy. alison e. in slc np: george mcgovern on NPR, dianne ream show. talking about world hunger. (no shit--what a coincidence) - --- jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph wrote: > Hunter S. Thompson's FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS > was a favorite of mine > long before it was made into a movie ( Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:52:37 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in Texas? Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would anyone come this far? db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini JMDL get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:00:58 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: accents NJC colin wrote: >Do English actors speaking in an Amrican accemnt sound terrible to you? No, most of them seem to master it fairly well. In recent memory Jeremy Northam in HAPPY, TEXAS was great. >Americans speaking in a british accent sound awful really bad. Recently parodied in an episode of JUST SHOOT ME, where everyone speaks in the worst cliches of posh English except Maya, whose accent is good but totally incomprehensible to the rest of the staff. > cept for >Renee whatsername in Bridget Jones . She was so good I assumed she was >English So did everyone else, until the wrap party. >cos I didn't rrealise she was the same actor who was in that >starnge film wheree she was a waitress and she sw her hubby killed by >Chris Rock(most annoying man). NURSE BETTY. An annoying film, due mostly to the gratuitous profanity. >Tonight in 3rd rock, there were 2 actors. one with an English accent and >one with a Scots accent. both terrible. Being used to Craig Ferguson's English accent on DREW CAREY, I thought he did a wonderful Scottish accent in SAVING GRACE ... and then I learned he's Scottish. I still had to translate parts of THE FULL MONTY for my wife, but mostly idioms. In the 1960s I watched THE HILL, one of Sean Connery's non-Bond films during the Bond craze, and had to translate every line for my date. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:05:18 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: here come the olympics NJC Alison wrote: >please read the >hilariously funny VERY SARCASTIC and tongue in cheek >article from a local alternative weekly. LOL! Thanks! I needed that. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Old Farts met the 60's and Abilene(NJC) - --- darice@mindspring.com wrote: books by Jerry Rubin "do it", Abby Hoffman > "Steal this book", Eric Burdon's > books, Grace Slick's auto biography ( try this one > on tape, she reads it herself). of course! i finished reading that grace slick biography (Somebody to Love) a few months ago. a great and very fun read. she has such great humor, about all she's been through. i can see how the book on tape would be good, because as i read it it was like listening to her talk, like having a conversation. very informal and easy to read. and "steal this book" is also great, but if you're overloaded with books at this point, rent Steal this Movie, an excellent adaptation of the book starring Vincent D'Onofrio (sp?) as Abby and Janeane Garafolo as his wife Anita and a whole bunch of other great people. a truly good movie, well acted and pretty true to the actual history and the book. alison e. in slc Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:11:02 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Old Farts Hijack JMDL (NJC) Steve wrote: > >This of course triggers another memory, of seeing a triple bill at the > >Hollywood Palladium of Pogo, the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, who not only > >performed "Death Cab for Cutie" but famously parodied the next band, The > Who. > >Oh, shit, Gil, I was there! June 13, 1969. That was when The Who >did their "west coast premiere" of Tommy. I thought all three >bands were terrific. One of the best shows I've ever been to. Dude! The crowd went crazy when Richie Furay started singing "Short changed, I've got to hand it to you." The Bonzo Dog would sing a number and then everyone would rotate on instruments. Viv Stanshall came out wearing a false front of bare breasts. At some point he smashed a balsa guitar. The Who did Tommy and *didn't* smash their instruments -- bummer! -- and at the end rose petals showered down on everyone. Of course the music, all of it, was incredible. Yr brother in tie-dye. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:30:26 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? Dear Donna: You and I talked the other night about having a midwest mini JoniFest. Any takers in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and surrounding states? I have a big house...five bedrooms! And I can also invite some wonderful local musicians to join us. Love and Peace...Sherrie Let me know... "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > > What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in > Texas? > > Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would > anyone come this far? > > db > > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) > > The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham > at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini > JMDL > get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:35:22 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: CD's NJC I have been burning a lot of CD's lately. For whatever reason, some come up as duds and an error comes up and they are unusable. Putting on my Heloise hat I believe these can be used as coasters...are there any other uses out there? Peace....Sharon...anxious for Spring. Writing a brief and baking cookies. NP: Daddy Squeeze and Dr. D. Big Legged Woman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:27:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Janis NJC >>I remember the warm-up band was The Ultimate Spinach. Never heard of them then or since.<< LOL, I had their album! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:40:35 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Janis NJC Kate Bennett wrote: > >>I remember the warm-up band was The Ultimate Spinach. Never heard of them > then or since.<< > > LOL, I had their album! I can top that. I had the Electric Prunes album Kyrie. Oh what a time. Jerry np: Rufus Wainwright - Across the Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:16 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? I'm there! Just let me know when. db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Sharon L. Buffington Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:30 AM To: Donna J. Binkley Cc: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? Dear Donna: You and I talked the other night about having a midwest mini JoniFest. Any takers in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and surrounding states? I have a big house...five bedrooms! And I can also invite some wonderful local musicians to join us. Love and Peace...Sherrie Let me know... "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > > What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in > Texas? > > Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would > anyone come this far? > > db > > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) > > The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham > at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini > JMDL > get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:48:55 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Australian/New Zealand accents (NJC) At 12:00 AM 2/7/2002, you wrote: >There is a difference between Australian and New Zealand accents, but it's >not that noticeable - a bit like comparing the US and Canadian accents. >Those "in the know" can pick it, but to others, they sound the same. And I >can hear all the Canadians saying "Oh, how horrible, our accent is >completely different to that crass American one!" Too right! My litmus test is to have a Canuck read out loud "about farming" which would then sound to my corrupted ears a lot closer to "a boat firming." It's not really all "oot and aboot." And when you meet a French Canadian, be sure to say, "Comment allez-vous, eh?" >Hell - a New Zealander with a strong Kiwi accent, and damn proud of it! Good on ya, mate! ;-) According to my Far Side Of-the-Wall Calendar, February 6 was Waitangi Day in your neck of the woods. What's up with that? Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:52:54 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: reincarnation NJC interesting story, colin...i only responded to part of your previous post due to my time limitations, btw, i think you were very precise...i only meant to add my thoughts to yours... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:53:33 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Johnny Guitar NJC Bob: >I love this movie. It is film noir that is just so noir it makes "Sunset >Boulevard" look like a Disney production. Crawford was butch and dangerous >and great, but Mercedes McCambridge was pure evil! This one's so noir it fell through the other side. I never saw so much scenery chewed until Burton & Taylor. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:51:53 -0600 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: RE: Bee-fest and Tex-fest NJC in for a penny, in for a pound, huh? yeah, i'm in, assuming there's a close airport and cheap flights. c _______________________________________ Cindy Vickery Daniel Corporation 205-443-4718 direct 205-443-4615 facsimile http://www.danielcorp.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:55:50 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC Bob wrote: >In a message dated 2/6/02 10:24:42 PM, courtandspark@earthlink.net writes: > ><< My hand is up Gil. >> > >Now it's my turn for a little restraint! I'm working Very Hard to pretend I'm a ventriloquist's dummy. Yeah. That was the intent. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:10:14 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Bee-fest and Tex-fest NJC Is this for Boston or the midwest? I will chat with some other local festers and set a date and we will go from there. cvickery@danielrealty.com wrote: > > in for a penny, in for a pound, huh? > yeah, i'm in, assuming there's a close airport and cheap flights. > > c > _______________________________________ > Cindy Vickery > Daniel Corporation > 205-443-4718 direct > 205-443-4615 facsimile > http://www.danielcorp.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:02:30 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: How to count in Australian and American Hell wrote: >Australians always think it's funny to make NZers say the >number 6, because we sound like we're saying "sux". But they sound like >they're talking about carnal knowledge, so the joke is on them. For a while the writer Harlan Ellison had an Australian secretary. One of her duties was to call some agency and give an account number to a computer. The poor machine couldn't understand a word she said, so we had to teach her to count from 0 to 9 in American: Wun : Wun Toe : Too Thray : Thuree Faw : Fower Fighv : Fiyiv Sex : Six Sayven : Seven Ight : Eight Nun : Niyin Zero : Zero Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:03:08 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Best of Covers (a question) Bob......Is there any "Best of..." cd (or cd's) that was made out of all the covers cd's you've done so far? If so - how was the playlist made? In any case, if you were asked what were the best 10-15 Joni covers you ever heard - what would they be? It's such a sad thing about putting MP'3s in the net (and i'm talking legal MP3's that the artists want to let us hear, like maybe the list musicians covering Joni or their own music, oh that should've been heaven) - it's only these days that i understand how high is the cost for that, expensive indeed, and that's sad. I'd love it if the jmdl.com had some MP3's, but the money thing is an issue.....i think?) Thanks, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:08:54 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Old Farts Rule! (NJC) Darice wrote: >My two visual memories of Monterey Pop are Janis, John Cippolina , and >Mickey Dolenz. I can still remember seeing John Cippolina of Quicksilver >from across the seating area and falling in love with his hair (it was >even longer than mine). Quicksilver. One of *the* underrated bands. Superb before Dino Valente (re)joined them. Gil Aw, jeez, now I'm gonna hafta dig into the CDs packed away and get out all my West Coast psychedelia. Country Joe and the Fish. Janis. Jimi. Quicksilver. Doors. Spirit. Dead. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:18:20 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Janis NJC i think i had that one too! >>I can top that. I had the Electric Prunes album Kyrie. Oh what a time.<<< Jerry ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:20:42 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: All this talk about the 60's now........(NJC) joseph wrote: >Hunter S. Thompson's FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS was a favorite of mine >long before it was made into a movie (I liked the book so much and Johnny >Depp and Benicio del Toro that I chose to believe the film was also good). >I was born in 1968 and I only got to read the books during that decade when >I was well in my thirties. But was this book published during the 60s? It >certainly felt as though it belonged to the radical 60s. FEAR AND LOATHING was originally serialized in Rolling Stone back when RS was on the west coast, was a newspaper, and actually cared about the counterculture. (RS used to offer a roach clip as its premium for subscribing.) It was published as a two part serial (as by Raoul Duke) in November 1971. I think it caught the sense of the 1960s as it spun out of control into the 1970s. The summer of love died at Altamont, and having longhair became dangerous (again) in L.A. after Charlie Manson. It was the Beginning of the End. Not that we couldn't laugh about it while the palace was burning. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:22:27 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Axes? We don' need no steekeeng axes! Hi, all -- this was forwarded to me, so I can't take any credit. I need to check out SatireWire.com -- the writing reminds me a lot of The Onion. Enjoy. -- Walt ANGERED BY SNUBBING, LIBYA, CHINA SYRIA FORM AXIS OF JUST AS EVIL Cuba, Sudan, Serbia Form Axis of Somewhat Evil; Other Nations Start Own Clubs Beijing (SatireWire.com) Bitter after being snubbed for membership in the "Axis of Evil," Libya, China, and Syria today announced they had formed the"Axis of Just as Evil," which they said would be way eviler than that stupid Iran-Iraq-North Korea axis President Bush warned of his State of the Union address. Axis of Evil members, however, immediately dismissed the new axis as having, for starters, a really dumb name. "Right. They are Just as Evil... in their >dreams!" declared North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're >the best evils... best at being evil... we're the best." > >Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being excluded, although >they conceded they did ask if they could join the Axis of Evil. >"They told us it was full," said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. >"An Axis can't have more than three countries," explained Iraqi President >Saddam Hussein. "This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War II you >had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So you can only have three. >And a secret handshake. Ours is wicked cool." > >THE AXIS PANDEMIC > >International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as >within minutes, France surrendered. >Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain triumvirate status in what >became a game of geopolitical chairs. Cuba, Sudan, and Serbia said they had >formed the Axis of Somewhat Evil, forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and >Myanmar in the Axis of Occasionally Evil, while Bulgaria, Indonesia and >Russia established the Axis of Not So Much Evil Really As Just Generally >Disagreeable. > >With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling up, >Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the Axis of >Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the >Olympics; Canada, Mexico, and Australia formed the Axis of Nations That >AreActually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Nasty Thoughts About America, >while Spain, Scotland, and New Zealand established the Axis of Countries That Be >Allowed to Ask Sheep to Wear Lipstick. "That's not a threat, really, just something we like to do," said Scottish >Executive First Minister Jack McConnell. While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making >fun of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axes, although he >rejected the establishment of the Axis of countries Whose Names End in "Guay," >accusing one of its members of filing a false application. Officials from >Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges. > >Israel, meanwhile, insisted it didn't want to join any Axis, but privately, >world leaders said that's only because no one asked them. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:27:46 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) <> Nope (not yet) <> I compile them as I get them, except for the BSN's. There are just so many of them I stick one in every 4th or 5th song. I've got a long BSN waiting list and more coming in all the time. If there are song repetitions, I try and spread them out so as not to have BYT's & Woodstock's stuck together. <> MY top 15 (in no order): All I Want - Lydia van Dam Black Crow - Will Taylor Blue Motel Room - Lorraine Gervais Both Sides Now - Jason Falkner Conversation - Anni Clark Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention Betty Buckley - I Had A King Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand Little Green - Jack Donahue Man From Mars - Chaka Khan P.M. Dawn - Night In The City People's Parties - Lydia van Dam River - Dianne Reeves Same Situation - Christine Collister/Clive Gregson That Song ABout The Midway - Bonnie Raitt This Flight Tonight - Rumba Club Urge For Going - Shawn Colvin Woodstock - CSNY (I had to make it 18...couldn't trim any off this list, a "Sophie's Choice" for me!) <> I've sought out and bought LOTS of music based on songs I've been able to download, either through artist sponsored or free sharing. I'm not sure it's such a sad thing. Bob NP: 4 Bitchin' Babes, "Breakfast Dishes" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:50:48 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: All this talk about the 60's now ........NJC Susan wrote: >Although I was but a babe ...ahem ... remember this movie from 1968 - >that I think would play much like "Reefer Madness" today. Anyone >remember "Wild in the Streets?" >It was done a bit tongue in cheek - I think. It was about not >trusting anyone over thirty and lowering the voting age to 14 and >putting everyone over 30 into camps where they are force fed LSD. >Shelley Winters is in this - need I say more? Written by Robert Thom. (The script to the sequel may someday be published. It was slated to appear in Harlan Ellison's THE LAST DANGEROUS VISIONS, but that will probably never leave Ellison's office, in his lifetime.) About this time (1966/67) Bill Nolan and George Clayton Johnson published LOGAN'S RUN, where anyone who's 21 is euthanized. (Changed to 30 in the movie.) It was the extrapolation of a popular attitude: "Never trust anyone over thirty." At the time it made a lot of sense: The Man can never understand us! Peace and love, Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:57:45 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Old Farts Hijack JMDL (NJC) Well, I could lead a tour, up the road to Yazgur's farm for the Jonifest 2002. I have never been back...I wonder if I could find it... >>>O.K. that does it I can't stand it anymore!! I'm hereby starting the JMDL '60s subset chapter. We MUST organize a Back To The Past Fest/retreat in Big Sur or something weekend so we can all wallow blissfully in our memories! ;-)<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:55:13 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Buff Mystery Solved NJC colin wrote: > > obfuscation > >now how I can reply when you start using big words i don't understand? It's all part of an invidious plan. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:56:31 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: CD's NJC There may be some ingrained resistance to setting your cup on what looks like a $15 CD....maybe if you write 'coaster' on them... They are also good reflectors, nail them on fenceposts in hazardous areas. I also have a clock made from one. RR who also gets lots of duds, building up quite a stack of them... "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > I have been burning a lot of CD's lately. For whatever reason, some > come up as duds and an error comes up and they are unusable. Putting on > my Heloise hat I believe these can be used as coasters...are there any > other uses out there? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:57:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: "(if you were asked what were the best 10-15 Joni covers you ever heard - what would they be?) "MY top 15 (in no order): All I Want - Lydia van Dam Black Crow - Will Taylor Blue Motel Room - Lorraine Gervais Both Sides Now - Jason Falkner Conversation - Anni Clark Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention Betty Buckley - I Had A King Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand Little Green - Jack Donahue Man From Mars - Chaka Khan P.M. Dawn - Night In The City People's Parties - Lydia van Dam River - Dianne Reeves Same Situation - Christine Collister/Clive Gregson That Song ABout The Midway - Bonnie Raitt This Flight Tonight - Rumba Club Urge For Going - Shawn Colvin Woodstock - CSNY (I had to make it 18...couldn't trim any off this list, a "Sophie's Choice" for me!)" You've just made the playlist for the first "Best Of..." cd, Bob. "It's such a sad thing about putting MP'3s in the net >> "I've sought out and bought LOTS of music based on songs I've been able to download, either through artist sponsored or free sharing. I'm not sure it's such a sad thing." Oh my - you got me wrong, i hardly have any sad feelings towards downloading. I was talking about MP3's on jmdl.com - that it's sad that there's no MP3's of Joni/Joni covers/jmdl-musicians on the site (or any other audio) because lots of site owners i know told me that they couldn't pay so much money in order to place MP3's/audio in their sites, and that it's too damn expensive. _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #62 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?