From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #29 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 18 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 029 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: January 17 [les@jmdl.com] IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW (njc) ["Ron Gr] Re: NYC gig at the Living Room !!!!! njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] for canadian smoker joni fans [shane ] Re: Dreaming of Joni again (turning njc) [FredNow@aol.com] This JUST In!!!!!! (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: (njc)Some alternate theories for Bush's facial abrasions [colin ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #28 NJC ["Steven & Babara Hirahara" ] JM tuning table -SJC- / Berlin ["vincenzo mancini" ] NJC Dutch Treats [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NAMM et al (NJC) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Hey Joe! Where you goin' with that free CD in your hand... (NJC) [cvi] Re: NJC Dutch Treats ["John van Tiel" ] Canadians (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Kate's World Tour (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] jonatha brooke NJC ["gene mock" ] RE: james last (njc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NYC gig at the Living Room !!!!! njc ["Kate" ] Puzzled over a review... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Miles of Aisles [SAVtheWAVE@aol.com] Re: Miles of Aisles [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Miles of Aisles [SAVtheWAVE@aol.com] Re: Miles of Aisles [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] (njc?) NAM????? [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: (njc?) NAM????? ["Kakki" ] Re: (njc?) NAM????? [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Canadians (NJC) [Mags N Brei ] natalie merchant njc ["joe farrell" ] More Garden Jonifest 2002 Logo Contest Information [AsharaProducLLC@aol.c] Re: IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW(njc) [Rand] Re: appalled NJC [Randy Remote ] lighter fare NJC ["gene mock" ] HOSL teaser on NPR [Scott Price ] Olympicesque ["William Waddell" ] Re: (njc?) NAM????? [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: (njc?) NAM????? [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: More Garden Jonifest 2002 Logo Contest Information- NJC [Murphycopy@a] Re: IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW(njc) [Murp] Re: appalled NJC [colin ] nice surprise njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: HOSL teaser on NPR ["Kakki" ] Re: (njc?) NAM????? ["Kakki" ] In The Bedroom (NJC) [chiaroscuro@SNET.Net] Re: appalled NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: appalled NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Hey Joe! Where you goin' with that free CD in your hand... (NJC) [Cat] Re: Olympicesque [Catherine McKay ] All My Bags Are Packed (NJC) [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 03:02:12 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: January 17 On January 17 the following articles were published: 1976: "Joni Mitchell World Tour To Follow U.S. College Gigs" - Cashbox (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/760117cb.cfm 1999: "Rebuttal to Ani DiFranco article" - Los Angeles Times (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980920lat.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:02:34 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW (njc) hi now heres a chaim mail i can live with :-) >>>Protest on Friday The Leaders of the world are asking for your support to combat terrorism and we're encouraging to demonstrate against the Taliban this Friday at 15:00 hours. It is a well-known fact that the Taliban are against alcohol consumption and think it is sinful to look at a naked woman. Therefore, at 15:00 this Friday, all women should run naked through the office while men chase them with a beer in their hands. This is the best way to show our disgust for the Taliban and will hopefully help us in detecting the terrorists among us (anybody who doesn't do as proposed will be deemed a terrorist and denounced to the World). Your efforts are much appreciated in the name of a free, democratic world. Thank you.<<< ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 03:52:37 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC gig at the Living Room !!!!! njc Well, feckin get out here and book a gig at the Living Room following Kate & Jeff for the same night. Wouldn't that be something ;~) love, rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:05:41 -0700 From: shane Subject: for canadian smoker joni fans smokers and canadians, like joni and me, can always visit the award winning canuck site: "ashtray cam": http://www.ashtraycam.com/ [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Ashtray Cam.url] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:18:39 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Dreaming of Joni again (turning njc) ZZScotty@aol.com wrote: >Brian reported: > >"Early Monday morning I was dreaming of designing Joni's BC retreat. We >had the meeting on site she was dressed in her green velvet FTR outfit, For >dinner Fryed Salmon and Potatoes . . ." > >What's this about Fred Simon in your dreams? And why disguise his name? Years ago I was playing in a restaurant/jazz bar and a friend in the audience thought that Fried Salmon was one of the specials. It was a table tent listing the musicians. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:21:21 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: This JUST In!!!!!! (NJC) Kate Bennett wrote >somehow, its hard to imagine ozzy with a mrs..lol. and another 'This JUST In!!!! - (was this thread a set up? or is the jmdl on sychronized overdrive at the moment? This story has just been filed at Annanova http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_496864.html?menu= > *American MTV to show Ozzy Osbourne 'sitcom'* > Ozzy Osbourne and his family are to be the subject of a TV sitcom. > MTV will show The Osbournes weekly in the US from March 5. > The series is described as "The Cosby Show in Hell." > MTV has billed it as a "situation reality show" which revolves > around the home life of the heavy metal star. > The show follows the day-to-day life of Ozzy, his wife Sharon, > 17-year-old daughter Kelly and 16-year-old son Jack. > The family were filmed at their home in southern California > over the course of six months. > Series highlights include Ozzy attempting to give advice to > daughter Kelly on safe sex. > The Osbournes also move home in one episode, which finds > Ozzy packing boxes marked "dead things." > Another scene has Sharon saying how living in between > Pat Boone and Meatloaf was "sort of like a Satan sandwich." >end All the best PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:48:53 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: (njc)Some alternate theories for Bush's facial abrasions on the BBC today they qoted him as saying he had some strong opinions but that he didn't agree with them! Catherine McKay wrote: > --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/16/02 10:09:32 PM, > > BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: > > > > << In any case, I'm happy to hear of other theories. > > >> > > > > Duh! > > > > Earth and the entire JMDL to Walt! > > > > Your president is on something smuggled in. > > > > XO, > > > > --Bob > > ... and drooling... > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:55:47 +0000 From: colin Subject: appalled NJC It is most unfortunate that the USA has decided to act like the governments it abhors in regard to the Taleban POW's. This will not help to change the attitudes of those who despise America. It will only create more resentment and more pain for the USA. Working a 'do as we say, not as we do' policy will only bring more grief. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 03:05:11 -0800 From: "Steven & Babara Hirahara" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #28 NJC I think this is a genetic thing. When Papa Bush went to Japan and hurled his sushi all over the place we replaced the word "hurled" for the word "bush." (ie: Wow did I bush last night after eating some old pizza.)> Love & Peace, Barbara Hirahara > > Pretzelgate: What Really Happened? > > > David Turnley, AlterNet > > > January 14, 2002 > > > > > > Last weekend President Bush was reported to have choked on a pretzel, > > passed > > > out ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:36:14 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: appalled NJC What is this in reference to? Reuben colin writes: > It is most unfortunate that the USA has decided to act like the governments it abhors in regard to the Taleban POW's. This will not help to change the attitudes of those who despise America. It will only create more resentment and more pain for the USA. Working a > 'do as we say, not as we do' policy will only bring more grief. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:43:40 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: the good old days (njc) Mr. Roger Lucey hi i recently picked up a retrospective collection by one of our local musicians, roger lucey, who recently re-entered the music business as a result of the changes to our politiccs. he had previously left the business, as he considered it better to not perform at all, than to perform under restriction. the album contained the text of a letter concerning the banning of one of his earlier albums: "The Road is Much Longer" I just thought it may be of interest so i have reproduced it below: Dear Mr. Lucey PUBLICATIONS ACT, 1974 : GRAMOPHONE RECORD : THE ROAD IS MUCH LONGER In reply to your letter of 6 October 1982 I have to inform you that the committes' reasons for declaring the above-mentioned gramophone record is undesirable within the meaning of section 47(2)(e) of the above mentioned Act and that, subject to confirmation by the Publications Appeal Board under section 9(5), possesion thereof shall be prohibited under section 9(3) of the said act, were as follows: "Although the record is not very clear and the words of the songs are often drowned by the music so that it is not possible to hear clearly, the committee is of the opinion that seven of the eleven songs are harmless. They are Windy Days, The Road Is Much Longer, Christmas Song, Treading Carefully, Pay Me The Dues On My Bottles, I Dont Want Your Guillotine, and No Change. The other four are definitely dangerous for the safety of the State and create a climate of protest against the Police and the present order of the state. The song Crossroads with its theme that the authorities "dont give a damn about families", and that the homes of 20 000 people will be bulldozed builds up a climate against the authorities. The song Lungile Tabalaza takes this further and is extremely dangerous to the State. It contains a serious accusation against the police. It creates the impression of violence and torture where the police force people to speak. This led to the death of Tabalaza, although it is stated in the words of the song that some say it was murder and others that it was suicide. It is, however, a song which definitely cannot be approved. The song You Only Need Say Nothing is equally dangerous in that the Police are again shown in a very bad light. A climate of grievances and protest is being built up, and especially as the words are accompanied with the beat of African rhythm to enhance the impact of the words, the song can incite peopl towards insurgency and violence which can be dangerous for the safet of the state. The song Yhabane contains a reference to Steve Biko and his death as "one of many". on the basis of all this the committee is of the opinion that the record should be banned and that its possession should be prohibited. Yours faithfully ********************** Roger Lucey's comments on the album sleeve: This letter gives an idea of the context in which "The Road" was recorded: PW Botha was Prime Minister, Jimmy Kruger was the Minister of Police, and bannings and restrictions were the order of the day. Dave Marks recalls,: "Our association with the Wits University Free Peoples Concerts had attracted attention of the security police/ We were visited by a kaptein (captain) who waved a few Rand Daily Mail (local newspaper) photos at us - blacks and whites dancing together - what were we trying to do? Incite the country to insuregency? the kaptein wrned us that we had better be careful or we were headed for trouble. And now I had this long-haired durbanite (people living in durban - my home town - generally regarded as subversives) living among the academic rads (radicals) at Crown Mines, pestering me to cut an album about how the police throw dissidents from buildings and bulldoze people's homes. Until then such sentimemnts had been restricted to folk clubs and private homes. And even then the walls had ears. Just how far could a small back-yard record company go?' The album was banned for possession in 1982. ******************** ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:01:54 +0000 From: "vincenzo mancini" Subject: JM tuning table -SJC- / Berlin Hi! I'm an Italian lurker on the Joni-only Digest. I’m sorry for the poor Joni content yet I would like this message to be overspread... About ten days ago I sent (off-list) a mail to Susan McNamara at trying to attach a tuning table (that’s my Joni content) I elaborated concerning our lady of the tunings... asking her kind and authoritative assistance for this table to be shared and also in view of the fact that it surely has to be integrated and amended... Yet, I’m afraid I should have better "announced myself" via the jmdl... in order to avoid possible deletion of my message... or maybe she merely did not have the time to reply... Sorry for having caused any possible trouble to Susan and for having bored you with my stories... I would be glad to forward the table to anyone of us who does not own the Roland VG-8 wizardry... please write me off-list always citing "JM tuning table" as a subject, in order to avoid precautionary deletions... Hoping this little contribution of mine will be of some help to somebody... How to thank you all out there for your care and passion? Let us dedicate, not only in these days, our deepest and most heartfelt thoughts to Mr. Wally Breese!!!!!!!! Envy those ones who knew him! What a beautiful person he must have been! I’m going to Berlin next week (24 to 31). Is there any "Berliner" among us? A big hug! Ciao, Vincenzo "...may your skies be blue, and your love blessed..." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:36:19 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Balloon lady/John Kelly NJC Actually no, it didnt pop and It was a HUGE balloon. It was about 4 feet tall, suspended in air. It was quite an event I must say eventhough the music wasnt as good as I had thought it would be. Speaking of John Kelly, a person I work with at Juilliard used to work alongside him years ago when he was doing a tour of Europe. She promised to let me borrow a tape of the performance, so I am very excited about that. Blair > > > 6. Watching a Woman Play a Balloon with a Vibrator > >And did the balloon ever pop? > >atb, > >Debra Shea _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:44:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Dutch Treats Hey John, Don't beat yourself up over those musicians! I've always thought "Radar Love" was awesome. Plus, how about Focus? They were Dutch, right? "Hocus Pocus" is one of my all-time rock faves. How many classic rock songs feature yodeling, fer God's sake? Bob NP: Days of the New, "Shelf In The Room" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:18:08 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NAMM et al (NJC) I bet I would,BOB. I bet I would. Bree > > >In a message dated 1/16/02 6:53:51 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > ><< LUGE.....who but you.. would ever take notice of this word. >> > >You'd be surprised, Bree. You'd be very surprised. > >XO, > > --Bob _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:20:53 -0600 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: Hey Joe! Where you goin' with that free CD in your hand... (NJC) Catherine admitted: <> Pukey? What are you *saying,* woman?!? I have the album *and* the movie! Cindy, who isn't even the least bit ashamed of coming out of the Terry Jacks Fanclub closet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:50:36 +0100 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Re: NJC Dutch Treats Oops, forgot about Focus. Jan Akkerman has always been one of my guitar heroes. Still is. And yes, Radar Love is a fine rock song and the Golden Earring is an awesome live band (once ditched as the pre-show band by The Who in the seventies, because they were totally outplaying Townsend & partners). Holland is a music loving country in many ways. Only problem is that the really shitty Dutch stuff seems to find its way abroad. - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Hey John, > > Don't beat yourself up over those musicians! I've always thought "Radar Love" was awesome. Plus, how about Focus? They were Dutch, right? "Hocus Pocus" is one of my all-time rock faves. How many classic rock songs feature yodeling, fer God's sake? > > Bob > > NP: Days of the New, "Shelf In The Room" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:47:19 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Canadians (NJC) Dutch John wrote: >P.S. I once was seriously wondering why it was that my most favourite >'English-language' artists came (originally) from Canada - and why I loved >this underproduced, almost 'woody' style of playing so much: The Band, Robbie >Robertson, Kate & Anna McGarricle, Bruce Cockburn, Neil Young, Joni, Gorden >Lightfoot, (very) early Bryan Adams, Sarah McLachlan, Loreena McKennitt - and >currently Sarah Harmer. I'd vote to add Stan Rogers, James Keelaghan and Aengus Finnan to that list. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:49:23 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Kate's World Tour (NJC) A few days after her show in NYC Kate is playing in Anaheim,CA (2/16), for you west coasters... - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:31:19 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: jonatha brooke NJC hello all, just a little delurking for some jonatha info. take care band Jan. 30, 2002 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore Jan. 31, 2002 San Diego, CA Belly Up Tavern Feb. 1, 2002 San Juan Capistrano, CA The Coach House Feb. 2, 2002 Los Angeles, CA The Roxy Feb. 13, 2002 Alexandria, VA The Birchmere Feb. 14, 2002 New York, NY Irving Plaza (New Date - Changed from the 12th) Feb. 15, 2002 Amagansett, NY Stephen Talkhouse Feb. 16, 2002 Philadelphia, PA The Keswick Theatre March 1, 2002 Aarhus, Denmark Voxhall March 2, 2002 Odenses, Denmark Rytmeposten March 3, 2002 Copenhagen, Denmark Vega copyright 2001 jonathabrooke.com. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:32:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: RE: james last (njc) Doing a little more research about James Last, it's a pretty interesting story. Like Joni, he started with piano lessons at an early age (5). Although he ultimately descended into the realm of dance-cheese, he was a jazz bassist in his teens and voted as best in the country for three years running (1950-52). He put out his first record, "Non-Stop Dancing" in 1965. 50,000,000 records later, he's second only to Elvis in terms of records sold. Still, after hearing this tape from 1974, I was glad to say that I hadn't heard of him! :~) Bob NP: Days of the New, "Cling" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:45:49 GMT From: "Kate" Subject: Re: NYC gig at the Living Room !!!!! njc YES! What a great idea Rose!!!! RoseMJoy@aol.com writes: > Well, feckin get out here and book a gig at the Living Room following Kate & > Jeff for the same night. Wouldn't that be something ;~) > > love, rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:32:12 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Puzzled over a review... Hi folks, I usually read the "articles that appeared this day in history" or "articles that have just been added to our archive" thingies that begin most of the digests, at least when my web cruiser isn't sputtering or broken, and so I just read Stephen Holden's (Rolling Stone) review of HoSL from 1976. http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/760115rs.cfm Wow. For the first 2/3 of the article, I thought, "Gosh, this guy really gets it, he really listened to the album and thought about the words, he caught the subtle ambiguities and ambivalence displayed in the lyrics, etc." But how on earth did he come to the conclusion that the melodies were boring, minimal, nonexistent, unimaginative, etc.? Anybody else feel that way? I didn't at the time, and I don't now, but maybe someone can explain why he had that reaction, or maybe only he can. At least his prediction that Joni should move further into the jazz world came out true. warm greetings to all, walt, still struggling to type, on new medication for the neuropathy (pray for me that it works, especially now that I have a piano at my disposal!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:42:25 EST From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com Subject: Miles of Aisles Hi all. Out of lurkdom here and making an inquiry as to whether or not there is a video tape of Miles of Aisles and if so, how do I go about getting one from the list. I have a couple of new co-workers that are now being subjected to Joni at work, thanks to my control of the CD player and it came up today in conversation as to how awesome it would be to see that on video. Any and all help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Joe ( in Rhode Island ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:52:17 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles Hiya Corvette Joe!! As far as I know, there's not any MOA video or footage. The closest thing I know of is some video of her & the LA Express onstage at the Victoria Theatre in London, April '74. They do 4 or 5 songs, best I can recall. The footage is a part of the video that also contains her 1970 BBC special "Pink Dress" concert(with emphasis on "special") and the 1988 Whistle Test Extra. Great to hear from you - don't be a stranger! Bob NP: Dead Kennedys, "Stealing People's Mail" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:55:17 EST From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles Thank you Bob. I didn't think that I had heard of one, but it was worth asking on the JMDL as we all know, it's all there if there is anything to know about our lady. Thanks again. Take care of yourself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:57:50 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles Like I say, I'd love to be wrong. Warren, did you have a movie camera there with you in Durham when you saw her (March 24, 1974)? Step up with that footage! :~) Bob NP: Ani, "Fuel" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:58:25 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc?) NAM????? Darice wrote: "I am begging all of you to refrain from posting about NAMM and this weekend's get-togethers..." Please, Darice, *anybody*: what or who is NAMM? Sounds like fun, but I can't tell via inference whether it's a concert, a get-together like the Northeast Jonifest, or something unrelated to Joni in particular, or what? Thanks, Walt (first to admit he's out of it...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:10:59 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (njc?) NAM????? Hi Walt, NAMM is the National Assoc. of Music Merchandisers annual 3 day convention which is held in SoCal in January each year. It is really a fantastic experience to go to it. It's usually impossible to get passes to it unless you are a member (have a music-related business, are an artist, etc.) but oour Mr. Paz manages to get a few passes for some of us each year. Many of the manufacturers (like Taylor Guitar) have rooms set up with incredible musicians playing during the day. Kate Bennett played at Taylor last year and may again this year. All over the convention center you can see famous musicians milling about trying out guitars and stuff. It's like the Disneyland of the music world. At night there are many incredible private parties with all the top artists playing. Paz has also finagled us into a few of those ;-) It's becoming a yearly event for some of the West Coast jmdlers to get together for NAMM weekend. Maybe you can join us next year! Kakki > Please, Darice, *anybody*: what or who is NAMM? > > Sounds like fun, but I can't tell via inference whether it's a concert, a > get-together like the Northeast Jonifest, or something unrelated to Joni in > particular, or what? > > Thanks, > > Walt (first to admit he's out of it...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:33:31 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc?) NAM????? Kakki, Thanks so much for explaining it [i.e., NAMM] to me. With all the joking and nodding and winking going on, and references to parties, I was beginning to wonder whether it was a real thing or a joke among the jmdlers that I was too new to understand. But I learned as a teacher never to be afraid to just say "What the hell are you talking about?!" Thanks again, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:51:27 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Canadians (NJC) and Brei's Canadian sweetie writes: and Brei and I will add Garnet Rogers who we saw together recently. Another Canadian treasure, he is Stan Roger's younger brother. They used to tour together. I think we have his whole collection now... an amazing and gifted man. Incredible show...two straight hours without a single break and he might even do a request as long as it isn't "feelings" ;-) the magswoman xoxox - --- Steve Dulson wrote: > Dutch John wrote: > > >P.S. I once was seriously wondering why it was that my most > favourite > >'English-language' artists came (originally) from Canada - and why I > loved > >this underproduced, almost 'woody' style of playing so much: The > Band, Robbie > >Robertson, Kate & Anna McGarricle, Bruce Cockburn, Neil Young, Joni, > Gorden > >Lightfoot, (very) early Bryan Adams, Sarah McLachlan, Loreena > McKennitt - and > >currently Sarah Harmer. > > I'd vote to add Stan Rogers, James Keelaghan and Aengus Finnan to > that list. > -- > ######################################################## > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com > "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com > "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ===== it's a miracle! Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:30:56 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: natalie merchant njc I've recently borrowed the Natalie Merchant cd 'Motherland' off a colleague at work, it's an amazing album. I just had to burn a copy and i am playing it constantly. It really is a brilliant cd, anyone out there into Natalie who can recommend other stuff of hers either solo or with The Ten Thousand Maniacs? What a superb voice! Joe Farrell. NP: Motherland Natalie Merchant. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:24:02 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: More Garden Jonifest 2002 Logo Contest Information A few things...... 1) No copyrighted pictures/drawings can be used. They must be original. 2) It should be kept simple for what I will be using it for. (Top secret!) 3) It should include the words Northeast Back to the Garden Jonifest 2002. Not neccessarily in that order. 4) Prize: My undying gratitude, the ENORMOUS prestige of having your logo used for (TOP SECRET!!) things, and the rights to borrow Mr. Paz's slinky halter top and Pink Glitter high heels for one night on the town. I will also try to think of some wonderful prize as well if I can. Thanks!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:53:36 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW(njc) I'm afraid the logic &/or humor of this escapes me: The Talibahn was abusive of women. So, to protest that, men are supposed to drink beer and run after their naked female coworkers.....sounds just as sexist.... RR Ron Greer wrote: > hi > > now heres a chaim mail i can live with :-) > > >>>Protest on Friday > > The Leaders of the world are asking for your support to combat terrorism and we're encouraging to demonstrate against the Taliban this Friday at 15:00 hours. > > It is a well-known fact that the Taliban are against alcohol consumption and think it is sinful to look at a naked woman. > > Therefore, at 15:00 this Friday, all women should run naked through the office while men chase them with a beer in their hands. This is the best way to show our disgust for the Taliban and will hopefully help us in detecting the terrorists among us (anybody who doesn't do as proposed will be deemed a terrorist and denounced to the World). > > Your efforts are much appreciated in the name of a free, democratic world. > > Thank you.<<< > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:58:25 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: appalled NJC I couldn't agree more. If we do not take the high road, and use proper protocol, we are simply lowering ourselves to the standards of the other thugs. Ashcroft was quoted as saying he was not in the least bit interested in how the "POW's" were being treated. Sadly, there are plenty of Americans who feel the same, so our wild west administration continues to get high approval whilst shredding the constitution as quickly and efficiently as they possibly can. These people are not patriotic, they are traitors and should be removed from office and tried for treason. RR colin wrote: > It is most unfortunate that the USA has decided to act like the governments it abhors in regard to the Taleban POW's. This will not help to change the attitudes of those who despise America. It will only create more resentment and more pain for the USA. Working a > 'do as we say, not as we do' policy will only bring more grief. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:23:27 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: lighter fare NJC Enough of the politics already! How about a little lighter fare? ENLIGHTENED PERSPECTIVE By: Andy Rooney I've learned ... That the best classroom in the world is at the feet of an elderly person. I've learned ... That when you're in love, it shows. I've learned ... That just one person saying to me, "You've made my day!" makes my day. I've learned ... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. I've learned ... That being kind is more important than being right. I've learned ... That you should never say no to a gift from a child. I've learned ... That I can always pray for someone when I don't have the strength to help him in some other way. I've learned ... That no matter how serious your life requires you to be, everyone needs a friend to act goofy with. I've learned ... That sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold and a heart to understand. I've learned ... That simple walks with my father around the block on summer nights when I was a child did wonders for me as an adult. I've learned ... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. I've learned ... That we should be glad God doesn't give us everything we ask for. I've learned ... That money doesn't buy class. I've learned ... That it's those small daily happenings that make life so spectacular. I've learned ... That under everyone's hard shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved. I've learned ... That the Lord didn't do it all in one day. What makes me think I can? I've learned ... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts. I've learned ... That when you plan to get even with someone, you are only letting that person continue to hurt you. I've learned ... That love, not time, heals all wounds. I've learned ... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned ... That everyone you meet deserves to be greeted with a smile. I've learned ... That there's nothing sweeter than sleeping with your babies and feeling their breath on your cheeks. I've learned ... That no one is perfect until you fall in love with them. I've learned ... That life is tough, but I'm tougher. I've learned ... That opportunities are never lost; someone will take the ones you miss. I've learned ... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned ... That I wish I could have told my Dad that I love him one more time before he passed away. I've learned ... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. I've learned ... That a smile is an inexpensive way to improve your looks. I've learned ... That I can't choose how I feel, but I can choose what I do about it. I've learned ... That when your newly born grandchild holds your little finger in his little fist, that you're hooked for life. I've learned ... That everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it. I've learned ... That it is best to give advice in only two circumstances; when it is requested and when it is a life threatening situation. I've learned ... That the less time I have to work with, the more things I get done. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:51:18 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: HOSL teaser on NPR Anyone else hear the opening strains of Joni's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" on NPR's "All Things Considered" today? And if so, were you as disappointed as I was that they didn't play the whole song? :-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:10:00 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Olympicesque I was rummaging through my old record collection and was reminded of how you could really spend time looking at and see detail in 12" album covers. Those were the daze. Does anyone know if/who Joni is impersonating on the cover of DJRD? The moustachioed chap is holding (behind the right hand) what seems to be a medal - Olympicesque. Just wondering if there was any significance in this. And while we're on the subject - the boy on the right? I stole that from ... you know. NP - That scratchy 12" rock n roll ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:32:00 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc?) NAM????? In a message dated 1/17/02 3:59:33 PM, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: << what or who is NAMM? >> That stands for North American Merry Men, Walt. You don't want to know what goes on at their little get-togethers. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:37:44 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc?) NAM????? In a message dated 1/17/02 4:35:55 PM, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: << I was beginning to wonder whether it was a real thing or a joke among the jmdlers that I was too new to understand. >> Hey, Walt! You stop being new the day you roll your eyes and chuckle whenever someone asks what SIQUOMB means! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:43:29 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: More Garden Jonifest 2002 Logo Contest Information- NJC In a message dated 1/17/02 5:25:46 PM, AsharaProducLLC@aol.com writes: << A few things...... >> Hi, Ashara! Is it OK to use gay porn in our design ideas? XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:47:16 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW(njc) In a message dated 1/17/02 5:52:51 PM, guitarzan@saber.net writes: << The Talibahn was abusive of women. So, to protest that, men are supposed to drink beer and run after their naked female coworkers.....sounds just as sexist.... >> Yes, but the beauty of it all is -- no burkas! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:09:37 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: appalled NJC This was one of the topics of Question Time on TV tonight(BBC) and has been raguing in the news this wekk. The feeling is one os dismay that the USA is behaving in this way. As has been pointed out, this will only exacerbate the probelmes, produce more hatred towards the USA and produce more martyrs and make American citizens even more unsafe. America has long been looked up to as a country to hold up human rights, fair treatment,good law(okay if you forget about CP) and the ' good protector'. It now appeares to be throwing this all away and beahving just like any other thug. This is a sad sad time for us all, not to mention dangerous. Some here in the UK have pointed out the evil committed by thses people(well actually they all died in theose planes) so why should we care what happens to these POW's. That is not the popint. the point is sticking to our Principles regardless. If we don't, why bothetr having principles? In the future, when other coutries take American prisoners, America will kot be able to bargain and demand that the Geneve convention is followed. It has thrown all that away. Taking these POW's to Cuba, a military court, the refusl to call them POW's has dragged America down into the gutter.alomng with all these 'bad countries'. Randy Remote wrote: > I couldn't agree more. If we do not take the high road, and use > proper protocol, we are simply lowering ourselves to the standards > of the other thugs. Ashcroft was quoted as saying he was not in the > least bit interested in how the "POW's" were being treated. Sadly, > there are plenty of Americans who feel the same, so our wild west > administration continues to get high approval whilst shredding the > constitution as quickly and efficiently as they possibly can. These > people are not patriotic, they are traitors and should be removed > from office and tried for treason. > RR > > colin wrote: > > > It is most unfortunate that the USA has decided to act like the governments it abhors in regard to the Taleban POW's. This will not help to change the attitudes of those who despise America. It will only create more resentment and more pain for the USA. Working a > > 'do as we say, not as we do' policy will only bring more grief. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:13:33 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: nice surprise njc Watching a silly flick called After Hours. Watching it basically for escapism and Griffin Dunne. The odd girl turned on the radio. "chelsea morning" probably old news here. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:37:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: HOSL teaser on NPR YES!! > Anyone else hear the opening strains of Joni's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" on > NPR's "All Things Considered" today? And if so, were you as disappointed > as I was that they didn't play the whole song? :-) > > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:45:18 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (njc?) NAM????? Walt, Sorry if if came off like nodding and winking! Sometimes people just post in a hurry and shorthand with acronyms and stuff and don't realize how it may read to others. Good you asked! Kakki, still laughing over the LOTR "Ladies of the Roses" ;-) > Thanks so much for explaining it [i.e., NAMM] to me. With all the joking and > nodding and winking going on, and references to parties, I was beginning to > wonder whether it was a real thing or a joke among the jmdlers that I was too > new to understand. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:52:02 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@SNET.Net Subject: In The Bedroom (NJC) Hi all - Has anyone else seen the movie In The Bedroom yet? It is a very good drama. I have not read anything by Andre Dubus but after seeing this movie I am tempted to. Can anyone recommend any of the books or short stories that he has written? Amazon lists many but I am not sure which to choose. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:03:26 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: appalled NJC If only the US media was willing to ask these questions. It's all just wave the flag and cheer and have another beer. colin wrote: > This was one of the topics of Question Time on TV tonight(BBC) and has been raguing in the news this wekk. The feeling is one os dismay that the USA is behaving in this way. As has been pointed out, this will only exacerbate the probelmes, produce more hatred towards > the USA and produce more martyrs and make American citizens even more unsafe. > America has long been looked up to as a country to hold up human rights, fair treatment,good law(okay if you forget about CP) and the ' good protector'. It now appeares to be throwing this all away and beahving just like any other thug. This is a sad sad time for us > all, not to mention dangerous. > Some here in the UK have pointed out the evil committed by thses people(well actually they all died in theose planes) so why should we care what happens to these POW's. That is not the popint. the point is sticking to our Principles regardless. If we don't, why bothetr > having principles? In the future, when other coutries take American prisoners, America will kot be able to bargain and demand that the Geneve convention is followed. It has thrown all that away. Taking these POW's to Cuba, a military court, the refusl to call them > POW's has dragged America down into the gutter.alomng with all these 'bad countries'. > > Randy Remote wrote: > > > I couldn't agree more. If we do not take the high road, and use > > proper protocol, we are simply lowering ourselves to the standards > > of the other thugs. Ashcroft was quoted as saying he was not in the > > least bit interested in how the "POW's" were being treated. Sadly, > > there are plenty of Americans who feel the same, so our wild west > > administration continues to get high approval whilst shredding the > > constitution as quickly and efficiently as they possibly can. These > > people are not patriotic, they are traitors and should be removed > > from office and tried for treason. > > RR > > > > colin wrote: > > > > > It is most unfortunate that the USA has decided to act like the governments it abhors in regard to the Taleban POW's. This will not help to change the attitudes of those who despise America. It will only create more resentment and more pain for the USA. Working a > > > 'do as we say, not as we do' policy will only bring more grief. > > -- > bw > colin > DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. > > colin@tantra-apso.com > http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:42:43 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: appalled NJC - --- colin wrote: > America has long been looked up to as a country to > hold up human rights, fair treatment,good law(okay > if you forget about CP) and the ' good protector'. > It now appeares to be throwing this all away and > beahving just like any other thug. This is a sad sad > time for us > all, not to mention dangerous. > Some here in the UK have pointed out the evil > committed by thses people(well actually they all > died in theose planes) so why should we care what > happens to these POW's. That is not the popint. the > point is sticking to our Principles regardless. If > we don't, why bothetr > having principles? In the future, when other > coutries take American prisoners, America will kot > be able to bargain and demand that the Geneve > convention is followed. It has thrown all that away. > Taking these POW's to Cuba, a military court, the > refusl to call them > POW's has dragged America down into the > gutter.alomng with all these 'bad countries'. Very sad. And completely without sense. ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:53:54 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Hey Joe! Where you goin' with that free CD in your hand... (NJC) Arrggghh! There's a *movie*?!? God help us all. (You get points for bravery, I'll grant you that.) - --- cvickery@danielrealty.com wrote: > > Catherine admitted: > < home of Terry > Jacks (Seasons in the sun - the pukey version in > English.)>> > > Pukey? What are you *saying,* woman?!? > I have the album *and* the movie! > > Cindy, who isn't even the least bit ashamed of > coming out of the > Terry Jacks Fanclub closet > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:52:18 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Olympicesque - --- William Waddell wrote: > I was rummaging through my old record collection and > was reminded of how you > could really spend time looking at and see detail in > 12" album covers. You're darn right. CD covers seem to still be following the LP model but in a small format and it just doesn't work - you can't see a thing, and just try reading the lyrics when you're middle-aged, horribly near-sighted and now needing bifocals and just finding out you're starting to develop a cataract. And it's on my "good" eye too, the left one which is still horribly bad, but not nearly as bad as the right. Irony strikes again. >Those > were the daze. Does anyone know if/who Joni is > impersonating on the cover of > DJRD? I think it's a character she created called Art Nouveau (ha ha). >And while we're on the subject - the boy on > the right? Good question. I asked that once before but never got an answer - let's hope you have better luck than I! I examined that picture very carefully to try to find out if maybe it was Joni in some other disguise, but I just couldn't see it (given that every other person on the cover is Joni, I figured maybe the boy was too, but apparently not.) ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:53:35 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: All My Bags Are Packed (NJC) All My bags are packed I'm ready to go I'm standing here outside my door drinking tequila and wishing I was already there.... Have a great weekend all. I am off to the wild wild west to party and... gawd knows what??? Can't wait to see the west coast clan and knock back a few and play music till we bleed. Hope you all have a nice weekend too. I will check in from "Donny Osmond Central", but please don't tell Darice... Shhhhhhhhhhh, Paz ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #29 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?