From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #14 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 014 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni in fiction again & a suggestion for a new section onthe JMDL site [colin ] Re: books and movies njc [colin ] Re: Bush Fires NJC [colin ] Re: Bush Fires NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: NJC (Black Velvet) [Lori in MD ] Re: Bush Fires NJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Bush Fires NJC [colin ] my first time..... [colin ] Boxing Day NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Jericho and Last Time I Saw Richard... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] (njc) Gay Fannie [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: (njc) Gay Fannie ["mack watson-bush" ] general knowledge category njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) [Vince Lavieri ] A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] books and movies njc ["kerry" ] Re: A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: YOU'RE NOT LISTENING... [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Bush Fires NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Come feck me pumps NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: The World According To... (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: (njc) Gay Fannie ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Happy 2002 njc ["Robert Holliston" ] Re: (njc) Gay Fannie ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: the top ten joni parodies I never wrote (NJC) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] SoCal JMDLer party ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:30:10 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Joni in fiction again & a suggestion for a new section onthe JMDL site Nope1 although what you quote is true too. she did much more recently. I believe she was doing a gig with Bob Dylan and she was on first and the audience just yakked all the way thru so she got mad. I would have too. mike pritchard wrote: > Bree said: > >> Bob and everyone, has this guy got his facts mixed up? I can't imagine > Joni lecturing to her fans about paying closer attention to her lyrics. It > doesn't ring true.<< > > Colin replied > > >>it is true. Don't know the concert or when but she did tell her audience off > for not listening.<< > > mike now says > > Perhaps this is what Colin is referring to: > > The transcript is taken from Murray Lerner's film "Message to Love - The Isle > of Wight Music Festival, August 26-30 1970. > > Joni has just finished doing Woodstock. And a stoned, bearded man walks > onstage and tries to make an announcement. (He claims to have been paid by the > promoter to paint the fence invisible) He is hustled off by security and the > crowd boos, probably a reaction against the security but the booing continues > while Joni plays a long, interrupted intro to 'My Old Man' on the piano. Close > up shots reveal the tension in her face and body. She tries to keep the music > going but is unable to and stops playing. She addresses the crowd. > > "Listen a minute, will ya? WILL YA LISTEN A MINUTE! Now listen. A lot of > people who get up and sing . I know it's fun, you know, it's a lot of fun, > it's fun for me, I get my feelings off through my music but listen, you've got > your life wrapped up in it and it's very difficult to come up here and lay > something down when people. it's like, last Sunday I went to a Hopi ceremonial > dance in the desert and there were a lot of people there and there were > tourists and there were tourists who were getting into it like Indians and > Indians who were getting into it like tourists. And I think that you're acting > like tourists, man, give us some respect". (applause). Cut to the rant from > the intruder, cut back to Big Yellow Taxi on guitar. end of story. > > mike in bcn - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:42:14 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Tr: Religion 101, NJC Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > > RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES OF THE WORLD IN A NUTSHELL > > > > > > > > > > Catholicism: if shit happens, I deserve it. > > > > > Protestantism: shit won't happen if I work harder. > > > > > Judaism: why does this shit always happen to me? > > > > > Buddhism: when shit happens, is it really shit? > i know this is upposed to be a joke but these first 4 really do sum them up. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:45:21 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: books and movies njc > Ya know Kerry, it's funny that you mention it ... lately I've been considering buying the Subaru Legacy/Outback or the new Mazda Protege wagon. Eeek! > Lori-if you buy one of those buig things people night start to think you are a dyke...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:47:14 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Bush Fires NJC Boxing day is the day after Xmas-also a holiday here in the uK and in Oz and probably NZ and several other places in the world. I can't remember the reason but has something to do with 'boxing' gifts I think. Both Xmas day and Boxibng day are official holidays as is New Years Day. mack watson-bush wrote: > John. Not familiar with you but glad that you are well. I was curious > about "boxing day". what is that? > > Mack > > > > My brother and his wife were evacuated from their home in the lower > > Mountains on Boxing Day and came within a whisker of losing their > > house. They have lived in this area for nearly 30 years and this was > > their worst fire experience  all their garden, fences etc. burnt but > > the house saved! > > > > The weather has been so hot and dry since before Christmas  but last > > Sunday night we had a very heavy fall of rain that has relieved the > > situation here quite a bit. For the moment anyway! Serious fires are > > still burning on the South Coast however. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts though guys. Theyre really appreciated. > > > > John. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:45:53 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Bush Fires NJC thanks Colin. What is Oz? And what is a "boxing" gift? Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: NJC (Black Velvet) Donna wrote: > No Joni content on this, but i just heard a song on the radio that is a > MUST HAVE and i was wondering if anyone had any info. on a song > called "Black Velvet" by Lanna Miles? I'm not sure about the spelling > of that name. Anyone ever heard it, if so know the correct name/album > i could find it on? Donna honey, where ya been? That was a big hit in 1989, especially around San Antonio. The album is Alannah Myles by the singer of the same name, and she wrote the song as well. Original Release Date: March 28, 1989 on Wea/Atlantic. It's available online. Lyrics can be found here, among other places: http://www.geocities.com/iona81/alannahmylesblackvelvet.html See you at JoniFest?? : ) Lori ~ Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:52:26 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: Bush Fires NJC Didn't Boxing Day originate in England back in the day when those "to the manor born" would box up their Christmas leftovers and distribute them amongst the poor folks who worked the land? It seems I recall something about that. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:57:00 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Bush Fires NJC Oz is Ozzie for Australia. 'boxing' gifts means putting gifts in boxes and wrapping. But as i said i may be wrong on that but i know it has soemthing to do with that..... mack watson-bush wrote: > thanks Colin. What is Oz? And what is a "boxing" gift? > Mack - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:59:55 +0000 From: colin Subject: my first time..... .....or so i thought was in 1975 in Portsmouth, Hampshire, UK and i heard The Jungle Line on Radio Victory. loved it immeditaely, unusual for me as i normally have to listen sevral times to soemthing to know if i like it, and went out and bout THOSL. Later i started to buy all her other stuff. When i bought C&S and heard People's Parties, I realised i had studied the lyric in English Lit class the year before in OZ. We had an American English Lit teacher in Oz! - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:01:03 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Boxing Day NJC From http://www.snopes2.com/. The holiday's roots can be traced to Britain, where Boxing Day is also known as St. Stephen's Day. Reduced to the simplest essence, its origins are found in a long-ago practice of giving cash or durable goods to those of the lower classes. Gifts among equals were exchanged on or before Christmas Day, but beneficences to those less fortunate were bestowed the day after. Mark E's Travis In Shoreline Washington ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:35:13 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! Hi, all, I've always been curious about Bjork, and her new one had been discussed here several times lately, so I got Vespertine the other day. I've listened to it several times, and so far, um, I don't get it. It kinda reminds me (this is where I fear the flames) of Jane Siberry and/or Ricky Lee Jones *after* they'd kinda lost control of their stuff. I like a challenge -- hence my Joni-love -- but when I got RLJ's Ghostyhead, and when I got JS's When I Was a Boy, I said, "Oh-oh, someone's losing control." WIWAB at least had a few good songs, but "Sweet Incarnadine", which is a 7-minute abbreviation of a much longer improvisation, whoa, somebody get some reins. I used to *love* rlj and js, and I'd liked what I'd heard of Bjork in the past, but Vespertine almost puts me to sleep, and... I don't know, somehow Joni can experiment and get away with it (imho) but I don't think rlj and js and now Bjork have succeeded with too much freedom of structure. Another example is David Sylvan, who's out there, but still (last I checked -- Dead Bees on a Cake -- don't know how recent that is) under some structural control. Don't mean to trash other's taste -- please don't think that -- it's quite possible that I'm just not up to the challenges presented by these records, or they're just not to my taste. Nothing wrong with that. :-) hugs and away to a nap! (having a bad day with neuropathy, can barely sit up or open a bottle or can today) Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:42:28 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Jericho and Last Time I Saw Richard... Him Michael, I *love* your idea. More than 20 years ago, I managed to make up my own arrangements of Jericho (swoon) and TLTISR for the piano. I now have Jericho in the JM Anthology, and hope to reconstruct what I had 20+ years ago (or something like it), but I don't have the sheet music -- I need a starting point, or at least a cheat sheet -- for TLTISR. I'll be working on Jericho in the meantime, now that I have access to a piano again -- at least on my good days, I can play/noodle around on the piano for an hour or more. Not today -- hands hurt. Keep us all informed as to how the piano anthology thingy develops! warmly, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:49:29 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) Gay Fannie Bree wrote: <> I've heard through the grapevine that she is (I gotta friend who does makeup in the movies -- he actually gets to touch George Cloony *every day* at this writing (swoon) -- I don't know the working name of the movie), and he gets some great gossip. Anyhoo, I hope that was the answer you wanted, Bree. :-) Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:13:22 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! Big Walt wrote: Well, here in Florida we celebrate Bjorksing Day the day after Christmas. oops wrong thread :~D Like you said Big W., it is all a matter of taste. As my pal Jim Nabors once said "I like Ricky Lee, don't love her, but I like Ricky Lee", but as for Ms. Siberry...........I don't think she could sing her way out of a paper bag. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:14:59 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: (njc) Gay Fannie George clooney. Yuck. I don't get it. Now Rosemary, that is another story. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:22:33 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: general knowledge category njc Just wanted to warn those who might be interested. If you ever feel the need to use Nair, the hair remover, don't!!! I found some at my parents house and put it on my back. that shit stinks and burns. Damn. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:26:57 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: general knowledge category njc this might sound stupid but hey, you are my friends and where else to discuss this kind of stuff but with your friends. That last stupid post of mine, there have been previous ones and will surely be more (sorry), made me think of women and hair. I have noticed that american women shave their underarms and european women do not. I wonder why that is and where that started. rather unseemly to the delicate but those here don't seem the prissy type. thank goodness. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mack watson-bush" To: "joni" Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: general knowledge category njc > Just wanted to warn those who might be interested. If you ever feel the need > to use Nair, the hair remover, don't!!! I found some at my parents house and > put it on my back. that shit stinks and burns. Damn. > > mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:35:29 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) Ashara wrote: << I can only imagine what a terrible person this Jenny Fields is!! ;-) >> Quite the opposite, Ashara. Although I haven't read the book or seen the movie in 15 years or more, if I remember correctly, Jennie was Garp's mother. She was a nurse who decided in the 1940s that she wanted to be a mother, but not a wife, so she managed Garp's conception in a rather unique way -- she had sex with a dying WW II soldier in her care. Once Garp became old enough to go to school, she supported them by working as a nurse in an Exeter-like prep school, which gave Garp access to a better education than he would have had otherwise. Later on, when Garp was grown, I believe, she wrote a book which started a movement. (This is where the brain cells are most damaged because I can't remember the nature of the movement.) Anyway -- this, Ashara, is where the likeness to you gets so strong -- she established a home to which all kinds of people came to 'heal' -- sort of like an endless Jonifest! Please wear the Jennie Fields nurse uniform at Jonifest 2002, Ashara! XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:36:35 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) > Please wear the Jennie Fields nurse uniform at Jonifest 2002, Ashara! Bob. Ear to ear grin. I love ya. Yea, Ashara, please do. Very good summarization bob. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:38:50 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: great places to hang out njc That house on the beach, with the members of the JMDL, everywhere, would be an ideal place to be and hang out. also have also wanted to spend much time in the juke joint in the color purple. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:56:07 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: joni njc "you are so quick to condescend, my opinionated friend- Joni Does she ever stop teaching, giving? I pulled out TI to give it another chance too as I have not particularly enjoyed it. Her voice on this album is so sweet, so real, so there. I have stated before that when I give my love, I give it forever. Can't help it and it grows and grows forevermore afterwards. Suppose it is akin to a love affair, my affair with Joni Mitchell, for I love her more as the days pass. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:21:44 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > <> > > I can assure you that the makers of "A Beautiful Mind" never once considered this the goal of their film. > > Bob Bob, I am delurking to disagree with you and I feel badly about that - but Ron Howard has done sanitized versions of everything that he has ever done and A Beautiful Mind is an extreme example. Left out are gay encounters of which he had many, his child by another woman, his areests for solicitation in men's rooms which cost him his security clearance, among other things. And his bisexuality was used to indicate that he was schizophreniac, which he is, but not for that reason, and to leave that out is too cosmetically sweet for homophobia in the US government, It also implies that he was someone redeemed by the love a woman, which is very romantic, but not true in this case. The line from the producers was that the American public would not acceot Russell Crowe solicitng in mens rooms - although he has done that in an Australian movie in the early 90s. I believe that he only recently was deinstitutionalized. Anyway back into my hole. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:26:14 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) MG wrote >>Sadly, it was great acting within a highly sanitized version of Nash's life.<< I didn't know anything about Nash before the movie & I have little first hand experience with this disease...so this movie made me want to learn more... (thanks mary k for the link)...to me, it was eye opening to see that someone suffering from schizophrenia was as highly functional as Nash was...& as innovatively brilliant... >>>the true trials of maintaining a relationship when one partner suffers from a mental illness stayed unexplored.<<< absolutely...i can't imagine how difficult this must have been... >>>I'm still thinking a lot about art and genius and what makes some of us go tick..tock and others of us go ...ockt itck. <<< LOL...well put! i have pondered this for a long long time...Robin Williams was just on Bravo's Behind the Actor Studio & described his comedy as (& demonstrated) legalized insanity...his high school class voted him the funniest & least likely to succeed... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:53:09 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: books and movies njc >> Lori, wondering if she's becoming one of those older, suburban lesbians, >> in MD > Oh, Lori, now I suppose you'll tell us that you're trading in your Harley > for a station wagon! ;>) >Ya know Kerry, it's funny that you mention it ... lately I've been considering buying the Subaru Legacy/Outback or the new >Mazda Protege wagon. Eeek! That's not REALLY a station wagon (and doesn't Martina advertise for them?) I thought of you yesterday when I saw an old station wagon with a rainbow sticker on it!!! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:21:26 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: A Beautiful Mind, (NJC) I thought there were a few anachronisms in the dialogue (contemporary speech forms that weren't in use then). I thought the best Oscar shot would be for the costumes. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:24:19 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: YOU'RE NOT LISTENING... - --- "Aldridge, Phil" wrote: I got myself > some fish and chips then > turned round to see... Joni. I gave her a chip - > don't remember if I > offered or she asked. I still tell the "Joni ate my > chips" story to anyone > who'll listen - and you're the latest :o) Yeah, but Phil - did she eat with vinegar? Or catsup/ketchup/that red stuff? Details - we need details! ;) ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:32:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC - --- "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > Dear Friends, > > No Joni content on this, but i just heard a song on > the radio that is a MUST > HAVE and i was wondering if anyone had any info. on > a song called "Black > Velvet" by Lanna Miles? I'm not sure about the > spelling of that name. It's Alannah Myles and the song is indeed called "Black Velvet." It probably came out between 10-20 years ago. Another Canadian, eh. If the album it was on (I don't know much about her stuff, but I remember this song) isn't available anymore, I think they fairly recently came out with one of those "greatest hits" albums of her stuff (then again, you can download it off places like musiccity.com, but, if questioned, I'll deny having mentioned this and blame it all on the computer gremlin that has been haunting me lately!) ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:38:03 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bush Fires NJC Boxing Day is a stat holiday here in Canada too - I thought it was one everywhere! (But our Thanksgiving is on a Monday in October, and we only get one extra day off and I think the Americans get Thursday AND Friday, so they'd get a four-day weekend. I think the boxing part relates to giving alms to the poor around Christmas time. (The poor box). - --- colin wrote: > Boxing day is the day after Xmas-also a holiday here > in the uK and in Oz > and probably NZ and several other places in the > world. I can't remember the > reason but has something to do with 'boxing' gifts I > think. Both Xmas day > and Boxibng day are official holidays as is New > Years Day. > > mack watson-bush wrote: > > > John. Not familiar with you but glad that you are > well. I was curious > > about "boxing day". what is that? > > > > Mack > > > > > > My brother and his wife were evacuated from > their home in the lower > > > Mountains on Boxing Day and came within a > whisker of losing their > > > house. They have lived in this area for nearly > 30 years and this was > > > their worst fire experience  all their garden, > fences etc. burnt but > > > the house saved! > > > > > > The weather has been so hot and dry since before > Christmas  but last > > > Sunday night we had a very heavy fall of rain > that has relieved the > > > situation here quite a bit. For the moment > anyway! Serious fires are > > > still burning on the South Coast however. > > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts though guys. Theyre > really appreciated. > > > > > > John. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your free Australian email account at > http://www.start.com.au > > -- > bw > colin > DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver > 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap > 6000, Duo80. > > colin@tantra-apso.com > http://www.tantra-apso.com ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (njc)Ricky Lee and Jane Siberry and Bjork, oh my! - --- BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > I've always been curious about Bjork, and her new > one had been discussed here > several times lately, so I got Vespertine the other > day. I've listened to it > several times, and so far, um, I don't get it. It > kinda reminds me (this is > where I fear the flames) of Jane Siberry and/or > Ricky Lee Jones *after* > they'd kinda lost control of their stuff. > ... > I'd liked what I'd > heard of Bjork in the past, but Vespertine almost > puts me to sleep, and... I > don't know, somehow Joni can experiment and get away > with it (imho) but I > don't think rlj and js and now Bjork have succeeded > with too much freedom of > structure. Unfortunately I don't think I can do a very good job of explaining *why* I like Bjork or Jane Siberry, but I do, I do! I appreciate they wouldn't be everyone's cuppa tea - they're both kind of space cadets, but I think of their music as alternating between loud and exuberant (as in Bjork's "Army of me", a great song for angry women! not exuberant, but loud and kind of menacing!, or her version of "It's oh so quiet" (not sure if that's the right name, but her voice goes from a whisper to a shriek and I want to laugh every time I hear this); or as in Jane Siberry's "The Speckless Sky", probably one of the most joyous songs about just being alive that I've heard) (it's taking a heckuva long time to reach the last part of this sentence, isn't it - jeez, don't you hate that?) and meditative or trancelike, as in just about all of JS's "when I was a boy" and "Vespertine". You have to be in the right mood to listen to that kind of stuff and you have to kind of let it wash over you - otherwise, it could be quite annoying! ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:06:28 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Important Info: YOU MAY ALREADY WON!!!!!! (NJC) I don't normally forward anything I recieve in my inbox (especially to the lists I am a member of), but this I could not resist as I love the whole fecking concept. Please feel free to copy and pass on. Love Paz This could actually be a lot of fun... When you get ads in your phone or utility bill, include them with the payment. Let them throw it away. When you get those pre -approved letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and junk like that, most of them come with postage paid return envelopes, right? Well, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little envelopes! Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Or a pizza coupon to Citibank. If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their application back! If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them. You can send it back empty if you want to just to keep them guessing! Eventually, the banks and credit card companies will begin getting all their junk back in the mail. Let's let them know what it's like to get junk mail, and best of all THEY'RE paying for it! Twice! Let's help keep our postal service busy since they say e-mail is cutting into their business, and that's why they need to increase postage again! Send this to a friend or two or three...or fifty...!!! begin:vcard n:Stirling;Len tel;cell:985-502-8500 tel;fax:985-796-9149 tel;home:985-796-9101 tel;work:985-796-3866 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.stirlingfarm.com org:Stirling Farm adr:;;12158 Hay Hollow Road;Folsom;LA;70437;U.S.A. version:2.1 email;internet:lenstirling@earthlink.net x-mozilla-cpt:;21880 fn:Len end:vcard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:17:10 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) I have a feeling I might smoke a turd in purgatory for this one... Love Paz on 1/6/02 6:36 PM, Murphycopy@aol.com at Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Paz wrote: OH MY GAWD Mack! With Ashara playing Jenny Fields. Aghhhhhhhhhhh! > > Then Mack replied: Ashara would be perfect. What fun we would all have. I > can see it. I > > can dream, can't i? > > And I say: No need to dream it, Mack! Jonifest 2002 will be here before you > know it. > > Also, I think we should buy a Jennie Fields nurse uniform for Ashara to wear > at Jonifest. Why haven't we noticed this Jennie/Ashara connection until now? > Doh! > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:18:28 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: request for lyrics I wanna do this with you but LIVE and in person. Can I book a couple of hours with you in say August????? Love Paz on 1/7/02 1:06 AM, M.Russell@iaea.org at M.Russell@iaea.org wrote: > Lately, almost every time I sit down with an instrument something new > happens - melodies and chord progressions just come to me out of the blue - > and I've got so much stuff now that I'm having trouble keeping track of it > all! Unfortunately, I haven't had the same luck with words, so I'm > wondering if there are any poetic JMDLers out there who would be willing to > let me attempt to set their words to music. I can't promise that something > musical will happen, but I will try. > > If you are interested in collaborating with me, please reply privately to: > > marian@jmdl.com > > Marian > Vienna > > P.S. I realize this is NJC, but I'm leaving it off just in case there is a > poetic joni-only who might be interested. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:23:28 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Come feck me pumps NJC OH MY GAWD!!!!!! I HAVE to have some Betty Boop Slip-It-To-Me-Quick-Slippers!!!!!!!!! Before Mardi Gras if possible. If they don't come in a size 11 then the biggest size available and I will put them on whatever toe.. Thanks Paz on 1/7/02 6:50 AM, Steve Polifka at polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us wrote: > A friend of mine was so proud of her > Betty Boop slip-it-to-me-quick slippers... LOL! > (She had a whole closet full of the pumps...) > Steve > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:26:00 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) You see I told you I would smoke a turd.... As a matter of fact dear lady Jenny Fields is one of the great Anti-Heros of our time (in American Lit that is). I CANNOT believe you don't know this work. Bring yo ass to the library and read this one and then treat yourself to the video rental and drag along "my boy" Sal. Love ya Paz on 1/7/02 8:25 AM, AsharaJM@aol.com at AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > All this talk about me playing Jenny Fields..........I haven't read the book > nor seen the movie, so would someone please fill me in? Since it orginally > came from Mr. Paz, I can only imagine what a terrible person this Jenny > Fields is!! ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:30:41 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) Oh thanks a fecking lot Bree, you are a BIG help! Paz on 1/7/02 8:38 AM, Bree Mcdonough at bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com wrote: > I think if I remember correctly she is a tad over-sexed or she's frigid,I > can't remember? ;-) I could only get partially through that book. > > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:37:19 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: the top ten joni parodies I never wrote (NJC) Here's something to be grateful for -- The top ten Joni parodies I never wrote! They go something like this . . . #10. Taco Bell Lane #9. Taming the Trousers #8. Tex-Mex Kills #7. Two Grey Roots #6. Fat Man Who Farts and Whines #5. In France They Piss on Main Street #4. Scarey #3. Free Man Ed Harris (with apologies to Amy Madigan) #2. That Song About the Safeway #1. Decapitate Vic Morrow (Darn right!) --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:38:46 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) In a message dated 1/7/02 11:10:45 PM, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: << I have a feeling I might smoke a turd in purgatory for this one... >> Need a light? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:57:27 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The World According To... (NJC) on 1/7/02 4:35 PM, Murphycopy@aol.com at Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Ashara wrote: > > << I can only imagine what a terrible person this Jenny Fields is!! ;-) >> > > Quite the opposite, Ashara. > > Although I haven't read the book or seen the movie in 15 years or more, if I > remember correctly, Jennie was Garp's mother. She was a nurse who decided in > the 1940s that she wanted to be a mother, but not a wife, so she managed > Garp's conception in a rather unique way -- she had sex with a dying WW II > soldier in her care. Once Garp became old enough to go to school, she > supported them by working as a nurse in an Exeter-like prep school, which > gave Garp access to a better education than he would have had otherwise. This is where your brain farted oh great Murph. It wasn't that she started a movement, BUT she wrote a booook (in the proper English pronunciation), and the Ellen Jamison's adopted her as their hero and she bought the house in New England to house all the hangers on (so to speak). The Ellen Jamison's were the ladies that cut off their tongues to protest what had happened to the young lady of the same name who had been raped and then had her tongue cut out so she couldn't tell what had happened to her. BTW, Ashara dearest, Jenny was played by Glenn Close in the movie (AND i don't know what the feck THAT means, but I thought i should bring it up) Paz P.S. To hear Jenny tell the story of how Garp was concieved was like butta. > Later on, when Garp was grown, I believe, she wrote a book which started a > movement. (This is where the brain cells are most damaged because I can't > remember the nature of the movement.) Anyway -- this, Ashara, is where the > likeness to you gets so strong -- she established a home to which all kinds > of people came to 'heal' -- sort of like an endless Jonifest! > > Please wear the Jennie Fields nurse uniform at Jonifest 2002, Ashara! > > XO, > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:02:18 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: the top ten joni parodies I never wrote (NJC) Murph YOU have out down yoself agin. I laughed so fucking hard I fell off my puter chair (which has one foot missing off the bottom so it is wobbly anyways) and am still laughing so hard. Tex Mex Kills oh FECK!!!! Somebody stop him!!!! BTW are you share JImmy (yes down in Fla.) didn't write Taming The Trousers???? Paz on 1/7/02 8:37 PM, Murphycopy@aol.com at Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Here's something to be grateful for -- The top ten Joni parodies I never > wrote! > > They go something like this . . . > > #10. Taco Bell Lane > > #9. Taming the Trousers > > #8. Tex-Mex Kills > > #7. Two Grey Roots > > #6. Fat Man Who Farts and Whines > > #5. In France They Piss on Main Street > > #4. Scarey > > #3. Free Man Ed Harris (with apologies to Amy Madigan) > > #2. That Song About the Safeway > > #1. Decapitate Vic Morrow > > (Darn right!) > > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:09:37 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Chat Room (NJC) The fecking Chat Room is always empty. And here I am half in the bag and ready to chat. Dammit Paz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:29:36 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (njc) Gay Fannie Thanks Walt. Are you a George Clooney fan? I went to grade school with George. Actually, he's younger than me by about five or six years. We went to the same Catholic church.......He and his parents always came in right as the Mass was just begining. His father did a local entertainment show in Cincinnati and the news later in the 1980's. They always would sit in the pew in front of us or in back. Even though I was an older woman of thirteen I could tell George would grow up to be a cutie. His father Nick Clooney was/is very good looking too. He hosts an AM radio program in Cincy that plays the standards. Bree > >Bree wrote: > ><> > >I've heard through the grapevine that she is (I gotta friend who does >makeup >in the movies -- he actually gets to touch George Cloony *every day* at >this >writing (swoon) -- I don't know the working name of the movie), and he gets >some great gossip. Anyhoo, I hope that was the answer you wanted, Bree. >:-) > >Walt _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:36:28 -0800 From: "Robert Holliston" Subject: Happy 2002 njc Roberto here, hoping (a week late) that everyone has a wonderful 2002! I spent a really stupendous week and a half over the holidays in New York and Boston with people I initially met on the JMDL but who have become friends in real life, although we still have the list as our starting point. Anyway - and not to make any old-timers jealous (well, maybe a little ;-) - it was great to visit and spend time with Patrick Leader, Kay Ashley, Ric Welch, Heather Galli and her husband Fred, Chuck Eisenhardt and Barbara Hindley. Newcomers to the JMDL will be forgiven if they wonder who the hell we all are, as we've all been lurkers for quite a while. But we'll be back!! Great big hugs to all, Roberto (in Victoria, B.C., where it's been raining nonstop for three days) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:51:05 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (njc) Gay Fannie Not your cup of tea? I met Rosemary too. My high school band one time was on Nick Clooney's show (I played clarinet......what a geekette) and Rosemary whenever in Cincinnati would host the program with Nick. So she shook hands with ALL thirty members of my high school band. A very talented and nice woman. Bree >George clooney. Yuck. I don't get it. Now Rosemary, that is another >story. > >mack _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:26:05 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: the top ten joni parodies I never wrote (NJC) Thanks BOB!! It's one thirty Am and I needed a good laugh before I hop into bed. Bree > >Here's something to be grateful for -- The top ten Joni parodies I never >wrote! > >They go something like this . . . > >#10. Taco Bell Lane > >#9. Taming the Trousers > >#8. Tex-Mex Kills > >#7. Two Grey Roots > >#6. Fat Man Who Farts and Whines > >#5. In France They Piss on Main Street > >#4. Scarey > >#3. Free Man Ed Harris (with apologies to Amy Madigan) > >#2. That Song About the Safeway > >#1. Decapitate Vic Morrow > > (Darn right!) > > > --Bob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:26:30 +0800 From: "Nuriel Tobias" Subject: Today in Jewish Jokes (non-Joni) Maurice and Isaac found themselves sitting next to each other in a New York bar. After a while, Maurice looks at Isaac and says, "I can't help but think, from listening to you, that you're from Israel." Isaac responds proudly, "I am!" Maurice says, "So am I! And where might you be from?" Isaac answers, "I'm from Jerusalem." Maurice responds, "So am I! And where did you live?" Isaac says, "A lovely little area two miles east of King David's Hotel. Not too far from the old city" Maurice says, "Unbelievable! What school did you attend?" Isaac answers, "Well, I attended Yeshiva University." Maurice gets really excited, and says, "And so did I. Tell me, what year did you graduate?" Isaac answers, "I graduated in 1984." Maurice exclaims, "Amazing! I can hardly believe our good luck at winding up in the same bar tonight! Can you believe it, I graduated from Yeshiva University in 1984 also!" About this time, Fred enters the bar, sits down, and orders a beer. The bartender walks over to him shaking his head & mutters, "It's going to be a long night tonight, the Goldberg twins are drunk again." Nuri - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:42:25 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: SoCal JMDLer party It's that time of year again when our Mr. Paz strides into L.A. town for the NAMM show in his Betty Boop slip-ons and wearing a VG-8 and banjo on his knee. Accompanying him this visit will be our no. 1 party girl Alison from SLC (celebrating her birthday) and our sly wit and literature laureate of Marin County, Julius. Some of us will be getting together near NAMM in Anaheim for various events on Friday, Jan. 18 and Sat., Jan. 19th. On Sunday, Jan. 20th our wonderful Coyote Rick is hosting a dinner and music jam for the gang. Any SoCal or visiting JMDL'ers are invited to join us in the fun and can contact Paz or me for more details. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #14 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?