From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #3 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 2 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 003 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- of an only child's world [shane ] Today's Articles: January 2 [les@jmdl.com] Your first 2002 Joni [Nuriel Tobias ] Santa - red ot grey? (100%non-Joni) [Nuriel Tobias ] Joni for kids [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Annie Liebowitz [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: NJC - Once in a while in a big yellow moon - NJC [slarty ] Address Change (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Joni for kids [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni for kids [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: of an only child's world NJC [colin ] RE: Your first 2002 Joni ["Donna J. Binkley" ] Re: Apology [Les Irvin ] fingernail biting NJC [Tyler Hewitt ] RE: Your first 2002 Joni [Nuriel Tobias ] [none] [Alison E ] Re: often miss them - stars njc ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Your first 2002 Joni [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC Book NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Happy New Year NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Colored!!! NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: fingernail biting NJC [Reuben3rd@aol.com] The holly & the IV ["William Waddell" ] Joni and Amelia / my first 2002 resolution. ["brian symes" ] RE: NJC Book NJC ["Garret" ] Re: Bad Habits NJC ["Garret" ] Re: of an only child's world NJC [shane ] Joni - ASCAP Founders Award [shane ] Re: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Bad Habits NJC [Catherine McKay ] njc - thanks for the book ideas - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: of an only child's world NJC [colin ] Re: of an only child's world NJC [chiaroscuro@SNET.Net] Re: _Feliz_a=?ISO-8859-1?B?8Q==?=o_nuevo_NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Your first 2002 Joni [Michael Paz ] joni only child [shane ] Re: Your first 2002 Joni NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] belated merry christmas + Woody Allen + jim o'rourke + nick drake ["owen.] Joni in fiction again & a suggestion for a new section on the JMDL site [] Re: belated merry christmas + Woody Allen + jim o'rourke + nick drake [Mu] Lord of the Rings ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Your first 2002 Joni NJC [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:06:27 -0700 From: shane Subject: of an only child's world joni was an only child... michael benedikt poetically and beautifully describes the world of the only child at this site below, which i found to be very revealing to understanding a real part of joni mitchell: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/MichaelBenedikt/onlychld.html shane www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 03:36:37 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: January 2 On January 2 this article was published: 1995: "'The Difference' with Todd Rundgren" - The Difference (Interview - Audio Transcription) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/950102d.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Your first 2002 Joni Hi everyone, What's the first Joni song/album you've heard or going to hear in 2002? I thought and thought and then thought some more and decided that the best way for me to begin the 2002 Joni year will be listening to Hejira (the song) because it always brings tears to my eyes, and i think a good cry to begin this year with will later make a room for lots and lots of smiles. Love, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 01:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Santa - red ot grey? (100%non-Joni) Someone told me this morning that Santa, the guy in the red suit, was grey until coca-cola stepped in. Could someone shed a light on this Santa transformation for me? Thanks, Nuri _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:11:29 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Joni for kids Hello again dear people, A good friend of mine named Leesa who is teaching children music-listening asked me what Joni songs would be a good choice. I told her it's a great idea (the kids listen to the songs, talk about the lyrics -they understand English very well and Leesa says they're all bright and wise - and they even dance to the music). I would love to know what you think about Joni's "children songs". Thank you all, Nuriel (the kid) _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 07:00:43 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Annie Liebowitz This is truly a stunning picture of Joni. My close friend gave me a postcard of this for the holidays, and she was surprised, I think, at how incredibly pleased I was at a postcard! :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 07:13:51 -0500 From: slarty Subject: Re: NJC - Once in a while in a big yellow moon - NJC Looked the same in Montreal. Probably saw it around the same time you did. 615-6:30? Catherine McKay wrote: > Is anyone else seeing (has anyone else seen?) the moon > tonight? I was just out walking the dog and there it > was, hanging low in the sky, big round and yellow - > beautiful! The sky here is very clear tonight, so you > can see stars - not a lot of stars (after all, I'm in > the city), but, my God! you can see stars! > > ______________________________________________________ > Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 08:21:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC <> Correction...Benedikt describes HIS world. As the parent of an only child, one of the things I constantly have to battle is the stereotyping of an "only child" as spoiled, lonely, etc. My son is neither of these things. This prejudice is no different than saying that I'm a certain way because I grew up with two sisters. It's a ridiculous notion. We all grow up in unique situations and circumstances, and to say "this is the world of the only child" is just as insulting as saying "this is the world of the Canadian child", or "this is the world of the red-haired child". No hard feelings, Shane...it's a common mistake. I don't think Joni's genius was heightened or lessened by her being an only. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Other End of the Telescope" 5/15/96 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 08:28:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Bad Habits NJC <> Congratulations, Michael...it's not going to be easy, but hang in there! When you feel like lighting up, give me a ring and I'll talk you out of it. Or think about sticking around to be a super-cool Grandpa and jamming with your Grandkids! As for nail-biting, Garrett, I used to be bad. I mean BAD. I mean biting the nails down to the nub, then chewing on the skin around the nails! But it was the damndest thing...one day I just looked at my fingers and decided that it was a nasty-ass habit. Haven't had the desire to bite them since. I do chew gum like a maniac, though... Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "All This Useless Beauty" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:42:50 EST From: ZZScotty@aol.com Subject: NJC Book NJC Anything by Charles Bukowski. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:06:04 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni for kids My choice would be "Morning, Morgantown". I've always thought that would make a great kids' song. It's got a nice upbeat melody and there are lots of descriptive things that I think would appeal to kids. They could talk about the meanings of the lyrics and compare the descriptions in the song to what they know from their own lives. Joni could be talking to a lover, or she could be talking to a child. - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Hello again dear people, > > A good friend of mine named Leesa who is teaching > children music-listening asked me what Joni songs > would be a good choice. I told her it's a great idea > (the kids listen to the songs, talk about the lyrics > -they understand English very well and Leesa says > they're all bright and wise - and they even dance to > the music). > I would love to know what you think about Joni's > "children songs". > > Thank you all, > > Nuriel (the kid) > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather > and MORE! > Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ______________________________________________________ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:12:20 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Address Change (NJC) Happy New Year, everyone! Because I know a lot of people have my address for one thing or another, I just wanted to let you all know that I have closed my Post Office Box, so all future mail should now be sent to: Ashara Stansfield 40 Parsonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 Thanks! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 09:18:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni for kids Chelsea Morning would be another good pick, what with the butterscotch imagery, milk toast & honey, etc. Lots of good visuals. Big Yellow Taxi has also been used to teach kids about endangered animal species. It's even been recorded with a child's vocal. Bob NP: Elvis/Bill Frisell, "Weird Nightmare" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:45:29 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni for kids In a message dated 1/2/02 9:07:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > My choice would be "Morning, Morgantown". I've always > thought that would make a great kids' song. This is my granddaughter Anastasia's favorite Joni song. If we're going on a long road trip, I've got to remember to have that CD in my CD changer for sure. She hates Joni, but she'll tolerate her first two albums. She's resentful of anything that takes my attention away from her, which includes you guys LOL! During her Hits and Misses interview, Joni says Circle Game replaced Old Mc Donald at summer camps. LOL! (thanks Bob) ~rose in nj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:41:07 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC The experiences of an only child are different to those of a child with 1 sibling. The experience of aa child with 2 siblings is different to that of an only child and to that o the child having only 1 sibling. The experience of a child with 6 siblings is diffetrent to that of an onyl child and different to that of a child with 1 sibling and to the child with 2. In fact the experience of all children is different! Stereotyping is not good but not recognizing difference is not good either. We are all different, we all grow up differently, we all have different experiences and thus have different meaning structures. viva le difference!(sp) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:35:12 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Your first 2002 Joni Nuriel i was up (way) past midnight New Year's so the first Joni I listened to in 2002 was the cd we were given at the 2001 Jonifest - a live recording made in London in 1967 (?). It has songs on it i had not heard before so i've been drinking it in full time...(I hope to learn one for this year's Jonifest). Donna - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Nuriel Tobias Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:44 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Your first 2002 Joni Hi everyone, What's the first Joni song/album you've heard or going to hear in 2002? I thought and thought and then thought some more and decided that the best way for me to begin the 2002 Joni year will be listening to Hejira (the song) because it always brings tears to my eyes, and i think a good cry to begin this year with will later make a room for lots and lots of smiles. Love, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 09:51:42 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Apology a lurker wrote: >You know, I am a 98% lurker on this board but I do >have to just say that this is one of the most >offensive emails that I've ever read. Shortly after the post in question was sent to the list, I made the decision to remove Paul from the JMDL. Please direct any further questions or comments about this matter privately to me rather than the list. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:36:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: fingernail biting NJC As a lifelong nail biter, I too tried to quit many times, and only recently have been able to. It's a drastic measure, but since I started wearing braces on my teeth in September, I've been physically unable to bite my mails. The braces are in the way, and it's painful to try most of the time! So my advice-braces! Youll stop the habit and have straightened teeth as well. RE: I've been thinking about new years resolutions. Every year i try to quit *biting my fingernails!!*, it's a disgusting, vile, dirty habit and i cannot stop! I really find it sickening to see someone biting their fingernails, yet i do it every day! Does anything work?? Has anyone on the list quit successfully? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: RE: Your first 2002 Joni Donna wrote: "I was up (way) past midnight New Year's so the first Joni I listened to in 2002 was the cd we were given at the 2001 Jonifest - a live recording made in London...i've been drinking it in full time..." Oh Donna this is so lovely...So nightly and lovely and magical. I hope i will hear you sing it someday soon. Thank you. Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:46:13 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: [none] __________________________________________________ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 13:04:38 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: often miss them - stars njc Recent posts about the stars brought back my memories of childhood nights at my grandparents who lived way out in the country in deep East Texas. I was always enchanted at how bright and numerous the stars were in the sky when we got away from the city. I didn't know for years why the sky looked that way - I thought it was just part of the package of visiting my grandparents. Many years later, my brother and I were at a party out at a lake some distance from the city. It was a heavily wooded area, and I hadn't noticed the sky at all. Suddenly, we all looked out and saw one of my brother's inebriated friends lying flat on his back in the middle of the road - fortunately, a deserted country road. We all went running out to him to see what had happened to him, convinced that we would find him bleeding. He was having the time of his life - "Wow, man, look at the stars!!". We all just laughed and shook our heads at the city boy, and left him there. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:10:28 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: breathing :-) njc Kate (Bennett) closed a note with "breathe a lot, its the year 02!" I *love* that -- seriously -- did you make it up, or did someone Oprah hired do it? lol, walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:25:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: breathing :-) njc haha...no i cannot take credit...a friend said it to me... >Kate (Bennett) closed a note with "breathe a lot, its the year 02!" I *love* that -- seriously -- did you make it up, or did someone Oprah hired do it? lol, walt< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:33:16 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Your first 2002 Joni In a message dated 1/2/2002 3:44:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, nuriel@wowmail.com writes: > What's the first Joni song/album you've heard or going to hear in 2002? > Nuriel, it wasn't by choice (although a good one) the first Joni song I listened to this year was "A Case of You". Since someone on the list mentioned that Sonic radio was no longer available and Launchcast.com is the new "make your own radio station", I plugged in all my musical likes here at work. Naturally I picked Joni as an artist I wanted to hear, and they just played "ACOY" followed by "Circle Game". Happy New Year to all, Jimmy, who made *NO* New Years resolutions and so far so good :~) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:43:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC Book NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good book to read? "Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates" by Tom Robbins (now in paperback) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:54:56 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy New Year NJC "Garret" wrote: >And that horrible tasting stuff that people put on their nails to prevent >nail biting, sorry, it just isn't *that* disgusting! Try fox urine. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:00:51 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Colored!!! NJC >But [white folks]: > >When you're sick, you're green When I started dating my wife, her roommate was black, and he got food poisoning one day. Believe me, he turned green. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 15:19:18 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: fingernail biting NJC Since its up for discussion...I too, have been a hardcore nail-biter for 25 years, and quit over the holidays this year...I now need to purchase a nail clipper for the first time in my life. It is really nice to not have disfigured, scraped up fingers (I also was one to bite not only the nail, but the cuticle and basically anything below the first knuckle!) My solution: I got a very small wart on one finger, and I was afraid it would spread if I didn't keep away from it. The wart was gone within a week, but I have not had the urge to bite since then. Good luck! Reuben In a message dated Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:37:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tyler Hewitt writes: > As a lifelong nail biter, I too tried to quit many > times, and only recently have been able to. > It's a drastic measure, but since I started wearing > braces on my teeth in September, I've been physically > unable to bite my mails. The braces are in the way, > and it's painful to try most of the time! > > So my advice-braces! Youll stop the habit and have > straightened teeth as well. > > > > RE: > > I've been thinking about new years resolutions. Every > year i try to quit *biting my fingernails!!*, it's a > disgusting, vile, dirty habit and i cannot > stop! I really find it sickening to see someone > biting their fingernails, > yet i do it every day! Does anything work?? Has > anyone on the list quit successfully? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:42:04 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: The holly & the IV "'Tis the season to be Joni Tra la la la la la la la la" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 04:40:54 +0800 From: "brian symes" Subject: Joni and Amelia / my first 2002 resolution. I have my Daughter Amelia 1-1-99 hooked on Joni. When I pop in a tape with any Joni song she says right off so sweetly "Ame song" needless to say my two versions are on alot of tapes. I am afraid I have been lurking off in the Shire these last days as I reread The Lord of the Rings, The New Movie was up there with the likes of "Captain Blood and Robin Hood with Errol Flynn " It threw Star Wars chapter one down the Throat of Mount Doom and made Harry Potter lok like Muggles work My new Ent name is Cleargrain. - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:41:43 -0300 From: "Edgardo Viegas" Subject: hello and Happy NewYear!! NJC Best wishes and happy new year for everybody in the discussion list! I know tthat you don't have the q, but "feliz ano nuevo" is a very fun expression. jajajajajaja!!! thank you by your answer, and one more time i wish to tell you: "Que el 2002 sea un "year" MEJOR (better year) for EVERYBODY en todo el mundo!!! :) EDGARDO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:37:38 -0000 From: "Garret" Subject: RE: NJC Book NJC Catherine, Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons is quite a light hearted take on the melodrama typical of many books from the 1930's. It is quite hilarious at times. Filled with odd-ball supporting and sideline characters and an ever so snobby yet utterly charming main character, Flora Poste, the novel is easy to read and not preachy. Nor is it too long! That is exactly why i chose it; i needed something that was uplifting, intelligent, and well written. This one passed the test for me. Very probably the funniest book i've read since Catch 22 and Diary of a Nobody! I would also recommend A Passage To India which i read in September or October and really enjoyed. I had thought it was going to be dull and tedious; i was judging by the "blurb" on the back of the book. I found it to be quite thrilling. The characters had a ring of reality to them; their imperfections were central to their characters and so understandable. I'm not sure if this one rams its message down your throat, as one friend of mine maintains. The Newton Letter by John Banville is quite short and very captivating. It should be made into a short movie! John Banville is an Irish author famed for his "revolutions trilogy", of which this book is the third. It isn't really a trilogy. In fact, they are three entirely stand alone novels. The first i've not read "Doctor Copernicus", the second "Kepler" i am currently reading, slowly but surely, and the third "Newton Letter" i enjoyed immensely. It is about scientific revolution, if indeed such a thing existed. The Newton Letter is semi fiction, if that term makes sense Catherine. A contemporary researcher gets caught up in his research about Newton and i suppose he beocmes sidetracked as he tries to finish a book he is writing, and this makes for a good little story! I;m not giving it away, just in case you do decide to take that one! Let us all know what you eventually decide Chaterine!! LOTR isn't bad, so they say:-) GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:46:55 -0000 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Bad Habits NJC Bob, you give me hope!! I'm pretty bad too! The worst part of biting my finger nails is that i know, i really know, how disgusting it is! Sometimes i do manage to catch myself in time, but usually it jsut sort of happens, and next thing i know is that my teeth are quite sore. I always have these dreams about my teeth falling out, and that actually scares me! As for picking my nose, hehe, no, i havn't done that for about 16 years:-) I'd try it if i thought it'd work...... GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:17:23 -0700 From: shane Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC bob, i find your response off base - "triggered" ...michael benedikt described things as a poet with grace and the spirit of generosity and celebration... joni herself has described these realities in no less full a manner... instead of knocking down my discovery of this poetic piece as "prejudiced", i would invite you to gently look into why it so triggered you and thus attack with such condemning labels a poetic piece which has the distinguishing trademark of poetic wonder... shane - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:21 AM Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC > <> > > Correction...Benedikt describes HIS world. > > As the parent of an only child, one of the things I constantly have to battle is the stereotyping of an "only child" as spoiled, lonely, etc. My son is neither of these things. > > This prejudice is no different than saying that I'm a certain way because I grew up with two sisters. It's a ridiculous notion. We all grow up in unique situations and circumstances, and to say "this is the world of the only child" is just as insulting as saying "this is the world of the Canadian child", or "this is the world of the red-haired child". > > No hard feelings, Shane...it's a common mistake. I don't think Joni's genius was heightened or lessened by her being an only. > > Bob > > NP: Elvis Costello, "Other End of the Telescope" 5/15/96 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:29:41 -0700 From: shane Subject: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award Read the lovely and insightful description of Joni and her work on a page marking for her the ASCAP Founders Award: http://www.ascap.com/membership/pop99-4.html I'm going to make a little link to this from my own Joni page: http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactussongjoni.html happy new year! shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:32:19 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award NJC <> Now THAT one I can agree with! ;~D Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Inch By Inch" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 13:52:48 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award Thanks, Shane, very insightful indeed. I've seen all those pictures, except the one at the very top. She is so stunning......it is now my wallpaper. Bree >From: shane >Reply-To: shane >To: joni@smoe.org >CC: cactussong@shaw.ca >Subject: Joni - ASCAP Founders Award >Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:29:41 -0700 > >Read the lovely and insightful description of Joni and her work on a page >marking >for her the ASCAP Founders Award: >http://www.ascap.com/membership/pop99-4.html >I'm going to make a little link to this from my own Joni page: >http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactussongjoni.html > >happy new year! > >shane _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: hello and Happy NewYear!! NJC Edgardo, I'm so glad you have a sense of humour! Yours truly, The ano. - --- Edgardo Viegas wrote: > Best wishes and happy new year for everybody in > the discussion list! I > know tthat you don't have the q, but "feliz ano > nuevo" is a very fun > expression. jajajajajaja!!! thank you by your > answer, and one more time i wish > to tell you: "Que el 2002 sea un "year" MEJOR > (better year) for EVERYBODY en > todo el mundo!!! :) > > > > EDGARDO ______________________________________________________ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:06:32 -0800 From: "Joe Gomez" Subject: two grey rooms Hey Shane thanks for the link (s) I just saw / heard two grey rooms , anyone , which recording is this song from ? I believe it might become one of my favorites ! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:11:48 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bad Habits NJC - --- Garret wrote: > I always have these > dreams about my teeth falling out, and that actually > scares me! A lot of us have the teeth-falling-out dream. Apparently it's a popular dream theme. Along with the trying-to-get-somewhere-but-you-get-lost-or-you-just- can't-get-there-for-all-kinds-of-reasons dream and the not-being-able-to-walk-dream. I thought of another way to quit biting your nails. Take classical guitar lessons - you need nails for that and your teacher will shame you into quitting the nail-biting; also, your nails will look so *cool* after you've got them grown and filed and buffed just the right way that you won't want to bite them. ______________________________________________________ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: njc - thanks for the book ideas - njc Thanks, everyone, for the great book ideas. I knew I could count on jmdlers to come up with good stuff. I didn't have anything in the house to read and if I don't have anything to read, I go crazy and start firing off e-mails to the list in hopes someone will answer (so I'll have something to read!) I've taken to reading the backs of cereal boxes and the ingredients on the shampoo bottles. Since I'm Canadian, i can read these in both English and French, so it gives me twice the reading pleasure. Still, how often can a person read about lecithin and laureth (it's kind of scary, really). ______________________________________________________ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 15:40:42 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: florian fricke r.i.p. (njc) > From the "Mystic Records" website: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > SHOCK DEATH OF INSPIRATIONAL GERMAN ROCK LEGEND > FLORIAN FRICKE, the innovative German composer who created the mythical Kraut > rock band POPOL VUH died on December 29th at his home following the result > of a stroke suffered just before Christmas. > > Florian and his band Popol Vuh (the name was taken from that of the sacred > book of the ancient Mayan Quiche Indians) first came to prominence during the > early seventies when Florian recorded the first ever experimental album built > around the MOOG SYNTHESIZER entitled Affenstunde (The Hour Of The Monkeys). > > > Since that time in 1970, Florian Fricke and Popol Vuh have released in excess > of thirty albums (not including compilations) including the recent SHEPHERDS > SYMPHONY on Mystic Records, a wonderful, mystical adventure based around the > music of the lost South American Indian tribes. > > Florian was of course renowned as the composer of the soundtracks to the > legendary WERNER HERZOG movies that starred the late KLAUS KINSKI including > such classics as Aguirre, Nosferatu, Cobra Verde and Fitzcarraldo. > > The transcendental, visionary music of Florian Fricke will survive him for > generations to come. The Kraut Rock movement, those who appreciate New Age > music, anyone who likes great music have lost a true legend. > > Ironically, the latest Popol Vuh release FUTURE SOUND EXPERIENCE is > released by Mystic Records on January 15th. > > For further details please contact Mystic Records. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:11:13 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC shane wrote: > bob, > > i find your response off base - "triggered" > ...michael benedikt described things as a poet with grace > and the spirit of generosity and celebration... > joni herself has described these realities in no less > full a manner... > instead of knocking down my discovery of this poetic piece as > "prejudiced", I know Bob can defend himself but.... Bob did NOT attack your discovery of the piece. > i would invite you > to gently look into why it so triggered you > and thus attack with such condemning labels a poetic piece > which has the distinguishing trademark of poetic wonder... neither did he use condemning labels of the piece in question!!!! He merely pointed out, and rightly so, that the piece is about the man's experience as an only child and not about ALL only children. It would help if we actually read what was written before deciding to be offended. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 19:18:18 -0500 From: chiaroscuro@SNET.Net Subject: Re: of an only child's world NJC This is an interesting subject. It comes up quite often around our house. My daughter and husband are both ' only children' . I have 5 siblings! We discuss the affects that our surroundings had on us as we grew up. What we came up with is ' the grass is always greener on the other side.' :-) They would have wanted a brother or sister and I wanted peace and quiet! Ha! I have to agree, Bob ... I don't think being only or not affects creativity or genius. What DOES affect it is whether the creativity / genius is nurtured. Doesn't seem like Joni's parents hindered her in any way. Heather At 08:21 AM 1/2/02 -0500, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: ><only child at this site below,>> > >Correction...Benedikt describes HIS world. > >As the parent of an only child, one of the things I constantly have to >battle is the stereotyping of an "only child" as spoiled, lonely, etc. My >son is neither of these things. > >This prejudice is no different than saying that I'm a certain way because >I grew up with two sisters. It's a ridiculous notion. We all grow up in >unique situations and circumstances, and to say "this is the world of the >only child" is just as insulting as saying "this is the world of the >Canadian child", or "this is the world of the red-haired child". > >No hard feelings, Shane...it's a common mistake. I don't think Joni's >genius was heightened or lessened by her being an only. > >Bob > >NP: Elvis Costello, "Other End of the Telescope" 5/15/96 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:37:17 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: _Feliz_a=?ISO-8859-1?B?8Q==?=o_nuevo_NJC In Mac Outlook Express it looks find when I hit the send button, but when I see my post in the digest it's all wierd (must be because the server is on a PC tee heee). Paz on 1/1/02 7:15 PM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: > If I hit <~> in Word, it gives me > the n with the ~. When I try this in the Yahoo e-mail > program, I get nada, niente, nichts. It just doesn't > work - maybe it's one of those plain-text vs rich-text > things. I hope someone can help me apologize to > Edgardo - I feel terrible and even though I took > Spanish in first-year university, I've forgotten most > of it and what I do remember, I get mixed up with > Italian. If anyone needs a nuevo ano, it's not > Edgardo - it's someone who doesn't get the njc > e-mails, so I could name him if I wanted to > (nyah-nyah) but for now, you probably know who I mean > (the one who recently used some strong and > not-very-nice language towards a certain beekeeper and > whose e-mail name sounds vaguely popish.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:40:58 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC Book NJC ANYTHING by Tom Robbins. I am currently reading (and am almost finished with the hilarious Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates. One of my faves of his is Still Life With Woodpecker and Another Roadside Attraction (a whack at the Catholic Church). He is really entertaining and laugh out loud funny. Best Paz on 1/1/02 7:38 PM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good book to read? I'm bored > and I have nothing to read right now. Since I've been > driving to work, I've lost my subway-reading-time, so > it's taking me a lot longer to read a book and I can > only renew at the library for so long before they > won't let me renew it anymore. > > I'm looking for something uplifting but not trite. If > it has a message, it shouldn't bang you over the head > with it. It can be funny, sad, tragic or exciting - > better yet, all of these. It has to be intelligent, > but not intellectual. > > Apart from that, I'm not fussy - fact or fiction, > bring it on! > > ______________________________________________________ > Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 19:06:39 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Your first 2002 Joni Thanks for the tip Jimmy I use to love My Sonic net (those bastards) I just tried to sign up at home and they don't support MAC format, but I will listen at work and when I do I will think of you (in that tight little pink halter top and the fuckme pumps). Love Ya Paz on 1/2/02 11:33 AM, FMYFL@aol.com at FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/2/2002 3:44:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, > nuriel@wowmail.com writes: > > >> What's the first Joni song/album you've heard or going to hear in 2002? >> > > Nuriel, it wasn't by choice (although a good one) the first Joni song I > listened to this year was "A Case of You". Since someone on the list > mentioned that Sonic radio was no longer available and Launchcast.com is the > new "make your own radio station", I plugged in all my musical likes here at > work. Naturally I picked Joni as an artist I wanted to hear, and they just > played "ACOY" followed by "Circle Game". > > Happy New Year to all, > Jimmy, who made *NO* New Years resolutions and so far so good :~) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:38:19 -0700 From: shane Subject: joni only child a fascinating subject; the poet i've cited described a world of wonder and exploration; as i have wandered through the city parks, by the rivers, to lakes and oceans -writing my poems and songs - i know that being an only child has been quite a gift in the discovery and development of my creativity. i have to agree, joni, the times you have mentioned when being an only child affected your creativity in a positive way: <> (http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue06/music.jmitchell.html) shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:37:07 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Your first 2002 Joni NJC In a message dated 1/2/02 8:01:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: > Thanks for the tip Jimmy I use to love My Sonic net (those bastards) I just > tried to sign up at home and they don't support MAC format, but I will > listen at work and when I do I will think of you (in that tight little > pink halter top and the fuckme pumps). > > OK MR. PAZ!!! this is ed who happened to walk by jimmy's email screen. i want details about when you saw him in that little outfit. you must be something special there, sailor. my countless years of purchases from victoria's secret have all been returned unopened! i won't tell you how many crotchless panties have gone back in the box.(he he). i do recall that one time i saw you on royal street wearing that teal sequined number with the spaghetti straps. ( one very seductively sliding down your dainty shoulder). still makes my gator growl when i think of it. i was going to come say "hi", but you got into that black limo with all those guys. i found out later that you can't resist nine inch nails. he he. just a hi from ed, who is alive and ready to see/meet all of you this year. happy, happy! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:22:38 -0000 From: "owen.duff" Subject: belated merry christmas + Woody Allen + jim o'rourke + nick drake Just a post to say a late Happy Christmas to all JMDLers, hope you had a good one, and didnt eat too much! I got the Karen O'Brien book for christmas, and was surprised to see that Turbulent Indigo was one of Woody Allen's favourite CDs of 1994. I *love* Woody Allen, and I *love* Joni (dont think theyd make a very good couple tho...:-)), so I was thrilled to read this - Woody is notorious for his criticism of popular culture and rock stars in particular, so to think that he rates our Joan tickles me pink! Owen p.s does anybody else like jim o'rourke or nick drake? np Sire of Sorrow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:39:35 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Joni in fiction again & a suggestion for a new section on the JMDL site From time to time on the list, people write about coming across references to Joni in modern works of fiction. I posted something about a year ago when I stumbled upon a couple of Joni mentions in a book I would not recommend called _Pool Boy_ by someone whose name I've forgotten. And a few weeks ago, I think MG and/or Bree mentioned something about Joni in a trashy novel. So I got to thinking . . . if Les thinks it's a good idea, and if you all can let me know about Joni literary references you've come across, maybe we can add a new section to the JMDL devoted to Joni mentions in fiction. I would be glad to volunteer to take on the project. I think it's pretty impressive that so many writers have been choosing to include Joni in their stories lately. For example, today I was reading a short story by Roddy Doyle, the Irish author of such great novels as _The Commitments_, _The Van_, and _The Snapper_ (which comprise his Barrytown Trilogy and have all been made into movies), plus _Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha_, and _A Star Called Henry_. I have transcribed most of the paragraph in which Joni appears below, but before I get to that I'd like to tell you a little bit about the short story collection in which Doyle's story appears. Edited by Nick Hornby, author of _High Fidelity_ (which was also made into a film that had a memorable scene that involved Joni), the book is called _Speaking with the Angel_. Hornby decided to put the collection together after being inspired by the success of Bono's Jubilee 2000 campaign, which was created to reduce the Third World's debt to the West. The purpose of the book is to raise funds for Hornby's autistic son's school -- called TreeHouse - -- in London. If you purchase the book in the UK, one pound goes to the school, and if you buy it in the US, two dollars from the cost of the book will be split between TreeHouse and a similar school in Queens called the New York Child Learning Institute. Hornby writes in the introduction about the experience of parenting an autistic child and the difficulties in finding schools for these children, which is what led him and other parents of autistic children to establish TreeHouse. Anyway, I digress. But my point is, if you buy this book, it's for a very good cause. The other news is, the book is great. I love modern fiction, but I am no big fan of short stories because I have thought for years that the format pretty much died out about 50 years ago. Well, Hornby has gathered some of the funniest writers out there for a short story collection that is a very entertaining -- sometimes even laugh-out-loud-funny -- read from beginning to end. The writers are mainly British, although there are some Irish and American writers in the mix. Besides Hornby and Doyle, the book features Zadie Smith (_White Teeth_), Dave Eggers (_A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius_), Helen Fielding (_Bridget Jones's Diary_), Giles Smith (Midnight in the Garden of Evel Knievel_), Jonh O'Farrell (_The Best a Man Can Get_), and Melissa Bank (_The Girls' Guide to Hunting and Fishing_), among others. The Roddy Doyle story with Joni in it is called "The Slave." Here's about one third of the paragraph in which her name appears: "I bought a CD today. I went down to Virgin during the break. I was going to get one of the old ones, something I loved but didn't have on CD. Dylan or Bob Seger or the Eagles or Bob Marley or Joni Mitchell -- I could go on forever. But I didn't. I had "Blue" and "Blood on the Tracks" in my hand -- I was going to get the both of them. But I didn't. I went for something completely new. I bought an album by Leftfield, this band that isn't really a band. They're a pair of young lads who do this sampling and mixing, you know. Robbing other people's ideas and making their own thing out of it . . ." Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:45:10 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: belated merry christmas + Woody Allen + jim o'rourke + nick drake In a message dated 1/2/02 8:40:35 PM, owen.duff@ntlworld.com writes: << Woody is notorious for his criticism of popular culture and rock stars in particular, so to think that he rates our Joan tickles me pink! >> And he's also a jazz musician, among other aledged things! ;-) --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:20:47 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Lord of the Rings We went to see it last night & I am glad I read Victor's review to prepare me for a major dissapointment after reading so many good reviews of this movie. Even though it has been decades since I have read these books & I hardly remembered any details, I agree 100% with Victor. Yes, the sets were beautiful, the special effects amazing, but it was all about action & no character development & barely even any story at all which is a big shame. It seemed mostly about how great they could make the special effects, whether they were neccessary or not...sometimes they were overdone like a record that has been overproduced. You notice the effects rather than being carried away by the movie. A visual treat but really just another very two dimensional action flick with a few poetic lines thrown in here & there. However, I have never in my life seen such SCARY evil characters...that part was exceptional. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:26:48 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Your first 2002 Joni NJC Big ED! What's up dawg??? All dem queens in the quarter be crying for you bato. Just you wait till you see my outfit for this years JoniFest near Woodstock. John Kelly has agreed to lend me a few things for my show. I promise not to do more than 5 costume changes this year and yea the rumours are true I am doing a tribute to DED. Hopefully you (and Mr. Jimmy) will be able to make it. BTW the visual of crotchless panties going back in the box was a little over the top (so to speak). Great to hear from you you wild Cuban. Abrazos, Michael P.S. Hey Jimmy who knew that Cuban could type??? on 1/2/02 5:37 PM, FMYFL@aol.com at FMYFL@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/2/02 8:01:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: Thanks for the tip Jimmy I use to love My Sonic net (those bastards) I just tried to sign up at home and they don't support MAC format, but I will listen at work and when I do I will think of you (in that tight little pink halter top and the fuckme pumps). OK MR. PAZ!!! this is ed who happened to walk by jimmy's email screen. i want details about when you saw him in that little outfit. you must be something special there, sailor. my countless years of purchases from victoria's secret have all been returned unopened! i won't tell you how many crotchless panties have gone back in the box.(he he). i do recall that one time i saw you on royal street wearing that teal sequined number with the spaghetti straps. ( one very seductively sliding down your dainty shoulder). still makes my gator growl when i think of it. i was going to come say "hi", but you got into that black limo with all those guys. i found out later that you can't resist nine inch nails. he he. just a hi from ed, who is alive and ready to see/meet all of you this year. happy, happy! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2002 #3 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?