From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #596 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 596 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: December 15 [les@jmdl.com] Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) ["Kate Bennett" ] Happy Birthday njc ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Hiraeth (long) NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] synesthesia (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Come in from the cold (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2001 #595 ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Later, Joni (or "Shoot me now, I'm middle aged")(njc) ["Ron Greer" ] Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) [colin ] Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) [Murphycopy@aol.com] Joni in strange places [MGVal@aol.com] Re: 3 Questions -NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) ["Johnson Victor" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #385 [StDoherty@aol.com] colors and sound [Yael Harlap ] RE: Come in from the cold (NJC) [Mags N Brei ] harold and maude NJC [Yael Harlap ] RE:CMIARS ["owen.duff" ] Re: 3 Questions -NJC [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: 3 Questions -NJC [Wtking59@cs.com] NJC Tea for the Tillerman ["Alan Larson" ] Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) [colin ] (njc)Rimbaud: Colorvowels and Party-Dude :-) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Joni in strange places ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Joni in strange places [Mags N Brei ] Vanilla Sky & Joni! ["J.David Sapp" ] (njc) How hollywood works... (content warning) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] must have masterpieces [WARREN901@aol.com] Tapes from Jonifest/Topsfield ["Marilyn Huggins" ] Re: Joni in strange places ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Vanilla Sky & Joni! ["Johnson Victor" ] pics ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Vanilla sky and joni painting mystery [Monafitz@aol.com] Re: Tapes from Jonifest/Topsfield ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #595 [EVRIBUTJON@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 03:02:19 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: December 15 On December 15 these articles were published: 1994: "Question and Answer: Joni Mitchell" - Rolling Stone (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/951215rs.cfm 1994: "Turbulent Indigo" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941215rs.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 654 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:54:09 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) this has a name? i always saw colors in letters, numbers & days of the weeks, etc... monday- brown, tuesday- light yellow, wednesday- orange, thursday- lighter orange, friday- dark blue, saturday- light blue, sunday- red >perceptions of colors in letters of the alphabet< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:56:14 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Happy Birthday njc Happy Birthday Mike P in Barcelona! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:56:17 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Hiraeth (long) NJC Thank you Mike for this explanation. I think it is related to my song which is definately about longing for something.... i think it is more about longing for a bright future as you describe...i think it is a very common feeling...the seeds of my song began when i was going through a transition & was barely able to handle doing what was required of me, knowing that my future was calling me, a change was coming but not knowing how or when it would be....i don't think that part is related to hiraeth but there is enough to your description & in Wally's to strike a deep chord in me... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 05:15:21 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: synesthesia (njc) actually, synesthesia is a very common device in our everyday use of language. whenever you combine references to several senses in one utterance, you are creating synesthesia. ''soft sounds'' [soft=tactile, sounds=aural], ''shrilling color'' [aural-visual], etc.. wally, who rather needs anesthesia after editing 34 UCLA admission essays!!!! - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Kate Bennett Enviado el: Sabado, 15 de Diciembre de 2001 04:54 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) this has a name? i always saw colors in letters, numbers & days of the weeks, etc... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 05:38:33 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Come in from the cold (NJC) kakki, you're right and i'm being unfair. it's how it feels that counts. i've been to places where the thermometer marked a seemingly pleasant temperature whereas i felt like i was either roasting or freezing, depending on the season. i never feel cold in new york but i thought i would die in berlin. is it the humidity and lack thereof? i believe in heat indexes and windchill factors. wally, closer and closer to the roasting season. - -----Mensaje original----- De: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Enviado el: Viernes, 14 de Diciembre de 2001 10:41 p.m. Para: Wally Kairuz; Mary E. Pitassi; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Come in from the cold (NJC) I want you and Mary to come here in the depths of winter and then we'll talk! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 06:03:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: rimbaud poem (njc) here's ''voyelles'', the famous poem by arthur rimbaud. below is an english translation. for more on the many interpretations of this poem go to http://www.multimania.com/mag4/Rimbaud/Frames.html wally, a rimbaud fan since childhood. VOYELLES A noir, E blanc, I rouge, U vert, O bleu : voyelles, Je dirai quelque jour vos naissances latentes : A, noir corset velu des mouches iclatantes Qui bombinent autour des puanteurs cruelles, Golfes d'ombre ; E, candeur des vapeurs et des tentes, Lances des glaciers fiers, rois blancs, frissons d'ombelles ; I, pourpres, sang crachi, rire des lhvres belles Dans la colhre ou les ivresses pinitentes ; U, cycles, vibrements divins des mers virides, Paix des pbtis semis d'animaux, paix des rides Que l'alchimie imprime aux grands fronts studieux ; O, suprjme Clairon plein des strideurs itranges, Silence traversis des Mondes et des Anges : - - O l'Omiga, rayon violet de Ses Yeux ! VOWELS A Black, E white, I red, U green, O blue : vowels, I shall tell, one day, of your mysterious origins : A, black velvety jacket of brilliant flies Which buzz around cruel smells, Gulfs of shadow ; E, whiteness of vapours and of tents, Lances of proud glaciers, white kings, shivers of cow-parsley ; I, purples, spat blood, smile of beautiful lips In anger or in the raptures of penitence; U, waves, divine shudderings of viridian seas, The peace of pastures dotted with animals, the peace of the furrows Which alchemy prints on broad studious foreheads ; O, sublime Trumpet full of strange piercing sounds, Silences crossed by Worlds and by Angels : O the Omega, the violet ray of Her Eyes ! -----Mensaje original----- De: RobSher50@aol.com [mailto:RobSher50@aol.com] Enviado el: Viernes, 14 de Diciembre de 2001 06:28 p.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Sounds as colors/ rimbaud. (njc) Dear Wally, I'm not familiar with Arthur Rimbaud. Could you share his poem? Sherelle In a message dated 12/14/2001 1:07:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: but don't you all remember that famous poem by arthur rimbaud? wally ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:55:13 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2001 #595 A career? How about writer, poet, musician...but you have to get it out of your head, onto paper or tape, etc...can't worry about good or not cuz that stops the process & is irrelevant anyway...i don't understand why you would call the product of your imagination useless...what about the books you love to read & the music you love to listen to...these things were once inside someone's head...just like yours is... Mary wrote >>My imagination during the day is active and I'm always thinking of stuff to write about - ideas constantly go through my head. whether they are any good or not is another story. I also constantly have poems and song lyrics and also often music going through my mind too. does anyone else experience this? If anyone has any strategies for using any of this stuff in a career, I'd love to hear it. I always treated it as a totally useless skill. in fact, I've spent most of my life suppressing what goes on in my imagination rather than encouraging it, because I couldn't see any way to use it productively.<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:27:34 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: Re: Later, Joni (or "Shoot me now, I'm middle aged")(njc) hey pete about that "hope i die before i get old" thing?? TOO LATE!!!! ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:07:01 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) wow! I have never met any one else who has this. Just your colours are wrong!;-) Kate Bennett wrote: > this has a name? i always saw colors in letters, numbers & days of the > weeks, etc... > > monday- brown, tuesday- light yellow, wednesday- orange, thursday- lighter > orange, friday- dark blue, saturday- light blue, sunday- red > > >perceptions of colors in letters of the alphabet< > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:13:25 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) Hi Shereele-I have never thought of it as odd. I love my dream life. It is interesting. I also take note of them-some of them are prophetic, others are my higher Self trying to tell me something and others are a Higher Power telling me something. I remember once I was VERY scared, and awaiting results which would tell me if I had cancer or not. I went into a dream like state and a hand, bathed in light, passed me an envelope. i opened it and it was 'exam results' which said 'pass'. My cancer test came back negative. I used to dream about new Carly albums too and the covers were always what i saw. Juts beforee the realease of Torch, i dreamt i was in a forest and met carly. She was dressed in a low cut eveing gown, smiling, with her arm wrapped around a tree(at leatds I thought it was a tree. the album cover is just what I dreamed except I recently noticed that what i assumed to be a tree is actually a man! Dreams can be awful but generally they are important as they are trying to tell us stuff and soemtimes stuff that we won't acknowledge so we keeop ahving the dream till we understand and take note. RobSher50@aol.com wrote: > Dear Colin, > My husband is always amazed how vividly I remember my dreams (I dream in > color too). I can still remember a bad dream I had around age five as vividly > as if I'd had the dream last night. I also have places that exist only in my > dreams and they are very familiar to me. I've always known I was different, > but had a tendency to treat that individuality in a negative manner. It's > nice to know that I'm not alone anymore. Colin, I hope you feel the same way. > > Sherelle > > In a message dated 12/14/2001 6:52:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, > colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > > > > I bet you > > > dream in color too? > > > > > > > doesn't everyone? > > i know not everyone rememebers their dreams but I do. i dream every time i > > sleep, be it for hours or a few minutes(length of sleep i mean). Don;t know > > how > > long the dreams last for. they are always vivid, sometimes good soemtimes > > bad > > and soemtimes terrible. > > I remeber dreams I had many years ago. Not just bad ones. > > The one thing I find odd about dreams; > > I remeber them, the places in them, as if they were real places I have been > > too. > > i recall the landscapes, the buildings as well as the events. It's the > > landscapes and buildings i find odd cos I know they only exist in my dream > > but > > the memoreies feel no different to memeories of real places and are just as > > vivid. I don't get the two confused at all but it is definately like having > > two > > sets of life meories, one here and one elsewhere. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:52:06 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) In a message dated 12/15/01 6:12:18 AM, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: << I recently noticed that what i assumed to be a tree is actually a man! >> I hate when that happens. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:04:58 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Joni in strange places I'll be darned if I say exactly what piece of fluffer nutter trashy novel I found this Joni mention in but I was truly surprised. What's next? Joni in Taylor's Ham Monthly? "......She put on an old Joni Mitchell tape and lay on he sofa with the lights turned off.......The next song was slower and in a minor key, filled with high notes that the singer hadn't been able to hit for years. How awful it must be, Anne though, to have once had a voice like that, to hear your young self constantly on the radio, and know you would never be able to sing that way again. Anne had read that the singer didn't care. She smoked cigarettes and painted and did other things. Anne rewound the tape and listened again from the beginning." +++++ Of course, we know it's fiction because Joni isn't played constantly on the radio. The author has her characters playing Joni tapes a few more times throughout the book, (don't know why they never use CDs), and I can ever recall a book where Joni was used to illustrate a mood. MG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:14:34 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: 3 Questions -NJC << Question #3. In the musical "Godspell" does anyone know of a reference to Laura Nyro (in either the movie or stage version)? >> Does Nyro fiddle while Rome burns? ;~D Seriously, that's a good trivia question. I love Schwartz's songs for that show, I'll dig into that one. If you go to Cat Stevens home page, you should be able to find the track listing for the Harold & Maude soundtrack LP. I looked it up one time for Yael. Where are you anyway, Yael? Bob NP: Glenn Tilbrook, "G.H.O.S. Essential" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 9:22:19 -0800 From: "Johnson Victor" Subject: Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) "I only dream in infrared" -Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:34:42 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Krall to Minneapolis Jack said: Subject: Diana Krall comes to Chicago .......... She is coming to Minneapolis in March and I plan to buy tickets on Monday!!! I can hardly wait. Peace......bee-girl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:56:33 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Questions NJC >Billy wrote: >I have 3 questions that have been driving me bonkers for the longest time >now. If anyone knows the answers, I'd be ever so grateful. >Question #2. >What were the Joan Baez songs used in the movie "Silent Running" and what >album can I find them on? Maybe the box set? >Thanks a bunch, >Billy Billy, The songs from 'Silent Running' were written by Diane Lampert (lyrics) and Peter Shickele (music). They are "Rejoice in the Sun', and 'Silent Running'. I loved these songs myself, but have not found them to be on any album. I think there was a soundtrack out, but have not seen it. You could always take them off of the video or DVD. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:11:30 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #385 In a message dated 12/15/01 3:05:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << P.S. By the way, I must confess guiltily to always having been CONVINCED that Joni wrote "The Same Situation" for Jack Nicholson. However, there is, indeed, no evidence that I'm aware of that these two were ever anything other than good friends. Shucks. >> I always thought it was Warren Beatty (tethered to a ringing telephone) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:24:41 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: colors and sound Synethsesia. - -Yael At 05:06 PM 12/14/01 -0500, you wrote: >- -- This is a very common phenomenon, and since I'm days behind on the >digests, I'm sure you've already gotten responses, Sherelle. They even have >a name for it -- for the experience of perceiving or associating one kind of >perception, say a color, with a musical note, or warmth/coldness, or even a >taste. But i can't for the life of me remember the technical term. I'm sure >someone else on the list will remember. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: RE: Come in from the cold (NJC) I suppose it is all relative Wah dear bro... feeling the cold here in Hamilton and the temps are not 'that' bad yet...we are situated on Lake Ontario and are only a block away from the bay. The coldest place I've lived is Winterpeg Manitoba (Winnipeg). I walked in -50/60 one winter and THAT was cold !!! sending you warm hugs Magsula - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > that's my girl, pitassi! but you're being unfair to madrid. it can be > bitterly bitterly cold there too. snow is not so common, though. > kakki, put on your bikini and make believe you're in buenos aires in > early > spring. if we run out into the parks and start sunbathing as soon as > the > temperature hits the 40's, you can do it too, child! > wally > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Mary > E. > Pitassi > Enviado el: Viernes, 14 de Diciembre de 2001 11:02 a.m. > Para: joni@smoe.org > CC: KakkiB@worldnet.att.net > Asunto: Come in from the cold (NJC) > > --And I walked TWENTY-SIX MILES TO SCHOOL IN A BLIZZARD, too!! ;-) > > P.S. This reminds me a little of my year in Madrid, Spain in the > early > 80's. > It was 55 degrees F in January, and I was delighted!!! On the other > hand, > my > very good friend from La Jolla barely came out of her room. ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:36:59 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: harold and maude NJC Billy asked: >Question #1. >Since there are no music credits in the movie "Harold And Maude," can anyone >list the Cat Stevens songs that were used? >I know I'm missing at least one (see below), and I'm not really sure about >some of the others. >1. "Trouble" >2. "I Wish, I Wish" >3. "I Think I See The Light" >4. "If You Want To Sing Out, Sing Out" >5. "On The Road To Findout" (not really sure)? >6. "Miles From Nowhere" (not really sure)? >maybe "Don't Be Shy" and "Where Do The Children Play?" Yay my favorite movie!! I hope I'm not answering this after someone else has - I'm on digest so its hard to tell... Anyhow, I am not sure offhand which you are missing - except that one when they are all at a funeral and Maude walks off with a yellow umbrella while everyone else is drab in black. I don't know what song that is. ' But the movie opens with Don't Be Shy and indeed, Where Do the Children Play comes out when Harold and Maude are in the field of daisies. And yes, On the Road to Find Out and Miles from Nowhere are both there too! A soundtrack was never released but a good place for several of the songs is Cat Steven's greatest hits 2 (it has a picture of a cliff and a moon on the front), and also Mona Bone Jakon has a few. Yay Cat. - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:41:25 -0000 From: "owen.duff" Subject: RE:CMIARS I have a bit of a soft spot for CMIARS also, I think My Secret Place is a great tune, and I love The Beat Of Black Wings. However, I think Im easy on it because I relate it to a certain time in my life , and I can kinda see there are grounds for disliking/dismissing it. Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:45:20 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: 3 Questions -NJC << Question #3. In the musical "Godspell" does anyone know of a reference to Laura Nyro (in either the movie or stage version)? >> Does Nyro fiddle while Rome burns? ;~D Seriously, that's a good trivia question. I love Schwartz's songs for that show, I'll dig into that one. If you go to Cat Stevens home page, you should be able to find the track listing for the Harold & Maude soundtrack LP. I looked it up one time for Yael. Where are you anyway, Yael? (end) Thanks for the information, Professor Muller :-) I'm totally unfamiliar with "Godspell" but I remember several years ago a co-worker (supposedly into musical theatre) told me about this so-called 'reference' to Laura, and I've wondered about it ever since. Regarding my Cat Stevens question, I didn't think there was a "Harold & Maude" soundtrack, but---as usual---you were right. Went to catstevens.com as you instructed, and lo-and-behold there it was. Supposedly a very rare import. I might add however, that of the the twelve tracks listed I know of several that definitely were not used in the film. Additionally, the brief synopsis there mentions that two tracks from the film remained deleted from that soundtrack until his "Footsteps, G-hits Vol. 2" was finally released years later. So I'm still left wondering specifically which two tracks they're talking about. How very confusing! Grateful, but still somewhat baffled... Billy np---"Mona Bone Jakon" by Cat Stevens ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:45:53 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: 3 Questions -NJC Steve, Thank you so much for the information regarding my Joan Baez query. At least I know the song titles now. I agree---those songs are lovely and should be released (again?). XXXOOO, Billy Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (rly-yg01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.1]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYG56-1215095909; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:59:09 -0500 Received: from webshield.milwaukee.tec.wi.us (webshield.milwaukee.tec.wi.us [148.8.60.32]) by rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG13-1215095848; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:58:48 -0500 Received: FROM mail.milwaukee.tec.wi.us BY webshield.milwaukee.tec.wi.us ; Sat Dec 15 08:59:24 2001 -0600 Received: from polifkas.matc.edu ([148.8.99.100]) by mail.milwaukee.tec.wi.us (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26878 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:58:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c18578$d7084e20$64630894@matc.edu> From: "Steve Polifka" To: Subject: Questions NJC Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:57:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain >Billy wrote: >I have 3 questions that have been driving me bonkers for the longest time >now. If anyone knows the answers, I'd be ever so grateful. >Question #2. >What were the Joan Baez songs used in the movie "Silent Running" and what >album can I find them on? Maybe the box set? >Thanks a bunch, >Billy Billy, The songs from 'Silent Running' were written by Diane Lampert (lyrics) and Peter Shickele (music). They are "Rejoice in the Sun', and 'Silent Running'. I loved these songs myself, but have not found them to be on any album. I think there was a soundtrack out, but have not seen it. You could always take them off of the video or DVD. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:30:44 -0000 From: "Alan Larson" Subject: NJC Tea for the Tillerman You forgot my favorite one. "Bring tea for the tillerman, steak for the sun. Wine for the woman who made the rains come. Seagulls sing their hearts away... While the sinners sin, the children play. Oh Lord, watch em play, on that happy day... Oh, that happy day." Pretty close except for that Lord line, lol A great movie. Hilarious suicide attempts. Love the ending. alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:50:12 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Sounds as colors, etc. (njc) Not only that, it is the guy who first played steve in Die-nasty. Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/15/01 6:12:18 AM, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > > << I recently noticed that what i assumed to be a tree is actually a man! >> > > I hate when that happens. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 14:01:02 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)Rimbaud: Colorvowels and Party-Dude :-) WallyKai said <> (referring to our discussions of hearing sounds as colors, etc.) I found the poem: (translated from French) A black, E white, I red, U green, O blue: vowels, some day i will tell of the births that may be yours. I, purples, coughed-up blood, laughter of beautiful lips in anger or penitent drunkeness. Party on, Rimbaud! (who is more fun than Rambo). Enjoy the penitent drunkeness, but you might wanna see a doctor about that coughing-up stuff. Feelin' sorta mauve today, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:28:21 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni in strange places This wasn't from a Bentley Little book per chance? I'm reading "The Association" and found this: (the main character just found a mutilated, dead cat in his mailbox.. so he is a tad upset) p.66 "......He sorted through his vinyl and put on an old Joni Mitchell record, staring out at the view. There was something about those folkies of the late sixties/early seventies that complemented nature, that understood the rural lifestyle. There was a wistfulness in the music as well, a tinge of melancholy that somehow bridged the hopes of that era with the reality of today and subtly pointed out the disparity. This was music that spoke to him. (get ready for the slam, folks) Of course,Joni Mitchell herself was no longer the Joni Mitchell of those early albums. The last time he'd seen her,on VH1 on one of those charity concerts,she'd been droning on in a cigarette-ravaged voice,stopping in midsong to lecture the crowd for not paying close enough attention to her lyrics.` She'd seemed angry and bitter,a far cry from the open,giggly young woman captured on the live MILES OF AISLES,and it had been depressing and dispiriting to realize how much times and people changed. With the music on,his creative energy returned........ What has this guy been smoking? I realize it is only fiction.....but he should at least get his facts straight. And did you notice it's VINYL not cd's because it's cooler to say vinyl. IMO, this guy is a mediocre writer at best. But he does sell a lot of books?? (my sister loaned me this book, I didn't buy it) I guess he didn't hear the 2000:BOth Sides Now.......her voice is exquisite!!! NP:You've changed.............you are not the angel I once knew Bree >"......She put on an old Joni Mitchell tape and lay on he sofa with the >lights turned off.......The next song was slower and in a minor key, filled >with high notes that the singer hadn't been able to hit for years. How >awful >it must be, Anne though, to have once had a voice like that, to hear your >young self constantly on the radio, and know you would never be able to >sing >that way again. > > Anne had read that the singer didn't care. She smoked cigarettes and >painted and did other things. Anne rewound the tape and listened again from >the beginning." > >+++++ > >Of course, we know it's fiction because Joni isn't played constantly on the >radio. > >The author has her characters playing Joni tapes a few more times >throughout >the book, (don't know why they never use CDs), and I can ever recall a book >where Joni was used to illustrate a mood. > >MG _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:35:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Joni in strange places Dear Bree.... Just you wait untii you hear Joni's voice now..at the Hommage in Toronto in October, she treated us to a sampling of seven of her songs and omgggg she is brilliant and sang from her soul. Not a dry eye in the house...some real treasures in store for us...tonnes to look forward to. Again, to hear her playing the piano again was unbelievable and so special. love, Mags npimh: less than week ;-) - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > This wasn't from a Bentley Little book per chance? I'm reading "The > Association" and found this: > > (the main character just found a mutilated, dead cat in his mailbox.. > so he > is a tad upset) > > p.66 > "......He sorted through his vinyl and put on an old Joni Mitchell > record, > staring out at the view. There was something about those folkies of > the > late sixties/early seventies that complemented nature, that > understood the > rural lifestyle. There was a wistfulness in the music as well, a > tinge of > melancholy that somehow bridged the hopes of that era with the > reality of > today and subtly pointed out the disparity. > > This was music that spoke to him. > > (get ready for the slam, folks) > > Of course,Joni Mitchell herself was no longer the Joni Mitchell of > those > early albums. The last time he'd seen her,on VH1 on one of those > charity > concerts,she'd been droning on in a cigarette-ravaged voice,stopping > in > midsong to lecture the crowd for not paying close enough attention to > her > lyrics.` She'd seemed angry and bitter,a far cry from the open,giggly > young > woman captured on the live MILES OF AISLES,and it had been depressing > and > dispiriting to realize how much times and people changed. > > With the music on,his creative energy returned........ > > What has this guy been smoking? I realize it is only fiction.....but > he > should at least get his facts straight. And did you notice it's > VINYL not > cd's because it's cooler to say vinyl. IMO, this guy is a mediocre > writer > at best. But he does sell a lot of books?? (my sister loaned me > this book, > I didn't buy it) > > I guess he didn't hear the 2000:BOth Sides Now.......her voice is > exquisite!!! > > NP:You've changed.............you are not the angel I once knew > > Bree > > > > > >"......She put on an old Joni Mitchell tape and lay on he sofa with > the > >lights turned off.......The next song was slower and in a minor key, > filled > >with high notes that the singer hadn't been able to hit for years. > How > >awful > >it must be, Anne though, to have once had a voice like that, to hear > your > >young self constantly on the radio, and know you would never be able > to > >sing > >that way again. > > > > Anne had read that the singer didn't care. She smoked > cigarettes and > >painted and did other things. Anne rewound the tape and listened > again from > >the beginning." > > > >+++++ > > > >Of course, we know it's fiction because Joni isn't played constantly > on the > >radio. > > > >The author has her characters playing Joni tapes a few more times > >throughout > >the book, (don't know why they never use CDs), and I can ever recall > a book > >where Joni was used to illustrate a mood. > > > >MG > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:48:12 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Vanilla Sky & Joni! do you know which painting it was? peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 14:38:12 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc) How hollywood works... (content warning) Hi gang, A friend of mine turned me on to this site -- it's supposedly a real exchange between two producers (to Americans, their names and the shows the refer to may be familiar). Goes a long way to explain the sorry state of the entertainment biz. Wonder to what extent it relates to Joni's feelings about the music biz. Warning: These people are at best rude and profane, and at worst, um, alarming. http://www.well.com/~doctorow/laundry.txt Shivering (it's below 50 in San Francisco!!!), Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:04:31 EST From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: must have masterpieces hello joniphiles ! i'm so enjoying reading the posts on the site. i have noticed there are quite a few new joni listeners out there. for all you novices i would like to say that you should start from the begining with her debut, " songs to a seagull, " and work your way through an incredible 21 album career. ( that includes 2 live albums and " hits " and " misses " ) knowing how long this might take let me suggest what i consider to be 4 must have masterpieces. ( believe me these were hard to choose ! ) those being: " blue," "court and spark," "hejira," and " turbulent indigo." these would be a good start. i think they represent a cross section of her musical progress, a best of her experimentation if you will. eventually you must acquire the entire catalog. ( fortunately i was able to this gradually as each album was released.) let me say i have never heard a joni that i didn't like, if pressed i will reluctanly admit that some have more merit than others, hence the 4 must have masterpieces. if anybody cares to hear my secondary or even tertiary choices i would be glad to oblige. ( i'm an endless font of opinions and ideas ! ) glad to be on board...regards, warren keith p.s. i'm the proud owner of a tape of the BBC " james and joni lovefest " mentioned on the site . it is a cassette recording of an 8-track recording that i made in the early seventies from a radio broadcast. WHEW... not a pristine recording but well worth a listen. if any body is interested let me know the easiest way to exchange it. ( a friend told me he had seen an LP of this, does anyone know anything about this ? ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:45:50 -0500 From: "Marilyn Huggins" Subject: Tapes from Jonifest/Topsfield Does anyone know if the tapes for the Jonifest are ready & if so, where can I order one? Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:58:24 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni in strange places Thanks Mags, for your words......I'm counting the days until her next release. I just love Joni so.......I'm so connected that I hate it when she is slammed. She's part of me and it hurts. Lucky for you that you were able to make it to the Hommage. WOW!! It must have been a thrill!! (before I leave this glorious earth that is a must... to see Joni play the piano again. I have not seen her in person since 1975) BTW, when you talk about your honey boi.....I'm a little envious, but also I'm very happy for you. I've never have found my soul mate........ well, I have, but it is not returned. The love you two have for each other just jumps from your writings. Take care, Bree >Dear Bree.... >Just you wait untii you hear Joni's voice now..at the >Hommage in Toronto in October, she treated us to a >sampling of seven of her songs and omgggg she is >brilliant and sang from her soul. Not a dry eye in the >house...some real treasures in store for us...tonnes to >look forward to. Again, to hear her playing the piano >again was unbelievable and so special. > >love, Mags >npimh: less than > Of course,Joni Mitchell herself was no longer the Joni Mitchell of > > those > > early albums. The last time he'd seen her,on VH1 on one of those > > charity > > concerts,she'd been droning on in a cigarette-ravaged voice,stopping > > in > > midsong to lecture the crowd for not paying close enough attention to > > her > > lyrics.` She'd seemed angry and bitter,a far cry from the open,giggly > > young > > woman captured on the live MILES OF AISLES,and it had been depressing > > > > I guess he didn't hear the 2000:BOth Sides Now.......her voice is > > exquisite!!! > > > > NP:You've changed.............you are not the angel I once knew > > > > Bree > > >with high notes that the singer hadn't been able to hit for years. > > How > > >awful > > >it must be, Anne though, to have once had a voice like that, to hear > > your > > >young self constantly on the radio, and know you would never be able > > to > > >sing > > >that way again. > > > > > > Anne had read that the singer didn't care. She smoked > > cigarettes and > > >painted and did other things. Anne rewound the tape and listened > > again from > > >the beginning." > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >===== >I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do >Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes >Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see >When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through >. >---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) >. >Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of >your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com >or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:11:56 -0800 From: "Johnson Victor" Subject: RE: Vanilla Sky & Joni! ----- do you know which painting it was?peace, david It was one of a forest and lake. I'd have to look at the Mendel Gallery video again to see exactly which one. It's hanging in Tom Cruise's home, and he points it out to Penelope Cruz at a party. It kind of took me by surprise really. Victor --- Johnson Victor--- waytoblu@mindspring.com--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:18:47 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: pics Mags, Besides your writings.... the pics from Jonifest......of you two lovebirds, pouring of love to each other is quite evident too. Have a safe and happy holidays... Bree NP Charlotte Church.......the 15 year old wonderkin with the grown-up voice......JOY TO THE WORLD. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:19:05 EST From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Vanilla sky and joni painting mystery I believe the answer to which painting appeared in the Movie Vanilla sky is a painting entitled: Edmonton, 1996. Mona L. Fitzgerald monafitz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:32:16 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Tapes from Jonifest/Topsfield Hi Marilyn, Yes, if you are referring to the 5-set videos. I ordered mine last week. Contact Ashara, I forgot her e-mail though. I'm sure she will see your request and contact you. Bree >Does anyone know if the tapes for the Jonifest are ready & if so, where can >I >order one? > >Marilyn _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:29:41 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... Everyone: It has been a tradition in my family each year on Christmas EVE to have a trivia contest;as guests arrive or sometime during the evening you mark your answer down to the trivia question. The person that answers correctly gets at the end of the evening the prize. Last year I believe the prize was a Blockbuster gift certificate. So, I would like to do this with my ON-LINE family. I'm feeling a little like Santa today and might add.... looking like him. I will ship and send to anywhere in the world. PRIZE: ESTER PRICE candy. The best candy you can get in the southern Ohio, Northern,Kentucky area. (and the best candy I've ever had the pleasure of pigging out on) AND a collectors coin from the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. (A ten dollar silver piece) (I won a bunch of them a few years ago) The FIRST person to e-mail me with the correct answer wins. Good Luck!! Question:Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married on a farm outside of Mansfield,Ohio. The FARM was owned by a famous author:NAME HIM and you win the prizes. (this author and Bogart were very good friends) GO............... Bree _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:10:21 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... In a message dated 12/15/01 6:30:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Question:Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married on a farm outside of > Mansfield,Ohio. The FARM was owned by a famous author:NAME HIM and you win > the prizes. (this author and Bogart were very good friends) > > GO............... > > Louis Bromfield Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:28:28 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... Correct one! Congrats,Mark!!! Sorry, Paul you were a very close second. Mark send me your address off-list. And do you prefer all light or dark or a mixture of chocolate. Bree >From: Mark Domyancich >To: Bree Mcdonough >Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to >answer.... Correct one! >Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:08:54 -0600 > >Louis Bromfield! Now I remember! He wrote a short story in one of my lit >books in high school, and in the bio it mentioned this marriage at his >farm. > >Mark > > > From: "Bree Mcdonough" > > Reply-To: "Bree Mcdonough" > > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:29:41 -0800 > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to >answer.... > > > > Everyone: > > > > It has been a tradition in my family each year on Christmas EVE to have >a > > trivia contest;as guests arrive or sometime during the evening you mark >your > > answer down to the trivia question. The person that answers correctly >gets > > at the end of the evening the prize. Last year I believe the prize was >a > > Blockbuster gift certificate. > > > > So, I would like to do this with my ON-LINE family. I'm feeling a little > > like Santa today and might add.... looking like him. I will ship and >send > > to anywhere in the world. > > > > PRIZE: ESTER PRICE candy. The best candy you can get in the southern >Ohio, > > Northern,Kentucky area. (and the best candy I've ever had the pleasure >of > > pigging out on) AND a collectors coin from the Hard Rock Casino in Las > > Vegas. (A ten dollar silver piece) (I won a bunch of them a few years >ago) > > > > > > The FIRST person to e-mail me with the correct answer wins. Good Luck!! > > > > Question:Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married on a farm >outside of > > Mansfield,Ohio. The FARM was owned by a famous author:NAME HIM and you >win > > the prizes. (this author and Bogart were very good friends) > > > > GO............... > > > > Bree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:30:31 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... Corr... In a message dated 12/15/01 7:29:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Congrats,Mark!!! Sorry, Paul you were a very close second. Mark send me > your address off-list. And do you prefer all light or dark or a mixture of > chocolate. > > Bree Darn! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:23:51 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... Louis Bromfield Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Win a lovely box of chocolates!! Just be the first one to answer.... > In a message dated 12/15/01 6:30:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Question:Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married on a farm outside of > > Mansfield,Ohio. The FARM was owned by a famous author:NAME HIM and you win > > the prizes. (this author and Bogart were very good friends) > > > > GO............... > > > > > > Louis Bromfield > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:43:37 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Chat Room Is the Chat Room no longer operational? I've tried a couple of nights recently to no avail - just a big ole grey box. W t S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 20:01:16 EST From: EVRIBUTJON@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #595 Hi Everybody, I think I am a little late on the discussion of DED but I wanted to put my 2 cents in. I think "The Three Great Stimulants" boasts one of the best melodies Joni has ever written. I prefer her doing it on just the guitar without all the adornment. I also love "Dog Eat Dog" but wish she would have recorded it the way she did it at Farm Aid. Years ago I gave a singer/actor friend of mine the album and he ended up putting "Shiny Toys" in his act. He said that her vocals on it were just so wonderfully expressive. Joni said in an interview that she wished Aretha Franklin would have recorded "Lucky Girl" and I agree. That would be something to hear. And just for the record, my favorite all time Joni's are For The Roses and Hejira. John ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #596 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?