From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #568 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 1 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 568 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: riddle??njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Today's Articles: November 30 [les@jmdl.com] Today in Joni History: November 30 [les@jmdl.com] Re: riddle??njc [Scott and Jody ] Re: Singer/songwriters (Rachel Bissex) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies ["Kakki" ] Harry Potter NJC [colin ] Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies [RoseMJoy@aol.com] NJC Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies [colin ] There are places I remember.... [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Harry Potter NJC [Reuben3rd@aol.com] George Harrison [YORK48CAD@aol.com] George Harrison njc [YORK48CAD@aol.com] Ryan Adams website NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) [Leslie Mixon ] Re: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) ["gene mock" ] George Harrison sjc [Lazyasz@aol.com] Cheap DED [Tyler Hewitt ] George NJC [Tyler Hewitt ] All things must pass website njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Harry Potter NJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Another Beatle has left us (NJC) [] George Harrison, NJC [] Re: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) [dsk ] Re: George Harrison sjc [Murphycopy@aol.com] George Harrison njc [Randy Remote ] FTR on Elektra -- how come? [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Harry Potter NJC [colin ] Re: George Harrison sjc [colin ] RE: George Harrison sjc [Lazyasz@aol.com] Re: Revisited ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: George Harrison sjc [Murphycopy@aol.com] George Harrison; Jim's birthday; Brian's birthday and "Brei" and "boi" (VLJC) ["Timothy Spong" ] Re: an apology njc ["mack watson-bush" ] abundance ["marianne marianne" ] Fw: 20% Off Rickie Lee Jones -- This Weekend Only! njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Harry Potter NJC [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: abundance - Joni in public places [Merk54@aol.com] RE: an apology ["Wally Kairuz" ] Big Blue Moon [RoseMJoy@aol.com] RE: Big Blue Moon ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Big Blue Moon ["Johnson Victor" ] Re: Big Blue Moon [RoseMJoy@aol.com] AIR Joni [Rick and Susan ] Beatle George, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Big Blue Moon [Les Irvin ] urge for going, some JC, long ["Alan Larson" ] need urgent cat advice njc [evian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:23:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: riddle??njc wow... that was so hard! i couldn't figure it out! how could kindergarten kids get it? do i qualify for a degree from stanford? does jody go back to KG? wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Scott and Jody Enviado el: Viernes, 30 de Noviembre de 2001 04:20 a.m. Para: gene mock CC: joni Asunto: Re: riddle??njc > What is greater than God, > More evil than the devil, > The poor have it, > The rich need it, > And if you eat it, you'll die? > The answer is Nothing......Do I win something? ;~) jody ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:23:09 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: November 30 On November 30 these articles were published: 1985: "Joni Mitchell" - New Musical Express (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/851130nme.cfm 1998: "Eric, Joni, Others In Homeless Benefit" - Billboard (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981130b.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 651 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:23:09 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: November 30 On November 30 in Joni Mitchell History: 1981: Joni hosts a jam session at her New York apartment with Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker, Bobby Mintzer, Don Alias and Peter Erskine. It was the night before Jaco's 30th Birthday Concert and they were running through some of the music. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:07:35 -0500 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: riddle??njc > wow... that was so hard! i couldn't figure it out! how could kindergarten > kids get it? do i qualify for a degree from stanford? does jody go back to > KG? > wallyK > > I've just been hanging out with 3 and 6 year old kids lately. They must have rubbed off on me. jody ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:01:11 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Singer/songwriters (Rachel Bissex) Steve steve@psitech.com posted Rachel Bissex's jonipost from the Folk Venue list >> she spoke to my generation in a way no one else did at that time. >> With poetry, passion, and just plain good music. Rachel was on the Folktrain to the Vancouver FA in February and played several songs at our impromtu on-board jonifest (which started in Saskatoooooon!) - I seem to remember she did a beautiful version of Tin Angel and others - and was there to the end (around 3am) with Gregg Cagno and myself, after everyone else had drifted off. She played us a song she had just learnt, written by her friend, Louise Taylor, called 'Blue Norther' - stunning! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 04:12:20 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies the first reports are being broadcast ... GEORGE HARRISON died earlier tonight of cancer (1:30 am in L.A.). i don't know what else to say. - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:09:56 -0800 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: George Harrison (1943-2001) njc My Sweet Lord (George Harrison) My sweet lord Hm, my lord Hm, my lord I really want to see you Really want to be with you Really want to see you lord But it takes so long, my lord My sweet lord Hm, my lord Hm, my lord I really want to know you Really want to go with you Really want to show you lord That it won't take long, my lord (hallelujah) My sweet lord (hallelujah) Hm, my lord (hallelujah) My sweet lord (hallelujah) I really want to see you Really want to see you Really want to see you, lord Really want to see you, lord But it takes so long, my lord (hallelujah) My sweet lord (hallelujah) Hm, my lord (hallelujah) My, my, my lord (hallelujah) I really want to know you (hallelujah) Really want to go with you (hallelujah) Really want to show you lord (aaah) That it won't take long, my lord (hallelujah) Hmm (hallelujah) My sweet lord (hallelujah) My, my, lord (hallelujah) Hm, my lord (hare krishna) My, my, my lord (hare krishna) Oh hm, my sweet lord (krishna, krishna) Oh-uuh-uh (hare hare) Now, I really want to see you (hare rama) Really want to be with you (hare rama) Really want to see you lord (aaah) But it takes so long, my lord (hallelujah) Hm, my lord (hallelujah) My, my, my lord (hare krishna) My sweet lord (hare krishna) My sweet lord (krishna krishna) My lord (hare hare) Hm, hm (Gurur Brahma) Hm, hm (Gurur Vishnu) Hm, hm (Gurur Devo) Hm, hm (Maheshwara) My sweet lord (Gurur Sakshaat) My sweet lord (Parabrahma) My, my, my lord (Tasmayi Shree) My, my, my, my lord (Guruve Namah) My sweet lord (Hare Rama) [fade:] (hare krishna) My sweet lord (hare krishna) My sweet lord (krishna krishna) My lord (hare hare) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:11:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies I just logged on and saw the news. Rest in peace dear George. It's hard to believe. Paul may have been the cute one but it was George who was my first crush. Thanks simon and Julius for the tribute. > the first reports are being broadcast ... > > GEORGE HARRISON died earlier tonight of cancer (1:30 am in L.A.). > > > i don't know what else to say. > > > ------- > simon > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:31:22 +0000 From: colin Subject: Harry Potter NJC I saw Harry Potter and The Philosophers Stone last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. However, would children really be able to sit thru almost 2 and a half hours for this? It looked just like the book. It was amazingly well done. However, the children's acting could have been better, more natural. That is a complaint I always have about British child actors. American ones that i see are so good! So natural. I am just amazed they can act like that. The boy from 6th sense being a very good example. Gernally those on american tv shows etc are really good. bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:09:56 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies In a message dated 11/30/01 4:12:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, simon@icu.com writes: > GEORGE HARRISON died earlier tonight of cancer (1:30 am in L.A.). > > > i don't know what else to say. > > > A BIG BOO HOO :~( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:01:45 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies <> George was a great talent, sadly overshadowed for most of his career. Sure, he was famous and made a lot of money, but probably never got the recognition he truly deserved. Ironic, isn't it? Paul's death was the rumor 30 years ago, and now he may very well be the last to go. "When I'm 64"... I was just reading the Lennon interviews in the Music issue of the Vanity Fair last night, and was saddened to read John talking about what he'd be like at 70. Maybe John & George can get down to some collaborations, now that their spirits have re-joined. It's gray, chilly, and rainy here in Greenville. Appropriate. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:13:31 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: NJC Re: SAD News ~ George Harrison Dies > Maybe John & George can get down to some collaborations, now that their spirits have re-joined. sure they can. > > > It's gray, chilly, and rainy here in Greenville. Appropriate. we must be near neighbours..... > > > Bob - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:18:37 -0000 From: "owen.duff" Subject: Re: What I'd like for Christmas + Question about Geffens Here in the U.K it seems that the only HDCD remastered discs are Song To A Seagull through to Blue, then Miles of Aisles, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, and Shadows and Light, which are imported from America (and are a lot more expensive). To add to the confusion, 'Court and Spark' (which sounds terrible!) is often sold with an HDCD sticker on the front, but is actually just the old transfer (with a sticker on the front). Terrible really. I can't fathom why there are different versions for different countries - surely it would be easier to have one version the world over. Oh well. Speaking of audio quality, I have a coupla questions myself: Does anyone have the DVD-A version of Both Sides Now? I can imagine the orchestra sounds pretty amazing in 5.1 surround! Also, is there a DCC disc of Court and Spark (I know there was a vinyl audiophile pressing)? And finally, is it worth me replacing my Joni discs with HDCD versions from CDNow.com or whatever? I'm pretty into having the best sound qualiy, but I'm also a poor student, so I don't want to waste my money! Ciao for now, O ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:32:15 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: George We were talking - about the space between us all And the people - who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion Never glimpse the truth - then it's far too late - when they pass away. We were talking - about the love we all could share - when we find it To try our best to hold it there - with our love With our love - we could save the world - if they only knew. Try to realise it's all within yourself no-one else can make you change And to see you're really only very small, and life flows on within you and without you. We were talking - about the love that's gone so cold and the people, Who gain the world and lose their soul - they don't know - they can't see - are you one of them? When you've seen beyond yourself - then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there - And the time will come when you see we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you. George Harrison Within You Without You ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:38:48 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: There are places I remember.... My fondest memory of George was in 1971 when he organized the concert for the refugees of Bangla-Desh. And then there was those Traveling Wilburys....... My brother Richard and I picked up this hippie hitchhiker (Robert) from Colorado (yeah, we can upon a child of God) He was tall, long blonde hair and blue eyed. Not too bad on the eye. Rob ended up renting an apartment in an old victorian house not far from where we lived. We met again one day and he became a very good friend to me. Was this fate? I would bring over my Joni albums to play and I remember him saying one day after listening to Blue that he thought that something had happened to Joni for which she just couldn't handle. He knew how much I loved Harrison and surprised me one day with tickets to the Bangla Desh concert at MSG in NYC. There are some people who have touched and made an impact on my life in some way and Rob was one of these people. Then there are those whose lives touched the hearts of humanity and George was one of these people. It's rainy and cloudy here in NJ as well Bob and a Blue Moon tonight. Very appropriate indeed. My I Ching tells me today; the king has attained abundance. be not be sad . be like the miday sun. "Every soul is potentially divine and the goal is to manifest that divinity." - -- George Harrison Rose is blue in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:49:01 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC This was my only complaint about the film, too, Colin. The boy playing Ron Weasley was terrific, but the Harry and (particularly) Hermione were stiff and wooden. Too bad, but the film was great! I loved it...Alan Rickman was deliciously evil. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:21:39 EST From: YORK48CAD@aol.com Subject: George Harrison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:26:43 EST From: YORK48CAD@aol.com Subject: George Harrison njc Well.....we are crying our eyes out this morning. Such an early passing for a wonderful songwriter and musician....I guess it's true that only the good die young. On a funnier note...I typed in ryanadams.com and got a sight that was Gay skiing in the french alps....nothing about music...is this the same guy??? "Life is what causes death" George Harrison Peace to all, Julie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:34:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Ryan Adams website NJC <> No, Julie...try www.ryan-adams.com Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:23:51 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) I wish George Harrison happy trails as he makes his way across the universe. I'm sure Wally Breese will interview him once he makes it past the pearly gates, and get Joni content while he's at it. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:25:44 -0800 (PST) From: "L. R. Fye" Subject: My mom ... ... passed away about an hour and a half ago. Thanks to all of you for your support and prayers. I'll be going to Ohio soon, and will be in touch when I can. Love to all of you, Lori http://www.geocities.com/lrfye/ohio/queenida.jpg ~ Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:02:57 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) amen !!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Mixon" To: "Joni List" Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) > I wish George Harrison happy trails as he makes his way across the universe. > > I'm sure Wally Breese will interview him once he makes it past the > pearly gates, and get Joni content while he's at it. > > Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:06:59 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC Yes Alan Rickman was good as were Richard Harris and Maggie Smith and Zoe Wanamaker(sp?). I love Zoe and particularly her voice. Robbie Coltrane was excellent and I am still wondering how they got him to look so huge. I know he is a lrge man but in the film he was several feet larger! Reuben3rd@aol.com wrote: > This was my only complaint about the film, too, Colin. The boy playing Ron Weasley was terrific, but the Harry and (particularly) Hermione were stiff and wooden. Too bad, but the film was great! I loved it...Alan Rickman was deliciously evil. > > Reuben - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:08:21 EST From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: George Harrison sjc Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup They slither while they pass They slip away across the universe Pools of sorrow waves of joy are drifting thorough my open mind Possessing and caressing me Jai guru deva om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes That call me on and on across the universe Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they tumble blindly as they make their way across the universe Jai guru deva om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Sounds of laughter shades of life are ringing through my open ears inciting and inviting me Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns It calls me on and on across the universe Jai guru deva om Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Jai guru deva Jai guru deva Good by, sir... PS: Noting that GH was a life-long smoker how has Joni thus far managed to avoid LC?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:20:26 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: Cheap DED Geffen released quite a few of their midline back catalog at lower than usual prices a few years ago. The wonderful ' Born to Laugh at Tornadoes' by Was (Not Was) (possibly the funniest rock record ever made) and the even more wonderful 'The Big Express' by XTC were part of this price structure as well. The XTC back catalog have all been remastered and rerelesed, (and The Big Express is one of the most improved) so there's hope for the Joni as well. And as long as were on the subject, DED is my FAVORITE of the '80's Joni cd's. If I had to pick one as (almost) unlistenable, it would be Chalk Mark ... Tyler RE: Well, there are two schools of thought, I suppose...if you look at Amazon.com, basically Joni's entire catalogue is priced from $12 to $15 EXCEPT for DED which is priced at $6.97. That's $7 for a brand-new, unsealed CD. Whether we like it or not, it's obviously a turkey in terms of sales. Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: George NJC I was checking my e-mail this morning and saw on Yahoo news that George Harrison had died. I was sadder than I expected to be, and was sitting at the computer feeling crummy when my partner walked into the room. "George Harrison died" I told him. His reply: "I guess we're one step closer to a Beatles reunion!" In poor taste? maybe, but I did feel better afterwards! Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:34:32 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: All things must pass website njc go to the website, they've updated it. Wait and watch what appears after the song " My Sweet Lord'' is finished http://www.allthingsmustpass.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:54:02 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC Colin asks: "However, would children really be able to sit thru almost 2 and a half hours for this?" To answer your question, it probably depends on the age of the children. My daughter just turned 12, and she has read all the books and has been looking forward to the movie since she first heard it was being made - much like her mother I might add. I took her to see it last weekend, and the length was not a problem at all. In fact, she went back to see it the very next day with one of her friends. I can see that a much younger child, say 7 or 8, would get restless during such a long film. But then, I suspect children that young are not as avid fans of the books either. I don't think any of the books are less than 300 pages long, and that takes a bit of an attention span. I agree with you that the film is wonderful. It looks just as I imagined it, and the cast is absolutely perfect. Alan Rickman IS Snape, and Richard Harris was born to play Dumbledore. I thought the kids were great, and the one who plays Ron is indeed a real standout. The little girl is a living doll, and I predict great things for her future - she was a bit stiff, but then so is Hermione. One thing that has puzzled me that I haven't seen explained completely is why the name change from the U.K. to the States? Does the word philosopher have some different connotation to the British that Americans just wouldn't get? I know there are enough British listmembers that surely someone can explain it to me. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:04:28 +0600 (CST) From: Subject: Another Beatle has left us (NJC) Rest in peace, George Harrison: died today at age 58, in Los Angeles. Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:12:03 +0600 (CST) From: Subject: George Harrison, NJC Oops--his death was yesterday, not today. Not unexpected, but still sad. Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:51:51 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Across The Universe - Goodbye George (NJC) Leslie Mixon wrote: > > I wish George Harrison happy trails as he makes his way across the universe. Me too. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/30/obituaries/30HARR-WEB.html?pagewanted=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:50:23 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: George Harrison The Beatles changed the world, and George Harrison changed the Beatles. He introduced them to the music of Bob Dylan, and kept playing Dylan's first LP until they got it. (Dylan, in turn, gave the Beatles their first taste of marijuana, which brought new dimension to their music). George brought Indian music to the attention of the Beatles, spreading it's popularity worldwide. He got them into meditation, brought them to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's ashram in India for an extended stay, where most of the white album was written. George and John were the first Beatles to take LSD, unknowingly dosed by a friend. They brought the psychedelic experience into the musical mix. George's guitar playing is very often underrated because he was able to keep his ego in check and play exactly what was needed for a song, nothing less and nothing more. The pre-chorus riff in "Help!" is a good example of a really difficult passage. Eric Clapton has praised his guitarmanship, pointing out that George invented and perfected a whole style of slide playing. Carl Perkins sat in amazement, on the "Carl Perkins and Friends" concert film as George played one of Perkins songs, creating an echo effect with his playing, explaining that, as a youth, he didn't know about echo chambers, so he learned how to play it that way listening to the radio. George's "Concert For Bangla Desh" , to aid starving famine victims was the blueprint for Live Aid, Farm Aid, and subsequent benifit concerts. Frank Sinatra called "Something" the greatest love song of our time. George's Joni connection (and our local connection here in Mendocino County) was his use of guitarist Robben Ford (LA Express). Recommended listening: All Things Must Pass George Harrison (1979) Cloud Nine Your Love Is Forever (1979) Sublime is the summertime, warm and lazy... These are perfect days like Heaven's about here But unlike summer came and went- You love is forever, I feel it and my heart knows That we share it together. Resigned to the wintertimes cold and dreary Peering into fire flames, burning I know That unlike winter came and went You love is forever I feel it and my heart knows That we share it together I feel it and my heart knows you're the one The guiding light in all your love shines on The only lover worth it all Your love is forever. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:50:31 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: George Harrison sjc In a message dated 11/30/01 12:10:01 PM, Lazyasz@aol.com writes: << PS: Noting that GH was a life-long smoker how has Joni thus far managed to avoid LC?? >> This is perhaps the most ignorant and careless thought I have ever read here on the JMDL. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:28:53 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: George Harrison njc The BBC news website has lots of good stuff on George. http://news.bbc.co.uk/default.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:05:17 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: FTR on Elektra -- how come? Hi, all, I had a quick question -- I thought all of JM's releases were on Reprise, Asylum, or Geffen -- but I've got a For the Roses that came *without lyrics inside* that was on Elektra -- in other words, a cheepee? Did Elektra buy out some of her catalog at one point or what? I don't have a good business head, nor do I keep up with corporate mergers and buyouts. Is there an easy explanation? Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:24:32 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC > One thing that has puzzled me that I haven't seen explained completely is > why the name change from the U.K. to the States? Does the word philosopher > have some different connotation to the British that Americans just wouldn't > get? I know there are enough British listmembers that surely someone can > explain it to me. quite simply the American distributers/makers/producers or whatever assume the American public is stupid and wouldn't understand the word Philosopher. > > > Sybil > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:29:56 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: George Harrison sjc Not all smokers die from it. In fact only 11%. Yet the proportion of people who get some form of cancer is 33 1/3%. There is a huge propaganda machine about smoking and most of it is crap. No it isn't a good idea to smoke but smoking does NOT equal death. I think perhaps the energy put into anti smoking attitudes would be better spent on pollution but then we all like our electricity, gas, cars, planes and trains don't we and they of course don't harm any of us. Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/30/01 12:10:01 PM, Lazyasz@aol.com writes: > > << PS: Noting that GH was a life-long smoker how has Joni thus far managed to > avoid LC?? >> > > This is perhaps the most ignorant and careless thought I have ever read here > on the JMDL. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:20:55 EST From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: RE: George Harrison sjc Sorry if my statement was misunderstood or taken off the cuff. I rescind it! Peace & Deeper Understanding Damien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:38:01 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Revisited Welcome,"redmist". You mentioned >>>"Blue", "For the Roses" and "Court & Spark" and even the uneven "Miles of Aisles" I love those albums too. Since you are already familiar with "Judgment of the Moon And Stars", you might also like her extended piano/orchestral piece called "Paprika Plains" on "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter". The extremely personal lyrics of "Blue" are evident on what many here think is her finest hour, an album called "Hejira". The jazzy parts of "Court And Spark" were later fleshed out in "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns". In fact, her jazz singing was never better than on "Mingus" which was enthusiastically welcomed by Leonard Feather of "downbeat Magazine". Joni sings some standards of the 40s on "Both Sides Now" with a huge orchestra replete with audiophile-grade recording. Where live performances are concerned, I think that "Shadows And Light" is beyond comparison; it's even available as a video on VHS and DVD (in high quality stereo) and includes my favorite guitar solo ever captured on mag tape. In short, redmist, "there's **MORE** where that came from"!! Lama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:41:54 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: George Harrison sjc In a message dated 11/30/01 7:22:37 PM, Lazyasz@aol.com writes: << Peace & Deeper Understanding >> I am sorry for my vehement, knee-jerk reaction to speculation about why Joni has not become sick from cigarette smoking. I wish I had expressed myself differently, or at least thought about my post a bit more before hitting send. Peace and deeper understanding sounds like a wonderful idea to me. Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 01:06:40 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: George Harrison; Jim's birthday; Brian's birthday and "Brei" and "boi" (VLJC) I. I trust all on this list, and Joni herself, join me in mourning the passing of George Harrison at age 58, yesterday, 29 Nov. 2001. II. A belated happy birthday to Jim, and thanks to him for maintaining the site. III. An even more belated birthday to Brian. In her own public greetings to him, his wife uses the spellings "Brei" and "boi." Now, I suppose "Brei" is a phonetic rending of the first syllable of "Brian" -- if it were spelled "Bri" or "Brie," others might read it and pronounce it mentally (or aloud) as "bree." But what is the significance of spelling "boy" as "boi"? This inquiring mind wants to know. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:51:45 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: an apology I am so so so SO sorry if the virus that I unwittingly unleashed caused any grief to people on JMDL. It came from an innocuous looking email from the kennel we use when we go out of town. There was nothing on the subject line to clue me in so I opened the attachment. Big mistake. I really do know better. Luckily for us, our computer was in the shop for some problems relating to installation of Windows XP. I was using the old computer when the virus was sent. It is now turned off and temporarily moth-balled. But until today when the main computer came home, I have been offline. Again, my most heartfelt and humble apologies to any of you that this blasted thing might have infected. I really don't know what else to say. I'll go sit in the corner for awhile.... Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:51:47 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: an apology njc Hey Mark. It caused me major grief but that could of happened to anyone. Not your fault. Don't fret. And get out of the corner. Mack > I am so so so SO sorry if the virus that I unwittingly unleashed > caused any grief to people on JMDL. It came from an innocuous looking > email from the kennel we use when we go out of town. There was > nothing on the subject line to clue me in so I opened the attachment. > Big mistake. I really do know better. Luckily for us, our computer > was in the shop for some problems relating to installation of Windows > XP. I was using the old computer when the virus was sent. It is now > turned off and temporarily moth-balled. But until today when the main > computer came home, I have been offline. > > Again, my most heartfelt and humble apologies to any of you that this > blasted thing might have infected. I really don't know what else to > say. I'll go sit in the corner for awhile.... > > Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:47:04 -0500 From: "marianne marianne" Subject: abundance I walked into my friendly cooperative food market ( called Abundance food coop,in Rochester NY, member owned, vegetarian and natural foods) and oh to my surprise they were playing joni Mitchell. . . Court and Spark tape. Oh what a rush. There's something about hearing a joni Mithchell song when you're not expecting it. there is something about hearing joni in public. . . help me explain this friends. . . hearing joni unexpected is like a drug. hearing joni in public, when someone else put her on . . . fills my body and soul. hearing joni unexpected is like swirling with patterns of flowers and, oh. . . I am just free associating here. Y'all know what I am talking about? Hi everyone!!!!!! Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:48:41 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Fw: 20% Off Rickie Lee Jones -- This Weekend Only! njc To anybody who might be interested in the upcoming RLJ release or who might want to fill out their Rickie Lee collection, here is a small offering of repentance from your much chagrined virus spreader: > > CDNOW is proud to announce the release of Rickie Lee Jones' "Live at Red > Rocks" -- on sale for 20% off at CDNOW. Plus, you'll save 20% on every > domestic (U.S.) Rickie Lee Jones title in the store. It's all part of a > special weekend-only sale, going on Friday, November 30, 2001 through > Monday, December 3, 2001. > > Choose from "Flying Cowboys" ($9.58), "It's Like This" ($14.38), "Naked > Songs" ($9.58), and more at great prices! > > To save 20% on all Rickie Lee Jones titles at CDNOW, go to: > > http://cdw01.cdnow.com/Click?q=bc-zkZJQ6BJunE6yZ0moKiNcEIDgsRR > > CDNOW's Rickie Lee Jones Sale ends Monday, December 3, 2001 at 11:59 a.m., > EST. Shop today and save! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:10:29 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC I saw Zoe Wannamaker play Amanda in "The Glass Menagerie" in London about 5 years ago...she was amazing. It was nice to see her in something again. And you're right about her voice: its the best this side of Bette Davis. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:24:42 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: abundance - Joni in public places Marianne, I know what you mean about the thrill of hearing Joni in public places. A while back, I was in a Wendy's of all places, when what came pouring out of the speakers... Edith and the Kingpin!!! Best damn chicken sandwich I've ever eaten!! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 01:25:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: an apology dearest mark, no need to apologize, baby. it could happen to anyone. love, wallushka ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:35:34 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Big Blue Moon Once in a while In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Go look at your eyes they're full of moon And the lonely loon and the crescent moon Does the moon play only silver When it strums the galaxy Beware of the power of moons Can you think of any more instances where Joni gives reference to the moon in her lyrics? without looking now )( ~rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 01:38:32 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Big Blue Moon "moon at the window'' - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de RoseMJoy@aol.com Enviado el: Sabado, 01 de Diciembre de 2001 01:36 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Big Blue Moon Once in a while In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Go look at your eyes they're full of moon And the lonely loon and the crescent moon Does the moon play only silver When it strums the galaxy Beware of the power of moons Can you think of any more instances where Joni gives reference to the moon in her lyrics? without looking now )( ~rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:51:24 -0800 From: "Johnson Victor" Subject: RE: Big Blue Moon > Can you think of any more instances where Joni gives reference to the moon in > her lyrics? without looking now )( Born, with the moon in Cancer... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:55:51 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Blue Moon very good, keep going there's about 20 or so more ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:36:38 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: AIR Joni I have to preface the Joni content by saying that, in the high school band I formed with my two best friends, The Beatles were the force that sustained us through the rough adolescent years. I shared my feelings with them this morning and in the reply from the one who became a recording engineer there was this little footnote: >On a brighter note. Apparently this coming Monday, Joni is going into AIR to >start work on her next project with Geoff Foster. I'll get more details when I >talk with my friend in London. AIR is Sir George Martin's London studio, where she recorded Both Sides Now. I don't know who Geoff Foster is. Anyone? More details to come I hope. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:54:39 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Beatle George, njc Rest well, brother George. Thanks for the Light while you were given it to share. I will miss you. Say "hello" to John for me. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:05:11 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Big Blue Moon At 11/30/2001 09:55 PM, RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >very good, keep going there's about 20 or so more Let's see... she mentions "moon" in: Moon in the Mirror Moon At The Window The Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's Tune) Night Ride Home You're My Thrill Willy The Last Time I Saw Richard Talk To Me Night In The City Love Puts On A New Face Love or Money Little Green Lakota Impossible Dreamer Come In From The Cold A Melody In Your Name The Jungle Line Taming the Tiger Songs to Aging Children Refuge of the Roads Paprika Plains No Apologies I Had A King Hejira For The Roses Facelift Don't Interrupt The SorrowDon't Interrupt The Sorrow Carey Both Sides, Now A Strange Boy Les - who wonders if using the search engine is cheating... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:06:36 -0000 From: "Alan Larson" Subject: urge for going, some JC, long well, it's that time of the year again... when the "meadow leaves are turnin brown... summertime is a fallin down..". and here we go again... i glow inwardly after reading the internet reviewer who compared david wilcox to james taylor stylistically and to my man bruce cockburn in the intensity of his lyrical images... close seconds to joni in that arena... would love to see joni and bruce, david and bruce, david and joni, or, gasp, all three? collaborate... oh well... my congratulations to Rob Ettridge of the UK, he came up with the name of the song Joan Armatrading played in homicide life on the street... "sometimes i don't wanna go home"... and is the OFFICIAL winner of the 69 dollar question... thanks Rob...you brits are really quite a fine bunch... the best... as for the story about joan's sometimes lackluster performances, well, what can you say? i once saw a lady named beverly spaulding play a rather uninspired folk/rock/jazz set at a place in Venice Beach called the Taurus Inn... and as she was putting up her sax, i plugged in jt's How Sweet It Is on the jukebox ...and soon the joint was jumpin', she pulled out her horn, and everyone was dancing, gettin up on tables...singing... and the smiles were on everyone's faces. she came up afterward, introduced herself, and thanked me for putting on that song... it was the perfect encore... would love to see a tom waits video of a scene like that... or joni the inspiration just isn't always there... even for the professionals watched an espn special about Len Bias today, along with the news of George's death, and this week's death of a gal i had such a crush on in high school who ended up getting MS...lead me into thinking about the cycles of things and such... somehow The Urge for Going is a comfort... and i am thankful i am still healthy...my thoughts still very much with the victims of the attacks, and the firefighters and rescue teams... choices for people are never easy, even if it seems like you have everything going for you, like Len Bias, or Phil Ochs, or Jim Croce. and we're fighting our own demons. it's the inexplicable ones, like Payne Stewart or Reggie Lewis, that leave us shaking our heads... or Billie Holiday Phil Ochs once said that his song Crucifixion..."it might be about Jesus, it might be about JFK, maybe even Dylan." I'll just end with an image of one of the most memorable scenes in 20th century cinema, and arguably the finest work of American literature ever... Henry Fonda, as Tom Joad, explaining to his Ma that he don't know where he's going, but "maybe it's like we're all just a little piece of one big Soul." and a community like the jmdl is proof of that... as was George's belief in mysticism... "and we wait for a new dawn parade"...phil delurking more tangentially, yet with feeling, i hope alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:39:30 -0600 From: evian Subject: need urgent cat advice njc Hi Listas, Sorry to take up list space with this, but I need advice from you cat experts. I got home tonight and my cat is horribly sick. Actually, she hasn't been herself for a few days, but she didn't come upstairs at all tonight, so I went and found her in the basement and she's skin and bones suddenly, and she's puked 3 times and doesn't want to be held, and then she peed on the floor and is lying in the corner, and of course I can't find any damn cat illness websites.... so, if anyone is still up and knows anything about cat illnesses (no, I don't think she got into any poisons or anything out of the ordinary), or knows any good cat sites, could you email them to me? I'll take her in to the vet at 8, but we still got 7 hours until then..... Thanks, Evian ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #568 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?