From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #565 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 28 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 565 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Foreign Policy Therapist /njc [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Wow (njc) [FredNow@aol.com] Sting(k) (NJC) ["Ron Greer" ] RE: Ph.D (NJC) ["Mary E. Pitassi" ] thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!! [Brian Gross ] Re: Geroge Harrison (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] CSNY tour dates! (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Geroge Harrison (NJC) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Tori's version of River ["Kate Bennett" ] no chemo (njc) [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: no chemo (njc) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: no chemo (njc) [AsharaJM@aol.com] ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] RE: no chemo (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] anne njc ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Mary Gauthier NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Winter Joni ["William Waddell" ] Re: NJC Boz Scaggs ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: Winter Joni [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: River as Message From America ad theme [Gary Zack ] Re: Winter Joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! [Mark Domyancich ] Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! [Michael Paz ] Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC ["Kakki" << Mikey looked up and said "Hi > Sting!" and he just glared at him and said nothing. >> > >What an asshole. At any given moment, everyone is an asshole to someone. Everyone. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:28:17 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: Sting(k) (NJC) Hi >>Kate wrote >>Michael Paz, that is a very disappointing story about Sting. Do you think it could be that he didn't even hear your son say hi? You know, musicians loosing their hearing & especially men loosing their ability to hear the higher frequencies, etc...<< i cant remember the source now - but i have heard that sting was suffering from hearing problems. the accountant i used to work for in cape town had a number of rich foreign clients with holiday homes (insert picture of huge mansion with marble etc hanging off a mountainside with stunning views of beach/ocean as feature in "interiors" maazzine). one of these clients was a friend of sting, who used to use his house when holidaying in cape town. my friend met sting during one of these trips, and was very impressed with him. ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:38:23 -0600 From: "Mary E. Pitassi" Subject: RE: Ph.D (NJC) Mike Pritchard in Barcelona wrote: "Some years ago when I was searching around for a topic for my Ph. D. I considered doing Joni Mitchell's songs. My idea was not greeted with any enthusiasm by anyone in the faculty, nor any other academic I spoke to. Because there is an Anglo-Canadian link in the faculty here in the University of Barcelona I decided to see if anyone in Canadian universities would be more helpful. I only got one response (from a great JM fan) and this was luke-warm to say the least. It was suggested that the songs alone were not sufficient as a base for a Ph. D. but perhaps something more 'sociological' would be possible. In the end I chose a different subject but my heart is not really into it and I am thinking of getting back to my original idea." Hi, Mike. I don't want to discourage you, but I've got to tell you that this sort of reaction is one reason why I finally said my good-byes to the field of literature (I was a graduate student in English and American lit. for 3 years before hanging it up and heading to law school). There is such a division between "high art" and "low art," and never the twain shall meet, it seems. One clarifying moment for me came when I was preparing for a graduate seminar in 20th-century American lit. one afternoon in my apartment, and I realized that the tape I had on for background music, Bruce Springsteen's _Nebraska_, captured the themes and ideas of the course in a far more memorable and artistically valid way than did any work I was reading for it. I packed up my bags not long after that. I may not be doing anything approaching "high art" now, but: 1) I have absolutely no pretensions that I am doing so, and 2) I am making a living! Back to you: maybe "shorter, academic work" is the answer, as might be a shorter work completely outside the auspices of your program that you might shop around to independent magazines outside the strict confines of academia. The latter would put more onus on you, because it would obviously require you to take time away from your program. On the other hand, you could utilize the skills your program is teaching you to do something you love. A third option would be plugging Joni's songs into some larger sociological or other theory of what was going on in the times, perhaps alongside the work of other songwriters or popular artists of that era. This was hinted at by the Canadian academic you contacted. However, for those who love Joni's lyrics simply for what they are, rather than as part of some schema into which they may fit only imperfectly, this option might be less satisfying than just leaving the lyrics alone. In all, please keep us posted on what you decide. And best of luck! Being a good Catholic dissenter, I certainly respect all those who stay within a difficult system to try to change it. Take care, Mary P. in Madison, WI, USA P.S. Mike, you might have mentioned it already, but what field will your Ph.D be in? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:07:52 -0500 From: Brian Gross Subject: thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!! I want to say thank you to all of my very special friends here on the list. This was the absolutely BEST birthday EVER!!!!!!!!! Mags REALLY REALLY REALLY loves me!!! So much music (Garnet Rogers (we saw him live on Fri nite), CSN and S&G cds (thank you uncle John!), Tears of a Thousand Years!) So many beautiful pieces of art!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my fecking gawdddddddd!!!!! Thank you for all your wonderful wishes everyone Thank you, thank you, thank you With all my heart Hugs for everyone, Brei np: The Life of Cleo - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:33:54 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Geroge Harrison (NJC) I am sorry to report that George Harrison is losing his battle against brain cancer as reported by Abcnews.com. London's Sunday People tabloid reported this weekend that the former Beatle may have only a week to live. Citing a family friend, the paper said Harrison's wife Olivia and their son Dhani have been told he could slip away "at any time." Harrison has even lost interest in eating, the paper said. The report also indicated that Paul and Ringo visited George at the hospital. "So sad, so sad, sometimes it seems so sad...." Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:41:17 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Geroge Harrison (NJC) "Give me love, give me love Give me peace on earth Give me light, give me life Keep me free from birth Give me hope, help me cope With this heavy load Trying to touch and reach you With heart and soul." George Harrison a beautiful man and songwriter, I am very sad he is struggling so and wish him peace and love... Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:52:51 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: CSNY tour dates! (njc) Feb. 06 - Detroit, Palace of Auburn Hills (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 07 - Columbus, Nationwide Arena (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 10 - Grand Rapids, Van Andel Arena (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 12 - Toronto, Air Canada Centre (On sale: Sat. Dec. 1) Feb. 15 - St. Louis, Savvis Center (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 17 - Chicago, United Center (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 20 - Indianapolis, Conseco Fieldhouse (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 22 - New York, Madison Square Garden (On sale: Mon. Dec. 3) Feb. 25 - Cleveland, Gund Arena (On sale: Sat. Dec. 8) Feb. 28 - Hartford, Civic Center Mar. 02 - Boston, Fleet Center (On sale: Mon. Dec. 3) Mar. 05 - Philadelphia, First Union Center Mar. 06 - Pittsburgh, Mellon Arena Mar. 08 - Washington, DC, MCI Center Mar. 11 - Milwaukee, Bradley Center Mar. 12 - Minneapolis, Target Center Mar. 26 - Phoenix, America West Arena Mar. 27 - San Diego, Sports Arena Mar. 29 - Las Vegas, MGM Grand Garden Arena Mar. 30 - Anaheim, Arrowhead Pond Apr. 01 - Los Angeles, Staples Center Apr. 04 - Oakland, Arena Apr. 05 - San Jose, Compaq Center at San Jose Apr. 08 - Denver, Pepsi Center Apr. 13 - Miami, National Car Rental Center Apr. 14 - Tampa, Ice Palace Apr. 17 - Atlanta, Philips Arena for more info go to SFX.COM Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:06:33 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Geroge Harrison (NJC) In a message dated 11/27/01 11:44:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: > "Give me love, give me love > Give me peace on earth > Give me light, give me life > Keep me free from birth > Give me hope, help me cope > With this heavy load > Trying to touch and reach you > With heart and soul." > > George Harrison > > > a beautiful man and songwriter, I am very sad he is struggling so and wish > him peace and love... > > Victor > > Very sadenned by this news. He is my favorite. Beautiful person indeed. rose in nj NP: Wah-Wah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:26:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Tori's version of River http://www.teamforcecams.org/hereinmyhead/ For some reason, I paid much attention to Tori in my life, but her version of River is stunning...thanks Bob & Stephanie! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 27 Nov 2001 11:36:01 -0800 From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: no chemo (njc) Yup. The subject says it all. "The princess" (my oncologist) says "no chemo." I don't go back until April! Yay! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:52:23 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: no chemo (njc) In a message dated 11/27/01 2:37:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > "The princess" (my oncologist) says "no chemo." I don't go back until April! > > Yay! > SUPER!!!! Thanks Annie for sharing the good news! You've made this otherwise grey day a little more brighter love you muchly, Rose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:27:22 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: no chemo (njc) YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:51:26 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! "Fests Thrill" (To the tune of Sex Kills) by Bob Muller I almost had a bad attack Things didn't seem quite right I thought about the Jonifests And it was SO nice The fests are SO nice Smothered in joy and fun Music swells from everywhere, Great food for everyone And the laughs leak And the drinks spill And fests are everything Fests thrill! The JMDL cast, well they're such a blast, And the hugs bury you like an avalanche And folks come from all around, From Holland, New Zealand, the UK & France! Ashara's the chief it's her stern belief that Things don't come undone, crazy people You can feel it throughout the place, Everyone loves everyone! Though the joints creak, And the trash fills Fests are everything, Fests thrill! All these jackoffs 'round the piano, The smokers on the deck From the first big "Hi's" to the sad goodbyes, Then you're packin', sad as heck You're flying through the ozone, Missing all your Joni kin, But you know, come another year It all can start again! Though the tears streak, Next year's datebook fills, And fests are everything, FESTS THRILL!! ANNOUNCING.............. THE 5th Annual NORTHEAST BACK TO THE GARDEN JONIFEST!!!!!! WHEN: Friday, August 23, through Monday, August 26, 2002 WHERE: The Full Moon Alternative Resort and Conference Center, Oliverea, NY WHAT: LOTS of live music (mostly Joni), Joni sing-a-longs, a chance to connect with JMDL friends old and new, giveaways galore, and much, much more! THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION: There are a limited number of beds available, (around 65) and they will be offered on a first-come, first served basis, according to when your deposit is received. There is also ample camping available, and the least expensive accomodation. If it is important to you to have a bed as opposed to a camp site, please send your deposit in right away! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WHAT YOU NEED TO DO Every year there is an "admission fee" which is a way for us to help support both jmdl.com and JoniMitchell.com To reserve your spot at the party, you will need 3 things: *NOTE* THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!! 1. A nonrefundable donation in ANY amount, checks payable to LES IRVIN, and sent to me at: (You can also do this through Paypal) Ashara Productions, LLC 40 Parsonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 USA This year, your donation benefits the jmdl.com website. Les has recently been laid off from his job, and now, more than ever, these funds are needed to keep the website going. Please be as generous as you can. (Each year, the donations are alternated between Jonimitchell.com and jmdl.com.) 2. The completed questionnaire by e-mail. NO ONE will be admitted without the questionnaire completely filled out! **This incudes partners that may be attending with you.** 3. Your hard copy release form and nonrefundable $100 deposit, payable to: Ashara Productions, LLC and sent to the above address. The remainder will be due by June 15, 2002. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE NORTHEAST BACK TO THE GARDEN MAILING LIST If you would like to be on the separate mailing list for the Northeast Back to the Garden Jonifest, send a blank e-mail message to: NortheastJonifest-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GIVEAWAYS GALORE!!!!!!! The giveaways were SO much fun last year, we are repeating it!! Giveaways? WHAT GIVEAWAYS??? Wonderful goodies from all over the world!! How can you participate? 1. Donate to the giveaways! Please send any and all giveaway items you would like to donate (Joni memorabilia, songbooks, magazine articles, CD's, pictures and artwork of Joni, videos, posters, CD's from our talented JMDLers, David? Fred? Bryan? Claud? Kate? Victor? Paul? Linda? Others?) In short, anything wonderful that would be fun to include. (Please don't send your dirty socks!) 2. One giveaway includes EVERYONE whether you can make it to Jonifest or not in August. EVERY person who sends a donation for Les will be automatically entered to win a prize. (You need not be present to win.) 3. EVERY Jonifest attendee will be eligible for a separate Jonifest-only giveaway! So.....everyone has a chance to win something! If you would like to get in on the fun, and you have any items to donate toward the giveaways, please send them to: Ashara Productions, LLC 40 Parasonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 USA I would love to get as many items ahead of time as possible, so I can sort them and see what we have to offer, and also so I am not taking time at Jonifest itself to organize the giveaways. (Also, so in the future, {Oh, NO! Ashara has an ulterior motive!} I can keep all of you updated to what might be in the giveaways and entice you to send your donations/attend the Jonifest!) ;-) Some of these items will be used towards a raffle to be held during the Fest. Raffle tickets will be $1.00 each, or 6 for $5.00. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For lots more information and the questionnaire, go to: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest2002 or write to me at: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com See you in August!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:55:16 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: no chemo (njc) YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! love you anne!!!!!!!!! wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:58:26 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: anne njc That is great news Anne. Happy day. Have a good one. Love, Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:21:20 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! OH SHRIEKING POSITIVELY SHRIEKING WITH DELIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! ashara productions! way to go, girl! i want a bed, i want a husband, i want a place in the sun. i'll borrow the 100 and send it as soon as i can. it's going to have to be cash because i don't have a bank account in the us so i'm not eligible for paypal. unless i can give it to my friend alejandro in boston. he's visiting for my birthday in late december. i can give him a hundred and he can mail a check to you, ashes. what do you say? can you save a cheap bed for shared with tom selleck even if you have to wait until january to get the check? say yes, honey. wallyK, getting so excited and dizzy with delight and joi de vivre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:27:26 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! > 3. Your hard copy release form and nonrefundable $100 deposit, payable to: > Ashara Productions, LLC and sent to the above address. The remainder will be > due by June 15, 2002. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you get deposits back provided the stuff you rent is in the same condition as when you got it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:26:06 +0100 From: "jan glas" Subject: [none] Hi all, I have two small reasons to do a tiny delurk. Towards the end of today4s ATWT episode, when young love has it4s first share of love-trouble, a beautiful version of CLOUDS was being played to back up the disillusion. I don4t know who the (female) singer was, but she did a good one. A few weeks ago i was staying with a friend in Amsterdam for a few days. Having to sleep on his not too comfortable couch, i was still awake at about 2 am when the upstairs neighbour decided to play BLUE quite loud. It was so good. The couch was suddenly not so bad at all, i must have fallen asleep halfway Blue. Ok folks... Jonimoments in Holland ..take care Jan NP: Moloko-Party Weirdo - ----------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:36:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Mary Gauthier NJC Is an indie artist who I really like. She is from Lousiana & Boston so there is a jmdl connection of sorts! I was just reading her journal about her recent European tour which has some interesting reflections. I especially like how she compares our country as one who is now coming of age. Here is the page: http://www.marygauthier.com/roadnotes.html Promise me that you will go back to hear the music on the intro to her website...it is so beautiful! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:40:47 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Winter Joni I awoke today and found the frost perched on the town. It's years since I lived in Winter. Now of a day, wrapped in layers of black and wool, I stravaig through thick blankets of fallen leaves crunching. The odd crow from tree to tree evoking ... Hejira. That winter album. Whether I'm walking for walking's sake, waiting for a train, or just in absence of music, I find myself running music through my head. Today was the winter of our Miss Discontent. Songs of joy and peace rang round winter chimneys waving. Apply the fire with kindling now, coz Winter is closing in. How oft Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:17:13 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: NJC Boz Scaggs Lowdown is one hell of a song!! I am not a big Boz fan, but Lowdown sure puts me in the mood.. Blair _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:33:27 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Winter Joni In a message dated 11/27/01 6:35:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, willytheshake100@hotmail.com writes: > Apply the fire with kindling now, coz > Winter is closing in. > > Hey Willytheshake! It's good to hear from you. It's been a while. Where are you now? Speaking of winter, we had this little discussion about winter closing in on Sue MacNamara's new "Wanderer" mailing list. Sue had posted the lyrics to Urge For Going, another winter Joni song. I hadn't read it's poetry in so long and well, it really is a beautiful song. Urge For Going by Joni Mitchell I awoke today and found the frost perched on the town It hovered in a frozen sky, then it gobbled summer down When the sun turns traitor cold and all the trees are shivering in a naked row I get the urge for going But I never seem to go I get the urge for going When the meadow grass is turning brown Summertime is falling down and winter is closing in I had me a man in summertime He had summer-colored skin And not another girl in town My darling's heart could win But when the leaves fell on the ground Bully winds came around, pushed them face down in the snow He got the urge for going And I had to let him go He got the urge for going When the meadow grass was turning brown Summertime was falling down and winter was closing in Now the warriors of winter they gave a cold triumphant shout And all that stays is dying and all that lives is camping out See the geese in chevron flight flapping and racing on before the snow They got the urge for going And they got the wings so they can go They get the urge for going When the meadow grass is turning brown Summertime is falling down and winter is closing in ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:38:53 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! In a message dated 11/27/2001 5:28:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark@jmdl.com writes: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but you get deposits back provided the stuff you > rent is in the same condition as when you got it. > I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, Mark, but I am personally guaranteeing Full Moon over $15,000 as per the contract I am signing. I am doing this with the expectation that it will not be a problem to fill the quotas based on the past 4 years worth of Jonifests that have taken place here as well as the "interest form" I sent out several months ago for Jonifest 2002. The full $100 deposit per person goes towards whatever accomodations are selected by that person. If people are allowed to back out at the last minute, I stand to lose a great deal of money. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:48:38 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: River as Message From America ad theme Hi Paul, I believe I just saw the ad you were asking about. They did play River and it was Robert Downey Jr.'s version. I am guessing this is the same one you saw. Regards, Gary IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > > Watching the home team play on CBS just now, I saw an ad urging people to go > to Circuit City next week to record their messages of support to our troops > overseas. > The accompanying music was "River," sung by some guy with a rough voice > somewhere between (but neither) Joe Cocker and Robert Downey Jr. > Any one of you cover specialists recognize that version? > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:49:07 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: no chemo (njc) Anne, you rock! Great news! So glad you don't have to go through that again! Hugs, Mark E. ) > Yup. The subject says it all. > > "The princess" (my oncologist) says "no chemo." I don't go back until April! > > Yay! > > lots of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:53:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Winter Joni << I awoke today and found the frost perched on the town. >> Hiya Willy! I was just thinking about this today, Joni's 'winter' songs. She has them for all seasons, UFG is probably the most obvious, with River not far behind. Why do people categorize River as a Christmas song? Are they just not listening to it? Anyway, I thought about Winter Lady too...and Gift Of The Magi, another unrecorded "winter" song... So, are you now coming out of hibernation for winter? ;~) Bob NP: Elvis Costello & The Mingus Orchestra, "Watching The Detectives" 9/27/01 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:06:48 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 deposit"? That's what I don't understand. Mark > From: AsharaJM@aol.com > Reply-To: AsharaJM@aol.com > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:38:53 EST > To: mark@jmdl.com, joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! > > In a message dated 11/27/2001 5:28:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark@jmdl.com > writes: > > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but you get deposits back provided the stuff you >> rent is in the same condition as when you got it. >> > > I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, Mark, but I am personally > guaranteeing Full Moon over $15,000 as per the contract I am signing. I am > doing this with the expectation that it will not be a problem to fill the > quotas based on the past 4 years worth of Jonifests that have taken place > here as well as the "interest form" I sent out several months ago for > Jonifest 2002. The full $100 deposit per person goes towards whatever > accomodations are selected by that person. If people are allowed to back out > at the last minute, I stand to lose a great deal of money. > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:22:20 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: A blushing Passion Play, and a Hissing Surprise... Hi, all, I was walking to my mailbox about 1/2 mile from my apartment, and was *softly* but audibly singing Passion Play from NRH (anyone who ever heard me sing would applaud the "softly" part -- I do it to avoid scaring animals and small children, and probably plants) when I got to the lines "I am up a sycamore/looking through the leaves/A sinner of some position" just as I passed a man of the cloth. Perfect timing. He probably thought, "Oh great, another sinner singing off key -- I gotta get him for my choir", but apparently he thought the better of it, and just gave me a look. I went into my favorite bookstore, A Clean, Well-Lighted Place For Books, (that's really the name -- other San Franciscans can verify), and went as usual over to the music section. I saw a series of little books -- called Rough Guides -- one of which was called something like "The 100 CDs You Must Have". I had to look to see which Joni album was in it, and ta-da! HoSL! I know there are several jmdlers who particularly like that album (Jim L'H, if I'm not mistaken) -- I do -- but I've never seen it in any "Top 100" kind of list (more often, one sees Blue, C&S or Hejira), so I was pleasantly surprised. (I neglected to check the date on the book or the series of Rough Guides, so this may be old news.) btw, I bought a book in spite of being broke -- it bothered me that I no longer remembered augmented, diminished and suspended chords -- and I *used* to know these things, I used to be able to wing it with/from a fake book -- so I bought a book about basic chord structure (for piano). I miss playing, and in spite of my shaking hands, I'm thinking of trying again. Hell, if Joni can play with Post-Polio, I can play with neuropathy. I hope. :-) warmly, walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!! - --- Brian Gross wrote: > I want to say thank you to all of my very special friends here on the > list. > This was the absolutely BEST birthday EVER!!!!!!!!! > Mags REALLY REALLY REALLY loves me!!! no s*** Sherlock !!! ;-))) it was an absolute pleasure to treat you as well as you deserve to be treated honey boi. Yes indeed a very special thank you to all the bday faieries and angels who were instrumental (pun intended) in helping to make this a special day for Brei. We are ever so grateful for your constant support of us. > > So much music (Garnet Rogers (we saw him live on Fri nite), Garnet Rogers is an amazing artist/musician/performer.. I know y'all would just love him! We now have his whole catalogue...um let's see..yea, Joni content..his big brother Stan (G-d rest his soul) was a huge fan of Joni. And we had the ultimate privilege of meeting Ariel Rogers, all the Stan fans on the list will know who we mean. What a sweet, warm and down to earth woman she is :-))) CSN and > S&G > cds (thank you uncle John!), oh John....you should have seen the reaction to the CDs :-)))) Tears of a Thousand Years!) beautiful CD which y'all can check out on www.tears.com an amazing concert which was in support of Sept 11th. > So many beautiful pieces of art!!!!!!!!!!!! um yea....two beauties for certain ;-P > Oh my fecking gawdddddddd!!!!! > > Thank you for all your wonderful wishes everyone > Thank you, thank you, thank you > With all my heart Pls bear with me...I just HAD to join in the excitement... it was wonderful ... beyond both of our imaginings.. and a welcome reprieve from familial storms of late. much love, Mags and her Brei xo > > Hugs for everyone, > > Brei > > np: The Life of Cleo > -- > After twenty-three years you'd think I could find > A way to let you know somehow > That I want to see your smiling face > Forty-five years from now. > > --Stan Rogers ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:28:45 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #564 - House/BSN Both Sides Now in Life as a House is indeed taken from the 2000 CD of the same name, but some of the lines were taken out, or edited together. Disappointingly, the song (and all the other songs in the soundtrack) are not on the soundtrack CD (it consists of the film's 'background' (someone help me with a better word, there) music, composed by Mark Isham (nice work from Mark, but a full soundtrack CD would have been great). Bryan In a message dated 11/27/01 12:03:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > This topic has probably been discussed at length, and if so, I missed > it, and I apologize. > But I just saw Life As A House and the version of BSN.. well, the > wondrous song blew me away. > Was it my imagination are the lines in the movie taken off the track, > but it's not the whole track? or...is it a totally different > recording Joni did? > I loved the movie, by the way, sappy as it was, it touched me, and I > thought some of the acting was great. > Richard in San Francisco > n.p. - Rufus Wainwright:"The Rainbow Crossing" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:56:04 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! > It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 > deposit"? That's what I don't understand. > > Mark > A deposit put down towards a purchase is different from a "rental" deposit which is only intended to cover possible damage to the rental property in question. Kind of like a "good faith" deposit. It's not a trick...simply a commitment to attending Jonifest 2002 which considering the amount of time, effort, and expenses that have been put into it is not that unreasonable to expect. I think it's pretty standard procedure for any kind of planned trip or weekend conference, etc... Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:00:47 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONIFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! << It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 deposit"? That's what I don't understand. >> I don't think the word "deposit" necessarily implies refundable. Obviously if you say "security deposit" or "collateral deposit" then you're talking a different animal. A "non-refundable deposit" defines the type of deposit she's talking about. Further, I might make a deposit in a sperm bank, but I sure as hell don't expect it to be returned! ;~) In any regard, it strikes me as pretty awesome that Ashara would stand to risk fifteen grand for a bunch of yay-hoos like us! Thanks gal, you rock, and so will the fest! Bob NP: Joni, "Cotton Avenue" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:04:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: A blushing Passion Play, and a Hissing Surprise... << "The 100 CDs You Must Have". >> I got that book from Kakki, Walt...it's a fun little read, they do a nice write-up on HOSL. I was actually surprised that I had about half of those records! I'm still working my way through the BIG Rough Guide to Rock that Jeff & Alison gave me...that one covers darn near every record ever made! Bob NP: "Talk to Me" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:46:48 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: CSNY tour dates! (njc) Waaaaaaa No New Orleans date. I am going to speak to friend Steven Stills about this shit. Of course it's a great excuse to go back to Atlanta and see my pal Victor and experience that whole "bed head" thing with Bob ;~) Paz NP-Keb Mo BYT Thanks Bob!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:48:25 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! Stellar! I believe I am pre-paid. Yippppppppppppppppie, I think! Paz on 11/27/01 12:51 PM, AsharaProducLLC@aol.com at AsharaProducLLC@aol.com wrote: "Fests Thrill" (To the tune of Sex Kills) by Bob Muller ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:49:57 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: no chemo (njc) Great news Anne! Now get back to songwriting and playing your guitar and stop worrying you are in good Hands and He must really love you as we all do. Best Love Paz on 11/27/01 11:36 AM, anne@sandstrom.com at anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > Yup. The subject says it all. > > "The princess" (my oncologist) says "no chemo." I don't go back until April! > > Yay! > > lots of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:52:09 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC Reminder that Ryan is on Leno tonight. I contacted his people today to try and get him on jukebox next season. Who is credited as being the first to unleash his madness on this list???? Paz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:48:31 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC In a message dated 11/27/01 11:46:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: > Who is credited as being the first to > unleash his madness on this list???? > That be our webmaster Les ;~) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:00:34 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! It means commitment Mark and we are expecting you to get the feck off your fence post and commit this year dammit. I am tired of seeing your name in the maybe column. Come on dude you could give one of the seminars and teach some of us wannabes some new tricks. BTW the VG will be touring soon. Stay tuned! Paz NP-Leno waiting for Ryan tap tap tap (why do they always put the music at the end and make us suffer thru all this other shite) on 11/27/01 7:56 PM, Victor Johnson at waytoblu@mindspring.com wrote: >> It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 >> deposit"? That's what I don't understand. >> >> Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:01:24 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC That bastard I'll get him for this! Just needed to know who to credit. Thanks Paz on 11/27/01 8:48 PM, RoseMJoy@aol.com at RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/27/01 11:46:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: > > >> Who is credited as being the first to >> unleash his madness on this list???? >> > That be our webmaster Les ;~) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:59:26 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: NJC Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONIFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, I must have confused "deposit" with "security deposit." Excuse me for the brain fart. :) Mark > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:00:47 EST > To: mark@jmdl.com, AsharaJM@aol.com, joni@smoe.org > Subject: NJC Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONIFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! > > << It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 > deposit"? That's what I don't understand. >>> > > I don't think the word "deposit" necessarily implies refundable. Obviously if > you say "security deposit" or "collateral deposit" then you're talking a > different animal. A "non-refundable deposit" defines the type of deposit > she's talking about. > > Further, I might make a deposit in a sperm bank, but I sure as hell don't > expect it to be returned! ;~) > > In any regard, it strikes me as pretty awesome that Ashara would stand to > risk fifteen grand for a bunch of yay-hoos like us! Thanks gal, you rock, and > so will the fest! > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Cotton Avenue" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:02:02 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not calling it a "trick" - I was only confused by what Ashara said in her post. I know the yearly fests are quite an expensive venture to take on. Maybe I should shut my mouth and get back to transcribing, huh? :) Mark > From: "Victor Johnson" > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:56:04 -0500 > To: "Mark Domyancich" > Cc: "joni" > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCING.........JONFEST 2002!!!!!!!!!!! > >> It sounds like a contridiction of terms to me - "nonrefundable $100 >> deposit"? That's what I don't understand. >> >> Mark >> > > A deposit put down towards a purchase is different from a "rental" deposit > which is only intended to cover possible damage to the rental property in > question. Kind of like a "good faith" deposit. It's not a trick...simply a > commitment to attending Jonifest 2002 which considering the amount of time, > effort, and expenses that have been put into it is not that unreasonable to > expect. I think it's pretty standard procedure for any kind of planned > trip or weekend conference, etc... > > Victor > > > > Victor Johnson > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, > Come when you lay down your head. > While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, > That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." > Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:06:13 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Fest questionnaire Just a reminder that when you are filling out the questionnaire, please try to fill out as much as you can right now. The most important questions at the moment are all the ones about accomodations, incuding type of bed, roommate preference, etc. I will be trying to juggle everyone's requests as they come in, and the rooms are limited as far as few private baths, etc. Also, if you choose to pay by Paypal, please remember to add the 5% fee each time you send in a payment. The remainder of the payments can be sent in at any time. If anyone would like to pre-pay more than the required deposit, that would be great. As soon as I receive enough deposits to meet the minimum I need to put down, I can send the money to Full Moon, thus locking in the date. Thanks for all your patience with all the neccessary nit-picky stuff that is is required this year, including the release form, etc. You have no idea the hoops I had to go through to set this up this year, including setting up the LLC. I have been working on this Fest since the week everyone left here last Labor Day. So...I know these forms are one huge pain-the-ass, but a definite necessity. I hope everyone is as excited about this as I am. I "know" Wally is!! LOL!!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:24:03 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC >RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > >> Who is credited as being the first to > >> unleash his madness on this list???? > >That be our webmaster Les ;~) And Paz retorted: >That bastard I'll get him for this! Just needed to know who to credit. I don't think it was me but I'll take the credit anyway! I was just listening to one of his songs - love this verse: I've got sixteen days I've got a bible and a rosary God I wish that you were close to me I owe you an apology Great rhyme - "rosary" and "close to me"... Les - still on the Ryan bandwagon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:40:46 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Ryan Adams with Jay Leno Reminder NJC Thanks Paz for the heads up. I've only read about him and heard his New York song on SNL so far. I like him and want to listen to him some more. There is something refreshing about him. I think maybe Brenda was the first to alert us about him with Les following in fast concurrence ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:59:01 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: blushing&hissing& a mystery mailing (njc) Hi, all, Sorry to bother the list with this, but I got a mailing from Mark or Travis or mark_travis with an attachment that I couldn't open. When I tried to send a message to him/them, it bounced back. The address was familiar, and of course it was in reference to my earlier posting, so I'm not worried about it - -- just curious because I couldn't open the attachment, and then couldn't respond. curious, as always, walt ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #565 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?