From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #537 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 537 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: November 7 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: November 7 [les@jmdl.com] Re: November 7th ["hell" ] Re: a gay thing? njc [Richard Goldman ] happy birthday [] Re: Nutty Commercials (NJC) ["Ron Greer" ] Happy Birthday Joni ["Paul Headon" ] Happy Birthday Joni!!!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] joy askew [bbBear ] Court and Spark [Stephen Pelton Dance Theater ] another shameless WFUV plug [Susan McNamara ] Re: another shameless WFUV plug [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: another shameless WFUV plug [RoseMJoy@aol.com] WFUV interview ["Paul Castle" ] WFUV [Susan McNamara ] RE: WFUV [M.Russell@iaea.org] Re: Emmy Awards - njc [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: a gay thing? njc [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc [Michael Yarbrough ] Happy birthday; court and spark and spoon ["Timothy Spong" ] groovelily njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Nutty Commercials (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Re: groovelily njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] [none] [Bounced Message ] oh my god julie njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Psalm To A Seagull [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Psalm To A Seagull njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] joni interview on wfuv [Alison E ] pricture of Joni [Anne Sandstrom ] raining cards! (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] Hollie Smith (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] ghostly gardens njc ["brian symes" ] Happy Birthday Joni ["brian symes" ] Re: Psalm To A Seagull ["Kakki" ] Re: Psalm To A Seagull [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joni interview on wfuv [JRMCo1@aol.com] Happy Birthday Joni [jmichaelpaz@telocity.com] welcome back NJC ["Stephen Epstein" ] Streisand njc ["mack watson-bush" ] judy, judy, judy. njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Happy birthday; court and spark and spoon ["mack watson-bush" ] joni in local papers ["Wally Kairuz" ] paz's back ["Wally Kairuz" ] listening in ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: amelia/jonifest [Michael Paz ] Re: paz's back [Michael Paz ] Re: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: paz's back [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] John Kelly [Michael Paz ] Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc ["mack watson-bush" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 03:36:32 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: November 7 On November 7 in Joni Mitchell History: 1943: Joni is born in Fort MacLeod, Canada 1965: Tonight Joni performs at The Chess Mate in Detroit - the last of four nights in a row. 1995: Joni plays a surprise show at Greenwich's Village Fez Club in New York, in front of 200 fans, including Chrissie Hynde, Carly Simon, Natalie Merchant and Marc Cohn. The Addicted to Noise website reported: "Carly Simon, glaring at the rather tipsy Hynde, finally got fed up and suggested that Hynde sit down, and if you'll excuse the expression, "shut up." That's all it took. According to eye witnesses, Hynde leaped up, grabbed Simon around the neck, and shoved her to the ground, where she began to pummel her--not once but twice." More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/951109atn.cfm 1996: Joni appearance on the CBS This Morning Show is taped today and broadcast the next day. 1998: Joni performs in Atlanta. Click the link for setlist, Jimdler reviews, and birthday cake More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/981107.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/RoadAgainAtlanta1198.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 03:36:32 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: November 7 On November 7 these articles were published: 1982: "High Spirits Buoy a Joni Mitchell Album" - New York Times (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/821107nyt.cfm 1994: "Special from Newsday" - Newsday (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941107n.cfm 1998: "Mitchell and Dylan, Just Like Old Times" - Washington Post (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981107wp.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 650 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:00:28 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: November 7th I wrote (answering my own post - sinking to new depths of JMDL-addiction): > Happy birthday, Joni. Thanks for everything. > > Boy, does THAT seem inadequate! I thought this deserved elaboration: Thank you for the music, the poetry, the artistry, the paintings, your integrity, your honesty (both emotional and political) and the opportunity to talk with (and meet) so many wonderful people. I feel truly blessed to be here. All thanks to Joni. I feel better now. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 01:31:15 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: a gay thing? njc Everyone loves (or doesn't love) Babs, regardless of their Kinsey 6 (or 'sicks') scale rating. (see http://www.kinseysicks.com) - my fave dragapella quartet, currently at Studio 54 in NYC til March. Catch them while you can. No Joni covers, but... what a NYC weekend: John Kelly at The Fez, and the Kinseys at Studio 54. (I call them the K6...) So...is Babs not a pretty brilliantly gifted beings of this age? All I know right here, right now is: this queer loves Joni Mitchell, and . . .today is her birthday! So... Happy Birthday Joni! Richard in San Francisco n.p. - Liz Story - Solid Colors === >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:34:21 -0600 >From: "mack watson-bush" >Subject: a gay thing? njc > >Rueben wrote: > > >> I have always been curious as to whether or not, as a gay guy, I'd develop >a Barbra thing. > > >Always kind of irks me when I hear people saying things like that. Queer >folks love Barbra and Judy and show tunes. No doubt that many homosexuals >like them but not all. My gay friends don't like any of them. In contrast, >back in high school we would pile into the speech van, or vans depending on >the event, and listen to different music. Everyone loved Barbra and show >tunes and since I have kept up with those folks I can tell you that I was >the only fag in the bunch. Drats! > >Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:13:22 +0100 From: Subject: happy birthday Dear Joni, happy anf more happy birthday . thans for the great emotions that you give me. Angela ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:17:54 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: Re: Nutty Commercials (NJC) hi >>Sybil wrote: >> Don't >> these ad people >> actually listen to the songs before they just stick >> a familliar tune on a >> product? Reminds me of Reagan trying to co-opt >> Bruce's "Born in the USA" >> when he obviously had no clue what the song was >> about its not just ad people - all sorts of people do it. i remember a while back when george michael/wham's "careless whispers" was all the rage here, a work colleague was getting married, and was describing the intended ceremony. he proudly stated that him & his new bride would have their first dance to "careless whispers". he was extremely offended when i burst out laughing, and when i calmed down & tried to explain what the song was all about, he absolutely refused to listen. ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:05:30 -0000 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: Happy Birthday Joni Heres wishing Joni a hapy birthday and many mny many more years to come !! Paul Headon Wales - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 01/11/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:31:37 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Happy Birthday Joni!!!!! Happy Birthday Joan!!!! this must be why the northern lights are on display ;0) NP:WFUV live rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 07:37:54 -0500 From: bbBear Subject: joy askew this is NJC but wanted to ask those listers as well - is anyone going to joy's show this sunday night? patrick? i've lost my address book so i can't contact you directly. barbara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 12:40:57 +0000 From: Stephen Pelton Dance Theater Subject: Court and Spark I'm fairly certain that the phrase "court and spark" is from Truman Capote's "Other Voices, Other Rooms". I don't have a copy on hand, so I can't check on it. He may be quoting something else as well, but I don't think so. SP - -- Stephen Pelton Stephen Pelton Dance Theater www.dnai.com/~peltdanc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:55:57 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: another shameless WFUV plug If you were listening to WFUV, they just said that they were doing the interview at about 8:45 am EST. THANKS. My streaming link is working great, I hope everyone elses is too. take care, sue ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:50:50 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: another shameless WFUV plug This was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Sue, you are AWESOME!!!!!!!!! How cool! You were very articulate and it was interesting, but waaaaaay too short! They mentioned the JMDL as well as Les too! I bet we have some new listers soon. :-) Congrats, Sue!! I hope we get to hear you play at Jonifest 2002 in the Catskills! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:51:42 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: another shameless WFUV plug Suzy, you did real good :~), but what happened to Les? thank you rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:51:51 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: WFUV interview Just heard it loud an clear here in London, Sue - 1.45pm You were absolutely brilliant !! I didn't notice you'd forgotten anything (??) - - so I guess I don't win the prize! very best PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:58:16 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: WFUV OK, so now I'm hoping that we get PILES of hits to the site today after that great PLUG for the Guitar website on WFUV. I'm sorry that they cut out the part where I talked about the other people who helped me start the guitar site including James Leahy!!, LES IRVIN, Howard-Marian-Mark of course!! and all the other wonderful people who have tabs at the site. When she said, "The woman who figured it all out..." that was not me but everyone who had a hand in it. Oh yes and of course her nibs who I hope is having A SPECTACULAR BIRTHDAY!! Love you Joni!! sue PS GREAT RADIO STATION NP "Brilliant Mistake" by another Joni fan...Elvis Costello - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:08:39 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: RE: WFUV Nice work, Sue! It's great that the guitar site got such nice publicity! Marian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:01:03 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Emmy Awards - njc Sort of playing devil's advocate here, but I've never been overly impressed with Babs acting ability, either. Since I've been avidly following pop culture (mid-80's on) Babs has been in string of DOGS that may not put her at Madonna's table, but definitely in the same banquet hall. I could sit through "Who's That Girl", or even the tedious "The Next Best Thing" before I could have another go at "The Mirror Has Two Faces" or "The Prince of Tides", both of which were fine films, but heavy handed and slow. As I said before, I'd be willing to give it a shot, though...I have never purchased (or listened to) a Streisand album. Would "The Way We Were" be a good place to start? Reuben >>Ah. It is her acting ability you admire.................. Jerry ;-)<< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:05:46 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: a gay thing? njc My Streisand comment was written with tougue very firmly in cheek. Sorry that was not conveyed in my original post... Reuben >>I didn't take any offense at what Reuben wrote, I do have to say that Mack has a point here. I've said this before but what the hell I'll say it again. The talent of these two women has a much broader & more universal appeal than just to the gay men of the world. Mark E.<< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:28:30 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Yarbrough Subject: Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc A dreaded me three post. What I love most about Judy is the idiosyncracies--the vulnerable laugh, that flailing arm. If the category is "best entertainer," she is surely very near the top of all time. I'd call her one of the best recorded singers ever as well. - --Michael NP: Aretha, _Young, Gifted and Black_ (IMO THE best recorded singer ever, but y'all knew that already) Mark E. wrote: >>> I certainly would not disagree with you here, Walt. Garland was bursting with talent. She could move an audience in a way that very few can. Great actress, phenomenal singer, she could also practically memorize a dance routine after watching it just once. True genius. And she never had a chance to be anything like happy or normal. Very tragic. ===== ____________________________________________________________ "Greetings cards routinely tell us everybody deserves love. No. Everybody deserves clean water. Not everybody deserves love all the time." - --Zadie Smith, _White Teeth_ Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:36:15 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc Michael Yarbrough wrote: > A dreaded me three post. What I love most about Judy > is the idiosyncracies--the vulnerable laugh, that > flailing arm. If the category is "best entertainer," > she is surely very near the top of all time. I'd call > her one of the best recorded singers ever as well. > > --Michael This huge Babs fan agrees. I only reported that Shirley Jones sang her praises because of her influence on singers in the last 40 years. But Judy has my vote as the greatest entertainer/singer of this century. If you want a real treat, get the remastered dvd's of her television show. They are a magnificent and glorious technical achievement. > > > NP: Aretha, _Young, Gifted and Black_ (IMO THE best > recorded singer ever, but y'all knew that already) And Nina Simone's version is a knockout, too. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 09:55:01 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Happy Birthday, Joan Happy Birthday Joni... Even though we have never met, you've looked into my eyes three or four times from street and stage. You waved and smiled after I yelled "Joni rocks"... You posed so beautifully for me and my camera in Chicago between songs- just for me, with a smile. Thank you for those little moments which touched me so... You know, I don't even know what I'd say to you if we did meet. 'Thank you', or 'I worship the chord structure that you walk upon', 'you are a goddess', 'you rock'... There are no words, really. Maybe I'll just smile and start singing one of your songs and continue to walk by, knowing that we did touch several times, and that's all we needed to do in real time. Maybe, somehow, some way, you know how much you have touched, moved, stimulated, inpired me as an artist and a human being... so maybe it does come down to two words... Thank you... I hope you celebrate your birthday today with friends, family, and music, and that you get your every wish... Hugs, That 'Joni Rocks' guy Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:00:24 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Happy birthday; court and spark and spoon Dear Joni, Happy birthday! Thanks for all the music and poetry and art. Many more of all of the above. Dear fellow list members, Harking back to discussion of the terms at some point in grade school, both "spark" and "spoon" were colloquialisms equivalent to the more formal "court," "courting" and "courtship." A swain would wait on the porch for his innamorata and, to pass the time, whittle wooden spoons. They would then visit on the porch; meanwhile, the young lady's father would be staying up late and, when throwing another log on the fire, sparks would rise up the chimney. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:02:12 +0100 From: "Mario De Tullio" Subject: it's a small world/baroque oboes rule (njc) Beside being an apprentice Joni fan, I like very much baroque music and play baroque oboe. I just received an announcement from the XVII century music association list (see below), concerning some concerts of a renomated oboe performer (Marcel Ponseele) in the US and Canada. To my surprise, the first one (Dec 6) will be in Topsfield, Massachusets! It's definitely a small world! Ashara, if you are planning to attend the concert, please send me your comments on the event! Mario >Reply-To: >From: "Frances Fitch" >Subject: Clarification for "Baroque Oboist in U.S./Can." >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:30:35 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 Marcel Ponseele's concert on Dec. 6 will be at Trinity Church in TOPSFIELD, Massachusetts, which is half an hour north of Boston. >Thanks, > >Frances Fitch > _____________________________________ >> [Original Message] > > Date: 11/6/01 9:09:01 PM >> Subject: Baroque Oboist in U.S./Can. >> >> MARCEL PONSEELE IN BOSTON AND VICTORIA, B.C. >> >> The accomplished Baroque oboist Marcel Ponseele will appear in three North >> American venues next month, with harpsichordist Shalev Ad-El. Ponseele has >> performed with La Petite Bande, the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, and the >> Chapelle Royale, and is also the founder and artistic director of the >> Baroque ensemble Il Gardellino. He and his brother construct oboes on >> eighteenth-century models. >> For biographies of Ponseele and Ad-El see >> http://www.phil.muni.cz/~shalev/ig. >> >> Trinity Church, Boston--evening concert on DEC. 6 >> For more information contact Ms. Fitch at . >> >> Boston University/Longy School of Music--joint master class on DEC. 7 >> For more information, contact Prof. Mark Kroll at . >> >> Victoria, British Columbia, Canada--evening concert on DEC 8 >> For more information contact James Young at _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:16:24 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: amelia tried to send this twice too... Victor wrote >>I love playing Amelia now, maybe more than any other song I've ever played...its just so beeeeauuuttiiiifulllll.<< Meeeee toooooooo!!!!! We just drove out & back to Phoenix this weekend. Wow. What perfect timing as I am gonna play that song Wed night & the song is now INSIDE me after driving through the burning desert & sleeping in a cactus tree motel on the strange pillows of my wanderlust.... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:16:26 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: groovelily njc tried to send this twice: Rose has heard them, Victor knows them...they are fellow indiegrrls of mine (tho I haven't met or heard them yet)...it really is a small world after all...;~}******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:18:38 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Nutty Commercials (NJC) Michael Y. wrote: >Also remember that many people have to be paid to use >a recording in an ad, and if the decontextualized >artists in question retained any songwriting rights, >they agreed to their song's use. To which my buddy Kakki replied: > Also, does anyone know the ultimate outsome of John Fogerty's >long battle with Fantasy Records and Saul Zaentz? Fantasy owned the >rights to most of the CCR albums and may still...The last I knew >Fogerty did not have control over how his songs were used. That's correct - to the best of my knowledge Zaentz still controls the publishing. While Fogerty would get a songwriter's cut from the use of his material, Zaentz can place them wherever he likes. >I think Fortunate Son is not >exactly an anti-war song but rather a protest against how the sons of the >wealthy or powerful rarely served in Vietnam and had ways of getting out of >the draft and service. Good point, Kakki! That's exactly right, I should have run through the other verses in my head..."Some folks born, silver spoon in hand..." etc. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:26:50 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: groovelily njc In a message dated 11/7/01 11:16:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > tried to send this twice: > Rose has heard them, Victor knows them...they are fellow indiegrrls of mine > (tho I haven't met or heard them yet)...it really is a small world after > all...;~}******************************************** > Kate and all Groovelily has free MP3 downloads available on their site www.groovelily.com Gregg Cagno knows loves Groovelily as well. He met them in Vancouver at a folk festival. It certainly is a small world. I bought their new CD Little Light. Just Love it! rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:15:12 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:19:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Julie Z. Webb" Happy Birthday Joni Mitchell: "Have a Seat, David" Suppose new Psalms Might be chosen by me Id partially include The Book of Joni. -Julie Z. Webb, who recently discovered that Jeremiahs NOT a bullfrog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:23:31 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: oh my god julie njc julie julie julie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where are you? wallyK, your long lost brother ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:29:10 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Psalm To A Seagull <> Joni is the muse; I shall not want She leadeth me besides the music She maketh me lie down and examine her lyrics She restoreth my soul. Yea though I walk through the aisles of the record store, I will fear no evil For I know that Joni will be there, She anointest my brain with her truth and beauty, My cup runneth over Surely her music will be with me all the days of my life, And I will dwell in the house of Joni forever! Bob NP: Bush, "Superman" PS: Hey Julie! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:36:05 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Psalm To A Seagull njc LOL!!!!! i will use this one with my prayer group on sunday. wallyK, your brother in joni - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de SCJoniGuy@aol.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 07 de Noviembre de 2001 03:29 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org CC: jzwebb@yahoo.com Asunto: Psalm To A Seagull Joni is the muse; I shall not want ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: joni interview on wfuv for those of you who have been listening to or saw posts about WFUV and joni's birthday... dennis elsis (current dj) said he is going to play an interview he did with joni in the 1980's within the next hour. so for those of you who are listening, keep on keeping on. if you aren't currently listening, dial it up! www.wfuv.org (go to LISTEN LIVE) alison e. in slc np: rem, seven chinese brothers on wfuv. Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:26:05 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: pricture of Joni Shane, thanks for the gallery of Joni pics. And Happy Birthday, Joni! I'm wondering if anyone else has always thought this. I've see the "Alberta tracks" picture before. I recall thinking that Joni looked pregnant in it - and had always attributed it to the fit of the dress. Now, I'm wondering... any thoughts? http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactusjoniphotos.html lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:28:19 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: raining cards! (njc) Every day, I get the mail. And every day there are several cards from JMDL members. You don't know how much this lifts my spirits! Of course, you realize the FBI will be at my door any day now, what with the various international post marks and all :-) Thank you all!!!! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:32:31 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Hollie Smith (njc) I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of Hollie Smith. (I hope I'm spelling Hollie correctly - I can't find the CD - I think I left it at my sister's house...) Anyway, she's from New Zealand (Hell, have you heard of her?). I've been listening to her first and only CD for quite a while now. She certainly has strong Celtic roots. I put her CD with a bunch of my other CDs that I consider "mood music," including some traditional American instrumentals, wildlife and nature sounds mixed with music - that sort of thing. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:42:49 -0800 From: "brian symes" Subject: ghostly gardens njc In a past post about this song a brilliant lister wrote about how Joni must have road past a grave yard in NYC to get to the airport, Thinking transcendentally there are similarities of a city skyline at night and the view of gravestones in a cemetery. Brian Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:07:45 -0800 From: "brian symes" Subject: Happy Birthday Joni Dear Joni since November of 1965 when the chevrons of geese fly over head and your performance at a humble music joint on Livernois and Six miles road. I have had hours of listening to your Music, stimulating the artist and romantic in me, And thank you for also allowing my Daugther Amelia to have "her" song to listen too on the stereo. Happy Birthday Brian Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:34:49 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Psalm To A Seagull LOL Bob - this is brilliant!! You forgot "she maketh me collect and disseminate all her Covers." ;-) HI JULIE!!!! What a great surprise!! This morning on KCRW Nic Harcourt made a special mention of it being Joni's birthday and then went on to play Case of You from the BSN album. He was kind of sighing saying he wished she'd come on his program and then said something like the station manager was trying to phone Joni at that moment. Congratulations to Sue and all for the Guitar Site interview! I wish I could have listened to it but they've banned streaming audio at work because everyone was overloading the server ;-( Happy Joni day to all and best wishes for Kate's tribute tonight! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:26:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Psalm To A Seagull <> How could *I* have forgotten that?!? Those covers probably deserve a Psalm of their own anyway (or maybe Ten Commandments)...I was just glad that my 4th grade Sunday School Teacher made me memorize that 23rd Psalm! :~) Bob NP: Joan Armatrading, "Cool Blue Stole My Heart" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:28:22 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: joni interview on wfuv I'm listening and loving it. Just heard the interview with Joni from November 1985, circa DED. One thing that piqued my interest was Joni saying that "You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)" had its genesis as a drawing Joni did of a radio turning itself on. I'm wondering if anyone's seen said drawing? - -Julius Alison writes: > for those of you who have been listening to or saw > posts about WFUV and joni's birthday... > > dennis elsis (current dj) said he is going to play an > interview he did with joni in the 1980's within the > next hour. so for those of you who are listening, keep > on keeping on. > > if you aren't currently listening, dial it up! > www.wfuv.org (go to LISTEN LIVE) ------------------------------ Date: 7 Nov 2001 13:54:29 -0800 From: jmichaelpaz@telocity.com Subject: Happy Birthday Joni Happy Birthday Joni Mitchell!!!!! And many more. Please keep creating more beauty as we can never have enough of that, especially yours. Hello ALL!!!! I'm baaaaaaaaaack! My head still hurts, but my heart is better. It has been such a long hiatus and I missed you. I managed to skim the digests over this past week or so and try to get up to speed, but it was just too overwhelming. I would like to wish a belated Happy Birthday to everyone that had one between the time I left and today. Also thanks to everyone who has been checking with me via IM's, private emails, and obscene phone calls. My trip to Paris/Monte Carlo was alot of fun. It was a little scary leaving the kids behind with friends and galavanting off to Europe in these troubled times. The whole security thing is a joke. One minute they want to do a cavity search and the next you could smuggle an armoured vehicle. We saw varying degrees of security throughout the trip. We took a train from Nice to Paris and back and were never even asked for our train tickets. Walked right thru the gate to the trains, but had to turn our undies inside out to check the bags in storage lockers at the Nice Train Depot. I was thinking about you guys in Toronto and actually met a very nice couple from there in Monte Carlo and I raised my glass to you. Thanks to all who forwarded their reviews of that experience to me private. I also met some really wild people from Nova Scotia and a wild couple from Kentucky, that we partyed with in Monte Carlo. I performed at the lovely Monte Carlo Grand Hotel (yes the one you see in the Grand Prix) On the final night at the gala farewell dinner in the grand ballroom I accompanied a young lady from Alaska on her version of Me and Bobby McGee, and was the lead singer on Honky Tonk Women, Jumping Jack Flash, and I Saw Her Standing There. On Bobby McGee I played guitar using the local acts guitar and GET THIS VG-88. The guy asked me if I had ever seen one. I didn't have enough french going to let him know that I practically invented the damn thing.LOL! I also played piano almost every night we were in Monaco in the piano bar with a crowd of people we made friends with (yes that's right the alkees). We were pickled the whole time we were there. I have got tons of digital fotos that I am gonna try and post on the foto site as soon as Freda converts them down to a reasonable size for viewing online. Paris was beautiful as usual, but I felt that whole Parisian thing that I have heard so many people talk about, but did not feel the first time I was there. Some of those damn people can be really fecking rude. I won't bore you with the details. Zachary Richard recommended that I go to a Sushi bar near L'Opera called Isse'. He said it was the best sushi he has ever eaten. It was truly amazing and in the middle of Paris. The people were really nice to us and we had a wonderful evening there. It seems like everyone that we met there from somewhere else (but live in Paris) were very warm and hospitable, but the Parisians.....agh!!!!! I went by the place in the Rue de Sommard where I met Julie (from New York) that introduced me to the music of Joni Mitchell. I spent 3 glorius weeks there at the Hotel Wetter (no long gone), but I managed to snap a few pics of the balcony and of the front stoop, where I first hear her play Marcie and Michael From Mountains. Freda was NOT too amused during this little side trip, but I knew she would get over it. We walked the streets of the Latin Quarter where Julie and I use to play and sing real good (for money to get her a plane ticket and a new passport that she had lost, back to the US) and it brought back so many warm memories. Ten days in France and Monaco was just NOT enough, but we did have some great adventures and I guess I better quit now cause this is getting long and I am starting to babble. I hope everyone is doing well and that the times don't have you in it's evil clutches. I continue to pray for better times for us all and that peace will soon reign on this earth. Till then I wish you all strength and love and healing. Michael Paz NP-Blue-JM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:09:50 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: welcome back NJC Michael wrote: "Hello ALL!!!! I'm baaaaaaaaaack! My head still hurts, but my heart is better. It has been such a long hiatus and I missed you. I managed to skim the digests over this past week or so and try to get up to speed, but it was just too overwhelming. I would like to wish a belated Happy Birthday to everyone that had one between the time I left and today. Also thanks to everyone who has been checking with me via IM's, private emails, and obscene phone calls." Welcome home Michael!!!! Great to have you back! Best Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:12:20 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Streisand njc Reuben wrote: but I've never been overly impressed with Babs acting ability, either. Since I've been avidly following pop culture (mid-80's on) Babs has been in string of DOGS that may not put her at Madonna's table, but definitely in the same banquet hall. I could sit through "Who's That Girl", or even the tedious "The Next Best Thing" before I could have another go at "The Mirror Has Two Faces" or "The Prince of Tides", both of which were fine films, but heavy handed and slow. I find Barbra to be a pretty good actress in many films. I thought she had some great moments in both of those films mentioned above but didn't find the films that great either. It always seemed to me, in both of them, that she was trying to go to places but then didn't know just how to get there. I was left feeling kind of empty by both of them. As far as some of her others movies, that is a different story. I found her very good in Nuts and pretty darn good in A Star is Born. As far as The Way We Were, I thought she was absolutely the greatest and Sydney Pollack pulled it out of her. I thought that was an oscar winning performance. She also has a great ability for comedy. I truly enjoyed For Pete's Sake and The Main Event because of her. She is very funny. And how about the last scene of Funny Girl when she sings My Man. Damn. Damn. Damn. Not that is great acting. willing to give it a shot, though...I have never purchased (or listened to) a Streisand album. Would "The Way We Were" be a good place to start? I can't imagine a better place to start Rueben. That album is great from start to finish and Barbra has never been better. As a matter of fact I want to listen to it now just talking about it. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:15:44 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: judy, judy, judy. njc I am not sure where it came from, either the t.v. show or concert footage, but I have a tape of Judy Garland that is narrated by her daughter Lorna Luft. There is a performance there where she sings Old Man River. I get goosebumps every time I watch it and each time I do I must watch it over and over and over again. Not that is talent. Can't imagine anyone ever being better or even close to that. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:17:35 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Happy birthday; court and spark and spoon Thanks Tim. That was a most informative and great post. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:20:37 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: error njc now that is talent in both of those posts instead of not that is talent. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:40:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: joni in local papers joni's birthday was mentioned in local papers -- together with johnny river's. he too is turning 58. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:54:46 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: paz's back hey miguel, hotel wetter??? gee, i should've known you spent time there... welcome back, baby!!! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:10:58 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: listening in I'm listening to it now in London. Really cool!!!! It's the Son's of the Pioneers doing Cool Water! I have never heard this before. Wow! Thanks Sue for the link! Peace Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:15:11 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) After a long, wonderful ride, Holley and I have decided to find our way back to when we were best friends and end our two year relationship. It will certainly be very difficult as we are still very close but is the best thing, somewhat like a Shakespeare in Love scenario but not exactly the same. Neither of us have looked forward to this but in spite of that it feels right and relieves much pressure. "Only love can break your heart..." N.Young Meanwhile, after being virtually jobless all year, getting my health back, making this move, for awhile now I have felt like my back is up against the wall. Although it is very pretty here, all attempts to find even a somewhat decent job have failed and in reality, there are no decent jobs here...I simply haven't found any opportunities. Being already really burned out on Atlanta, and Georgia in general for a long time now, I really feel now that moving to Athens has been more like stepping stone to a larger transition. As I've been spending alot of time by myself, I've been able to think much clearer here and really feel so strongly, the feeling of wanderlust, wanting to travel to new ground, and find a real opportunity somewhere, at least a starting point from which to venture onward from. I am seriously interested in possibly moving to Southern California, or the Boston area. Also perhaps Austin, Texas though I'm not as keen on it. Ultimately though, it will be anywhere I can find a good entry level job opportunity that will offer some stability and allow me to get my feet back on the ground. If anyone has any suggestions, leads, ideas, knows someone who might be looking for help, or can think of any other way to help me make this transition, I will be eternally grateful. In many ways, I feel like I'm lifting a great load of my shoulders, somewhat like Frodo finally destroying the one ring in the mountain of fire. Even being able to get to this point seems like an accomplishment. I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for but as far as my background goes, I have a BA in English Lit, a degree in Audio Engineering, over 8 years of customer service for both private and corporate clients, experience in the various aspects of the music business, excellent written and verbal communication skills...am great at dealing with people and would probably do really well in some type of customer/public relations position. I hope/need to be able to find something in the next couple of months and will keep you posted if anything develops. Thanks for being there and I'm really excited about making a move. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:32:51 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) dear victor, the best of luck!!!!! besides, november will be a great month money-wise for libras, especially on and after novemeber 15, so things are looking up for you. love, wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:31:01 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) Victor, sounds as if this has been a cathartic time for you and somewhat bittersweet also. I wish you the very best of luck and must tell you that Austin, Texas is a great, great city. Can't imagine with that resume having any problem getting a good job in any of those areas. I would move there in an instant if I was able to. Good luck. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:39:47 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) wow, wally, i hope that is true. I could use it. victor, a libra? Must be a great guy. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:53:40 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: november luck (njc) oh yes, he is! and to everybody interested in reading their november horoscopes, go to http://www.astrologyzone.com/ november is full of surprises. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de mack watson-bush Enviado el: Miircoles, 07 de Noviembre de 2001 08:40 p.m. Para: joni Asunto: Re: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) wow, wally, i hope that is true. I could use it. victor, a libra? Must be a great guy. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:46:13 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: amelia/jonifest This is recorded and will soon be distributed. What's up with the artwork Hell? Ashara? I spoke with Les today and he sent out a bunch of the sets from indivdual artists that performed for their approval. Did everyone that wants their set get theirs? Last call before the whole bloody thing is released to the masses. I would be happy to follow up with anyone who did not get a copy of their set. Contact me privately. Peace Michael NP-WFUV Streaming (this station is wild!) on 11/5/01 8:19 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > i was just remembering how great it was to sing amelia with leslie, michael, > claudia, steve p, kate, chuck, etc etc etc. > i can still remember the thrill of being next to the ladies as we did the > vocals. and i got to take my favorite stanza: ''i pulled into the cactus > tree motel...'' > is that on tape??????? > love to you all. > wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:01:26 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: paz's back WallyFacio you salacious old broad. I can always count on you for a laugh. It was a great little joint in 1971. 17 Franc a day with Breakfast (which I usally made it home in time for.) Madame was always rasing her eyebrows up at me when I came in after daylight. Those were the glory days much like Jonifests where there is so much music, love and friendship. Ahhhhhh, Michael NP-The Kennedy's with Roger McGuinn on 12 String WFUV Radio on 11/7/01 2:54 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > hey miguel, > > hotel wetter??? gee, i should've known you spent time there... > welcome back, baby!!! > wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:05:54 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Contemplating Major CHANGE!!!(njc) Victor- Congrats and condolences at the same time. As I recall you were very creative in the New Orleans area. Jobs ain't all that here, but i would certainly help you in any way that I could you know that. The music scene here is very wierd, but if you get in the right click you can play music only and make a great living. Come on over for a weekend and check the waters if you like. Best of luck! Paz on 11/7/01 3:15 PM, Victor Johnson at waytoblu@mindspring.com wrote: > > I am seriously interested in possibly moving to Southern California, or > the Boston area. Also perhaps Austin, Texas though I'm not as keen on it. > Ultimately though, it will be anywhere I can find a good entry level job > opportunity that will offer some stability and allow me to get my feet back > on the ground. If anyone has any suggestions, leads, ideas, knows someone > who might be looking for help, or can think of any other way to help me make > this transition, I will be eternally grateful. In many ways, I feel like > I'm lifting a great load of my shoulders, somewhat like Frodo finally > destroying the one ring in the mountain of fire. Even being able to get to > this point seems like an accomplishment. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:08:19 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Radio They're playing Love or Money (I can't remember which - ha ha) on the radio. Wasn't there a little mini thread about this a couple of days ago? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:14:57 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc Barbra is rumored to be VERY difficult... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:16:20 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: paz's back Welcome back, Michael! You did lots of kissing on Main Street, I suppose? Since you had your family, I know you weren't exactly a free man in Paris... You're always conspicuous in your absence, good to hear you again! Bob NP: Susan Webb, "Same Old Man" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:23:03 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: John Kelly I am thinking of going up to NYC to see this show. One of my VG-8's is co-staring with John in this show. I would like to go before the end of the year. Is anyone else interested in doing a weekend in NYC?? Paz JOHN KELLY'S SHINY HOT NIGHTS: MORE SONGS OF JONI MITCHELL, Fez, 380 Lafayette Street, at Great Jones Street, East Village; (212) 533-2680. There's drag, and then there's transformation through spiritual osmosis, and that's what John Kelly accomplishes with this tribute to the queen of the singer-songwriters. Every blue note, every toss of the golden mane captures Ms. Mitchell's singular aura and communicates why a man like Mr. Kelly would fetishize her persona rather than playing just another variation on Joan Crawford. Magnificent. Tomorrow night at 7; tickets are $20 (Powers). NP-Coyote Live-WFUV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:19:19 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: barbra, greatest perfomer ever? njc Barbra is rumored to be VERY difficult... Have heard a lot of things about Streisand. Would say the important word in that sentence is RUMOURED. mack> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:39:18 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Nathan - VERY X- RATED! This post is only for folks who are not afraid of x-rated words. They're not mine, anyway. There's maybe someone nice behind them. On the other hand he might be not so nice. what do you think?... So - While i was looking for more information about Nathan La Franeer, my eyes fell on what seemed to be an innocent link (www.geocities.com/lafraneer/) - and this strange page showed up on my screen: ********************************************** Nathan La Franeer's Home Page Welcome to my Geocities home page. I am dedicating this site to the celebration of the diversity of human sexuality. I plan to use these pages to share my thoughts and to learn from others. I will eventually include stories, pictures, art, and poetry. I want you to feel comfortable and accepted. Nathan's Topics I think I will use my topics pages to discuss my experiences or opinions about various sexual topics. If you read a topic below, keep in mind that I may be just rambling. I may have a story, or advice. Right now my ideas are a little fuzzy. I hope that organizing them will help me examine myself more closely and help me become better adjusted. I'll maintain the list in alphabetical order. I should notify you here that I am not an expert on any of these topics. If you are, I would love to hear your perspective. If you just want to explore your feelings, go ahead. I suspect that discussing these topics is simply a way for me to purge myself of thoughts and attitudes I have been harboring. Confession is good for the soul, too, I hear. attraction anal sex and anal play bestiality bondage and discipline celibacy dominance and submission facials fetishism group sex heterosexuality homosexuality (male) incest intergenerational sex interracial sex lesbianism masturbation meditation monogamy/polygamy/polyamory/polyandry objectum-sexuality oral sex pedophilia penis size (breast size too?) piercing and play piercing prostitution tantric sex tattooing torture transgendered voluntary slavery watersports ******************************************** That was Nathan's page. It's on the net if you want to read more of this man's ideas. I'm Soooo sorry if by sending this link (and most of what's in it) i've hurt anyone's feelings but it wouldv'e been a sin not to let you know about it - so beside the urge you've just felt to exile me from our Joni circle - what do you think of "Nathan" and the choice he made? Peace, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #537 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?