From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #530 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 1 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 530 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Victor in a coffeehouse, Friday, (sjc) [colin ] Re: Moving Halloween (njc) [colin ] Re: Fame? NJC [colin ] Re: New moon or no? (njc) [colin ] Re: New moon or no? (njc) [colin ] Re: romance NJC [colin ] Re: Fame? NJC [colin ] Re: children's & other books NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] lost children's book NJC [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) ["mack watson-bush" ] Covers #23, Trick or Treat [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] books and more NJC [Yael Harlap ] Re: books and more NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: I hope you saw that (njc) [dsk ] once is not enough (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: once is not enough (NJC) ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: once is not enough (NJC) ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: Keith Jarrett NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:22:25 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Victor in a coffeehouse, Friday, (sjc) Knock em dead, Voctor! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:24:57 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Moving Halloween (njc) I have 6 dogs. Tonight I had EIGHT friggin knocks on the door by children, most of whom couldn't be bpthered to even get dressed. they just held out their hands. I went out befotre the 9th knock and before i I let the dogs have their treats. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:26:57 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Fame? NJC > but I would say that if you don't like Springsteen's vocal, I don't like him but have to say his 'i'm on fotre' is one of the sexiest songs I have ever heard. Not bad considering I usually do not like male singers at all. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:28:31 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > Hey, all, > > On not one but two of the local midday newscasts here in SF today, they > announced that it was full moon for halloween tonight, something that hasn't > happened in 46 or 47 years, depending on who you listen to. Hey you must see the same moon as we do here. it was full here tonight that was for sure. Huge and hanging low in the sky. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:29:37 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > The full moon have you ehard Full Moon Man buy Grace Slcik off her 1980 album Dreams? Lovely song. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:32:02 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: romance NJC In this country they have an annual award for the most awful sex passage in a book. Enter this! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:34:49 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Fame? NJC colin wrote: > > but I would say that if you don't like Springsteen's vocal, > > I don't like him but have to say his 'i'm on fotre' oh dear. I'm On Fire is what i meant. must go to bed now..... > is one of the sexiest songs I have ever heard. Not bad considering I usually do not like male singers at all. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:32:59 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC colin wrote: > Another excellent film. The same man also did Moulin Rouge Haven't seen that one. Gonna have to look it up. Oh and Priscilla Queen of The Desert which was very poorly copied in To > Wong foo which was not that good tho an excellnt performance from Swaze and the > guy who played the little Latino and also from oh shit whatsername from grease? > oh Stockard Channing-realy good actress. Snipes was offensive and just awful. Yes, I forgot about Priscilla. I enjoyed it too. Didn't know Wong Foo was an adaptation. I liked it too, just as well I guess. Thought both were good but not great. Though not a Swayze fan, he did do a good job. Stockard Channing is a prize. I first saw her on t.v. many years ago in a show called "the call most likely to", think that was the title. She was a fat and ugly girl who became beautiful and then killed all the people who had mistreated her for being fat and ugly. It was funny. Have never seen it again. Have to disagree about Wesley though. I usually can't stand him but kind of liked him in that movie. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:39:13 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Jonimentions in the latest Rolling Stone 1. Her birthday is among those listed; 2. Vince's pal Leona Naess is featured in the "New Faces" page. In her Top Five Albums is Joni's "Blue", and here's what she says: "That song 'River' is just unbelievable. At first, you think, "I'm not really sure why she wants to skate across this river", and then there's one line "I made my baby cry". And that's all she has to say." Leona's other Top 4: 1. Sinead O'Connor "The Lion & The Cobra" 2. Bob Dylan, "Blood On The Tracks" 3. Bruce Springsteen, "Nebraska" 4. The Cure, "Disintegration" That rounds out a pretty awesome 5! Bob NP: Red House Painters, "Helicopter" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:39:06 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) Remember the other Jacquie Susann movie, "once is not enough". I thought the book was pretty good, strictly Jacquie. The movie was not that great but I saw it at the theater and remember thinking Alexis Smith was a great bull busting bitch. Then off she went for her lesbian encounter with, wasn't that Melina Mercouri?, her girlfriend. Where I came from that was major taboo and there are the two of them loving and getting it on. I was shocked. Wow!!!!! I remember, though only about 15 or 16 at the time, thinking. Right on girls, good for you. Get it girl, even if I was uncomfortable with the major hush, even in the quiet theater, that came over the crowd. Always thought Jacquie hit it right on with the title of the book. David Janssen, why she was hot for him I will never know or understand, dumping her and said something like we had it once, to which she replied, "but, once is not enough" Found that classic. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:42:21 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: bruce njc I remember when I first found Bruce. It was during those heavy Janis years. He had made the cover of Time I think it was and they dubbed him the future of rock and roll, or something similar. I bought Born to Run and was in major love. What a album. The whole thing was fantastic but I love Jungleland most of all. Though not a musician I have a real affinity for the sound of the saxophone and Clarence Clemons can do it like no other. Bought Darkness on the edge of town and found it average. Afterwards all the commercial shit, didn't care for it at all. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:48:42 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: lost children's book NJC There was a book I read and loved as a child, but now can't remember the author or title. It was about a family of two parents and a daughter who had been reincarnated several times. One of their lives was in ancient Egypt and another one was in modern America. The mother and the daughter never got along. If anyone can remember this, please email me: I've just spent an hour looking, with no luck. thanks, Mary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:46:53 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) ball busting bitch, rather. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:09:51 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: terrorism njc I have to wonder if the members of the media are stupid, extremely hard up for news, or thinking somewhere in their minds that they are serving the public. I am watching a program now where they are outlining every conceivable area that is vulnerable to terrorists attacks. This morning in the paper of the largest town in this area they ran a story of how the terrorists could use deer to spread disease. Do they not know or realize that they are giving ideas to these nuts? mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:22:31 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #23, Trick or Treat Well, Trick *and* treat would be more like it...like its predecessors, Volume 23 is a mixed bag of songs, styles, genres, and artists. Besides me, here's who helped provide the material: Ron Greer Gordon Mackie Monica Cardinale And now, on to the treats: 1. Sergio Mendes & Brasil '77 - Chelsea Morning (live): This one starts off the set and gets you up out of your seat! A very nice animated take and a pretty rare track too! It's from an official live LP, but I think it was only issued in Brazil. 2. Ian McCulloch - The Circle Game: Ian was the brains behind Echo & The Bunnymen, sort of a glam-80's band. They sorta droned on, and he sorta drones on here, but not really in a bad way. 3. Go Four 3 - This Flight Tonight: Here's a real obscure one, from a compilation of local Vancouver BC punk bands who all do cover songs. The tape is called "Van-Cover". Get it? Anyway, this rocks! 4. Marjan Cornille - A Case of You: Another nice Dutch vocalist takes on one of Joni's emotional anthems, with sweet results. 5. Al Hirt - Both Sides Now: Would have been better without the cheesy throw-in vocals. Al's definitely got the chops to carry this on his own, and he throws in a nice lick or two. 6. The Dog Run Boys - Urge For Going: A wonderful bluegrass recording from these guys based in Virginia. Great mandolin and banjo! 7. Daniel Bintii - River: Daniel sounds like more like Danielle, but this is very true to Joni's version and features some nice piano. 8. June Tabor - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: This one is a vocal BUT not with Joni's lyric, but rather a different one. June is of course one of the pivotal voices of British folk-rock, and this is a nice piece of jazz. 9. Lydia van Dam Group - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: What more can be said about the wonderful Lydia and her superb band? This is the final track from her "BSN" tribute CD, and is a nice minimal treatment with sweet soprano sax and shuffling drums. 10. John Hart Trio - Both Sides Now: NO cheese about it! This is a great 2001 release, proving that Joni's franchise song is still as ripe for interpretation as it was 30+ years ago! 11. Dread Zeppelin - Woodstock: From the sublime to the ridiculous! For those of you who DON'T know of Dread Zeppelin, they're sort of a 1-joke band, doing Led Zeppelin covers with an Elvis impersonator named Tortelvis. They crank this one up with the riff from "The Lemon Song", and then it's ganja reggae time, mon! Lots of fun, to be sure. 12. Marc Ducret Trio - God Must Be A Boogie Man: More great jazz guitar trio, only a much more obscure song to cover! This was a bonus track when this LP was made into a CD, and it's a gem to be sure. As you can probably guess, these guys, like The Coneheads, are from France. 13. Rumba Club - This Flight Tonight: Another 2001 release, and a BRAND NEW twist on this one! This one'll get even those of us with 2 left feet 'shakin' on the floor. One of my faves! 14. Marc Copland - Blue: More great jazz, muted Miles Davis-style trumpet & piano dominate this one and some nice subtle Brian Blad-ish drums and a great bass solo too! 15. Mainstreet - Chelsea Morning: This is from the CD put out by the ladies accapella group from Roanoke College in Roanoke, VA. Guaranteed to raise a smile! 16. Robert Allen - Both Sides Now: Robert is/was a blind pianist out of Columbus, OH. His BSN is pretty straitforward but rewards repeat listens; he does some interesting melodic passages. It sounds like George Winston in it's simplicity and beauty. 17. Nancy Lamott - I Don't Know Where I Stand: Nancy's story is a real heart-breaker. One of the stars of the NY cabaret scene, she died an untimely death in 1995. She was close friends with our own Stephen Elliott, and I'm sure David Lahm knows of her as well. Though she has some recordings, this version of "I Don't Know Where I Stand" is unreleased and from a radio show. So, there you have it...another month, another FULL CD's worth of Joni's songs as done by French jazz trios, European chanteuses, Canadian punkers, and all points in between. Further proof (not that any was needed) that Joni is one of the most influential writers ever! Bob NP: Nancy Lamott, "I Don't Know Where I Stand" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:58:10 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: books and more NJC Sue said: >You name your pets after favorite authors or characters. >People regard you with consternation when you yell out >for your dog *insert fictional name here*. Pets! I've thought that it would be really cool to name a daughter Scout. Or Phoebe because I love Holden's little sister but I don't really like the name Phoebe and besides, at this point everyone associates it with Friends. I could go on, I'm sure, but I have to go read some articles. I'm reading The Amber Spyglass right now, Jacky!! The Subtle Knife is also the same here in the US. I don't know why they changed the name of the first book, but I have to admit, I think The Golden Compass is a much snazzier name than Northern Lights. Though it wasn't REALLY a compass, was it. But I suppose The Golden Alethiometer wouldn't be such an attention-grabber. :-) - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:04:09 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: books and more NJC Yael, it takes me to Phoebe Snow, and thus I really like the name. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:23:24 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: I hope you saw that (njc) Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > I'm not a baseball fan, but I just caught the start of tonight's World > Series game. Wow!!! To see that bald eagle fly - just incredible! > ... > What a magnificent sight! I agree! It's such a huge powerful bird, which is especially apparent when it's next to a person. Last night's game, too, included a bald eagle flying during the singing of the national anthem, and that will probably be done tomorrow also. And, since my Mets aren't playing in the Series, I'm happy to see the "secondary" New York team playing this year. The Yankees are a never-give-up team and that's always impressive, unless they're playing against the Mets, of course. Debra Shea NP: The World Series. The Diamondbacks just scored another run. Damn. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:15:08 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: once is not enough (NJC) i saw this one like twenty times because david janssen was in the shower and you could almost SEE through the steam... i was really shocked when melina mercouri turns out to be the other woman's lover. i didn't know that girls could be like me. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de mack watson-bush Enviado el: Miircoles, 31 de Octubre de 2001 11:39 p.m. Para: joni Asunto: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) Remember the other Jacquie Susann movie, "once is not enough". I thought the book was pretty good, strictly Jacquie. The movie was not that great but I saw it at the theater and remember thinking Alexis Smith was a great bull busting bitch. Then off she went for her lesbian encounter with, wasn't that Melina Mercouri?, her girlfriend. Where I came from that was major taboo and there are the two of them loving and getting it on. I was shocked. Wow!!!!! I remember, though only about 15 or 16 at the time, thinking. Right on girls, good for you. Get it girl, even if I was uncomfortable with the major hush, even in the quiet theater, that came over the crowd. Always thought Jacquie hit it right on with the title of the book. David Janssen, why she was hot for him I will never know or understand, dumping her and said something like we had it once, to which she replied, "but, once is not enough" Found that classic. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:17:49 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: once is not enough (NJC) I don't remember David in the shower but do remember Kirk Douglas showing a bunch. Lot sexier than his son. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:22:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: once is not enough (NJC) you can say that again!!!! the shower scene comes when janssen can't get an erection so he takes a shower and the girl gets into the shower with him and then he can get it up and they DO IT. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de mack watson-bush Enviado el: Jueves, 01 de Noviembre de 2001 01:18 a.m. Para: joni Asunto: Re: once is not enough (NJC) I don't remember David in the shower but do remember Kirk Douglas showing a bunch. Lot sexier than his son. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:23:27 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: once is not enough (NJC) oh yes, sweet january. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:09:53 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Keith Jarrett NJC Hi all! Last night I had the remarkable pleasure of seeing Keith Jarret live in Vancouver at the Orpheum Theatre!!! Keith with Gary Peacock on bass and Jack DeJonette on drums. The have existed as a trio since 1983. Well, I have been a fan of Jarrett's for over 25 years, so this was an incredible event. In the last years he has not toured a great deal as he had cronic fatigue syndromme, and the result is a much mellower player, lighter, even more fluid if that's possible! It has been over 20 years since he performed in Vancouver! For me, there is no better jazz pianist in the world today. No one really comes close. There is something about his playing that is so unique- the minute you hear a KJ recording, you know it is him. Such a distinct style. Perhaps, someone like Brad Mehldau could reach Jarrett's heights, but I don't think he has the same level of classical training. Maybe someone like Fred Simon could enlighten us here! They played for over 2 hours- with a break in the middle. Mostly standards, but some improvisation as well. Keith is so into the music- he howls and sings like a cat, alternates between sitting and standing and moving all around- remarkable to see, really! He has a way in playing a ballad, with such quick hand movement- you think the beat is sooo fast, but yet it comes across as a ballad. Remarkable. He has been at the forefront of the German ECM jazz label for decades, and Peacock and DeJonette as well. The sidemen are as distinctive in their playing of their instruments as Jarrett is with the piano. It was an amazing treat to be part of it- and I highly recommend all of you to witness them live, if the tour brings them anywhere near you! Best, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Rainer Bruninghaus- Freigeweht another great ECM pianist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 03:13:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Keith Jarrett NJC interrupting work to chime in here. i do very highly recommend jarret's ECM album of standards and improvisations [the title escapes my memory now and i can't leave me desk]. simply stupendous! now back to editing essays. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Stephen Epstein Enviado el: Jueves, 01 de Noviembre de 2001 03:10 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; mepstein@sesmm.com Asunto: Keith Jarrett NJC Hi all! Last night I had the remarkable pleasure of seeing Keith Jarret live in Vancouver at the Orpheum Theatre!!! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #530 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?