From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #529 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 31 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 529 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: October 31 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: October 31 [les@jmdl.com] Re: children's & other books NJC ["Kakki" ] october 31!!!! (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: children's & other books NJC [colin ] NZ film NJC [colin ] Re: children's & other books NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) [colin ] Re: children's & other books NJC [colin ] Re: children's & other books NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: Children's books NJC ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: children's & other books NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] lavieri / valerio NJC ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: Dorothy Parker. ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] quote for the week - njc [Jerry Notaro ] NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic ["Ron Greer" ] Re: Confessions of a Bookaholic (NJC) [cvickery@danielrealty.com] Re: NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] RE: Victor in a coffeehouse, Friday, (sjc) ["Donna J. Binkley" ] BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] New moon or no? (njc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: New moon or no? (njc) [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: New moon or no? (njc) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Athens performance (njc) [cvickery@danielrealty.com] Re: Athens performance (njc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni 9/11 paintings ["Mark Tatum" ] The Snowman [Fonimitchell@aol.com] book addiction njc ["kerry" ] romance NJC [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] I hope you saw that (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni 9/11 paintings [Catherine McKay ] Re: New moon or no? (njc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Children's books, NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: children's & other books NJC [colin ] Re: Children's books NJC [colin ] Re: children's & other books NJC [colin ] Re: NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic [colin ] Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) [colin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 03:08:15 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: October 31 On October 31 in Joni Mitchell History: 1968: From the Official Chronology: Joni begins a four-night engagement at The Main Point in Philadelphia, playing two shows each night. 1970: Matthews Southern Comfort tops the UK chart with their version of "Woodstock". 1976: Dressed as Art Nouveau, the character who graces the cover of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Joni hits the Halloween party scene! More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/78crcs.cfm http://www.jonimitchell.com/ArtNouveau76.html 1985: Joni appears on Good Morning America - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 03:08:15 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: October 31 On October 31 these articles were published: 1994: "Lady of The Canyon" - MacLean's (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941031m.cfm 1998: "Few Nods To Nostalgia For Mitchell" - Ottawa Citizen (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031oc.cfm 1998: "Folk icons continue to work without dwelling on past" - Ottawa Sun (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031os.cfm 2000: "For CD guru, masters are his domain" - Daily News Los Angeles (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/001031dn.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 649 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:45:26 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC Hell wrote: > I suspect she was one of those rare people in the field of education, who > understands that learning is about more just listening to a teacher, and > that you were gaining valuable knowledge by doing this. Further thought may > have suggested that discouraging you might forever turn you against > reading - she was obviously a very good teacher! In retrospect, she must have been. All I could think at the time as a know-it-all 6th grader was how dense she was never to catch me missing for hours. She was a character and had definitely been around the block teaching school. She probably thought "what a NERD - oh let her go - this class is boring to me, too." ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 05:22:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: october 31!!!! (NJC) happy halloween!!!!!!!! be bad, be gothic, be scary! today would have been my aunt zulema's birthday. aunt zulema let me read her entire library when i was a child -- except east of eden! she gave me my first complete opera [elektra by r. strauss -- but she wouldn't allow me to read east of eden, go figure...] and my first model plane. she also gave me high tea at harrod's on fridays after school and took me on the longest train ride i ever went on in my life. dear aunt zulema: i love you, and it was only appropriate that you should be born on halloween: you knew the coolest ghost stories!!!!! you were my first scorpio girl .. and i still haven't read east of eden!!!! have fun up there, auntie dearest. wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:30 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC yes that is what I was asking. thanks for the reply. mack watson-bush wrote: > colin, are you asking if that was the t.v. show based on her books? If so, > yes. > > Mack - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:37:43 +0000 From: colin Subject: NZ film NJC Hell-I saw a film years ago, made in Nz. It was about some guys and a coffin. A black comedy. can't remember much else about it! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:01:31 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC They are true stories, too, Colin, and really an autobiography of Ingalls' early life. I liked that they made a TV series out of it but the books are MUCH better. I wish someone would do a good mini-series of the books one of these days. They are really extraordinary. Kakki > yes that is what I was asking. thanks for the >reply. > > mack watson-bush wrote: > > > colin, are you asking if that was the t.v. show based on her books? If so, > > yes. > > > > Mack > > -- > bw > colin > DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap > 6000, Duo80. > > colin@tantra-apso.com > http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:40:32 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) > Rick, so glad I'm not the only list member who came to adolescence in the late > 60's/early 70's and remembers sneaking peaks at "Valley of the Dolls" as a > rite of passage! I was 12 when I read the whole darn thing, but didn't have > to visit Mrs. Teal's trash can: it was sitting right there on my parents' > bookcase. I guess we must be about the asme age, I turn 43 next month. I read all the Jaqueline Suzanne novels when I was 14, or thereabouts. Did you see the film about her with Bette Midelr as her? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:44:18 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC Kakki wrote: > They are true stories, too, Colin, and really an autobiography of Ingalls' > early life. > I liked that they made a TV series out of it but the books are MUCH better. I didn't know they were true. I know the series well-they still show it here. It is a bit sugary but otherwise good. I was amazed to see Melissa Gilbert as an adult. Who would have theought such a plain child would grow into such a beauty. She is also the older sister of Darlene from Roseanne. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:14:18 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC > I didn't know they were true. I know the series well-they still show it here. It > is a bit sugary but otherwise good. Yes, it was good but much more sugary than the books which were very realistic about the hardships of pioneering life from a child's perspective. > I was amazed to see Melissa Gilbert as an adult. Who would have theought such a > plain child would grow into such a beauty. I always thought the same thing! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:34:21 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: Children's books NJC >>In my version, it was spelled "Lir". The ending, when they're turned back into humans, is heartbreaking.<< I hope this is not the beginning of a trend whereby people agree with or comment on anothers choice and then reveal the storys ending !!! mike, urging caution - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 04:41:27 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC Kakki wrote: > > They are true stories, too, Colin, and really an autobiography of Ingalls' > > early life. > > I liked that they made a TV series out of it but the books are MUCH better. I never read the books but loved the t.v. show. It was pretty sugary at times but I loved that too. It made me cry a lot. I thought some of things M. Landon did with that show and the characters were genius, sublty so. Colin wrote: It > is a bit sugary but otherwise good. > I was amazed to see Melissa Gilbert as an adult. Who would have theought such a > plain child would grow into such a beauty. She is also the older sister of > Darlene from Roseanne. Melissa did bloom didn't she. Very high maintenance I would presume but in hollywood, anything is possible. The younger girl is adopted, thus the great difference in appearance. I really like a lot of the movies produced in Britain. Really enjoyed Butterfly Collectors, Beautiful Thing, and though I don't know why I liked it so, I really liked Different for Girls. When I first saw the latter I was prejudiced somewhat about that kind of thing though I did not think I would or should be but watched it every time it came on and soon I was a big fan of Kim. Cannot remember that actors name but thought he did a great job, especially after seeing him in some other roles. The English movies seem to have a truth and a raw, real facet that Hollywood cannot seem to capture. Have found Australian movies pretty much the same. Really liked Strictly Ballroom and Careful, he might hear you, the Sum of us, etc. Hollywood seems stuck in a rut. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 05:57:50 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Childrens' Books (NJC) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:42:36 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: Childrens' Books (NJC) In a message dated 10/30/01 9:05:14 AM, Gertus@aol.com writes: >I don't know whether anyone has already mentioned the superb and recent >trilogy by Philip Pullman which begins with "Northern Lights". It's been >compared to Tolkein's work and certainly is a very "adult" childrens series >which is fantastically imaginative while at the same time showing great >understanding of the human situation. I've just finished the first book >and can't wait to start the second. The trilogy is know as "His Dark Materials" >trilogy. About the Philip Pullman trilogy Mary wrote:- >Yes, they are great! Here in the US, though, the first book is known as "the >golden compass". Why do they change titles from UK to US? Hi Mary, That is very strange. "Nothern Lights" seems like a perfectly harmless and straightforward title. However my copy does have a picture of a golden compass or "alethiometer" on the front. What's the second book called? Here it's "The Subtle Knife" while the last one is "The Amber Spyglass". Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:29:41 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: More reading habits sorry, should have been NJC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:29:14 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: More reading habits Mary P commented: "Rick, so glad I'm not the only list member who came to adolescence in the late60's/early 70's and remembers sneaking peaks at "Valley of the Dolls" as arite of passage! I was 12 when I read the whole darn thing..." My sisters had that book and I used to sneak off and sit in their bathroom while they were working at W.T. Grant's and read away. And after I read that one, what did I find under Pat's pillow but the other classic, "The Happy Hooker." Oh boy. I must have been about 12 and absolutely no context for 3/4's of the stuff in there. At that time, my sexiest daydreams wandered not much beyond holding Paul Mccartney's hand or kissing Johnny Bench. But boy, I could never look at a German Shephard the same way after reading that book. MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:20:15 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: bookaholic part 2 (njc) When your friend moves to a new city (Houston) and writes to tell you that the Borders on the north end of town is a little slice of heaven. Bigger than anything here in Michigan (Then again, everything in Texas is bigger. Hmmm maybe it's time to move to Texas ;-). When you cry because your husband makes you get rid of some of your books as the shelves are heaving in the middle and he fears catastrophy. Later you go hunting down the people who stopped at your garage sale to see if they have finished the book and are willing to sell it back to you. The color you decorate your room depends on what stack of book bindings are in the corner today. Ohhh, Song of Solomon, yellow! Yes, I think I want my living room to be canary! You name your pets after favorite authors or characters. People regard you with consternation when you yell out for your dog *insert fictional name here*. On your birthday all you receive is gift certificates to the local bookstore. The bookstore has your birthday and friends' names on file as it knows there is at least $100.00 in certificate sales approaching. You make your book stand out of books and 2x4s so it can hold more books. You gladly consume correctol as you know it will lead to more time in the "reading room". The education field was "appealing" because of the bookworm in the apple. Sorry, "my bad" as the kids would say. Happy trick or treater day everyone! Suze n.p. Lambert, Hendricks & Ross - Twisted Joni Mitchell "Covers & Contributions" Volume 2, Disc 1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:33:36 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: lavieri / valerio NJC Come clean Vince. This 'valerio' character you talk of is just an alter ego for your musings on the war. Did you think the anagram would fool us? ;-) Seriously, Vince, for someone who claimed to have no energy for these matters (the war) some weeks ago it is great to see you on top form and presenting logical and moral arguments for your beliefs about the war in Afghanistan and its consequences. More power to you. Mike in BCN. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:26:58 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: Dorothy Parker. Can the person who posted the words of Dorothy Parker's poem 'Resume' some time ago kindly send me a copy again, off-list if possible. My student (the lawyer) just sent his Friday poem today (because of the 'pont') but it is in Catalan. I'd like to send him the original in English. Thanks mike in bcn NP Dolce Puentes 'Velha Chica' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:42:35 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) "Mary E. Pitassi" wrote: > Coyote Rick wrote: > > "But, my most secret book was Valley of the Dolls. Banned in our quasi Ozzie Have to jump in with my memory. Picture it: Sicily, 19 - no wait. That's not it. Summertime, 1976. I'm working as a page at the downtown Public Library. Then taking a bus to our summer home in Canada each night after work. I bought the paperback of Valley of the Dolls at the bus station and began to read it around 6. Read it on the bus on the ride. Then read the whole book through until 4 in the morning. Such a scandalous tale she told. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:45:01 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) Stephen Epstein wrote: > My secret adolescent book was Candy- don't remember the author, but a movie > starring Richard Starkey (Ringo Starr). My group of 13 year old friends > passed it around, and I recall having to lock the door to the bathroom in > order to read it!!! Reminds me of the line from A Chorus Line: Locked in the bathroom with Peyton Place.... Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:28:08 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: quote for the week - njc Quote for the week: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect." --Mark Twain Jerry, still reeling over Lucinda's concert last night ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:01:48 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic Hi all those *book sickness* symptoms sound familiar, except for one slight distinction - cd's instead of books... : - ) i am totally unable to see a cd shop, or any person requesting a cd trade, without indulging. it has now reached the point where i have around 50 cds, which i havent even *listened* to yet - theres just not enough time......which hasnt stopped me getting more!!! ive run out of storage space, cause a 300 disc cd rack costs around the same as 4 albums, & i know which i prefer........(hint - you can't listen to a rack) piles of cds on the coffee table, on the floor, on my desk, & the bedroom floor - what happened to this place??? i also have an insatiable love for guitars (GAS??) oh well - at least my total lack of ability has enabled me to keep it down to three - a fender dreadnought acoustic (great for picking), a suzuki jumbo acoustic (great for strumming), and my pride & joy - a late 50's, early 60's "maestro" (the name wa apparently under licence from gibson, who used it for effects), acoustic/electric. what a mongrel!! the body shape of a classical, thick, wooden neck with no reinforcing, plywood construction with veneer, and strat style two single coil, & one double coil pickups mounted on a metal resonater plate, all make for one unique sound, (and feedback that would have made jimi weep). i picked it up at a local flea market for around us$ 75.00, & some local collectors here reckon it is probably the only one of its type left in existence - but not worth much in monetary terms because it has been so butchered & modified through the years. all in all - a guitar only i could love (actually not true - ive had a number of people try to buy it - but i will not part with it!!!) ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:22:39 -0600 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: Confessions of a Bookaholic (NJC) <> are you implying here that books can be read one at a time???? wow... what a concept! you know, someone told me the other day that that arm on the sofa wasn't created just to hang the book over in lieu of bookmarks, either - i had no idea! you learn something new every day. cindy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:40:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic <> Boy, do I resemble THAT remark! I love to read, but have no problem using the library to get a book, and return it! I have NO desire to own books, although I do have a couple that I cherish for special reasons. But music, different story altogether...last week, when I got hit by the flu, I KNEW that if I could just get to the record store and get some new music, I'd be OK! And after getting 3 new CD's, I started to mend! And I have a hard time going into a CD store just to "kill time"...if I go in there, I'm going to buy something. And it's actually more of a "music" thing than a "CD" thing, as I was the same way with vinyl. And I know what you mean about needing more time for listening...right now I'm caught up but sometimes I get a pretty good backlog. As for storage, all I can say is THANK GOD for Case Logic sleeves! No jewel boxes for me. Bob, always needy! NP: James & Bobby Purify, "I'm Your Puppet" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:48:37 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) Vancouver Stephen wrote: >My secret adolescent book was Candy- don't remember the author, but a movie >starring Richard Starkey (Ringo Starr). My group of 13 year old friends >passed it around, and I recall having to lock the door to the bathroom in >order to read it!!! Rather hot, if I recall! Good grief, it's daddy! :) Terry Southern was the author. His Blue Movie was even hotter. :) Because of my airplane fixation my mother would pick up any flying-type books for me at yard sales. She bought me Catch-22 because there was a B-25 on the cover. Boy, was THAT book an education. :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:43:53 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Victor in a coffeehouse, Friday, (sjc) You go Victor! Good luck, have a great time! This may be your first solo performance, but after they hear you it won't be your last. Keep the JMDL posted on your progress so we can come up and support you when possible. Donna B. - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of jlamadoo, home account Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:10 PM To: _JMDL Subject: Victor in a coffeehouse, Friday, (sjc) You go, Victor! My opinion, not that anyone asked, is that I hope you can do Music on a full time basis. Karen O'Brien says that some people tried to dissuade our Joni from music, even after her songs were all on the radio as covers! Dylan's manager, Albert Grossman thought she was 'too domestic' as judged by her beautifully decorated home. (?) Can you imagine a man's seriousness about a career being judged by his house?? ["Hey, Dylan, man, I dig the music, but since you put up curtians, you must not be a *real* musician." (?)] Lamadoo I'll be doing my first solo performance in Athens this Friday. It will be at The Bean'ry, a local coffeeshop, a very cool place with lots of couches, christmas lights, candles, and a mural on the wall. If any of y'all from Atlanta or anywhere else want to drive up, I'd be glad to see you. Details are below. Victor Johnson at The Bean'ry 510 Thomas Street Athens, Georgia 30601 (706)425-9911 Starts about 9:30 with opening act no cover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:14:41 -0500 From: "Frank, Catherine" Subject: Happy Hallowe'en njc Here's a cute website for all you Halloweeners (Hallowed winners? hollow wieners? ) http://www.interlattice.com/grumpkins/ Catherine (posting inappropriately from work) aka anima_rising@yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:37:33 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) Yup, just in time for Halloween, I'm back! I just got home a little while ago. I can't thank all of you enough for you prayers, thoughts and good wishes. I really think we're onto something here! (The surgeons were basically saying to each other, "We're done - but we're not supposed to be done so fast! What else do you want to do to her???" They wound up taking some extra tissue samples and doing probably one of the most precise sutures ever :-) Gee, if I'd only known! My dentist could have come in and done all my dental work for life. Or I could have ordered a cute little button nose (nah, I like my nose...) So, I made it as much fun as one can. If you're going into the hospital, you might want to try the 'voices' project. Or: - - bring your own pj's and wear a different pair every day. You'll be amazed at how popular this makes you. EVERYONE loves it. It's like they've never seen pajamas before. - - tape a few favorite photos to the walls. Makes the room cheerier and makes the staff see you as a real person. - - If the hospital doesn't have this, bring in a white board and hang it on the wall. Ask the nurses to sign in when they come on duty. (this hospital had a white board - which was great...) - - bring your own slippers that are easy to slide into - - take some light reading with you - I like "The Cat Who..." books - - if you like herbal tea, bring your own tea bags So, I'll send separate email with some of my adventures. (Yup, I had a few little ones that had nothing to do with the surgery...) Thank you again for all your love and support! LOTS of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:41:09 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) anne!!!!!!!!!! i'm jumping and hopping and wearing a pair a slinkies as earrings just because you make me so happy. you must be my twin!!!!! love, wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Anne Sandstrom Enviado el: Miircoles, 31 de Octubre de 2001 02:38 p.m. Para: 'joni@smoe.org' Asunto: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) Yup, just in time for Halloween, I'm back! I just got home a little while ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:56:13 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Moving Halloween (njc) They essentially tried splitting up halloween here in San Francisco some years back, first making it "official" on the night itself -- even charging everyone five bucks TO GET INTO THE CASTRO (where the action had always been) - -- not just the out-of-towners, but the locals, the people who go to the castro every day. After a great deal of outcry, they moved the "official" party to Civic Center the following year, and for a couple years thereafter, although many were not fooled, and went to the more "fun" unofficial street party in the castro, which was still free (I suppose some went to both). Then, finally, this year they changed the "official" party at civic center to the Saturday *before* Halloween -- I don't have the figures, but I seriously doubt many people went. And I have a feeling there'll be plenty of people at the "real good and free" halloween tonight in the castro tonight. So much for official interference. They can change Halloween to the third of April for all most people care, and they will continue to celebrate it on 10/31, as they should. Looking forward to the real good and free (or at least no cover charge) get-together of the SF Bay jmdlers on the 7th at the Cafe Bazaar. Anyone (including possibly vacillating lurkers) in SF and environs who hasn't been officially invited, contact Darice at daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us. Happy, happy, joy, joy, hallo, hallo, ween, ween (as Stimpy would say), Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:06:14 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) well, this is EXCELLENT news! brings me screaming out of lurkdom. congrats anne, so fecking great to see you post. i'm glad it went well! happy halloween, and speedy recovery. alison e. in slc - --- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > Yup, just in time for Halloween, I'm back! I just > got home a little while > ago. Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:24:11 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Moving Halloween (njc) In a message dated Wed, 31 Oct 2001 1:58:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: > They essentially tried splitting up halloween here in San Francisco some > years back, first making it "official" on the night itself -- even charging > everyone five bucks TO GET INTO THE CASTRO (where the action had always been) > -- not just the out-of-towners, but the locals, the people who go to the > castro every day. After a great deal of outcry, they moved the "official" > party to Civic Center the following year, and for a couple years thereafter, > although many were not fooled, and went to the more "fun" unofficial street > party in the castro, which was still free (I suppose some went to both). > > Then, finally, this year they changed the "official" party at civic center to > the Saturday *before* Halloween -- I don't have the figures, but I seriously > doubt many people went. And I have a feeling there'll be plenty of people at > the "real good and free" halloween tonight in the castro tonight. So much > for official interference. They can change Halloween to the third of April > for all most people care, and they will continue to celebrate it on 10/31, as > they should. > > Looking forward to the real good and free (or at least no cover charge) > get-together of the SF Bay jmdlers on the 7th at the Cafe Bazaar. Anyone > (including possibly vacillating lurkers) in SF and environs who hasn't been > officially invited, contact Darice at daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us. > > Happy, happy, joy, joy, hallo, hallo, ween, ween (as Stimpy would say), > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:31:08 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Moving Halloween (njc) Oops...sorry about that earlier empty post. I hit the wrong button (I hate when that happens...). Anyways, I'll be celebrating The Ween in the Castro tonight! A friend who lives in the thick of it is having a par-tay. And I'm looking forward to the Bay Area get together, too! My cell number is 415-505-1679 if any jmdl revelers want to try to hook up somewhere on Castro tonight. I'm not sure what I'll be this year. Last year I was a "hippie." Yeah...I blend. :-) - -Julius > > Looking forward to the real good and free (or at least no cover charge) > get-together of the SF Bay jmdlers on the 7th at the Cafe Bazaar. Anyone > (including possibly vacillating lurkers) in SF and environs who hasn't been > officially invited, contact Darice at daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us. > > Happy, happy, joy, joy, hallo, hallo, ween, ween (as Stimpy would say), > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:01:49 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Fame? NJC <> I can sympathize, Jim, but I would say that if you don't like Springsteen's vocal, or that E-Street band sound (I love them both), you won't be able to get past it. Tom Waits & Elvis C. fall into the same category. <> I think there's a private joy in feeling like you are one of the priveleged few that appreciates something. As if to say, "I'm NOT one of the millions, the lemmings, but rather I'm somebody special". There's a certain amount of that that goes on with our mutual appreciation of Joni. We get it, most don't. Or, don't care to make the effort. <> And on one level, that's borne of the fact that NOW you're enjoying something that isn't even KNOWN about by the common folk. Even more of a sense of exclusivity than The Cowboy Junkies. <> I don't think it's success, I think that the barrier can be created by the celebrity in their attitude. When I saw Richard Thompson, no barrier whatsoever. He acted like one of us, performing on stage. No posturing, just performance and sincerity. Not too many people can handle celebrity & fame. Joni has done a good job of it. <> Well, with airplay comes more exposure, which means more sales, which means more money, which means more fame. Some interesting questions... Bob NP: Booker T. & The MG's, "Time Is Tight" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:08:37 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: Halloween (njc) Top ten reasons Halloween season is the best: 10. Lots of different uses for toilet paper 9. Scaring the crap out of little kids who torment me at school is acceptable and encouraged! 8. No traveling 7. Good excuse to buy and sample new candy bars 6. Can't tell the transvestite from your boss 5. The candlelight vigils in downtown Detroit on Devil's night 4. Large moles on face are no longer unsightly but desirable part of witch costume 3. Relatives are an option 2. Did I mention chocolate? And the #1 reason Halloween season is the best: TRICK OR DRINK :-) Sorry folks, long day with sugared and costumed children has induced this post. Happy Halloween! Mrs. Cameron, who won't be trick or drinkin' 'till Friday! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:35:49 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: New moon or no? (njc) Hey, all, On not one but two of the local midday newscasts here in SF today, they announced that it was full moon for halloween tonight, something that hasn't happened in 46 or 47 years, depending on who you listen to. One of the two bnroadcasts correctly pointed out that if this is so, then it is a *blue* moon (second full moon in one month). The problem is, according to all my calendars, the full moon is on the 1st of Novmeber, which would make Halloween neither a full moon nor a blue moon. Anyone know for sure? Just curious whether I should bay (and grow more fur) tonight or not, Halloweenily yours, walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:59:10 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) In a message dated 10/31/01 3:36:52 PM, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: << Just curious whether I should bay (and grow more fur) tonight or not, >> Well. Walt, you are in the *bay* area... I heard that this full moonblue moon was happening tonight, too. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:14:53 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) The full moon is officially November 1st, NOT tonight! It is "almost" full tonight, and it makes a good story to say there is a full moon on Halloween night, but it is not true. There is also a full moon on November 30th, which makes *that* one a "blue moon" (second full moon in one month). So Walt, hold the fur-growing til tomorrow night. :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:47:59 -0600 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: Athens performance (njc) Victor said: <> So???? Who all is coming???? Gisele and I plan to be there, since she's not playing this Friday. Anyone else? Steve and Ken? Bob, I think I owe you a beer (not to mention a few CDs)... you up for a little road trip? Kammy? Sybil, aren't you in GA? We Suthun JMDLers need to meet up! Cindy Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:21:56 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Athens performance (njc) <> Always! But I'll be in Myrtle Beach Fri-Sun! :~( Bob NP: The Dramatics, "Whatcha See Is Whatcha Get" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:02:23 -0600 From: "Mark Tatum" Subject: Joni 9/11 paintings Hi! I'm a lurker on the Joni-only Digest. I don't get to read or respond to posts on a daily basis, but I enjoy keeping up with topics discussed on the list when I can. I have a question about Joni's recent painting of her garden that she juxtaposed with her painting of the WTC attack. Some recents posts focused on the "holy book" in the garden painting and I was wondering if it may be connected to Joni's medicine wheel concept that she used to set up the stage for PWWAM and which she discussed in her 1988 interview with Bill Flanagan (Secret Places interview). Maybe the NEWS on the cover of the book refers to North (intellect), East (clarity), West (tactile intelligence), and South (emotion,heart, and feeling). The symbol on the cover might be like a compass with its four points. Wasn't there also some connection with the "four races" of man? Anyway, by spelling "news" she may have had more than one meaning in mind. What do you think? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:04:16 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: The Snowman I've watched the "Snowman" correspondence with interest. The film was truly magical, and in the UK it became as much associated with Christmas as Tom & Jerry's brilliant "The Night Before Christmas" or the quintessential English ghost story "The Signalman" (set on a sleepy Victorian branch line). BUT only two days ago I witnessed, on television, the young choirboy (Aled Williams) who sang the themesong ("Walking in the Air"), singing something much more modern (I've forgotten what) in his grown-up voice - AWFULLY! The spell was broken !!! It makes you aware of the passage of time. At least Tom and Jerry will never grow old. Regards to all, Clive. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:45:59 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: book addiction njc Ashara wrote: >Or even 4 or 5??? ;-) >ACK!!!!!! >We must STOP continuing to add to the list!!!!! I can't handle knowing I have >such a severe addiction!!! LOL!!!!! Yes! Plus, I have trouble with keeping my book piles under control. There were so many spilling out of my night stand that I had to buy a giant basket for them next to my bed AND.... worst confession of all, I even have several books IN my bed next to me at any given time. So I guess another symptom is sleeping with books!!!!! Kerry NP - Tina Turner - "Missing You" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:11:15 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: romance NJC I can't take credit for this, but I've got to share it. from someone on a romance novel listserv. happy halloween. mary - -------------------------------------------------------------------- The woman entered the room, and with a knowing smile teasing her full lips, she sank into the comfort of the plush chair in the corner. The handsome stranger turned, having sensed her approach. Locking his deep brown eyes on hers, he moved slowly toward her, his experienced gaze measuring her, hypnotizing her with his soft murmurs of assurance. He sank to his knees before her and without a word, smoothly released her from her constraining attire. With a sigh of surrender, she allowed his foreign hands to unleash her bare flesh. He expertly guided her through this tender, new territory, boldly taking her to heights she had never dared to dream of, his movements deliberate, confident in his ability to satisfy her every need. Her senses swam. She was overcome with an aching desire that had gone unfulfilled for so long. And, just as it seemed that ecstasy was within her grasp, he paused, and for one heart-stopping moment, she thought, "It's too big! - it will never fit!" Then, with a sudden rush, it slid into place as if it had been made only for her. As pleasure and contentment washed over her, she met his steady gaze, tears of gratitude shining in her eyes. And he knew it wouldn't be long before she returned. Oh, yes, this woman would want more. She would want to do it again and again and again............ * * * * * * * * * DON'T YA JUST LOVE SHOPPING FOR SHOES Got ya...... I wonder where your mind was taking you? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:36:24 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: I hope you saw that (njc) I'm not a baseball fan, but I just caught the start of tonight's World Series game. Wow!!! To see that bald eagle fly - just incredible! That falconer is one of the very few who can work with a bald eagle. It's almost impossible, given all the restrictions surrounding an endangered species, not to mention that you have to be an absolute master falconer to be allowed to work with such a bird. What a magnificent sight! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: BOO! - just when you thought it was safe (njc) - --- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > Yup, just in time for Halloween, I'm back! I just > got home a little while > ago. > ... > I made it as much fun as one can. Jeez, Anne,you make a hospital stay sound... pleasant! So glad to hear you're feeling better and that it sounds like it went well (considering), Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) - --- AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > The full moon is officially November 1st, NOT > tonight! It is "almost" full > tonight, and it makes a good story to say there is a > full moon on Halloween > night, but it is not true. I'm so disappointed! I was looking forward to a good Halloween Howl! Now eating - chocolate. Lots of it. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:56:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni 9/11 paintings - --- Mark Tatum wrote: > Hi! I'm a lurker on the Joni-only Digest. ... I have a question about Joni's > recent painting of her garden that she juxtaposed > with her painting of the WTC attack. Some recents > posts focused on the "holy book" in the garden > painting and I was wondering if it may be connected > to Joni's medicine wheel concept that she used to > set up the stage for PWWAM and which she discussed > in her 1988 interview with Bill Flanagan (Secret > Places interview). Maybe the NEWS on the cover of > the book refers to North (intellect), East > (clarity), West (tactile intelligence), and South > (emotion,heart, and feeling). The symbol on the > cover might be like a compass with its four points. > Wasn't there also some connection with the "four > races" of man? Anyway, by spelling "news" she may > have had more than one meaning in mind. What do you think? I think that's a heckuva good suggestion - I wouldn't have thought of it, but now that you mention it, it sounds reasonable - there's a lot of duality in Joni's lyrics, so it makes sense she would do this in her paintings as well. If you've noticed the words she puts around the frames of the paintings in Turbulent Indigo, for example, she even puts the multiple meanings into these words (idol, idyll, idle and so on.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:00:23 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: New moon or no? (njc) In a message dated 10/31/01 5:51:20 PM, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: [regarding the fact that full moon isn't really until November 1st] << I'm so disappointed! I was looking forward to a good Halloween Howl! >> Me, too, although now I won't have to shave my back before i go out... Happy Howloween, all, Woooooooo-alter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:01:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Children's books, NJC - --- "Mary E. Pitassi" wrote: > One series I > absolutely loved, however, was Cherry Ames. Cherry > was a registered nurse, > and she was smart, single, confident, loved a good > mystery, worked in the most > interesting of places, *always* had nearly complete > control over her work > environment (in contrast, I'm afraid, to some > real-life RNs I've known since), > and NEVER worked mandatory overtime! I remember Cherry Ames - Lord, that girl did get around, didn't she? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:07:46 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC Kakki wrote: > > I didn't know they were true. I know the series well-they still show it > here. It > > is a bit sugary but otherwise good. > > Yes, it was good but much more sugary than the books which were very > realistic about the hardships of pioneering life from a child's perspective. > > > I was amazed to see Melissa Gilbert as an adult. Who would have theought > such a > > plain child would grow into such a beauty. > > I always thought the same thing! ;-) yes. I felt a bit mean saying it as I always think you shouldn't think such things! But still there is no denying she did turn out beautiful. Unfortunately it worked the other for me :-( > > > Kakki - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:09:15 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Children's books NJC > I hope this is not the beginning of a trend whereby people agree with or > comment on anothers choice and then reveal the storys ending !!! Better not!!! I love to read Minnet Walters. She is VERY annoying as she usally, but not always, finishes her books without telling who did it! > > > mike, urging caution > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:15:27 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC > Beautiful Thing, I first saw this in a cinema, The Prince Charles, in Leicester Square. The audience stood and applaueded when it was over. they also applauded dutring the scene when they played 'you are sixteen...' from the SOM. hilarious. > > capture. Have found Australian movies pretty much the same. Really liked > Strictly Ballroom Another excellent film. The same man also did Moulin Rouge which we both enjoyed immensely. Hoeevr, we both also nearly left during the first few minutes. It was just so frantic it hurt the eys and the head. Glad we stuck it out tho. Strictly Ballroom was just hilarious. Tap Dpgs was excellent too and Muriels Wedding. Oh and Priscilla Queen of The Desert which was very poorly copied in To Wong foo which was not that good tho an excellnt performance from Swaze and the guy who played the little Latino and also from oh shit whatsername from grease? oh Stockard Channing-realy good actress. Snipes was offensive and just awful. > and Careful, he might hear you, the Sum of us, etc. > Hollywood seems stuck in a rut. > > Mack - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:18:52 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: NJC - Confessions of a Discaholic Ron Greer wrote: > Hi > > all those *book sickness* symptoms sound familiar, except for one slight distinction - cd's instead of books... : - ) > > i am totally unable to see a cd shop, or any person requesting a cd trade, without indulging. it has now reached the point where i have around 50 cds, which i havent even *listened* to yet - theres just not enough time......which hasnt stopped me getting more!!! > > ive run out of storage space, cause a 300 disc cd rack costs around the same as 4 albums, & i know which i prefer........(hint - you can't listen to a rack) oh dear we must be really sick-we run into 0000's between us! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:21:28 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: _Valley_ memories (NJC) > His Blue > Movie was even hotter. :) oh God! I got caught reading this in class when iwas about 14. Mrs (polish and I can;t recall how it was preonounced let alone spelt)**** caught me. She looked at it, gave it me back and told me to get on with my work! She was later run down and killed by a train. Not that the two things are connected...... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #529 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?