From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #526 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 30 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 526 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Christmas music (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Children's Books (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] children's books NJC ["Norma Meatheringham" ] on the BBC today, njc [Vince Lavieri ] Children's books and report cards njc ["kerry" ] Kate Bush!!! njc [Lazyasz@aol.com] Re: "Message to love-the isle of Wight festival" [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Chastity Bono NJC [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: children's books njc [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Nancy Drew njc ["kerry" ] scary Joni Jeopardy for fanatics [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: Subject: Re: Christmas CDs (NJC) [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: John Kelly [Richard Goldman ] hardy boys njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Feed the hungry NJC [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: book disease NJC warning long [Catherine McKay ] Boston Public(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: children's & other books NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Boston Public(njc) [Mags N Brei ] Athens performance (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] more children's books NJC [Yael Harlap ] (njc)Book disease, pix from Newport, Colin's yahoo group link. [BigWaltin] Re: Harry Potter NJC [Catherine McKay ] Valerio! [Vince Lavieri ] Re: cheese steak njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Harry Potter NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: smashing pumpkins - njc [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Christmas CDs (SJC) [Leslie Mixon ] Re: Children's Books (NJC) ["hell" ] maugham NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Winnie the Pooh NJC ["hell" ] Re: Feed the hungry NJC [Rick and Susan ] Children's Books (NJC) [Leslie Mixon ] The Snowman njc [FredNow@aol.com] Re: children's books njc [FredNow@aol.com] RE: The Snowman njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:09:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Christmas music (NJC) i really love the ones with lots of children's choirs. but somehow i relate christmas to the carpenters and to joni maybe because their new albums always came out in december here. since my birthday is so close to christmas i would get a carpenters and a joni as gifts!!!!! my favorite christmas albums: an old fashioned christmas and a christmas portrait both by the carpenters. a ceremony of carols by benjamin britten a star in the east, anonymous 4 o come all ye faithful, king's college choir and many many many popular christmas songs: white christmas, the christmas song, etc. my favorite christmas carols EVER: in the bleak midwinter. and then, for 25 years or so i wrote a xmas song a year. some of them are nice. i love christmas and i know someday i'll meet someone to celebrate it with!!!!!! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:13:13 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Children's Books (NJC) Frightfully politically incorrect in some quarters these days, but I've always loved W. E. Johns' Biggles books, and thanks to a friend on the Biggles list, just completed my collection - there's around 100 of them. I'm not sure if I got a love of aircraft and flying from the books, or got into the books because I loved aircraft... - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:23:20 -0700 From: "Norma Meatheringham" Subject: children's books NJC can't let this one go by fave in the family is Wallace Tripp's 'A Great Big Ugly Man Came Up And Tied His Horse To Me', a Book of Nonsense Verse and wonderfully illustrated. If you ever come across one, please let me know. We have a hardcover edition and I have a hard time keeping it unborrowed (new word!!). as for Harry Potter, our daught loaned us her copies and read them all. Purchased our own set and then loaned them to our youngest son (25, 6'8"), who was pretty upset with me because he was really tired at work since he HAD TO stay up and finish the 4th volume before he could go to bed at 3:30AM... yes, reading runs in our family as well as love of music and nope, not one of us plays a musical instrument except for the spouse who tootles on an acoustic guitar, electric bass and banjo. Christmas music: Mahalia Jackson - voice made for the organ and what an instrument!! Mario Lanza - Christmas Hymns and Carols (vinyl) usually the first one on the turntable followed by MJ. Bruce Cockburn - Christmas prefer very spiritual music as opposed to Jingle Bells and the like, although I have been known to throw on some Bob Rivers... back to lurking. tt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart. It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul." - -Judy Garland Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. "Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. True friendship is a plant of slow grow, and must undergo and withstand the shocks of adversity before it is entitled to the appellation." -George Washington ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:26:59 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: on the BBC today, njc The link below was *not* on the BBC today. I found the link below when I looked at the BBC site. What was on the BBC this morning at 9 am EST was a story that American armed forces in Afghanistan were broadcasting over the radio urgent pleas to everyone to not pick up the food packages that were being dropped. The reason for this was that the packaging of the food parcels and the packaging of cluster bombs are very similar. The BBC reported that there is a particular problem in that children are often the ones sent out to pick up the food packages which are turning out to be cluster bombs. Of course, as an adult, I am not in favor of adults picking up what they think are food packages and finding out - the hard way, in that one last brief second of life - that what they are picking up is a cluster bomb. Maybe this is one of the reasons that relief agencies have been against these food drops - if you want to get food to people, bring it to people, as Church World Service, Lutheran World Relief, the UN, and everyone else does - bring it in on trucks and give it to people. But perhaps a whole lot more difficult is knowing that children, women, men, civilians are out picking up cluster bombs that look like food packages - which were dropped in the same places. Innocents. Is this the nature of war, do we write off as unfortunate but "they" started it? That would be the terrorists' justification for killing innocents - they were after the World Trade Center where there were corporations, banks, and other entities that are part of the evil that they feel is globalization and exploitation and killing (through economic and other policies) of innocents and they had to strike at the very center of world trade to stop this - and if innocents were killed, well, we had been warned through words and deeds that they, the people behind September 11th, felt that these things must stop. Hell, the WTC was bombed before, people should have known, if innocents were killed, well, unfortunate, they had been warned - that is terrorist thinking which I deplore and condemn as immoral. So they killed innocents to strike at what they felt was evil and we kill innocents to strike at what we fell is evil and why is what we do better than what they do - because we do it and we always give ourselves the higher moral ground? Because they started it - but they would argue we started it by our policies. They would argue we started it by our support of terrorism against Palestinians. And then we could argue that they started it by their treatment of Israel. They we could say that they started it because they opposed our creating a new nation of Israel in 1948 in their midst - without their approval. And they would say we started it because we created that nation of Israel only after the Holocaust, which they had nothing to do with. And so on and so on and so on. Ever more saying, not me, you started it. Each side saying, you kill innocents - I am just having accidental consequences of war. Last night I spent the evening with my Army Ranger buddy with whom I have been friends for many years. He and I are 95% in agreement, and the 5% that we aren't, we understand of each other. His feeling as an Army ranger is that you want to get bin Laden, send special forces and get bin Laden - but, my Ranger friend says, there is no call to wage war against the people, the nation of Afghanistan. He says we cannot argue that we don't like their government so we can wage war on them, because they can wage war on us for the same reason, they don't like our government. You want bin Laden, go get bin laden, leave the people alone. He wonders, like I do, where does this stop. And children are out there picking up cluster bombs that look like food. And we dropped those things together to oppose violence against innocents. Somehow it doesn't make sense. It sounds very wrong when they do it, sounds very wrong when we do it. I will never forget the horror of September 11th. But my mind is not eased by picturing someone's child being blown to hell by a cluster bomb, especially as they reach out for they think is food. Returning evil for evil does not eliminate evil. It only extends evil. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1619000/1619159.stm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:47:59 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Children's books and report cards njc Children's books! A subject near and dear to my heart since I spent the last 10 years teaching. My very favorite thing about teaching was reading a great book to the kids and seeing them enjoy it. So many of the kids I taught were way too "worldly" and it was just damn reassuring to see that kids still love books!!! (I'm sounding old.....) Anyway, my favorite books as a kid were (and are): "The Secret Garden" All of the "Winnie the Pooh" books "No Roses For Harry" "Paddie Paws" and I'm sure there were more, but I've killed too many brain cells to remember them! Since this is somewhat related, I'll share my report card comments. I still have them all! For the first 3 years, my teachers would say that I "talked to others when I should be listening" and then by the end of each year, they would comment that I had improved. (My Kindergarten teacher said, and I quote, "Kerry has licked her talking problem.") By fourth grade, she just said that I need to show more self control. Some things never change! Kerry (who feasted on Sharon's delicious lemon bread for breakfast and didn't show much control!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:43:57 EST From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: Kate Bush!!! njc Just to let y'all know, Kate Bush made her first public appearance in God-knows-how-long to accept the award for Classic Songwriter at the 12th annual Q Awards held in London today. Go to this site: http://www.clubi.ie/twomey/katenews.htm to find out more info. Peace & Deeper Understanding, Damien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:49:12 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: "Message to love-the isle of Wight festival" Also, Why wasn't other musicians such as Chicago in the video? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:04:52 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: Chastity Bono NJC In a message dated 10/29/01 2:27:32 PM, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: >They got to talking about Cher's daughter and her being lesbian. I read about Chastity and Cher in a book called Family Outing. Apparently Cher didn't take it so well at first, mostly because Chastity told Sunny and he told Cher gloating about "I know more than you". Cher shaped up pretty quickly. Chastity and Cher also had long wars going about appropriate clothing. Cher always wanted Chastity to dress up more. The thought of Cher's idea of dressed up for a teenage girl is scary! I would far rather dress like Chastity - regular clothes - than Cher :) Mary People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:15:36 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: children's books njc In a message dated 10/29/01 1:22:32 PM, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: >And the Hardy Boys too. speaking of the Hardy boys, I remember being about 8 or so and watching a Hardy Boys show in which they traveled into the future - to 1979! This would have been about 1977 or so. I was impressed - 1979 - it seemed so far away. my youth, era of disco hell, from which Michael Jackson rescued the world with "Thriller". I was far too young and ignorant to know about Joni then. The 60's for my parents was Kingston Trio and Simon and Garfunkel, and the 70's they pretty much ignored. help me, I am having flashbacks of "greased lightning". Mary People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:23:31 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Nancy Drew njc > I read somewhere that the Nancy Drew >mysteries were revised over the years. > Can anyone elaborate on why/how? For all the Nancy Drew fans out there: I came across some parodies a few years back that I would highly recommend. The author, Mabel Maney writes in the exact same style, but with lesbian story lines and the books are hilarious! The titles are, "The Case of the Not So Nice Nurse," (featuring Cherry Aimless) "A Ghost in the Closet" (with the gay 'Hardly Boys') and "The Case of the Good For Nothing Girlfriend." Kerry NPIMH - Stevie - Everyday ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:26:43 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: scary Joni Jeopardy for fanatics how about Joni Jeopardy for fanatics? does someone on the list want to volunteer? for example, what were the original lyrics in "all I want"? what was Joni wearing when she got married (which time)? etc. I'll bet you could come up with some pretty difficult questions. Mary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:32:51 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Christmas CDs (NJC) why do you hate xmas, Colin? is it too commercial? People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:33:33 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: John Kelly mitch, 1. Why, how, when and where did John Kelly get involved in Wigstock? 2. How has his identity as a gay man shaped his musical and artistic tastes and talents? 3. How, if at all, has his hiv status affected his life, work, and artistic endeavors? Just a few questions I'd be interested reading about . . . Richard in San Francisco n.p.- Holcombe Waller - "Twist" ================================= > >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:03:28 EST >From: Rusty10113@aol.com >Subject: Re: John Kelly > >Hi all...Im going from lurker to full blown participant with this one, >because I would love some help with an upcoming writing assignment... I'm >interviewing John Kelly for a small NYC weekly, HX, and was wondering what >you'd most like to know about him and his new show at Fez, which has been >extended through the new year and I understand will contain some Xmas >material (more to come on that)... anyway, the interview is this Wednesday, >and would appreciate any insight or questions you all might have. > >Don't be shy! thanks much for any help gang... > >mitch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:49:08 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: hardy boys njc Mary, you brought back memories that I didn't know were there. I couldn't remember any children's books that I had read until you mentioned the Hardy Boys. Read them all, couldn't get enough of them. Tried Nancy Drew. Too chicky. Now trying to remember other books I read and there were many since I spent a lot of time in the library, but what were they. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:05:34 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Feed the hungry NJC anyone know if this is for real? http://www.thehungersite.com If you click on the appropriate link, they say they will donate food. Includes a link to donations for Afghan refugees. Mary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: book disease NJC warning long - --- TimandMaryPowers@aol.com wrote: > OK, here are some symptoms of the book disease: > ... > On to my symptoms: > > - Inability to pass a bookstore without entering > (and probably buying, though > I'm getting better) I used to buy a lot of books but I got so tired of packing them every time we moved that I decided to get rid of a lot of them. Now I do my reading by borrowing from the library. If there's anything I decide I want to read, I put a hold on it at the library. You can do the whole thing by internet now, so I just think up books I want to read, go in and do a search, then put it on hold. Uusually, unless it's a super-popular brand-new book, you don't have to wait that long, and they call you when it comes in so you can just go and pick it up, and then browse the shelves looking for others that look good (contrary to the saying, I think you *can* judge a book by its cover - I've found quite a few good ones that just about leapt off the shelf into my hands.) I still do have a lot of books, most of which are reference books at this point, or collections of poetry. There aren't a heckuva lot of novels I've liked enough to want to read them again - at least, not when there's so many other books to read. I'm also a bit phobic about going into certain kinds of stores, chief among them the big-box-type bookstores and music stores that are so prevalent everywhere. Most of the time, if I go into a store like that, unless I've really psyched myself up for it, I end up feeling kind of dizzy and disoriented and I have to leave - unless I absolutely know the exact thing I want and can find someone right away so I can ask them to help me find it. There is a good book store close to where I live that, despite being quite small, has a surprising number and variety of books and will search for and order books for you that you want. My sister owns a bookstore in Port Hope, Ontario, where she and her husband live, so I guess I'd be ordering from her to give her the business! (If you're ever in Port Hope, drop by the Furby House bookstore - not named after those weird mechanical animals that were all the rage a few Christmases ago - it was already called this when they bought it from the guy that started it and it may have been his ex-wife's maiden name.) Tell Susan (my sister) that you know me from the jmdl - and she'll look at you like you're nuts, because she won't have a clue what the jmdl is, but she is a very nice person, even if she is my sister ;) On the other hand, I will never pass up the opportunity to acquire a new CD, or two, or three - I'm beginning to wonder if it's a bit of an obsessive-compulsive thing, because sometimes I buy so many that I don't think I have enough time to listen to them all! Especially when my darn kids don't like *my* music. My daughter would listen to Jennifer Lopez all day if she could. Fine enough, but there are other kinds of music out there (even if I have to force-feed it to them!) The way I get around the big-box-phobia thing is either by buying online, or picking a day when I feel confident enough to walk into one of those things (breathing deeply and slowly before going in) and then just doing it - then the next time, it's not as bad, and so on, so I can do it if I have to. But then I'm often disappointed at the limited selection you find in HMV and so on - it's like all they sell is the top 50 stuff, and here in Canada, with our population only one-tenth of the US's, you're not as likely to find the stuff that isn't really popular - sometimes you can find "Best hits" types but if you're trying to replace all your old vinyl stuff from the 60s and 70s, you're lucky to find them. As far as children's books go, as a kid I loved the Enid Blyton ones called "The [Whatever} of Adventure." There was the Sea of Adventure, The Valley of Adventure and so on. I liked Winnie the Pooh and Wind in the Willows as a kid but recently, when i went back to read them, I was a bit disappointed - they're all so darn guy-centred, like some snooty English boarding-school disguised as the woods or the meadow. I read once that A.A. Milne originally had all his characters in the Pooh books - including Kanga - be male... until someone reminded him that in order for a kangaroo to have a baby roo in her pocket, he would have to be a she. Did anyone ever read any of the books of E. Nesbitt? She was an Edwardian writer - one of the ones I loved that she wrote was "[number of ...5?] Children and It" about these kids that found this creature called a sand fairy in a pit - it caused them all sorts of problems and I don't remember much else about it, but I did love it. Someone mentioned the Eloise books - I loved those too. I wanted to live in a hotel like Eloise and get into all the trouble she used to - and the illustrations are priceless. I also enjoyed "The Princess and the Goblin" by Mc or Macdonald. Also anything about King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table, or anything about witches or magic. There's nothing like a good kid's book - if it's really good, adults will enjoy them as much as, if not more than (or on a different level from) kids, as the Harry Potter phenomenon proves. I've read all the Harry Potters and can't wait for the movie... and the next book! Between Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings coming out around the same time, well, I haven't been this excited about movies for a long time - let's just hope they live up to the hype. The trailers look good, but with a lot of films, the trailer shows you the best stuff! I don't think we'll be disappointed with these two though. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:57:52 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Eating Joni - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > An introduction to this one could've been nice but > i'm too hungry. So, friends, here's the full list of > every food and drink that's mentioned on Joni's > lyrics and albums. Enjoy your joni meal. > Ha! This is great! Thanks for doing that! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:06:58 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Boston Public(njc) I just watched the season premier of Boston Public tonight. I was curious to see what direction they would go as I really enjoyed this program last year. All in all, I was fairly disappointed and I think its just going to go down hill. It's the same scenarios and same themes just slightly different and over sensationalized. And the whole hand thing was totally creepy. Any other opinions? Maybe I'll go back to just watching the Simpsons. I was so delighted to discover this weekend that the first season is available on DVD and a new one will be released every year. I'll have to put it on my Christmas list... Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:17:50 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: children's & other books NJC > Dr. Suess goes without saying. > Dr. Seuss and the Oz books were my favorites. Particularly 'The Patchwork Girl of Oz' and 'Glinda of Oz'. I also liked 'Alice in Wonderland' quite a lot. I think I was a young adult by the time I finally read 'The Wind in the Willows' but when I did finally get to it, I found it to be utterly enchanting. I was in my 30s when I read the Narnia Chronicles but I did enjoy them. Loved finding out where Joni got the title for 'The Dawntreader'. I never was a fast reader (I'm still slow) and I think it was a serious detriment throughout my formal education. Like Colin, I don't think I ever read a book that was assigned to me in middle school or high school. Faked my way through all of them. But ironically I developed a fascination for long novels when I was about 13 or so. I remember checking Michener's 'Hawaii' out of the public library & renewing it and renewing it and renewing it again & again! But I finally got through it! I first read 'Gone With the Wind' when I was about 14. Also 'Dr. Zhivago'. In high school I tackled 'Atlas Shrugged' and 'War and Peace' in my junior year. Took me forever to get through these books but I guess I'm possessed of an inordinate amount of tenacity when it comes to some things. Also read 'The Lord of the Rings' for the first time in high school. Growing up I liked to read the books that the various movies I saw were based on. Sometimes you discover good literature that way. Not always. I still do this, but I think the books the movies I like now are based on are a bit better quality than they might have been back when I was a kid. Having seen 'Orlando' and 'Mrs. Dalloway' I subsequently discovered the fascinating writing style of Virginia Woolf. Merchant/Ivory led me to read E. M. Forster & I certainly don't regret that. I've also read all of Jane Austen's published novels (Colin don't worry about 'Northanger Abbey' - you didn't miss much - my least favorite & her weakest work, imo) partly out of seeing all of the film adaptations that came out in the 90s. She was a wonderful writer and her books are full of so many truths about what it is to be human. Ok, that's enough for now lest I begin to sound like a pretentious bore. (oops! too late.) Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:18:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Boston Public(njc) Victor, I agree...the hand thing was way too weird for me. Not sure what they were thinking on this one. We shall see. Mags np: The Sea - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > I just watched the season premier of Boston Public tonight. I was > curious > to see what direction they would go as I really enjoyed this program > last > year. All in all, I was fairly disappointed and I think its just > going to > go down hill. It's the same scenarios and same themes just slightly > different and over sensationalized. And the whole hand thing was > totally > creepy. Any other opinions? > > Maybe I'll go back to just watching the Simpsons. I was so delighted > to > discover this weekend that the first season is available on DVD and > a new > one will be released every year. I'll have to put it on my Christmas > list... > > Victor > > > > > > Victor Johnson > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, > Come when you lay down your head. > While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, > That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." > Scarlet-V. Johnson ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:19:34 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Athens performance (njc) Fresh back from the Dead tour, I'll be doing my first solo performance in Athens this Friday. It will be at The Bean'ry, a local coffeeshop, a very cool place with lots of couches, christmas lights, candles, and a mural on the wall. If any of y'all from Atlanta or anywhere else want to drive up, I'd be glad to see you. Details are below. Victor Johnson at The Bean'ry 510 Thomas Street Athens, Georgia 30601 (706)425-9911 Starts about 9:30 with opening act no cover Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:37:05 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: more children's books NJC Victor said: I also enjoyed the "Over Sea Under Stone" series by Susan (something or other). It might have been my earliest introduction to fantasy, and then I was hooked. Susan Cooper! yes, those are awesome books. Very scary. I just wish Jane were a spunkier character - she isn't the greatest role model - what a wimp! And the only girl in the books! Did anyone besides myself get really into the Betsy-Tacy books by Maud Hart Lovelance? I used to love those - and in fact, "Betsy-Tacy" was my first chapter book, left under my pillow by the "tooth fairy". A wayyy better exchange for a tooth than 25 cents! - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:15:15 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)Book disease, pix from Newport, Colin's yahoo group link. Hi, all, Just checked out that Yahoo link that Colin listed (he asked "Is this a joke or what?"). I think it's either a joke, or a painfully obvious attempt on the part of someone (I hate to say a 3-letter organization, but who knows?) to see if they can snag some people sypathetic to OBL. (By the way, has anyone else noticed that his name is variously spelled with an O or a U, and Laden is sometimes spelled with an "i" where the "e" is here.) Robert and I just got our pictures back from our trip, including a couple from the beach at Newport, RI. We discovered that there was a showing of sculpture built up of found objects, driftwood, etc. One, called "Surrender" shows a figure made of found wood in a position of surrender (kneeling on the sane with his hands up); another, a wall with a bend in it made out of I don't know what, reads: O Great Safety, Protect us from life. We relinquish all common sense, personal responsibility, spirit of adventure and risk. We bask in thy litigious glow. May thy concern permeate every object in our world. The beach show was dated from some date in September to sometime in November (I know, I should have written it down, but I had no pen or paper with me), but it's interesting to think whether any of the pieces were affected by 9/11. I think not, given how long it takes to put together a piece from concenption to execution, which makes these two pieces all the more interesting. Re: The book disease. I have it big time. I even joined the Folio Society (of Cambridge Publishing) right before I left for R.I., then forgot about it until I got this huge package from them today. A wonderful four-vol. collection about ancients cultures (Hittites, Babylonians, Egyptians and Persians), and a Biographical dictionary which *did* list Joni (with only minor errors), but didn't list Laura Nyro, *did* list Paul Simon, but not Carly Simon, etc. So probabvly no good for musical figures, but okay for historical/literary figures. But I do have a lot of books of all kinds, and *like* it -- not that there's anything wrong with that... Smiles, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC - --- Leslie Ross wrote: > Being a completely lazy git, I bought the unabridged > recordings read by our > tremendous Stephen Fry. Read (hah!) all four now. I > like them a lot and have > bought a ticket for the special preview of the movie > and how sad is all > that! > Not sad at all! speaking of recordings/books on tape/whatever, do these usually cover the whole book, or are many of them abridged? My daughter is dyslexic - - she can read, but it takes her forever and she's lucky to read two complete pages in an hour before she just gets tired of it, so often I read to her. I'd like to get some of these books on tape (at the library!) for her and I know a lot of these have actors and so on reading them, but I've never checked these out at all. Would appreciate any recommendations anyone here might have for this. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:24:07 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Valerio! I have it on good authority that one of our Italian JMDLers, Mario DeTullio, is this day celebrating the 6 week birthday of his second son, Valerio. I rejoice for the blessings of new life, a new child, in Mario's family! "Mario De Tullio" In case you want to send a message -- (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:24:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: cheese steak njc - --- Mags N Brei wrote: > A Cheese steak is a South Philadelphia (PA) > delicacy. > > It is an amount (4-8 oz) of minute steak (thin, > frozen beef) fried on a > griddle (solid cooking surface) with a glop of > butter or oil. Yow! I can feel my arteries clogging up just reading that! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:42:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Harry Potter NJC - --- colin wrote: > The good thing about the film, from the clips I have > seen, is that it looks just as I imagined it to > look, characters and scenery are all faithfull to > the book., the first one. I guess they must be > thinking of making 4 films as this film is just the > first book Harry Potter and The Philosophers Stone. Yes - they're about to start on the 2nd one. I read that Kenneth Branaugh (sp?) is going to play Gilderoy Lockhart - a good choice, I'd say. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:12:46 EST From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: smashing pumpkins - njc Definitely a Philadelphia thing...and a very good one at that. My fam. moved to Philly when I was in High School, and it was the thing that I was surprised the most when I missed them. I've never had a cheesesteak as good anywhere else...whatever that means. A couple of years ago when ex Mayor Ed Rendell was campaigning for a slimmer, healthier Philadelphia, he even went so far as to suggest a lower fat substitute (not even joking, I might add...everybody eats the freakin' things), but I'm afraid that we all decided that we'd rather just deal with the consequences. Reuben (back in Philly, mostly for the cheesesteaks) Deb said...>>Never heard of a cheese steak! I guess it's most famously a Philadelphia thing, but I thought it had spread around the country. It's basically a hot hero, or hot submarine, or hot grinder, or whatever you call that kind of sandwich in your region, with either sliced or shredded beef, melted or semi-melted cheese, and fried onions. Some have tomatoe sauce too, and some people put hot peppers on them. Tres gourmet.<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:23:34 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Christmas CDs (SJC) My favorite is by the "Persuasions" and it's called, "You're All I Want For Christmas." This is the same group that sang back-up for Joni during the Shadows & Light tour. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:33:55 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Children's Books (NJC) Steve wrote: > Frightfully politically incorrect in some quarters these days, > but I've always loved W. E. Johns' Biggles books, and thanks > to a friend on the Biggles list, just completed my collection - > there's around 100 of them. > > I'm not sure if I got a love of aircraft and flying from the > books, or got into the books because I loved aircraft... One of the funniest things I've ever heard is Michael Palin (from Monty Python-fame) reading a story he wrote called "Biggles Goes To See Bruce Springsteen". It's a bonus track on a cassette I have - Comic Relief - which was a concert in the UK to raise money for charity (mainly Africa-related). Some day when I get the time/energy I'll transcribe it - it's absolutely hilarious! The other very funny "skit" on this cassette is by Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders, with Dawn trying to explain sex and conception to Jennifer. A sample: "A man, right, has got three dangly toilet parts, and the.... yeah, I think it's.... yeah, the middle one.... the middle one, is the important one." It has to be heard to be believed! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:32:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: maugham NJC i have been re-reading the works of w. somerset maugham. i had forgotten how much i love maugham's style and persona. reading these books again that i discovered when i was a teenager has triggered a powerful memory recovery process. for the last weeks i have been attempting an archeological reconstruction of my ego, my SELF, an attempt to remember who i am and what i want by recalling who i once was and what once i wanted. maugham is to me what the madeleine cookie was to proust. as if by magic, in the middle of this funky, ghostly, exhilarating journey into myself, a series of very improbable events have started to happen in my life. the most improbable and wonderful of them all took place last sunday. it is still too early to tell you about it. as soon as the situation is outside the jinx zone, i will be writing about this miraculous turn of events in my life. until then, i remain frivolous little old me. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:45:13 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh NJC Catherine wrote: > I liked Winnie the Pooh and Wind in the Willows as a > kid but recently, when i went back to read them, I was > a bit disappointed - they're all so darn guy-centred, > like some snooty English boarding-school disguised as > the woods or the meadow. I read once that A.A. Milne > originally had all his characters in the Pooh books - > including Kanga - be male... until someone reminded > him that in order for a kangaroo to have a baby roo in > her pocket, he would have to be a she. It's hard to believe now, when you read the stories - Kanga is such a typical "mother". I always laugh thinking about the story of when Rabbit and Pooh kidnapped Roo, and Piglet took his place - Kanga giving him a bath, and Christopher Robin not recognising him because he's a different colour, and renaming him Henry Pootel! I guess it's not so surprising, though, given that the stories were based around his son's toys. I wouldn't imagine a six-year-old boy in the 1920's would have many "female" toys! And that would also explain the "male" orientation of the stories. His poems are far more general. Hell NPIMH - Dave Dobbyn - Language ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:39:34 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: Feed the hungry NJC > From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com > anyone know if this is for real? > > http://www.thehungersite.com Yes, it is for real. I've had it at the top of my bookmark list for over a year now so that whenever I open my list, I'm reminded to visit the Hunger Site. You can only give once a day and a single click doesn't take that long, so I invite everyone to add it to their favourites. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:49:59 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Children's Books (NJC) I have a collection of Johnny Gruelle (with color illusations) books that I can't wait to share with the child (5-6 years old) Steve and I hope to adopt next January. Here's the list: Raggedy Andy Stories (1960) Raggedy Ann's Lucky Pennies (1932) Raggedy Ann Stories (1961) Raggedy Ann in Cookie Land (1960) Raggedy Ann and Andy and the Camel with the Wrinkled Knees (1960) Raggedy Ann's Wishing Pebble (1925) Raggedy Ann and the Golden Butterfly (1961) Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:17:51 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: The Snowman njc Sorry if someone mentioned this already, but in our home one of our favorite books is Raymond Briggs' "The Snowman." It has no text, only pictures, and it's beautiful, charming, and moving. There's also a short film of it, which may be even better in the sense that it has really great, enchanting music wall to wall (there being no dialogue). Its animation is faithful to the original, and our daughter has loved it since she was one year old, as have we. So recently I got the book, too, which she loved (she's two, now), but beware the ending in which the snowman melts. After blithely watching the video for a year, and reading it many times, one day when we got to the last page she burst into tears and got very angry ... she had finally understood impermanence and loss. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:20:30 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: children's books njc colin wrote: >i ddi that with all my books. Never rwad any of them. Apparently. (insert emoticon here) - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 03:27:06 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: The Snowman njc oh yes fred!!! i loved the music! if only i could remember the composer's name. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de FredNow@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 30 de Octubre de 2001 03:18 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: The Snowman njc There's also a short film of it, which may be even better in the sense that it has really great, enchanting music wall to wall (there being no dialogue). - -Fred ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #526 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?