From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #496 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, October 19 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 496 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject to Interpretation (was Re: IRA etal) NJC [HiBill ] from Italy (njc) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Scary thing at work... NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Subject: Anne's CD ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Topsfield fest 2001 NJC ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: larry klein's movie [Nuriel Tobias ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:40:04 -0700 (PDT) From: HiBill Subject: Subject to Interpretation (was Re: IRA etal) NJC Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: However, the history is far removed from that of Alaska and Hawaii, territories which applied for statehood and were accepted as part of the US willfully, with no ongoing secessionist movement. While it may be that Hawaii AS A TERRITORY "applied for statehood and was accepted as part of the US willfully," how it got to be a territory in the first place is another story, and there IS indeed an "ongoing secessionist movement." The kingdom of Hawaii and her Queen were overthrown in 1893 and annexed to the United States in 1898, led by a small group consisting of businessmen and descendants of missionaries, mostly American, with the assistance of American troops. Sadly, the plight of the Native Hawaiians since that time is similar to that of other indigenous peoples (the various tribes of the American Indians and Native Alaskans, for example): decimation of the Native Hawaiian population, loss of land, near-extinction of their language, culture and spiritual beliefs, higher-than-average infant mortality rates, lower life-expectancy rates, higher incidences of diseases such as cancer and heart disease, over-representation on welfare and in prison populations, feelings of disenfranchisement, etc. In November 2000, Congress passed a joint resolution apologizing for the overthrow and the United States' complicity and participation in the events. Within the last twenty years or so, however, there has been a renaissance within the Native Hawaiian community to restore its music, language, cultural/spiritual practices and a growing movement towards sovereignty. What direction that goes -- reparations, return of ceded lands, nation-within-a-nation status or outright secession and complete independence -- remains to be seen. For a more thorough discussion, http://www.hawaii-nation.org Okay, history lesson's over. Sorry to go on so long. Thought it was about time I started contributing, as I have learned SO much from you guys! But I should get back to the music, right? Regards, Bill Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:01:58 EDT From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: My personal setlist (wishlist) for the upcoming orchestral Project. Coyote The Sire of Sorrow (Job'sSad Song) Judgement of the Moon andStars (Ludwig's Tune) For the Roses Just Like This Train The Last Time I Saw Richard Refuge of the Roads Borderline Cherokee Louise The Dawntreader Shadows and Light (With the Master Chorale) Impossible Dreamer Hejira God Must be a Boogie Man Woodstock Cactus Tree Jericho The Beat of Black Wings Shades of Scarlett Conquering Let the Wind Carry Me Blonde in the Bleachers Woman of Heart and Mind Love Songs to Aging Children Come This list includes songs which were already mentioned by Joni in the Billboard article. I know that its a little heavy on FTR tunes but hearing that this record was partly inspired by Beethoven I think it is appropriate. I'd be interested in hearing comments on my list. I'd also be interested in hearing your personal selections for the project regardless of what the eventual outcome will be. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:18:40 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: was JM Biography, now Covers Collection and Jonifest Bob wrote: > I'd be glad to make her copies, but only for blanks & postage, because if > she sent me a check for expenses I'd never cash it! LOL! Although she > could sketch something on a napkin or 3x5 card...that would have some > value as well! I haven't forgotten about my offer to make the wooden box for this, although it might need it's own seat on the plane the way this project is growing (those mileage-plus miles could be useful)! Haven't found the time (or the inspiration I need) just yet, but will attempt a prototype over the coming months, definitely. Kakki and I also discussed this at some length, and thought it would be easy for lots of people to be involved. One person could design a label, one the front cover, one the back cover, one the inside cover, etc., etc. for each CD. With 25+ CDs, there's one hundred people already! Any thoughts from anyone else? Bob? - it's your baby, after all! <> > > And just a quick footnote here...the Bob in question is Mr. Murphy and not me...and it IS outstanding work all the way 'round. I agree - a magnificent job on the Jonifest 2001 web-pages, from all concerned! Every time I read the drunken ramblings of Smurph, Alison, etc. I just about die laughing! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:28:14 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: njc and films Pat queried: > 1. does catherine actually have anthrax? Gawd, I hope not. > 2. does anyone actually leave the list over the ira >thread? i mean, jesus, of all threads to run right now. See answer to # 1 above. > 3. does colin et. all snap on the recently returned steve >dulson for bopping his posts with the full print outs >attached? No snappers seen in these parts yet. > 4. finally thought of some movies i liked: I think all of mine were already named by others here! Lemme think - in no particular order Shawshank Redemption Fantasia Madame X Out of Africa Chocolat Goldfinger The Birds Gandhi Pollyanna North by Northwest Hard Day's Night Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:35:58 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: from Italy (njc) Mario, your English is wonderful. Thank you for your heartfelt post & your perspective. I especially love this, when you wrote: "Europe is much less a single entity than you may think in the US. Speaking about *Europeans* might be useless. Conversely, it is difficult to me to understand the beautiful force that binds Americans (oops, I generalised!) together. This compactness in hard times is probably your major strenght, at least from my *European* point of view." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:36:00 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Scary thing at work... NJC Catherine said "I've had more dealings with the police in the last week than I've ever had in my life and it's not something I care to do too often! At least the cop who came to my house was really cute - looked kind of like Benjamin Bratt would have looked as a teenager - a really YOUNG cop!" This cracks me up. I remember when I lived in a guest house many years ago as a single mom & somewhere in the middle of night or actually early in the morning, there was a knock on my door...I got up in my bedraggled state, answered it & looked up at the most gorgeous hunky fireman i have ever seen in my life, in his fireman suit, checking on what turned out to be a false alarm. For months I thought, if only I had met him under better circumstances.... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:34:40 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Subject: Anne's CD Voice mail for Anne: 864-233-7584 Leave a message 8-3 east coast time (1PM Greenwich Mean Time through 8PM Greenwich Mean Time) Bob Muller said: - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:17:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Anne's CD Isn't Joni just something? (so much for the Joni content) OK, Anne's surgery is scheduled for NEXT Friday, the 26th. So that means if you want to be a part of our "recording" project for her, you still have time. If you've been deleting digests, I'm collecting messages of love, faith & support for Anne and compiling them on a CD to send her. She'll use the messages to draw strength and in a way it'll be like we're there holding her hand. So, if you think it's too late to pitch in, it's not. You can send me a recording, tape or CD, or you can e-mail an Mp3 or a wav. file, or you can just call me and leave a message on my recorder, and through the miracle of modern technology and Playskool toys I'll do the Henry Lewy business! :~) Hey, call from work and it's free! Just be sure to call between the hours of 8-3 east coast time. If you screw up and call at the wrong time (as one of you crazy girls did & you know I love you for it!), no problem, I'll just tell you to call back and I'll let it record. My phone number....864-233-7584 Imagine that YOU are in Anne's place, and about to face something that put you in a place of much anxiety. Wouldn't it be great to hear from your JMDL brothers & sisters to feel the power that comes from this group? I'm not twisting anyone's arm, and I appreciate that everyone responds in the manner that suits them. Thanks for your time...I've gotten a good response, but if you feel so moved to chime in, please do so. Love & peace to ya, Bob NP: Ani, "freakshow" - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 02:12:33 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Topsfield fest 2001 NJC I arrived about the same time. Claud9, in peasant dress, played an acoustic guitar under the idylic afternoon open sky as people arrived. Then Kate, also in a peasant dress, played a few in the front yard. It was exactly as if they both stepped out of a verse of "Ladies Of The Canyon". Jim - --- Megs n' brian wrote "Thanks for making me fall for the picture of Claudia strumming on the front porch." Kate wrote: I LOVE that picture!!!!!!!!!...that's the very first glimpse we got of what was to be...as we pulled up to Ashara's on Friday afternoon...but first we heard them: Yael, Claudia & Les...beautiful strings & heavenly voices...what a welcoming....sigh... - --- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: larry klein's movie The film is called "Sugar Town" (1999). The interesting thing is that Rossana, here playing an actress who falls in love with a musician, had, in her real life, a long romance with...Peter Gabriel! So here's another Joni friend!(What was that My Secret Place film she saw in NYC, mmmm?) - --- Gary Zack > wrote: >> Hi Jenny, >> >> Haven't seen that one but I did discover that Larry also had a very >> fleeting part, as a part of the "band" toward the end of the movie, >> "Loverboy" with Patrick Dempsey. >> >> Guess he pops up in flicks once in awhile! >> >> Best, >> >> Gary >> >> Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > Hey kids, >> > So I'm home sick and I see a movie called Sugar Town in the cable listings. I >> > tune in and see Rosanna Arquette and a bunch of other fringe stars and then >> > on comes this guy who looks vaguely familiar, like I know him for real from >> > somewhere but I can't place him. And he's playing this sleezy music manager >> > type creep. And it turns out to be Larry freakin' Klein! Has anyone else seen >> > this piece of drek? Since when is Larry Klein in the movies???? >> > Love >> > JennyMac _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #496 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?