From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #488 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 488 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: putting it all into perspective (njc) ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: dates and measurements (njc) ["hell" ] eire (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:10:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc why, you are right Lamadoo..one of those things that makes you go hmmmmmm... >>>If bin Lauden uses a microphone and a tv camera to communicate, isn't he breaking his own rules about eschewing technology?? "What up with that?" Lamadoo<<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:42:38 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: putting it all into perspective (njc) Wow! This is some great stuff Anne! I read this to a friend over the phone tonight. I love these words so much. As someone who worries too much, this was so great to read about being aware of what we have rather than what we suddenly lack. It's not even about saying the glass is "half" full. It's about saying there's SOMETHING in the the glass. Then you begin to realize all of the myriad layers of blessings. I love to read your posts, Anne. From Northern Kentukcy, <<>> Lama ps, I'm re-posting your post in its entirety, cause I love it. - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:48:27 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: putting it all into perspective (njc) I've been following the recent political discussions here with much interest. There have been valid points raised by all involved. There have also been many opinions, some I agree with. Others I don't. Kakki mentioned the "suitcase nukes." From what I've read, we think they (al Qaeda) got a hold of some. They may also have some raw radioactive material. It sounds like we don't have proof positive. Still, I assume the best strategy is to figure out who has the technical expertise to use these weapons and arrest them. (Apparently al Qaeda did try to import some former Soviet talent, because they couldn't figure out how to use various technology.) I believe Shane mentioned there being thousands of followers. Yes, that's true. But, in fact, there are probably only (well, you know all things being relative) a few hundred, if that, who are willing and capable of planning and leading a cell to do truly devastating acts. (Look around your company, your city, even this list. How many real leaders are there?) I'm not disputing your point Shane, simply clafifying. The few hundred (or possibly fewer) actually want to "destroy the table." Many thousands more would be content with "a place at the table." If we silence the ones bent on destruction, we have a chance at negotiation. And, for those who wonder what I mean by "silence," I'll point out that it's advantageous from the point of view of investigation that we arrest the destroyers and not destroy them. Often the destroyers are arrogant enough to boast of their acts and future plans. We need that information. I'm sure we all feel threatened. And we are. But, before you let that threat ruin your life and take all joy, just look at the sky, the earth under your feet, the house next door. They're still here. Feel your breath. You're still here. We all have today. We have each other. What we don't have is immortality. We do have the ability not to let our death walk with us. Kakki wondered privately how I could remain positive in my situation. It's because today I breathe. I don't let my death walk with me. lots of love Anne - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:46:22 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: pacifist poet NJC hey all- poking my nose up out of my papers to thank pat for his kind words. thanks, pat! all i can say to the pacifist poet idea is that I wish I could call myself a poet, but i'm really not. hugs to all, Yael Pat wrote: >my only other post on this issue came after reading several pacifist posts in >a row. i met yael at a fest in michigan. she's a beautiful person and has a >beautiful heart. i felt badly afterwards for posting about the pacifist >poets. and i understand kate's feelings on this as well. and vince too. i >do understand the conflict in thought. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:22:42 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: dates and measurements (njc) Bree wrote: > Hell, I never thought about "and" concerning macaroni and cheese. Maybe > because they are two separate things that one puts together. Tomato sauce > and or catsup, do all NZers do this? Or is this something exclusive to your > family? No, tomato sauce is known as tomato sauce throughout NZ. The most popular brand is Watties (NZ equivalent to Heinz), referred to by my friends as "J. Watties", ie. if it's not J. Watties, it's not tomato sauce. Same with macaroni cheese. Although Watties is a dirty word in our family since my stupid great-grandfather was asked by James Wattie to go into business with him when he first started out, but he "couldn't see any future in canned goods". I could be rich, damn it! Catsup is catching on (usually called ketchup) thanks to McDonalds with those annoying little plastic sachets (that never put the damn stuff where you want it - mine usually ends up coming out the wrong end, or missing the fries entirely, and going all over my foot). > >More US to NZ translations: > > > And when we eat, the fork stays in the left hand, and > >the knife stays in the right - the whole time. > > Even if one is right-handed? (I saw a movie, can't recall the title, this > guy, who I believe was a spy or Nazi, slipped up while dining and switched > utensils to opposite hand after cutting his meat...anyway, he gave himself > away. The others at the table saw his deadly mistake and knew he wasn't who > he said he was) Is there a lesson here? Especially if one is right-handed! Half my family is right-handed, and half left-handed, but we all use a knife and fork the same way, ie. in the same hands. I don't think I've ever seen a left-handed person eat differently, although maybe I just haven't noticed. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 02:41:54 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: eire (njc) i went to eire for the first time in 1980. i took a ferry from liverpool to dublin, and from there i traveled by train to killarney and cork. it was early spring, and i spent almost a month visiting small towns and meeting the people. the countryside was peaceful and melancholy. the ladies whose rooms i rented were friendly and offbeat. millions of pictures of john paul ii all over the place. big sausages for breakfast every morning. i watched the tele with my landladies in the evening, and they commented the news for me in that irish way: musical, colorful, slightly zany. my landlady in dublin was very happy that i went to mass on sunday but scolded me severely because i took two showers and paid for only one. [apparently, my showers were too long by irish standards and they counted for two at the time of payment.] i fell in love with ireland. and have you noticed that all the irish are good-looking? one drop of irish blood will make you beautiful. wallyK ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #488 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?