From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #484 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 484 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- just a hello! ["Stephen Epstein" ] Fw: Letter from an Aussie NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] SF Get Together & Happy Birthday [Leslie Mixon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:31:00 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: just a hello! "I'm sure we all feel threatened. And we are. But, before you let that threat ruin your life and take all joy, just look at the sky, the earth under your feet, the house next door. They're still here. Feel your breath. You're still here. We all have today. We have each other. What we don't have is immortality. We do have the ability not to let our death walk with us. Kakki wondered privately how I could remain positive in my situation. It's because today I breathe. I don't let my death walk with me. lots of love Anne" Anne, Your perspective is truly beautiful! And you are an inspiration to us all. Thank you from my heart for such timely thoughts. Hoping you are well, and wishing I was able to give you an even bigger hug! Love Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:44:21 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Fw: Letter from an Aussie NJC This was forwarded to me by a friend of mine who reads a lot of editorial pieces. I thought it might be of interest to some of you. I found this opinion piece from an Australian, on the Russian based news site (www.moscowtimes.com). Contains some great points. Friday, Oct. 12, 2001. Page 9 6 Points for Tackling Terrorism by the Roots Letters Editor, In the aftermath of the tragic events of Sept. 11 and military strikes against Afghanistan, the danger looms of an endless cycle of violence and retribution. Past experience shows that an effective campaign to address the situation should be guided by six main principles. 1. Bringing the perpetrators to justice based on lawful procedure and respect for the rights and safety of innocent civilians. A long history of attempts to combat terrorism shows that a military quid pro quo for terrorism usually fails, causes immense human suffering, and has unpredictable consequences, or "blowback." The most prudent course is to apprehend suspects legally without responding with inappropriate force that kills innocent civilians and provokes new threats. Military force should only be used to advance the rule of law within an international legal framework. 2. Unequivocal condemnation of all acts of terrorism. Unless there is condemnation of all acts, methods, and practices of terrorism, the so-called coalition against terrorism will be an opportunistic, tactical one rather than a long-term, broadly supported, strategic one. A viable coalition will distinguish between terrorism and legitimate acts of resistance. The tragic irony is that terrorists such as Osama bin Laden were hailed as freedom fighters in the 1980s by many governments that labeled Nelson Mandela a terrorist. To Our Readers Has something you've read here startled you? Are you angry, excited, puzzled or pleased? Do you have ideas to improve our coverage? Then please write to us. All we ask is that you include your full name, the name of the city from which you are writing and a contact telephone number in case we need to get in touch. We look forward to hearing from you. Email the Opinion Page Editor 3. Avoiding the strategic escalation of conflict and a new Cold War. An open-ended war on an ill-defined enemy risks the destabilization of many regions, including those of central, south, and southwest Asia. Beyond a limited war in Afghanistan is the possibility of conflict in central Asia, a geostrategic location at the intersection of Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran. Many states want access to central Asia's vast reserves of oil and natural gas. The climate for rapprochement between the two most powerful nuclear states of Russia and the United States is currently favorable. Whether it remains so will depend on how far the West is prepared to push this regional realignment and struggle for power and resources. 4. Refocusing government resources on prevention and solving social, economic and environmental problems. A 2001 United Nations report on terrorism is adamant as to the responsibility of all states to act on the underlying causes of terrorism: "Were all states to do this in an unbiased way, the incidence of terrorist acts would dramatically decline." Poverty, famine, mass movements of refugees, and brutal and corrupt regimes fuel frustration and desperation. While no root cause justifies terrorism, to ignore causal factors is to increase the risk of future terrorist acts. Resources reallocated from the Pentagon to fund projects in health, education, economic development, and violence prevention could help rebuild many local communities worldwide and start a process of establishing a new international security system. 5. Vigilance against racial vilification, the violation of civil liberties and the use of apocalyptic language. There are many legitimate security measures such as improved protection of ports and airports and coordination of emergency services. In a climate of fear, we run a heightened risk of not only the curtailment of civil liberties and human rights, but also of generalized racism and religious intolerance. Loose talk of a war to "rid the world of evil" lends dangerous credence to those terrorists who do believe the world is caught in an eschatological confrontation between good and evil. 6. A comprehensive strategy under the auspices of the United Nations and linked to nongovernmental organizations. To formulate a multi-issue strategy that goes beyond the current focus of governments on symptoms and single issues such as terrorism and drug trafficking, there must be a high-level conference under the auspices of the UN. Finally, for an effective campaign against terrorism to proceed, a reformed UN needs new models for non-governmental and civic involvement in domains of global governance historically dominated by states. Nicholas Abbey Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:58:46 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: SF Get Together & Happy Birthday Hello Darice: I'd be interested in attending a Bay Area get together. And Happy Birthday to the Culinary Queen, Maggie McNally, a fair lassie if there ever was one! Leslie ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #484 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?