From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #471 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 10 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 471 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: October 9 [les@jmdl.com] RE: Burning CDs - NJC ["Ron Greer" ] Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] fest pics (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Mandolins (was Brushes with greatness) njc [] Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) [Kammass@aol.com] The Wanderer is born! [Susan McNamara ] Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Burning CDs - NJC [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Les Ross NJC ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc)/ brush with stardome in alabama (njc) [Kam] HB LES... NJC [Steve Polifka ] Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) [Richard Goldman ] Virus alert etc NJC ["brian symes" ] thanks to wally ["Dolphie Bush" ] war-njc ["Dolphie Bush" ] depression njc [Phyliss Ward ] Re: depression njc ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: depression njc [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] RE: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC ["patrick leader" ] Vanity Fair w/Joni Due Out Next Tuesday [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Vanity Fair w/Joni Due Out Next Tuesday ["Kakki" ] Re: war-njc ["Kakki" ] Re: depression njc ["Kakki" ] Re: depression njc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Watch Letterman tonight? Leona Naess NJC ["Brenda J. Walker" Subject: RE: Burning CDs - NJC hi >>Catherine McKay wrote >>- most of what I'm copying (most, not all, OK?) is >>stuff I already have on vinyl or tape but I want it on >>CD so I can listen to it in the car or on my Discman. i have around 2 cds of "pirated" music which i downloaded, & the only reason i have not upgraded to commercial cds is because i cant find them anywhere (anyone ever heard of sylvio rodriguez - a spanish language singer/songwriter who sings some songs that are so beautiful they bring tears to my eyes - without understanding a word he says....) generally i find that after downloading i listen for a while, then toss the mp3, usually because of sound problems, & go & buy the commercial release. so i really dont feel bad about downloading. >>Windows Media and you ask it to record [a playlist] to >>a CD. But I can't figure out where Adaptec really >>lives in my PC, so I can figure out what else it can >>do and I find this really frustrating. I've gone >>through Windows Explorer, but I can't seem to find it! to find the adaptec executable file, try looking in the default location: c:\program files\adaptec\easy CD Creator 4\createcd\createcd.exe i would suggest using "createcd.exe" because it is a menu which gives you the option of compiling a data cd, an audio cd, a cd cover, or doing a straight cd copy. >>I have no idea why it wouldn't support whatever these >>files are - when you check the properties, there >>doesn't seem to be anything to suggest it's any >>different than any of the other stuff you've >>downloaded. as far as adaptec not supporting some mp3's - most people dont realise that there are different types of mp3 codings, (eg - lame, blade) and variants of those types as well, (constant bit rate, and variable bit rate), so its probably just a compatibility problem. >>thing resides, so I can do the CD labels and covers >>without having to create my own from scratch, >>basically just guessing if the size is OK (having done >>it a few times, I think I've got it pretty close, but >>not quite good enough!) i have got a couple of templates for ms-word which someone on another list gave me. templates for single cd, double cd, & four cd jewel cases which all work great. i would be happy to forward those on to anyone who would like a copy. ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:26:43 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC Ditto Les!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "hell" To: "Leslie Ross" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:54 AM Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC > Wallyk wrote: > > > late as usual! happy birthday [october 8... oops] les ross!!!!!!! > > Happy birthday, Les! Hope you had/have a great day. > > love Hell > ____________________________ > "To have great poets, there must be > great audiences too." - Walt Whitman > > hell@ihug.co.nz > Hell's Personal Photo Page: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm > > Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: > http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 04:40:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Burning CDs - NJC dear ron, silvio rodrmguez' entire catalogue is available in buenos aires. [rodrmguez is cuban. he was enormously popular in argentina in the 80's]. if there's anything i can get for you, let me know. incidentally, if you like rodrmguez, you will enjoy the music of pablo milanis too. and you would love silvio rodrmguez' lyrics. wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:55:34 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC Wallyk wrote: <> Oh Happy Happy Birthday to the most adorable man on the JMDL! Hope you had a wonderful day Les! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:04:45 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: fest pics (NJC) Stephen wrote: <>> I just noticed them last night! Great job Ashara, Murphy and Les! Plus to all of the contributing photographers, I thank you. I particularly like the photo of Mags and Brian, and the wonderful caption which reads "Brian has a big surprise for Mags." Just where were your hands Mags? LOL Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:16:48 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC Happy Birthday Les from London!!!! ~rose rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:37:23 +0100 From: Subject: Re: Mandolins (was Brushes with greatness) njc This reminds me of a great scene in the Karen O'Brien book. Joni and Joel Bernstein are in a taxi going downtown to the Staten Island ferry to go get that mandolin. The taxi passes a bridal shop and she says :" Joel did you see that ? that bridal gown over there ? some girl is going to see that and go crazy." Just the way it ended up in the song. I think overall the book is a fine piece of work due to insider accounts like the above and detailed levels of research. There is some recycling of press clippings, reviews, and mundane information from album credits. The bonkers jmdl emails about a man having composed Winter Lady and Urge For Going are mentioned as "curious". I found that very funny. Karen O'Brien adopts the tone of a stern schoolmistress when she writes that fans and critics have often wondered who certain songs are about : "pick a name, any name. Each 'relationship' song is help up to the light, scrutinised, examined for clues and hidden secrets, energised by a reluctance to accept mystery, to accept that it's good to be puzzled sometimes." Ignoring her own advise she turns around and gives her own analysis, thus : Richard is Chuck, See You Sometime must be Taylor because he wore braces on Mud Slide Slim, Same Situation is "Warren Beattyish" etc etc etc. I guess it's ok for unauthorised book writers to interpret :) Philip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:33:57 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) In a message dated 10/8/2001 5:22:07 PM Central Daylight Time, courtandspark@earthlink.net writes: > Some guy named David Grisman > did the mandolin playing. Awesome. > THE BEST MANDOLIN PLAYER EVER!!! CHECK OUT SOME GRISMAN AND GARCIA!! MY FAVORITE "NOT FOR KIDS ONLY"!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:55:48 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: The Wanderer is born! Let me take a big deep breath before I do this After about 3 years of procrastination on my part I have finally taken the steps needed to give birth to the Wanderer, a companion mailing list to the JMDL Guitar Site . This list welcomes any discussion on Joni Mitchell's guitar style, the JMDL guitar site, or any other artist that utilizes alternate tunings. If you are interested in checking it out, please subscribe in this manner: email to majordomo@smoe.org with the command subscribe wanderer in the body of the email. or you can decide to join the digest by emailing majordomo@smoe.org with the command subscribe wanderer-digest in the body of the email. "A wanderer has no fixed abode, his home is the road ..." take care, sue PS A big big THANKS! to Les for helping me get this dream started [that includes the GUITAR SITE that had its 5th birthday this summer (and boy is she pissed at me because I forgot to send her a birthday card!)] :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:14:22 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) < did the mandolin playing. Awesome.>> Thanks for the reminder, Bammy Kammy...I also meant to comment on this statement, which hit me like someone saying "some guy named Jimi Hendrix did the guitar playing.." I don't consider myself a huge fan, but I did pick up a Grisman record back in the 80's called "Mondo Mando", and it was/is gorgeous stuff! He actually began a whole 'nuther genre of music called 'dawg grass', or something like that. Anyway, he's very fine, he can even hold his own with our superb Mr. Mixon! :~) Didn't know that was him on that Ronstadt tune, though, so that was cool to hear. And the mandolin is no easy instrument to play, either...I remember my sister deciding to take mando lessons and dropping it after ONE session! Bob NP: Neil, "Down By The River", 9/30/00 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:29:33 EDT From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: RE: Burning CDs - NJC As far as labels go...you can also purchase -for not much at all- pre cut lables for standard and slim jewel cases, that also come with sticky labels for the actual discs. Software comes with the labels, so you can do it through the program that comes with the labels. This is great for someone like me who has a very hard time measuring and cutting a straight line. I've seen them at staples, best buy, etc. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:37:10 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC Reuben3rd@aol.com wrote: > As far as labels go...you can also purchase -for not much at all- pre cut lables for standard and slim jewel cases, that also come with sticky labels for the actual discs. Software comes with the labels, so you can do it through the program that comes with the labels. This is great for someone like me who has a very hard time measuring and cutting a straight line. I've seen them at staples, best buy, etc. I've used Ultimate Label Printer for years. It is shareware. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:52:06 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Les Ross NJC Hey Les, Hope your birthday was one filled with happiness and joy! All the best to you. Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:23:02 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc)/ brush with stardome in alabama (njc) Hubby and I saw the David Grisman Quintet about 2 yrs ago. Besides Grisman's mandolin playing, Joe Craven was unbelievable. Check him out, the best percussionist/everything player ever! Other Grisman favorites... So What - with Jerry, Act-2-with Jerry, Dawgwood-David Grisman Quintet, and Joe Craven-Camptown. Also, saw Arlo Guthrie playing at the same concert hall with the Birmingham Symphony, maybe 2 yrs ago. Was the most wonderful thing ever! A night with Arlo in a Tux! My only brush with stardom, after City Stages a few years back getting to meet him and getting his autograph. Sports star - Bo Jackson, duh. That's about it here in Alabama. Don't here of too many stars round these parts. Kammy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:26:42 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: HB LES... NJC Happy Birthday, Les! You handsome talented man you! Hugs from the third coast, Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:57:15 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) Walt, You *did* go to the Fair after all that with Robert?~!?@! I for sure thought you weren't coming, otherwise, I would have done the "cellphone/find-me/let's meet at..." thing. You didn't, however, miss much on the Main Stage. The great Garrin Benfield's set was reduced to a mere 8 minutes due to poor stage management, and . . .he was the only one who even mentioned waking up to the bombing, the sadness, and he sang 2 songs, appropriate: one about letting go (I Let You Go) and the other very melancholy and a sing-a-long: I cried. Anyway... sorry to reply so publicly, but I just wanted to say, have a great trip back east. Richard in San Francisco > >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:07 PM >Subject: Was that a mandolin? (njc) > > >> Hi, all, >> >> I went to the Castro Street Fair here in Sf yesterday, hoping to run into >> several people (including fellow jmdler Richard -- I got there later than >I'd >> hoped, and I never found him). Anyway, it was great fun, especially (for >me) >> the Swing/Big Band dj stage, where all sorts of couples were dancing to >some >> of the best pop music of the century. It was especially fun to see too >genX >> boys dressed in baggy shorts/watch cap /90's clothing very competently >> dancing to swing; the smaller guy couldn't have weighed more than 80 lbs, >> which made it easier for the other guy to swing him into the air (he >always >> landed perfectly, like a jonicat, on his feet). There was also a woman >> dressed in perfect late40's/early50's men's clothes and a perfectly >coiffed >> pompadour dancing at one point with a boy dressed exactly the same way. >> >> Finally getting to my question: There was a man sitting on a chair >playing >> what I *think* was some kind of mandolin -- it was a string instrument in >a >> frame which he had on his lap, and which he played with these metal >> "fingernail extender" picks, about 2 inches long. I don't think I've ever > > seen anything like it; the music was lovely (although hard to hear in all >> the surrounding din). Was this some kind of mandolin, or something else? >> Sorry to be such a musical ignoramus. >> >> Parting thought: There was a surreality to the whole day; I'd been up >since >> 4 a.m. since my main squeeze Robert's face had exploded with an abscess >> (combination of bad dental work and no immune system), and we had to spend >> most of the morning at KaiserPerm. Then getting home and hearing about >the >> war, and (Robert insisted I get out of the house -- he's okay, by the way, >or >> will be) going to the fair. >> >> Life goes on. >> >> Peace to all, >> > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:39:18 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara Bob & everyone, after going over Amelia last night I am having doubts about doing this song at this time of the world...What do you guys think? << i think i will do night ride home & amelia...we will do circle game all together as a group at the end of the night... >> That'll be great, Kate...besides Joni's, the only versions I've heard of NRH have been guys...oops, take that back, Terry M. does a great version on the "Tape of You" project. Almost forgot ya' there, T! Bob NP: Maggie's Farm ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 13:11:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara <> Of course, it's totally your call, Kate...it's a beutiful love song using failed images of flight (Icarus, Amelia Earhart) in correspondence with a failed love affair. I don't see anything that would be offensive, certainly. Could actually be a song of healing...even when *I* sang it I drew some tears. Bob NP: Neil, "Ordinary People" 8/27/88 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:04:19 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC Happy Birthday to my ladder partner! Have a super month!!! Love...Sharon hell wrote: > > Wallyk wrote: > > > late as usual! happy birthday [october 8... oops] les ross!!!!!!! > > Happy birthday, Les! Hope you had/have a great day. > > love Hell > ____________________________ > "To have great poets, there must be > great audiences too." - Walt Whitman > > hell@ihug.co.nz > Hell's Personal Photo Page: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm > > Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: > http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:32:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: JoniFest 2001 pics (NJC) From http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/displayall.cfm?startrecs=221: "Marcel shows that he is liberally blessed with talent!" THAT's funny! (Also true!) Great job on the pics, everyone!!! Lori in MD ~ Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:05:45 -0700 From: "brian symes" Subject: Virus alert etc NJC 1. I just deleted a Hahaha@sexyfun virus email received to me on my About 2 Happy Birthday to Maestro Les, I just had mine on October 2 Being a Libra has always gotten me in trouble for overstanding not understanding, and having a plan A but thinking about Plan B at the same time. 3. Thanks listers for help on other Amelia's 4. Tuesday at work is a NO JONI day I have to listen to National Public Radio, the person who has decided this even printed out little coupon cards on it it says JONI-FREE DAY valid from 7am-5pm. My day is Tommorow shall I play Joni all Day Hmmmm. Brian Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:23:23 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: thanks to wally thanks to the dear Wally Kairuz, I am now once again, after so very long, enjoying carole king and thoroughbred. I had forgotten just how wonderful carole was and she is definitely, to me, right up there with Joni concerning her talent and her vision. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:01:49 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: war-njc this war business is heating up into a furor that is making me quite uncomfortable, almost taking me back to when i was a young boy, when I can remember coming home from school every day and each night they would have the vietnam report and the casualty list. I can imagine those of you in larger areas that are in the mainstream of the world have already been feeling this kind of thing. it has even hit home here in the middle of nowhere. scares me. I don't like the feeling. guess it will take a change of mindset for we americans. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:13:58 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: depression njc Since September 11th I've been in a state of depression in varying degrees. In general, I take pride in myself on being a very upbeat, easy-going, person. I've always seemed to be able to keep myself up and postive. Now I find myself near the edge of a deep depression. I'm sleeping more, eating more, and generally have to force myself to do what I have to do. I know there are things I should be doing like getting more exercise, eating more healthily, etc. But I can't seem to make myself do these things. It's been going on too long and I don't like it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is feeling this but thought I would share and see if anyone has any words of wisdom that might help those of us that are experiencing this out of it. Or maybe I just want to be reassured that I'm not the only one. - -- Phyliss mailto:phyliss@goldenfigclay.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:00:12 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: depression njc > It's been going on too long and I don't > like it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is feeling this but thought > I would share and see if anyone has any words of wisdom that might help > those of us that are experiencing this out of it. Or maybe I just want > to be reassured that I'm not the only one. > Phyllis, I've felt like that too lately, ever since September 11. But in a strange way, it has forced me to try a little harder sometimes, to more fully appreciate the beauty that surrounds me, and to not just give up on things. At the time the terrorist attacks took place, I was already dealing with a lot of stress and pressure, and sometimes it has brought me down. But then I realize, I'm very fortunate to be here and to be able to pursue my dreams and aspirations and that there is no better time than now. So I've been kind of slow and laid back about things but then I feel this desire to hit the ground running and make things happen. As I don't know many people here in Athens yet, I've spent alot of time alone but I think that has been a good thing because in Atlanta, there were always people around but everything was always the same and kind of dull really and here in Athens, there seems so many more possiblities though I have to still discover them. Today, inspired by Kate and Less Ross(happy birthday!), I forced myself to learn Amelia in standard tuning, played it over and over, and have successfully memorized all the lyrics and have really gotten into the heart of the song and now more fully realize, how deeply moving a song it is. Speaking of moving songs, I thought I'd also print the lyrics to a song my friend Mark Richard wrote that always speaks to me. Let Love in Your Heart by Mark Richard Flying down the highway, Trying to get ahead. Don't forget the people, Who just need to be fed, To be fed, Daily bread. All I'm saying, Is let love in your heart. All I'm saying, Is let love in your heart. Sitting here together, In the lap of luxury. While so many of our brothers, Are just to dying to be free, To be free, Can't you see. All I'm saying, Is let love in your heart. All I'm saying, Is let love in your heart. You won't fear the darkness, Once you've seen the light. Love will make you stronger, When you're doing what is right, What is right, With all your might. All I'm saying, Is let love in your heart. All I'm saying. Is let love in your heart. Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:10:44 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: depression njc In a message dated 10/09/2001 4:16:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, phyliss@goldenfigclay.com writes: << I'm sure I'm not the only one who is feeling this but thought I would share and see if anyone has any words of wisdom that might help those of us that are experiencing this out of it. Or maybe I just want to be reassured that I'm not the only one. >> Oh, Phyliss: I am so sorry this is happening to you, but I completely understand. I haven't really felt depressed, but I have noticed myself looking at things differently. It's like a new reality that I don't like. Everytime I stand below the downtown LA highrise in which I work, I wonder what it felt like to be in the WTC. Just an average work day, when everything changed forever. When I flew into Las Vegas on Sunday, I looked at the tall buildings and crowds in a whole new way. Thinking about what could happen. I didn't feel totally at ease last night in the packed theater presenting the very entertaining O show. I hated seeing the soldiers and rifles at LAX, yet felt safer with their presence. I feel strange going through four levels of security to get to my office. I'm uneasy about flying to Toronto on Friday. I call home a lot more now than I used to call. Having said all that, I don't have a clue how many times multiplied my uneasiness would feel if I lived in NYC and saw with my own eyes what those heroes saw. I also can't imagine what it would be like to be forced to leave my home (for my personal safety) like so many are doing in the Middle East. I also don't know what it's like to wonder where my next meal is coming from. I can't imagine waiting for food to be dropped from airplanes, but can imagine how grateful I would feel. My aunt told me these feelings are normal. She lived through it in coastal California during W.W.II when blackouts, shortages, war efforts, and constant feelings of uneasiness were the norm. But, she said they do go away, once the world is safe again. I feel confident it will be that way again one day. Just like it was for her. I am praying for that and getting some form of comfort. No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre (actually Caesar's Palace) Hollywood, California (actually Las Vegas, NV) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:59:20 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC allow me to add my belated best wishes to the silent sexy les ross on his birthday. a libra! it truly figures that you'd be one of my favorite signs... patrick np - corey dargel - inadequate love songs >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of >FMYFL@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 6:56 AM >To: joni@smoe.org; LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk; holdall_birdcall@hotmail.com >Cc: FMYFL@aol.com >Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC > > >Wallyk wrote: > ><> > >Oh Happy Happy Birthday to the most adorable man on the JMDL! >Hope you had a wonderful day Les! > >Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:17:49 -0700 From: daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us Subject: Zep/Yep (njc) Steve, At Last, we have found a show we both were at!!!!! I was wearing a purple dress, knee-length with a ruffled neck line from a famous show in Hollywood... and I took the city bus from UCLA to the show. Darice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:20:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: depression njc << I'm sure I'm not the only one who is feeling this but thought I would share and see if anyone has any words of wisdom that might help those of us that are experiencing this out of it. >> Phyliss, Remember that grief is a process, not a destination. When my Mom died (which was much more traumatic for me than 9/11), the hospice lady said "you won't always hurt as bad as you hurt now". Those were words I needed to hear. Knowing that allowed me to grieve, and know that the joy would return, and it did. Take some time and reflect on how wonderful life is...the memories and love you've experienced, and all the good things yet to come that you don't even know about! For me, one of my all-time great memories was walking around New Orleans, hanging with Bern, you and John van Tiel, eating beignets and drinking coffee, and talking. It seemed so timeless, it's a setting I return to often in my mind. Don't think that there's anything "wrong" with the way you feel...how can it be wrong when it's so real? Exercise to feed your body endorphins. Eat chocolate. Go do fun things with your Bob. Find a volunteer activity, maybe doing crafts in a senior action center or something. You would become the source of so much joy, your depression will soon diminish. Just some random thoughts...remember always that you've got a Joni network around the world that thinks you're a very special person! Bob NP: Sara K, "Don't I Know You (From Somewhere)" Thanks, William...boy is this great stuff or what? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:47:58 -0600 From: "Brett Code" Subject: Brilliant article on JM - NUVO Magazine, Autumn 2001 Perhaps you've seen a reference to this already. Morgan Ames writes a terrific, highly, highly complimentary and sophisticated article on Joni, her career, Both Sides Now and the Mendel show in NUVO magazine, Autumn 2001. The website is www.nuvomagazine.com , but the article is not available on the website - only ordering information. The article is 6 pages and has some nice photographs - old and new. Brett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:58:31 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni on Vanity Fair Cover While watching ET tonight there was a segment on the latest Vanity Fair magazine due out next week (?). Their yearly music issue. Looks like Joni is on the cover behind David Bowie. It was so fast I couldn't catch any other details. Look for the latest Vanity Fair Music issue with a special attachment regarding the NY Fire Department. I'm on digest mode so don't know if anyone else posted this or not. Vanity Fair's website: http://www.subscriberdirect.com/vf/0110/ Laura *********************** GOOD DEAL: $10 off $20 (code KSCU) http://www.MusiciansFriend.com (check out the egg shakers! Great for kids!! Tambourines from $4.99) Check out the $1,000 Weekly Gear Giveaway on the home page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 23:25:50 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #470 - Joni/Carly Joni may in fact "love" Carly (or her work), but she does not consider Carly a peer. In an interview several years ago (I believe in Rolling Stone, but I'm not sure), Joni was quoted: "My peers? Who are my peers? Carly Simon and these other women are not my peers." I believe she also was quoted as saying that Dylan and Cohen would be included among her peers. It was, of course, a short list. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:29:14 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #470 - Joni/Carly a big fan or would not be here but there are most certainly women whom i would consider her peers. and i don't even care for dylan. guess its all subjective, even her opinion of herself, in relation to others. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #470 - Joni/Carly > Joni may in fact "love" Carly (or her work), but she does not consider Carly > a peer. In an interview several years ago (I believe in Rolling Stone, but > I'm not sure), Joni was quoted: "My peers? Who are my peers? Carly Simon > and these other women are not my peers." I believe she also was quoted as > saying that Dylan and Cohen would be included among her peers. It was, of > course, a short list. > > Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:13:18 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Zep/Yep (njc) Boy, oh boy, if there is anyone here who can consistently make me drool and turn green all over it's you two!! ;-) Kakki P.S. Thank you so much for the calls and package Darice!! > Steve, > At Last, we have found a show we both were at!!!!! > I was wearing a purple dress, knee-length with a ruffled neck line from a famous show in Hollywood... and I took the city bus from UCLA to the show. > Darice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 23:32:10 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Vanity Fair w/Joni Due Out Next Tuesday See the cover of the magazine here. http://www.etonline.com/newslink/index.htm Must be a fold out cover and Joni's on the inside fold. VANITY FAIR'S TRIBUTE " October 9, 2001 | Vanity Fair dedicated a 54-page special edition to the victims and heroes of the September 11 tragedy. The tribute, called "One Week," features a pictorial of the events. Inside the regular edition, famed photographer ANNIE LEIBOVITZ shot music greats from BECK to JONI MITCHELL. Both issues hit newsstands next Tuesday. Classic shots include STEVIE WONDER surrounded by DAVID BOWIE, GWEN STEFANI, JEWEL and other stars. " Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:20:43 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Vanity Fair w/Joni Due Out Next Tuesday Laura! Thanks so much for the heads up! As far as Joni's paintings which were supposed to be in the L.A. Times last week, I have been scrutinizing every page every day and there is nothing yet ;-( I hope the Times are still going with it and will try to get more info from them. Kakki > See the cover of the magazine here. > http://www.etonline.com/newslink/index.htm > Must be a fold out cover and Joni's on the > inside fold. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:43:42 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Watch Letterman tonight? NJC Who was the musical guest on letterman and what is the name of her cd? I am working on a paper for my class on Thursday night and in the background I heard an artist that I was very impressed with. I thought I heard Dave say her name was Leona Ness and her album was called "I Tried to Rock You but You Only Rolled" which was also the song that she sang. But I can't find her or that title on amazon. Can anyone help? (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:30:33 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: war-njc Some of the feelings I had living from childhood to college age during Vietnam have been dredged up but this is different. Vietnam was a long, sustained nightmare brought, like you said, into our homes every night on TV. There was the fear back then that some country might decide to lob a few nukes at us at any given moment, but as time went on, we seemed to numb ourselves to it. In my case, there were many friends and boyfriends who I feared would be called up to the draft at any given moment. It was an uneasy number of years that was counter-balanced to some extent by a lot of hope and progress on other fronts. Oh and the music ;-) This is different because we have been hit so hard and suddenly without warning on our own land. We probably still have the fear of nukes in the back of our minds but the greater fear for me is that the enemy is crawling among us everywhere in our country and we don't know what they will do next and we know they will not play by any "standard" rules of war. The only thing that gives me any rest these days is the music once again. Kakki Mack wrote: > this war business is heating up into a furor that is making >me quite uncomfortable, almost taking me back to when >i was a young boy, when I can remember coming home >from school every day and each night they would have >the vietnam report and the casualty list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:02:38 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: depression njc Phyliss, >Or maybe I just want to be reassured that I'm not the >only one. You're not! Everyone I know is going through this and it's perfectly normal. We've have a country of 300 million pretty much going through shock and trauma all at the same time. Not to mention much of the rest of the world. I keep experiencing a wild range of emotions and am just accepting it for now because it is going to take many of us time to process this. I'm finally feeling really deep rage but it is inspiring me to write music again for the first time in about 20 years, so I see something positive coming from it. Get out and talk with your friends - many of my friends are getting together and just letting it all out and it really seems to help a lot. We are wounded and we need time to heal. And please feel free to come down to L.A. anytime and we'll throw back some good old fashioined martinis if we have to ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:32:54 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: depression njc In a message dated 10/10/01 12:17:48 AM, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << We are wounded and we need time to heal. >> It's hard to believe that the attack happened only a month ago tomorrow. With all the news reports, all the discussion in the media and in our lives, plus all the emotions we've gone through, to me it feels as if this happened a long time ago. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:56:09 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Watch Letterman tonight? Leona Naess NJC She is Leona Naess and you've got the album title right. Here's her site: http://www.leonanaessonline.com/ B On 10 Oct 2001, at 0:43, Vince Lavieri wrote: > Who was the musical guest on letterman and what is the name of her cd? > > I am working on a paper for my class on Thursday night and in the > background I heard an artist that I was very impressed with. > > I thought I heard Dave say her name was Leona Ness and her album was > called "I Tried to Rock You but You Only Rolled" which was also the song > that she sang. But I can't find her or that title on amazon. Can > anyone help? > > (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #471 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?