From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #470 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 9 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 470 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) ["Dolphie Bush" ] News story NJC [slarty ] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [slarty ] Re: HDCD Hejira ["Bill Pearson" ] a day with with joni ["Kate Bennett" ] Amelia et al. (sjc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #469 [JSerkes@aol.com] Re: Entertaining Joni [colin ] Re: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) [jop@surfeu.fi] Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni njc [colin ] Re: Entertaining Joni ["Lori R. Fye" ] Re: Entertaining Joni/James Taylor [Gary Zack ] The Case of the 2 Daves [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] NJC Re: Amelia et al. (sjc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] pics ["Stephen Epstein" ] les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC ["hell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:11:26 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: Was that a mandolin? (njc) I, too, love the mandolin. The mandolin playing on "the sweetest gift" from L. Ronstadt's "Prisoner in Disguise" is fantastic. It's a duet with Emmylou Harris although I am sure you all know that. Some guy named David Grisman did the mandolin playing. Awesome. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Was that a mandolin? (njc) > Hi, all, > > I went to the Castro Street Fair here in Sf yesterday, hoping to run into > several people (including fellow jmdler Richard -- I got there later than I'd > hoped, and I never found him). Anyway, it was great fun, especially (for me) > the Swing/Big Band dj stage, where all sorts of couples were dancing to some > of the best pop music of the century. It was especially fun to see too genX > boys dressed in baggy shorts/watch cap /90's clothing very competently > dancing to swing; the smaller guy couldn't have weighed more than 80 lbs, > which made it easier for the other guy to swing him into the air (he always > landed perfectly, like a jonicat, on his feet). There was also a woman > dressed in perfect late40's/early50's men's clothes and a perfectly coiffed > pompadour dancing at one point with a boy dressed exactly the same way. > > Finally getting to my question: There was a man sitting on a chair playing > what I *think* was some kind of mandolin -- it was a string instrument in a > frame which he had on his lap, and which he played with these metal > "fingernail extender" picks, about 2 inches long. I don't think I've ever > seen anything like it; the music was lovely (although hard to hear in all > the surrounding din). Was this some kind of mandolin, or something else? > Sorry to be such a musical ignoramus. > > Parting thought: There was a surreality to the whole day; I'd been up since > 4 a.m. since my main squeeze Robert's face had exploded with an abscess > (combination of bad dental work and no immune system), and we had to spend > most of the morning at KaiserPerm. Then getting home and hearing about the > war, and (Robert insisted I get out of the house -- he's okay, by the way, or > will be) going to the fair. > > Life goes on. > > Peace to all, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC - --- slarty wrote: > My program doesn't do the auto check as you mention. > I'm not sure if that's because of how you have the > program > setup or because you have the program that you pay > for. > Whatever it does, it isn't because of anything I ask it to do! I said earlier that the thing is foolproof (more or less) I am the fool that's the proof. It does a check of all tracks on your playlist first, then it records them, then it does a summary at the end. Once it crapped out before the summary had been done and the resulting CD was a bit rough - so I'm assuming this final summary it does somehow cleans this up; because I then created another CD with the exact same playlist, it went through fine, and it sounded tons better than the first one. I did do a search and I found a bunch of stuff that appears to be Adaptec. I don't know about you but when I got my PC, it didn't come with a manual - the manual is actually ON the PC - the problem is, you can't set it up (well, I can't - I had never done this before!) without checking the manual. Well, that's why God created Helplines, I suppose - I called them up and had this guy walk me through the whole thing, while I crawled around on the floor plugging this into that. These people are wonderful - if you have no idea what they're talking about, they keep using different words until it finally clicks and you connect the right two pieces together without blowing everything to Kingdom Come. I can just imagine the kinds of conversations they have once they get off the line with people like me, something along the lines of, "Yeesh! You shoulda heard the LOSAH I was just talking to!" but, on the other hand, it's those kinds of encounters that probably keep their day interesting. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:24:17 -0400 From: slarty Subject: News story NJC I found a news story in my local paper that rang a Joni alarm in me when I saw it. StoryLine: "Hijacking of Indian plane was false alarm" Figure the writer's heard Amelia? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:54:20 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC My program didn't come with my comp. I installed it when I added a CD-R. I just checked the options on my program and I don't see anywhere a place to do a check. I did get a manual but it is pretty simple. Glad they could help you out with their help line. They also have a web page somewhere as well where you can upgrade your software. Catherine McKay wrote: > Whatever it does, it isn't because of anything I ask > it to do! I said earlier that the thing is foolproof > (more or less) I am the fool that's the proof. It > does a check of all tracks on your playlist first, > then it records them, then it does a summary at the > end. Once it crapped out before the summary had been > done and the resulting CD was a bit rough - so I'm > assuming this final summary it does somehow cleans > this up; because I then created another CD with the > exact same playlist, it went through fine, and it > sounded tons better than the first one. > > I did do a search and I found a bunch of stuff that > appears to be Adaptec. I don't know about you but > when I got my PC, it didn't come with a manual - the > manual is actually ON the PC - the problem is, you > can't set it up (well, I can't - I had never done this > before!) without checking the manual. Well, that's > why God created Helplines, I suppose - I called them > up and had this guy walk me through the whole thing, > while I crawled around on the floor plugging this into > that. These people are wonderful - if you have no > idea what they're talking about, they keep using > different words until it finally clicks and you > connect the right two pieces together without blowing > everything to Kingdom Come. I can just imagine the > kinds of conversations they have once they get off the > line with people like me, something along the lines > of, "Yeesh! You shoulda heard the LOSAH I was just > talking to!" but, on the other hand, it's those kinds > of encounters that probably keep their day > interesting. > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:21:11 +0100 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: Re: HDCD Hejira > <> > > **Lots** of live versions, Brian...she did the song on her '83, '79, and '98 tours. Also have covers done by: > > Marianne Faithfull (live) > Akiko Pavolka (NY jazz singer) > Stevie Salas > Barbara Gaskin w/Dave Stewart (ex-Eurythmic) Gonna have to pull you up there Bob, that's a different Dave Stewart. This one is ex Egg, ex Hatfield & The North, ex Bruford but definitely not an ex Eurythmic. Trust me I'm a Sarge :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:31:11 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: a day with with joni i would call my friend who would take us to some sacred chumash sites & secret cave paintings (this is going outside but not "out" as colin requested)...then i would invite some of my favorite santa barbara music friends (& of course jmdlers) over & we would play music...& for dinner, i would call a good caterer (depending on the kind of food she prefers) to deliver food for all of us so we could just continue playing & eating... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:50:40 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Amelia et al. (sjc) Hi, all, Just some musings before I jump a jet plane tomorrow night, with more than the usual amount of nervousness. I was walking all over the City (SF) today, enjoying some of my favorite views from some of the hills. And I kept on seeing "white vapor trails" across the not-so bleak terrain. Am I imagining it, or are there more of them in the sky now? Maybe I just didn't notice them before because the City (and I) are always enshrouded in fog. Leave it to Bob Muller to know about the Stewart and Gaskin version of Amelia on their album Spin. I had one or two of their albums in the '80's (I particularly remember their version of "It's my Party" from around '82 or '83). Are they still recording? Easily available? "Funny day, looking for laughter and finding it there..." I sat down in one of my favorite Thai restaurants in the Castro -- it's the one over Daddy's, for those jmdlers in the city who know the Castro -- it overlooks the famous Castro Theatre, and I was gazing absentmidedly at the marquee when I noticed that on Nov 9th, John Waters and Tammy Faye (Baker, I presume) will be making a live appearance. Together? Can't you imagine her being cast in one of his movies? What delightful camp! This is something I must see. "Formula music./Girlie guile!/Genuine junkfood/For juveniles!" I actually watched CMC for half an hour (a syndicated show that gets broadcast on, I guess, various independent stations across California) to see what the kids were up to. Then I went over to MTV. I do this once in a while, and very occasionally, it pays off. (I think it's how I was introduced to Ben Folds Five, Beth Orton, Belle and Sebastion and possibly even Alanis Morrissette...) I was impressed with the complexity of the choreography at first, until it began to seem to me that it was more or less the same in each video. Lots of synthesized, layered background, both vocal and instrumental. The song I liked the best (on CMC) was by a young black male singer whom the idiot dj never identified (he was more interested in cracking jokes I couldn't understand). The song had "content" both lyrically and musically, but I wonder whether I'll ever see it again and have the presence of mind to write down some of the lyrics so one of you might know who it was. The only other video that struck as being at least well-produced was by Brintey Spears (something about being a slave -- very sexual -- how does her Christian momma allow this kind of thing???) But I liked the end of the video, when the orgy broke up because one of the young men noticed that it was raining, called out to the others and the orgy broke up!! ("We used to clear the floor just to watch the rain cone down...") Looking forward to seeing the leaves in color, hugging my mom and sisters, meeting jmdlers Bob Murphy and (ihopeihope) Ashara, and getting back in one piece. Love and peace to my new-found community, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 20:34:43 EDT From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #469 I am going to Toronto and would love to hook up with those of you who are going to see Joni. Let me know if people are hooking up! nyrogrl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 02:11:43 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni Dolphie Bush wrote: > I assume this is Carly Simon, colin? Does Joni not care for her? what's > the deal? According to kakki, Joni likes Carly. So i'll leave you to guess what the deal is! > > > Mack > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Catherine McKay" > To: "colin" ; "joni" > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni > > > --- colin wrote: > > > Joni si coming to vist. DShe will arrive at 10 am > > > and leave at 10pm > > > prompt. > > > You must keep her amused for that time. > > > > > > > Colin, it sounds like a fun day. If Joni can't make > > it, can I come instead? The only thing I'd leave out > > is the Carly stuff - I just don't think Joni would > > like that very much! > > > > What the heck is bumburner? It sounds, um, > > interesting. What's your recipe? > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 04:08:12 +0300 From: jop@surfeu.fi Subject: Re: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) Michael E Hawthorne wrote: > I've managed to locate two of Sarah Jane Morris' cds, > Blue Valentine and Fallen Angel. Every lead I've > followed in locating other recordings has led to > a dead end. i have "heaven" from 1992, produced by martyn ware of heaven 17. the cd is on Virgin Dischi S.r.l., an italian branch (although made in germany). i can make you a copy on MD if that helps. - --jussi http://www.surfeu.fi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 02:25:43 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni njc I got the message too because it went to the joni list. I would assume it got cc'd to others because the person rplied to all and changed the content. I read and re read the message and couldn't see anything nasty in it. FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Mags wrote: > > << Whoever the h*** you are..... PLEASE do not send me anything to my > mailbox. I mean > it. >> > > Geekazoid, I don't mind that you sent something to me privately ( I love > Diana Krall). I just was curious why you sent it to Mags and I personally, > and who are you??? > > I'm sorry for the bandwidth too, but I tried to email Geek privately but it > keeps bouncing back. > > Jimmy - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni Mack asked: > I assume this is Carly Simon, colin? > Does Joni not care for her? what's > the deal? In two words (but you know, there may be more): James Taylor Lori in MD ~ NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 21:58:15 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni/James Taylor According to our Sunday newspaper here in Detroit, James is scheduled to appear on Jay Leno Tuesday night, for those interested. Gary Lori R. Fye wrote: > > Mack asked: > > > I assume this is Carly Simon, colin? > > Does Joni not care for her? what's > > the deal? > > In two words (but you know, there may be more): James Taylor > > Lori > in MD > ~ > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:03:39 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: The Case of the 2 Daves << Trust me I'm a Sarge :) >> Hey, thanks for that info, Sarge! I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong...I guess I just assumed that it was THE Dave Stewart, especially since Annie Lennox did that version of LOTC. That WAS the same Annie Lennox, wasn't it? ;~) By the way, I wouldn't go broadcasting the part about you being a "Sarge" these days! NP: Bob Dylan, live ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:06:33 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara << i think i will do night ride home & amelia...we will do circle game all together as a group at the end of the night... >> That'll be great, Kate...besides Joni's, the only versions I've heard of NRH have been guys...oops, take that back, Terry M. does a great version on the "Tape of You" project. Almost forgot ya' there, T! Bob NP: Maggie's Farm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:20:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Amelia et al. (sjc) << Am I imagining it, or are there more of them in the sky now? >> I think we just notice them a little more, Walt. << Are they still recording? Easily available?>> I don't think 'Spin' is still in print, Walt. I've already shown enough ignorance about them so I'll leave it at that! LOL! <> I'd love to see Waters return to form...he hasn't done anything wothwhile for a long time. Tammy Faye might be just the thing he needs! She's actually a pretty cool lady! <> Well, Britney *IS* 21, so her Mom doesn't have much of a say...anyway, I'm sure she doesn't mind the checks! ;~) Bob NP: Dylan, "Simple Twist of Fate" live ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:49:04 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: pics Did I miss the heads up on this one??????? Pictures of 2001 Jonifest are up at jmdl.com!!!! Thanks so much to all involved- Ashara, Bob Smurf- love the Bob choking you photo!- Les....... and all others who have worked so dilligently to get them up! It was lovely to relive such a wonderful weekend. So many sweet memories! love to all Stephen in Vancouver NP: coincidentally! Gregg Cagno! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 03:20:51 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC late as usual! happy birthday [october 8... oops] les ross!!!!!!! love you, wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:54:44 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: les ross !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - NJC Wallyk wrote: > late as usual! happy birthday [october 8... oops] les ross!!!!!!! Happy birthday, Les! Hope you had/have a great day. love Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #470 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?