From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #469 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 8 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 469 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: October 8 [les@jmdl.com] Burning CDs - NJC ["Ron Greer" ] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [colin ] RE: Burning CDs - NJC ["Ron Greer" ] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [colin ] The wonderful Mr. Cagno NJC ["Paul Castle" ] Diana Krall Loves Joni [Rick and Susan ] Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Brushes with greatness, njc [] Love in Paris-Satisfaction Guaranteed. ["Laurent Olszer" ] Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) [Michael E Hawthorne ] Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) [Michael E Hawthorne ] Re: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] (NJC) Campbell's Soup's "Tackling Hunger" program ["Lori R. Fye" ] We'll be right back after this important message NJC [Tyler Hewitt ] Re: (NJC) Campbell's Soup's "Tackling Hunger" program [Catherine McKay ] Brushes with celebrity (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Was that a mandolin? (njc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [colin ] Re: Entertaining Joni [colin ] Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni [FromThePlanet Geeeek ] The Zep (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] from the Dalai Lama njc ["Kate Bennett" ] new jobs & lol & more celeb brushes njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: HDCD Hejira [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Entertaining Joni ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: Burning CDs - NJC [slarty ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 03:13:16 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: October 8 On October 8 these articles were published: 1998: "Balm From a Musical Touchstone" - Atlanta Journal and Constitution (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981008ajc.cfm 1998: "Taming the Tiger" - Hartford Courant (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981008hc.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 634 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:00:48 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: Burning CDs - NJC Hi >>Merk54@aol.com wrote: >>I bought a new computer last night, and now have the ability to burn my own >> CD's (Yes!), but really don't know where to begin. I know this subject has & colin replied: >>colin >>I have been using Adaptec software and am happy with that. Mind you i have not >>used any othet burning software. I find it easy to use. i would imagine that your recorder would have come with some kind of software?? having tried a number of other programs, i would definitely recomend adaptec as being by far the best software for general copying use, with a nice, easy to use, intuitive interface, nice features & good results. there are however some other useful programs. exact audio copy, a free program, downloadable off the net, has some very useful features, such as noise filters, volume normalisation (esp useful on compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, and error correction. it is unfortunately a fairly difficult program to get the hang of as the interface, and menus are not particularly well designed. nero is a program which can be purchased, and has most of the features of exact audio, plus some added features, such as the ability to split tracks. it is also more difficult to use than adaptec. i would also recomend - use decent, branded blanks. they may cost a little more, but will give you better quality copies, and less failures. - the more memory in your computer the better - when preparing a compilation, i generally find its best to copy the audio tracks to hard drive first, then to the cd. this just makes it easier to keep track of total cd time, and to make sure that you dont wind up with a multi session disc. a session consists of audio (or data) track/s, and a file table, telling the computer/hi fi where to find the tracks. while computers can read multi session discs, hi-fi equipment generally can only read the first session on a disc - this can be *very* frustrating :-) enjoy it!!!! my cd recorder was one of my best investments!!! ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:26:58 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > volume normalisation (esp useful on compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, and error correction. Hi Ron-Adaptec does this too. You have to record onto the pc first, and into that part of the Apadtec program called Spin Doctor. It allows you to do other things. Of course you probably now this! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:35:40 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: RE: Burning CDs - NJC hi colin thanks for the tip - no i didnt know that. i just had a look & couldnt find it - which version do you have? i have version 4 which i think is quite old, and is also a version which was shipped with a cd-recorder so possibly doesnt have all the functions? also something i forgot to comment on (probably because im too lazy to do covers!!) is that adaptec has a nice jewel case inlay, and cd label creator facility. ron - -----Original Message----- From: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] Sent: 08 October 2001 10:27 To: Ron Greer Cc: joni@smoe.org; Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > volume normalisation (esp useful on compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, and error correction. Hi Ron-Adaptec does this too. You have to record onto the pc first, and into that part of the Apadtec program called Spin Doctor. It allows you to do other things. Of course you probably now this! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:50:02 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC Ron Greer wrote: > hi colin > > thanks for the tip - no i didnt know that. > > i just had a look & couldnt find it - which version do you have? i have version 4 which i think is quite old, and is also a version which was shipped with a cd-recorder so possibly doesnt have all the functions? version 4 is the current version, I think. Anyway, it comes with the full works. i.e you have to buy it! > > > also something i forgot to comment on (probably because im too lazy to do covers!!) is that adaptec has a nice jewel case inlay, and cd label creator facility. > > ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] > Sent: 08 October 2001 10:27 > To: Ron Greer > Cc: joni@smoe.org; Merk54@aol.com > Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > > > volume normalisation (esp useful on compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, and error correction. > > Hi Ron-Adaptec does this too. You have to record onto the pc first, and into that part of the Apadtec program called Spin Doctor. It allows you to do other things. > Of course you probably now this! > bw > colin - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:42:10 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: The wonderful Mr. Cagno NJC Kate kate@katebennett.com wrote: > - I love his song The View from Here...I think that was > the first song I heard Gregg play when we were sitting > around Ashara's livingroom Friday night. It was the first song I heard him play on the Folktrain, too - on my first night. Not something you see very often on a train (not over here, anyway) - around sixty people, many with instruments, sitting in the coffee bar section having a song circle at 10 O'clock at night - I didn't know anyone in the carriage at the time - but was stunned when someone I later discovered to be Christian Bauman, started singing the first verse of 'The View from Here' - Gregg and Christian sang it as a duet - one of those moments when the unreality of where you are (on a night train travelling across the Canadian prairies) is matched so perfectly by the music. Thanks for that, Gregg. PaulC PS And the dedication - glad to hear you sang it "facing England". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:44:59 -0700 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Diana Krall Loves Joni From Sunday's Vancouver Province, a link to what Diana Krall says about her love of Joni. http://www.canada.com/vancouver/theprovince/story.asp?id={5B7AE518-70BF-4BA7 - -8B7B-7EC87DE8C1D4} ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 06:31:15 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara << Santa Barbara Songwriters' Tribute to Joni Mitchell Wednesday, November 7 @7:30 >> Way cool, Kate...I've been suggesting to the guy who owns The Handlebar here in town to do the same thing...they've done "Dylan for Dollars" and "Beatles for Bucks" fundraisers, so I think this would be a natural. Any chance of getting that show recorded for sharing on the list? Which Joni songs are YOU going to do, or do you want to keep it a surprise? ;~) Bob NP: Genesis, "Please Don't Ask" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:28:28 +0100 From: Subject: Re: Brushes with greatness, njc ~My collection is small: Leonard Cohen - South Circular Road, Dublin. Joni Mitchell - in the alley beside the Shephard's Bush Empire Joni Mitchell - outside Victoria Station. Ian Woosnam - played golf with this former Masters champ. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:07:23 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Love in Paris-Satisfaction Guaranteed. Went to see Tuck and Patti last saturday. At first I was worried because their February 2001 concert had been cancelled due to Tuck's broken ankle. Well they showed up and immediately started playing "Love Warriors", a very ` propos song. Following were my favorite songs from the last 2 CDs, including Songs for the Souls (about the departed) and You ain't Seen Nothing Yet (hot tip about how to keep your love affair burning), both from "Taking the Long Way Home". Tuck and especially Patti were in great shape because they had just spent 1 week in Paris for their 20th anniversary, and they'll be back late spring 2002 after doing quite a bit of traveling in between. She confessed Paris does it to them every time because this is where their love started. Let me tell you, this lady has an incredible stage presence and a capacity to convey emotions up to par with Joni's! The songs I mentioned are masterpieces and I feel she's really trying to help fellow human beings by passing on her life experiences. One funny thing: the ventilation was off so she would sing verses to the club people asking them to turn it on, etc, all the while continuing the song. Anyway, I'm so convinced that a JONI fan couldn't dislike it, that I'll gladly refund the price of admission to anyone not satisfied by a show. Now, for those of you who are contemplating a trip to Paris next spring (or any other time), I'll offer an extra bonus: JONI's own suede 3 piece outfit with purse (all 3 signed by Joni), purchased in L.A.'s a Star is Worn used star clothing shop in 88. It's yours to see and feel and even put on if you can fit in it. (Luckily, my wife does fit. You won't believe how many ladies chickened out when offered this golden opportunity!) Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:32:18 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC I also have the adaptec program that's shipped with most cd recorders. I'd like to suggest that when you make audio cds from mp3's that you've downloaded always preview the file. When you slide the file from your hard drive into the window underneath right click on the song in the bottom window and hit preview. I've downloaded mp3's that sound perfectly fine and run fine but when I copied them they just left an empty space on the cd. So when I played the cd an 8 minute song left an 8 minute void. To fix the mp3 try downloading another copy or convert the mp3 to a wav file and use the wav file instead of the mp3. Ron Greer wrote: > hi colin > > thanks for the tip - no i didnt know that. > > i just had a look & couldnt find it - which version do you have? i have version 4 which i think is quite old, and is also a version which was shipped with a cd-recorder so possibly doesnt have all the functions? > > also something i forgot to comment on (probably because im too lazy to do covers!!) is that adaptec has a nice jewel case inlay, and cd label creator facility. > > ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] > Sent: 08 October 2001 10:27 > To: Ron Greer > Cc: joni@smoe.org; Merk54@aol.com > Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > > > volume normalisation (esp useful on compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, and error correction. > > Hi Ron-Adaptec does this too. You have to record onto the pc first, and into that part of the Apadtec program called Spin Doctor. It allows you to do other things. > Of course you probably now this! > bw > colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:36:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael E Hawthorne Subject: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) Hello all: I've managed to locate two of Sarah Jane Morris' cds, Blue Valentine and Fallen Angel. Every lead I've followed in locating other recordings has led to a dead end. Are there any members who'd be willing to make copies of any Sarah Jane Morris recordings they may have? I can offer to pay postage and send cd and/or cassette blanks for trade. Best regards, Michael Hawthorne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:36:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael E Hawthorne Subject: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) Hello all: I've managed to locate two of Sarah Jane Morris' cds, Blue Valentine and Fallen Angel. Every lead I've followed in locating other recordings has led to a dead end. Are there any members who'd be willing to make copies of any Sarah Jane Morris recordings they may have? I can offer to pay postage and send cd and/or cassette blanks for trade. Best regards, Michael Hawthorne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:54:01 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sarah Jane Morris music (NJC) Never heard of Sarah Jane Morris, but if you go to www.gemm.com and do a search on her name, you'll see that there's a lot available, including the records you're looking for. If you've never used Gemm, have no fear - it's great! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:09:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: (NJC) Campbell's Soup's "Tackling Hunger" program People in New York and DC are going to be having to hit foodbanks hard. There will be a need in NY for the soup. Below is an easy way to help.... Campbell's is donating a can of soup to area foodbanks just by clicking on a football helmet at their website. Now, I know there are some pretty diehard football fans out there. So let's see which team gets the most support and help some hungry people, too! It's quick, easy, and can be done once a day. Here is a link to directly connect you to their website. Just click on this web address - http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp then click on your favorite team's helmet and Campbell has donated a can of soup. That is it! Please pass this to a friend or 2,3,4... ~ NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:40:24 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: RE: Burning CDs - NJC hi >>slarty wrote >>I've downloaded mp3's that sound perfectly fine >>and run fine but when I copied them they just left an empty space on the cd. >>So when I played the cd an 8 minute song left an 8 minute void. To fix the mp3 >>try downloading another copy or convert the mp3 to a wav file and use the wav >>file instead of the mp3. learning all sorts of good tips here :-) i had that happen to me once, & never came up with a solution - thanks.. ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: We'll be right back after this important message NJC No Joni content, but a commercial for my work: I am currently showing at two galleries in the greater Chicago area: I am one of 3 artists in the show 'New Talent' at Crown Center Gallery at Loyola University Chicago. that show runs Oct. 4-26. The gallery is located in the Crown Center for the Arts on Loyola's campus, Loyola Ave. at the lake. I am also one of several artists in 'New Faces', at DeCaprio Gallery at Moraine Valley Community College in Palos Hills, IL. The show runs Oct. 2-31. Opening reception this Thursday, Oct 11. This is a faculty show (I teach at MVCC). There are more people involved and its a smallish space, so I only have two pieces in this show, but they're new works different from my usual work. The gallery is in the Fine and Performing Arts Center atrium. The campus is at 88th ave and 111th st. in Palos Hills. And, as long as I have your attention, a couple of upcoming shows: Sheetz Gallery at Penn State Altoona is doing a solo show of my work. Show dates are November 7 to Dec. 14. Christopher Art Gallery at Prairie State College in Chicago Heights,IL, is doing a show of work by faculty at several area community colleges. that show runs Dec. 7-Jan. 17. Thanks for reading, Tyler We now return to our regular programming. , NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC I always download onto the PC, then create a play list to record onto a CD. Adaptec always does a check first of the tracks, but every now and then, even though it may flash a message at you that it doesn't support "this kind" of file, unless you happen to notice that and stop what you're doing, it will go ahead and start recording the CD. When it arrives at the file it doesn't support, it will shut down and then you have to start all over with a new CD - making sure to take out the track it didn't support. I have no idea why it wouldn't support whatever these files are - when you check the properties, there doesn't seem to be anything to suggest it's any different than any of the other stuff you've downloaded. This Adaptec thing just seems to open when you're in Windows Media and you ask it to record [a playlist] to a CD. But I can't figure out where Adaptec really lives in my PC, so I can figure out what else it can do and I find this really frustrating. I've gone through Windows Explorer, but I can't seem to find it! I know it's there, of course. On the other hand, there's a whole bunch of stuff on my PC that I never knew was there until I started nosing around. I'd really like to be able to figure out where this thing resides, so I can do the CD labels and covers without having to create my own from scratch, basically just guessing if the size is OK (having done it a few times, I think I've got it pretty close, but not quite good enough!) How do you convert from mp3 to wav? Do you go into the "my Music" folder and use "save as"? Anyhow, one thing I'd recommend is that you listen to the *whole* track before you decide to copy it to a CD. I've found that some just cut off somewhere, either just before the end, or sometimes halfway through the song and it's really annoying finding this out AFTER you've already burned a CD. Also, if you're planning to copy an entire CD where one track blends into another (i'm thinking Abbey Road, side 2; and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon), what I find happens is you get this gap between each track, so it cuts off, then starts at the next one - you don't get that nice blending of one track into another. I'm sure there's a way you can fix this so if anyone knows, I'd love to hear about it - right now, I've tried copying both of these several times without success and it drives me nuts. (Let's not get into whether or not this stuff is "moral" or "ethical" - - most of what I'm copying (most, not all, OK?) is stuff I already have on vinyl or tape but I want it on CD so I can listen to it in the car or on my Discman. If I could figure out where the stuff is that helps create - --- slarty wrote: > I also have the adaptec program that's shipped with > most cd recorders. > I'd like to suggest that when you make audio cds > from mp3's that you've > downloaded always preview the file. When you slide > the file from your > hard drive into the window underneath right click on > the song in the bottom > window and hit preview. I've downloaded mp3's that > sound perfectly fine > and run fine but when I copied them they just left > an empty space on the cd. > So when I played the cd an 8 minute song left an 8 > minute void. To fix the mp3 > try downloading another copy or convert the mp3 to a > wav file and use the wav > file instead of the mp3. > > > Ron Greer wrote: > > > hi colin > > > > thanks for the tip - no i didnt know that. > > > > i just had a look & couldnt find it - which > version do you have? i have version 4 which i think > is quite old, and is also a version which was > shipped with a cd-recorder so possibly doesnt have > all the functions? > > > > also something i forgot to comment on (probably > because im too lazy to do covers!!) is that adaptec > has a nice jewel case inlay, and cd label creator > facility. > > > > ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] > > Sent: 08 October 2001 10:27 > > To: Ron Greer > > Cc: joni@smoe.org; Merk54@aol.com > > Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > > > > > volume normalisation (esp useful on > compilations where volumes may vary), equalisation, > and error correction. > > > > Hi Ron-Adaptec does this too. You have to record > onto the pc first, and into that part of the Apadtec > program called Spin Doctor. It allows you to do > other things. > > Of course you probably now this! > > bw > > colin Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) Campbell's Soup's "Tackling Hunger" program Heehee. I know nothing about football, much less the teams. In fact, I hate the stupid game. So I just picked the helmets I thought were the prettiest - the Cincinnati Bengals and the {wherever) Cardinals. I must tell my brother-in-law, the Mexican couch potato and die-hard Dallas Cowboys fans about this! - --- "Lori R. Fye" wrote: > > Campbell's is donating a can of soup to area > foodbanks just by clicking on > a football helmet at their website. [...] > > So let's see which team gets the most support and > help some hungry people, > too! It's quick, easy, and can be done once a day. > > Here is a link to directly connect you to their > website. Just click on > this web address - > http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp then click > on > your favorite team's helmet and Campbell has donated > a can of soup. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: We'll be right back after this important message NJC - --- Tyler Hewitt wrote: > No Joni content, but a commercial for my work: > > I am currently showing at two galleries in the > greater > Chicago area: > Waydago, Tyler - I didn't know you were an artist. My ex was an artist, and two guys I dated before that were artists too. What's up with that? Remind me if I ever meet an artist again, to admire his work, but to stay the hell away from him! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:58:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni - --- colin wrote: > Joni si coming to vist. DShe will arrive at 10 am > and leave at 10pm > prompt. > You must keep her amused for that time. > Colin, it sounds like a fun day. If Joni can't make it, can I come instead? The only thing I'd leave out is the Carly stuff - I just don't think Joni would like that very much! What the heck is bumburner? It sounds, um, interesting. What's your recipe? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:01:15 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Brushes with celebrity (NJC) On Saturday the Tinkers played a small wedding in the rather swank Hancock Park neighborhood of LA and the "officiant", or whatever you call it at a non-religous, wedding was actor Rene Auberjonois. He is an old friend of the groom's family, was very friendly and posed for photos with us. It was a fun job! - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:07:29 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Was that a mandolin? (njc) Hi, all, I went to the Castro Street Fair here in Sf yesterday, hoping to run into several people (including fellow jmdler Richard -- I got there later than I'd hoped, and I never found him). Anyway, it was great fun, especially (for me) the Swing/Big Band dj stage, where all sorts of couples were dancing to some of the best pop music of the century. It was especially fun to see too genX boys dressed in baggy shorts/watch cap /90's clothing very competently dancing to swing; the smaller guy couldn't have weighed more than 80 lbs, which made it easier for the other guy to swing him into the air (he always landed perfectly, like a jonicat, on his feet). There was also a woman dressed in perfect late40's/early50's men's clothes and a perfectly coiffed pompadour dancing at one point with a boy dressed exactly the same way. Finally getting to my question: There was a man sitting on a chair playing what I *think* was some kind of mandolin -- it was a string instrument in a frame which he had on his lap, and which he played with these metal "fingernail extender" picks, about 2 inches long. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it; the music was lovely (although hard to hear in all the surrounding din). Was this some kind of mandolin, or something else? Sorry to be such a musical ignoramus. Parting thought: There was a surreality to the whole day; I'd been up since 4 a.m. since my main squeeze Robert's face had exploded with an abscess (combination of bad dental work and no immune system), and we had to spend most of the morning at KaiserPerm. Then getting home and hearing about the war, and (Robert insisted I get out of the house -- he's okay, by the way, or will be) going to the fair. Life goes on. Peace to all, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:32:57 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC > Also, if you're planning to copy an entire CD where > one track blends into another (i'm thinking Abbey > Road, side 2; and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon), > what I find happens is you get this gap between each > track, so it cuts off, then starts at the next one - > you don't get that nice blending of one track into > another. I'm sure there's a way you can fix this so > if anyone knows, I'd love to hear about it - right > now, I've tried copying both of these several times > without success and it drives me nuts. yopu need to choose Disc At Once when recording. No gaps then! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:34:14 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni Catherine McKay wrote: > --- colin wrote: > > Joni si coming to vist. DShe will arrive at 10 am > > and leave at 10pm > > prompt. > > You must keep her amused for that time. > > > > Colin, it sounds like a fun day. If Joni can't make > it, can I come instead? The only thing I'd leave out > is the Carly stuff - I just don't think Joni would > like that very much! > > What the heck is bumburner? It sounds, um, > interesting. What's your recipe? A curry. you really want the recipe? > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:49:19 -0700 (PDT) From: FromThePlanet Geeeek Subject: Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni - --- Rick and Susan wrote: > From Sunday's Vancouver Province, a link to what > Diana Krall says about her > love of Joni. Rick's link didn't work for me, so I went and found the article/interview, and here it is Diana Krall a huge Joni Mitchell fan Dan Aquilante The Province Sunday, October 07, 2001 DIANA KRALL Where: The Orpheum When: 8 p.m. tonight and Monday. Tickets: $47.50, $57.50 and $62.50 at Ticketmaster. In the world of jazz, Diana Krall is the "It" girl. The celebrated 35-year-old Canadian has model good looks, pianistic grace -- and an old-fashioned voice that fairly smolders. Hailed by her fans and critics, Krall followed up her 1999 Grammy-winning disc, When I Look in Your Eyes, with The Look of Love. This new album, in which she's lushly accompanied by the London Symphony Orchestra, gathers 10 ballads and bossa nova tunes. Among the standards on this disc are "Cry Me a River," "S'Wonderful," "The Look of Love" and a beautiful, Spanish-language rendition of "Besame Mucho." For those outside (and inside) the jazz community, Krall's nomination for the top prize -- album of the year --at the '99 Grammys was a shocker because it was the first jazz record to get that nod in 25 years. She lost (to Santana) but did snag the Grammy for best jazz album. And she got everyone's attention that night. Since then, Krall has been touring, stitching together The Look of Love and working in TV and film. She's appeared on three seasons of Sex and the City and her music has been featured in the films Autumn in New York, Random Hearts and The Score. Krall obviously loves what she does but calls it "a lot of hard work." Still single but seeing a writer she preferred not to name, Krall lives in Manhattan and described herself as "pretty happy." Following is her interview with the New York Post. Post: How did the Grammy nomination for album of the year affect yourcareer? Krall: A lot of people who had never heard of me, and may not have heard of me, listened -- not only the public but people in the industry. Post: Was that the most important night of your career? Krall: It was but I think the most important event for me was the tribute concert for Joni Mitchell that I was part of. Post: Why? Krall: At that show, I saw there were no limits to music. I walked away with the attitude, "Hey, you wanna try and box me in? Tell you what, don't try." Post: Has Joni Mitchell, a sister Canadian, always been a hero to you? Krall: She's huge but I only really got into her music over the last four years. I had (her record) Mingus when I was 17 years old but I wasn't a Joni-head. I am now. She is amazing and we've gotten to know each other. Post: Would you invite her to sing on one of your songs? Krall: I wouldn't have the audacity to think that she would want to sing with me. I have to borrow a line from Wayne's World and say, "I'm not worthy." Post: Is there one Joni song you'd pick as your favourite? Krall: I listen to "A Case of You" every night. Post: You've shied away from comparisons of your storytelling vocals with Frank Sinatra's. When asked about a Joni Mitchell duet, you say, "I'm not worthy." Given all your accomplishments, your modesty seems out of place. Krall: I don't let myself think about all that. That's how I protect myself. Post: You're a big star. Krall: I'm a working jazz musician. Post: What is jazz? Krall: That's really hard. If I were talking to kids, I'd tell them to watch the Ken Burns documentary on jazz. I'd tell them to watch and see what they like, see what interests them. Then I'd tell them to go to the library and listen to more of it. Post: You've described how to find out if you like jazz, not what it is. Krall: What I was saying is, that's how you discover jazz is an art form for people. It isn't as intellectual and elitist as some people would make it out to be. Jazz is all emotion. I can't put that into words but I can make you feel it by snapping my fingers. Jazz gives me an unbelievable palette to express myself. Post: You touch people with your ability to paint with emotion. Who has inspired you? Krall: Frank Sinatra. He used to do this bit with the audiences in his concerts. He'd ask them to imagine they were his bartender and he'd start singing "Angel Eyes." His cigarette would be dangling from his lips and he'd become a drunk at the bar talking about his girl. That's very powerful stuff for me. NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:56:12 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (njc)oops...I meant Dulcimer... Sorry, In that last posting, I meant to ask whether the stringed instrument I saw was some kind of *dulcimer*, not *mandolin*. Still brushin' away the cobwebs, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:00:48 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni njc Whoever the h*** you are..... PLEASE do not send me anything to my mailbox. I mean it. I am truly sorry for using the bandwidth for this. Mags, having a day. FromThePlanet Geeeek wrote: > --- Rick and Susan wrote: > > From Sunday's Vancouver Province, a link to what > > Diana Krall says about her > > love of Joni. > > Rick's link didn't work for me, so I went and found > the article/interview, and here it is > > Diana Krall a huge Joni Mitchell fan > > Dan Aquilante > The Province > > Sunday, October 07, 2001 > DIANA KRALL > Where: The Orpheum > When: 8 p.m. tonight and Monday. > Tickets: $47.50, $57.50 and $62.50 at Ticketmaster. > > In the world of jazz, Diana Krall is the "It" girl. > The celebrated 35-year-old > Canadian has model good looks, pianistic grace -- and > an old-fashioned voice > that fairly smolders. Hailed by her fans and critics, > Krall followed up her 1999 > Grammy-winning disc, When I Look in Your Eyes, with > The Look of Love. > > This new album, in which she's lushly accompanied by > the London Symphony > Orchestra, gathers 10 ballads and bossa nova tunes. > Among the standards on > this disc are "Cry Me a River," "S'Wonderful," "The > Look of Love" and a > beautiful, Spanish-language rendition of "Besame > Mucho." > > For those outside (and inside) the jazz community, > Krall's nomination for the > top prize -- album of the year --at the '99 Grammys > was a shocker because it > was the first jazz record to get that nod in 25 years. > She lost (to Santana) but > did snag the Grammy for best jazz album. > > And she got everyone's attention that night. > > Since then, Krall has been touring, stitching together > The Look of Love and > working in TV and film. She's appeared on three > seasons of Sex and the City > and her music has been featured in the films Autumn in > New York, Random > Hearts and The Score. > > Krall obviously loves what she does but calls it "a > lot of hard work." > > Still single but seeing a writer she preferred not to > name, Krall lives in > Manhattan and described herself as "pretty happy." > Following is her interview > with the New York Post. > > Post: How did the Grammy nomination for album of the > year affect yourcareer? > > Krall: A lot of people who had never heard of me, and > may not have heard of > me, listened -- not only the public but people in the > industry. > > Post: Was that the most important night of your > career? > > Krall: It was but I think the most important event for > me was the tribute > concert for Joni Mitchell that I was part of. > > Post: Why? > > Krall: At that show, I saw there were no limits to > music. I walked away with > the attitude, "Hey, you wanna try and box me in? Tell > you what, don't try." > > Post: Has Joni Mitchell, a sister Canadian, always > been a hero to you? > > Krall: She's huge but I only really got into her music > over the last four years. I > had (her record) Mingus when I was 17 years old but I > wasn't a Joni-head. I > am now. She is amazing and we've gotten to know each > other. > > Post: Would you invite her to sing on one of your > songs? > > Krall: I wouldn't have the audacity to think that she > would want to sing with > me. I have to borrow a line from Wayne's World and > say, "I'm not worthy." > > Post: Is there one Joni song you'd pick as your > favourite? > > Krall: I listen to "A Case of You" every night. > > Post: You've shied away from comparisons of your > storytelling vocals with > Frank Sinatra's. When asked about a Joni Mitchell > duet, you say, "I'm not > worthy." Given all your accomplishments, your modesty > seems out of place. > > Krall: I don't let myself think about all that. That's > how I protect myself. > > Post: You're a big star. > > Krall: I'm a working jazz musician. > > Post: What is jazz? > > Krall: That's really hard. If I were talking to kids, > I'd tell them to watch the > Ken Burns documentary on jazz. I'd tell them to watch > and see what they like, > see what interests them. Then I'd tell them to go to > the library and listen to > more of it. > > Post: You've described how to find out if you like > jazz, not what it is. > > Krall: What I was saying is, that's how you discover > jazz is an art form for > people. It isn't as intellectual and elitist as some > people would make it out to > be. Jazz is all emotion. I can't put that into words > but I can make you feel it by > snapping my fingers. Jazz gives me an unbelievable > palette to express myself. > > Post: You touch people with your ability to paint with > emotion. Who has inspired you? > > Krall: Frank Sinatra. He used to do this bit with the > audiences in his concerts. > He'd ask them to imagine they were his bartender and > he'd start singing "Angel Eyes." His cigarette would > be dangling from his lips and he'd become a > drunk at the bar talking about his girl. That's very > powerful stuff for me. > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:09:12 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: The Zep (NJC) Darice wrote: >Led Zep (after their first gig in >Los Angeles (actually Pasadena, already full of themselves) The Rose Palace, 5/3/69?? I was there! - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:54:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: from the Dalai Lama njc last night i played music for a bunch of joyful dancing cartwheeling 2 to 5 year olds...it was so much fun...today i learn the bombings have begun & i am sad & replulsed to hear such arrogant words being spoken by some of our leaders in defense of what we are doing ... vince, thank you for posting this wonderful letter from the dalai lama again...his words are so true, whether it be a personal or global issue...& so much easier said then done...god bless our world... "If we come from fear we may panic and do things -- as individuals and as nations -- that could only cause further damage. If we come from love we will find refuge and strength, even as we provide it to others." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:54:20 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: new jobs & lol & more celeb brushes njc congrats to both alison & nikki on your new jobs...also it sure is nice to hear from the both of you... mg- rotflmao about your "waiting for my sugar to show" interpretation colin- also rotflmao about you showing joni your dog's baby photos as payback for mingus! darice- nice to hear from you! i have met more music & actor celebs than i can recount but not many sports celebs- you reminded me of my 2 sport celebs- bill walton & kareem...bill was a local guy who always came into the juice bar where i was working in the 70's...kareem i met at a party...he was so tall & had to duck sideways to get through the doorway...all the kids were staring at his feet they were huge... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:38:09 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara i will see if we can record it...i think i will do night ride home & amelia...we will do circle game all together as a group at the end of the night... ps, been meaning to mention my latest favorite cd- allison krauss & union station...i saw allison sing on shawn colvin's austin city limits show. then again in the local cd store so i had to get it...allison's voice is so beautiful & soothing in times like these... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:07:14 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara I agree with you about Allison Krause & Union Station...I love this new CD...ans she was great on Shawn Colvin's show...as was Lyle Lovett! Kate Bennett wrote: > > i will see if we can record it...i think i will do night ride home & > amelia...we will do circle game all together as a group at the end of the > night... > > ps, been meaning to mention my latest favorite cd- allison krauss & union > station...i saw allison sing on shawn colvin's austin city limits show. then > again in the local cd store so i had to get it...allison's voice is so > beautiful & soothing in times like these... > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:01:47 -0700 From: "brian symes" Subject: HDCD Hejira I finally replaced my AAD CD of Hejira that I purchased when it was first reissued. For so long I would listen to it and curse myself for selling the orginal Disc and my turn table. The whole CD sounded like a sock was slipped over all the microphones. The HDCD version makes Joni's voice much brighter, the Slide guitar sounds like a crow squaking on my window sill,the last notes on Amelia ring out like wind chimes on my front porch. All this beautiful music for only $12.00 dollars thanks Joni . As "Amelia" is now my daughter Amelia's favorite song. I was wondering if any body has another version of this song, other than the one on S&L. When I cruise around town in my truck with her we always listen to both versions over and over again. Bye Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:07:53 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Diana Krall Loves Joni njc Mags wrote: << Whoever the h*** you are..... PLEASE do not send me anything to my mailbox. I mean it. >> Geekazoid, I don't mind that you sent something to me privately ( I love Diana Krall). I just was curious why you sent it to Mags and I personally, and who are you??? I'm sorry for the bandwidth too, but I tried to email Geek privately but it keeps bouncing back. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:30:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: HDCD Hejira <> **Lots** of live versions, Brian...she did the song on her '83, '79, and '98 tours. Also have covers done by: Marianne Faithfull (live) Akiko Pavolka (NY jazz singer) Stevie Salas Barbara Gaskin w/Dave Stewart (ex-Eurythmic) & even a version by yours truly, with Michael Paz on VG8, from Jonifest 2000! :~) Bob NP: Neil, "When You Dance You Can Really Love" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:02:21 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara > i will see if we can record it...i think i will do night ride home & > amelia... Kate, make sure you do "Night Ride Home" with a straight face now! :~} Victor in Athens, wishing I could be there Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:14:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara oh yes, lyle is always at the top of my greatest songwriters list...i love lyle!!! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Sharon L. Buffington [mailto:sharonbuffington@mediaone.net] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:07 PM To: Kate Bennett Cc: SCJoniGuy@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Santa Barbara I agree with you about Allison Krause & Union Station...I love this new CD...ans she was great on Shawn Colvin's show...as was Lyle Lovett! Kate Bennett wrote: > > i will see if we can record it...i think i will do night ride home & > amelia...we will do circle game all together as a group at the end of the > night... > > ps, been meaning to mention my latest favorite cd- allison krauss & union > station...i saw allison sing on shawn colvin's austin city limits show. then > again in the local cd store so i had to get it...allison's voice is so > beautiful & soothing in times like these... > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:07:54 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni I assume this is Carly Simon, colin? Does Joni not care for her? what's the deal? Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" To: "colin" ; "joni" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Entertaining Joni > --- colin wrote: > > Joni si coming to vist. DShe will arrive at 10 am > > and leave at 10pm > > prompt. > > You must keep her amused for that time. > > > > Colin, it sounds like a fun day. If Joni can't make > it, can I come instead? The only thing I'd leave out > is the Carly stuff - I just don't think Joni would > like that very much! > > What the heck is bumburner? It sounds, um, > interesting. What's your recipe? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:09:39 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: Burning CDs - NJC My program doesn't do the auto check as you mention. I'm not sure if that's because of how you have the program setup or because you have the program that you pay for. My adaptec program is in the directory "Easy CD Creator" The Execution file is Creatr32.exe. Try and use FIND from your START menu and type in creatr32.exe and that should show you where your program is. To convert mp3's to wave files I use a program called "Music Match Jukebox" which can also be used to make audio CDs. There are probably many other programs you could find that convert mp3 to wav files but that's the only one that I know of off hand. Catherine McKay wrote: > I always download onto the PC, then create a play list > to record onto a CD. Adaptec always does a check > first of the tracks, but every now and then, even > though it may flash a message at you that it doesn't > support "this kind" of file, unless you happen to > notice that and stop what you're doing, it will go > ahead and start recording the CD. When it arrives at > the file it doesn't support, it will shut down and > then you have to start all over with a new CD - making > sure to take out the track it didn't support. > > I have no idea why it wouldn't support whatever these > files are - when you check the properties, there > doesn't seem to be anything to suggest it's any > different than any of the other stuff you've > downloaded. > > This Adaptec thing just seems to open when you're in > Windows Media and you ask it to record [a playlist] to > a CD. But I can't figure out where Adaptec really > lives in my PC, so I can figure out what else it can > do and I find this really frustrating. I've gone > through Windows Explorer, but I can't seem to find it! > I know it's there, of course. On the other hand, > there's a whole bunch of stuff on my PC that I never > knew was there until I started nosing around. > > I'd really like to be able to figure out where this > thing resides, so I can do the CD labels and covers > without having to create my own from scratch, > basically just guessing if the size is OK (having done > it a few times, I think I've got it pretty close, but > not quite good enough!) > > How do you convert from mp3 to wav? Do you go into > the "my Music" folder and use "save as"? > > Anyhow, one thing I'd recommend is that you listen to > the *whole* track before you decide to copy it to a > CD. I've found that some just cut off somewhere, > either just before the end, or sometimes halfway > through the song and it's really annoying finding this > out AFTER you've already burned a CD. > > Also, if you're planning to copy an entire CD where > one track blends into another (i'm thinking Abbey > Road, side 2; and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon), > what I find happens is you get this gap between each > track, so it cuts off, then starts at the next one - > you don't get that nice blending of one track into > another. I'm sure there's a way you can fix this so > if anyone knows, I'd love to hear about it - right > now, I've tried copying both of these several times > without success and it drives me nuts. (Let's not get > into whether or not this stuff is "moral" or "ethical" > - most of what I'm copying (most, not all, OK?) is > stuff I already have on vinyl or tape but I want it on > CD so I can listen to it in the car or on my Discman. > > If I could figure out where the stuff is that helps > create > - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #469 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?