From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #459 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 459 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- closest brush with celebrity [Steve Dulson ] Re: closest brush with celebrity [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: John Lennon Tribute(NJC) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] John Lennon Tribute njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 40s vs. 60s [FredNow@aol.com] Re: closest brush with celebrity(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: closest brush with celebrity(njc) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: 40s vs. 60s ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: closest brush with celebrity (njc) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: closest brush with celebrity (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] saskatoon man ["shane mattison" ] Verbal Abuse NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] saskatoon man part two ["shane mattison" ] Re: saskatoon man part two ["Kakki" ] Re: v.i.p.'s (NJC) ["shane mattison" ] Re: v.i.p.'s njc ["shane mattison" ] Another Henry Diltz exhibit CA and AZ ["Kakki" ] tnts (njc) ["shane mattison" ] Re: 40s vs. 60s ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: 40s vs. 60s ["Dolphie Bush" ] Fw: v.i.p.'s (very minimal jc) ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #458 - My Joni Sighting [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: sam elliot (njc) ["Dolphie Bush" ] HRH kakki ["shane mattison" ] More Jonifest Photos ["Kakki" ] RE: [Jonifest2001] More Jonifest Photos ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:49:12 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: closest brush with celebrity Jackson Browne was at the urinal next to me at the Ahmanson Theatre in LA at a Chieftains concert, 5/2/76...but of course the best was getting Joni to autograph my copy of Hejira at the PWWAM taping. :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:19:45 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity I shook hands and said "Hi" to Jon Anderson of Yes, which was thrilling. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:30:16 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: John Lennon Tribute(NJC) I have a VCR Victor...come on up with yours. :) Victor Johnson wrote: > > I taped the entire program and I could possibly duplicate it if I had access > to a second VCR. > > Victor > > Victor Johnson > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, > Come when you lay down your head. > While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, > That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." > Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:26:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity << I shook hands and said "Hi" to Jon Anderson of Yes, which was thrilling. >> You also hung with the President & his Mrs., Relayer, and slept in the White House...surely that counts for something! :~) Bob, who after Joni would have to drop down to Kitty Carlisle level...(Nice Kitty, Kitty...LOL!) NP: Genesis, "Heathaze" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:38:39 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni meeting Marianne wrote: > I think that WE don't have to forget the best of 60's >scene. We don't have to live any differently. Let's take >the preciousness of the values of the 60's and live that >way in our day to day lives. Many of us do to some > extent. It would take a book to write all the ways the best of the spirit of the 60s changed our world and I do think that spirit lives on. Maybe not in the large visible way it did then, but in the ways it changed our culture and society forever. When I talk with people not that much younger than me, they sometimes don't quite understand what went on then. Some of them recall it as only being a time of a grisy war, with unkempt drugged-out hippies and anarchy and don't see the larger beauty of how the ideals and dreams were so needed then and how many did materialize into reality. It was a true renaissance > Spirit of the 60's: questioning authority, Standing up for >what you believe in, taking a stand, taking a stand, >taking a stand, doing things together. Being real, seeing >real. Help me live this way. Help the world live this > way. Having an open-mind, rejecting conformity for the sake of conformity and social pressures, respecting the individual, finding your originality, appreciating differences and diversity, live and let live, love your sister and brother.... Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:22:57 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: John Lennon Tribute njc I was really disappointed in this tribute & most of the performances especially whoever sang Imagine. The performances I did enjoy were Sean, Moby & Rufus (?) singing This Boy, Cyndi Lauper doing Strawberry Fields & Stone Temple Pilots doing Revolution. Really a shame that Julian wasn't there. Its his dad & he would have done the best version of any of John's song cuz he sounds so much like his Dad. I don't know if this is true but I heard he was shunned because he criticized Yoko on VH-1 last year fr selling John's art and other things he says hasn't received money for. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:44:11 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s "Kakki" wrote: >I got Joni back a little when she dismissed the 60s, finally saying "well >YOUUUU made great art during the 60s!" She actually seemed a little >embarrassed (but was smiling to herself) and then came back and allowed >that Jimi Hendrix was the only one she saw in the 60s who could stack up against >Louis Armstrong, Charlie Bird Parker and the rest of the them. I'm glad you spoke up, Kakki. Joni is dead wrong on this one (30s/40s music=art, 60s=not). Including her own music, that of The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, CSNY, James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Laura Nyro, Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, and many, many more was an artistic achievement equal to any music before. Is it a kind of self-loathing snobbism on her part that makes her claim otherwise? - -Fred Simon - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:44:21 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity(njc) I once quoted Dr. Suess to Natalie Merchant before her show at Chastain, gave her a tape I had made, and had a big crush on her at least six months afterwards. And I've hung out and had some beers with David Olney and Eric Taylor. Victor NP: Braves game, 7-1 Braves=magic number is going to be three!!! Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:03:48 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s Yeah Fred, I can't quite figure it out, either, except that maybe she was TOO close to a lot of the making of it as it was happening. She did bring up how so many with promise threw it away because of drugs and said that too many thought they could handle drugs and still be creative but only Charlie Parker could do that. She also did mention Dylan in passing. I can only guess there is something more personal going on here with her. She has mentioned in interviews the past few years how rotten she was treated in those days and how hard it was for her to make it. She was a pioneer in many ways, paving the road for those who followed her. While I would not disagree with anything she said about the 30s/40s, I can't take her too seriously on this one!! Kakki > I'm glad you spoke up, Kakki. Joni is dead wrong on this one (30s/40s > music=art, 60s=not). Including her own music, that of The Beatles, Jimi > Hendrix, CSNY, James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Laura > Nyro, Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, and many, many more > was an artistic achievement equal to any music before. Is it a kind of > self-loathing snobbism on her part that makes her claim otherwise? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 20:00:52 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity(njc) I want to tell you Bob...you almost got me beat...but I think I win...I got to ride on the street car in Disneyland with Walt Disney. He bought me an ice cream and asked if I wanted to meet Mickey. I did not give a rats ass about Mick so I said I would rather meet Minnie...(I should have know I was going to be lesbian but I waited to fall in love with Joni) Anyway...my wish was granted. Nothing has come close since. But if I met Joni...I would have to rethink things. Love and Peace...Sharon NLT Stevie Nicks SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > << I shook hands and said "Hi" to Jon Anderson of Yes, which was thrilling. >> > > You also hung with the President & his Mrs., Relayer, and slept in the White > House...surely that counts for something! :~) > > Bob, who after Joni would have to drop down to Kitty Carlisle level...(Nice > Kitty, Kitty...LOL!) > > NP: Genesis, "Heathaze" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:15:08 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: v.i.p.'s (very minimal jc) my dad who just died, was the reason i met some of the following, then also hanging round gigs, then as security officer, roughly in chronological order: cisco kid tonto roy rodgers and dale evans red kelly (toronto maple leaf) walt disney cary grant (a little story with it) bobby orr CFL allstars wayne harris & terry evanshen and sugarfoot anderson prince phillip ken thomson (Lord of the Fleet) (story) arthur hailey rt hon john g diefenbaker (PM of Canada) (story, turning him down for lunch as a kid!) jane goodall (y'know -chimps!) malcolm muggeridge pierre and maggie trudeau (story) karen kain ernest manning, peter lougheed & ralph klein (premiers of alberta) robert stanfield, joe clark, (PM), claude wagner, george hees, tommy douglas, stanley knowles (oh just more canuck pols) john robarts (premier of ontario) sir graham bright (pps to john major) indira gandhi (story) alexander solzhenitsyn john hammond jr (story) wayne gretsky and mark messier pinetop perkins sam elliot (story) danny gallivan (hockey nite in canada) richard attenborough (story) jean vanier my old man and mum had me way beat though, including invitation to LBJ Ranch through Dean Rusk, drinking lots of gin and tonics with queen liz, JFK, RFK; he ended up getting RFK's car! i've forgotten alot - but does that sound like name dropping or what? shheesh... i'd give 'em all up though just to have had wally's weekend! maybe i should replace larry king when he retires... shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:07:08 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s My take of when Joni said "There's lots about the 60's that is not remembered" refers to the whole drug thing- and then the conversation went the way of Bird, Fred Neil, Tim Hardin... all in her mind, tremendously creative souls, but lost, blowing their creativity, except Bird, to the ravages of drugs. Also, due to Joni's age, the artists that perhaps made the biggest impression on her WERE the Parkers, Birds, Mingus et al... One must remember that as talented and unique as Joni was when she first started out, the Jimi's Bob's and the rest of the group were her contemporaries, and in my opinion, and perhaps hers as well, she was light years ahead of many of them. Best, Stephen in Vancouver NP: new Bjork Yeah Fred, I can't quite figure it out, either, except that maybe she was TOO close to a lot of the making of it as it was happening. She did bring up how so many with promise threw it away because of drugs and said that too many thought they could handle drugs and still be creative but only Charlie Parker could do that. She also did mention Dylan in passing. I can only guess there is something more personal going on here with her. She has mentioned in interviews the past few years how rotten she was treated in those days and how hard it was for her to make it. She was a pioneer in many ways, paving the road for those who followed her. While I would not disagree with anything she said about the 30s/40s, I can't take her too seriously on this one!! Kakki > I'm glad you spoke up, Kakki. Joni is dead wrong on this one (30s/40s > music=art, 60s=not). Including her own music, that of The Beatles, Jimi > Hendrix, CSNY, James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Laura > Nyro, Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, and many, many more > was an artistic achievement equal to any music before. Is it a kind of > self-loathing snobbism on her part that makes her claim otherwise? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:24:15 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity (njc) I am a long-time personal acquaintance of Nancy Faust, world's greatest baseball organist, who plays for the Chicago White Sox. I have the complete official set of 2001 White Sox baseball cards given to me by Lee Biddle, father of Rocky Biddle, White Sox pitcher (isn't that a great baseball name, "Rocky Biddle"?). Jose deLeon's "lady friend" (not his wife) once almost ran me over outside Comiskey park as she was driving way too fast to get Jose to players entrance, for which he was already late. They both looked as if they had had little sleep. DeLeon did not pitch that night. Tommy John asked me for a hymnal in a Methodist Church in 1970. I gave it to him. He shared it with Sally, then his girlfriend, later (and still?) his wife. Earl Averill III is the grandson of Earl Averill who is the baseball Hall of Fame with the (hated) Cleveland team, and son of Earl Averill, Jr., who played for both the minor league north side team in Chicago as well as the Chicago White Sox. Earl and I had a contest to see which one of us could push the other into a ditch. (We were both 5 or 6.) I won. (He hit his head on a pipe and cut it open and everyone got very angry with me, except Earl, because that was just a thing that happened, no biggie to us. But did I get in trouble! Earl was my best bud until his father was traded to the San Francisco Giants in 1961; I never saw him again, damn it.) Glen Hobby pitched for the minor league north side team in Chicago in the 1960s and I baby sat his son, personally pushing baby Hobby in my metal car with the plate that fell off a Chicago trolley car. We also stored the Hobby's groceries in our refrigerator when theirs failed. Jim Parque, White Sox pitcher, wanted to sign my hat at Tiger Stadium (new one) in 2000 but I refused since it was a favorite hat and I would never be able to wear it again if it became a collectable. I did let him sign my scorebook and some other papers. Same day I also got autographs from Paul Kornerko and Mike Sirotka. To those who think all my brushes with celebrity involve baseball: I am close personal friends with my grandson Gage who is not yet a world celebrity but will be since he is already the brightest star that shines in my galaxy. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:24:14 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC Re: Some Smokin' Jazz & a Diva in the Making - The Clayton Brothers Quintet & Jane Monheit at Jazz Alley NJC > < then I let her be. Anyway, I now have a couple of autographed Jane > Monheit cds. Maybe someday this will be like having a vinyl record > signed by Ella or Sassy. Maybe not. >> > > PROBABLY not, if she retains this kind of attitude towards those who buy her CD's! She wasn't really rude, Bob, and seemed perfectly willing to sign the cds. But I just didn't get the feeling she was interested in carrying on a conversation. Of course, I don't have the knack (not to mention charm) for engaging celebs that our dear Kakki does! Kakki probably would have had Jane chattering like a magpie & they'd be best buds by the night's end! Mark E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:39:45 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: shane's dad's cadillac (it was bobby's) shane's dad's cadillac last night we had shane's dad's cadillac rock' n' roll in the dashboard romance in the back of shane's dad's cadillac (it was bobby kennedy's) blue lights out on airport road motown, in a field in a farmer's grove big planes comin' overhead lowdown you can see the bolts you can see the tiretreads... shane's dad's cadillac (it was bobby kennedy's) shane's dad's cadillac (it was bobby's)... seriously, my buds an' ex-girlfriends used to cruise in this old boat to the drive-ins and the airport to smooch under the taking off and landing planes... and my brother-in law's name is ray! me speaks the truth... shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:29:09 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s njc shane mattison wrote: > my dad who just died, was the reason i met > some of the following, > > > > rt hon john g diefenbaker (PM of Canada) (story, turning him > down for lunch as a kid!) Well, hell Shane, he was prime minister forever, I thought everyone in Canada met him! You have been in prayers, you and your family, all day. Sounds like it was a healing experience today, which it should be. Take care ... (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:34:13 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: closest brush with celebrity (njc) Speaking of baseball, I forgot to mention I grew up and went to school with Louie Pinella, son of Lou Pinella. We played soccer together, and his dad came out a few times to help out the coach. I wasn't into baseball at the time and never really thought much of it. He had/has a sister named Christy who had a crush on my brother but I always thought she was kind of odd. Sometimes I wonder what happened to her after all these years. I'm rooting for the Braves but wish the best of luck to the Seattle Mariners and congratulate them on superb season. Victor in Athens Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:32:27 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: John Lennon Tribute Repeats Thursday! (njc) For those who missed it (like moi), TNT is repeating "Come Together," the John Lennon Tribute, tomorrow night: October 4 at 11 pm Eastern. Cheerz, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, who realizes that she's the grandest celebrity I've encountered (Ringo Starr's got nothing on her) - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:36:30 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s (NJC) In a message dated 10/3/01 8:03:58 PM, cactussong@home.com writes: << bobby orr >> I once wore Bobby Orr's ring. No, we weren't a couple -- Bob and Bobby! -- and I only briefly met him at an ad agency I used to work for in Boston. The story is, an art director friend of mine had Bobby's Stanley Cup ring for a photo shoot and she let me wear it while I sat in her office working on another project with her. I had forgotten about this story until I saw his name in your post, Shane. But now, after Kakki and Stephen's adventure, all my brushes with fame are looking pretty pathetic! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:49:18 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s >Also, due to Joni's age, the artists that perhaps made >the biggest impression on her WERE the Parkers, Birds, >Mingus et al... Aha, of course! I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but that *would* be her personal frame of reference. >One must remember that as talented and unique as Joni >was when she first started out, the Jimi's Bob's and the >rest of the group were her contemporaries, and in my >opinion, and perhaps hers as well, she was light years >ahead of many of them. Yes, and being a true artist she would not have desired to either compete with, be influenced by, or meld with her musical contemporaries at the time. (although it has long been argued that she got into a lot of the alternate tunings originally from Crosby). So in a way she was maybe detached from them and maybe also looking just a bit with a critical eye at them. She WAS light years ahead of many of them and that, in itself, puts her in a unique position. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:53:40 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: saskatoon man at the funeral reception i met a man who had been a fellow alumnus with my dad of the U. of Sask. in Saskatoon. He was asking me what i was doing now and i told him, and of my love for certain kinds of music...(!) ...and then he tells me he was at a little party in saskatoon, early sixties, when his friend brought over his friend...that is little joni anderson with her ukelele...he told me that she said she wanted to be a recording artist and that they had all said:.... "yah, sure kid... sure..." shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:30:45 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Verbal Abuse NJC I have been researching this subject in support of a friend who is going through the effects of this. I thought I would share some excerpts because this subject was recently brought up. There is more information at http://www.verbalabuse.com/ Verbal Abuse and its Devastating Impact by By Patricia Evans Verbal Abuse is insidious. Verbal Abuse is endemic. Verbal Abuse impacts millions of people. Verbal Abuse and its denial are crazy-making Verbal Abuse usually occurs in secret. If you've heard, "You're Too Sensitive" you've heard verbal abuse. Although many people have heard sticks and stones may break our bones but words will never hurt us, those who have suffered from verbal abuse know that words do hurt and can be as damaging as physical blows are to the body. Unfortunately, when people dont recognize verbal abuse for what it is, they may try to get the person who is putting them down, giving them orders, or correcting, denouncing, yelling at or ignoring them to understand them. Or, they may try to stop them by giving it back in kind. Since, in the majority of cases, people who indulge in verbal abuse are selective about whom they abuse, many people are surprised to hear that someone is experiencing on-going and periodic abuse from someone they know and have always seen as nice and friendly. Nice and Friendly is the persona of many an abuser. Although many folks are as nice and friendly as they seem, some are not. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:04:25 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: saskatoon man part two oh i forgot to mention that the saskatoon man told me that 'little joni anderson' had the reputation of a wild one, especially in those strait-laced days and in such a strait-laced town... faithfully recording the gist of the conversation, i am yours truly, shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:05:26 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: saskatoon man part two Shane, this is great! Please do give us the whole story!! Kakki, envying your parents' gin and tonic with Queen Liz ;-) oh i forgot to mention that the saskatoon man told me that 'little joni anderson' had the reputation of a wild one, especially in those strait-laced days and in such a strait-laced town... faithfully recording the gist of the conversation, i am yours truly, shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:08:23 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s (NJC) i know how you feel bob... kakki and steve rule! shane - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s (NJC) > > In a message dated 10/3/01 8:03:58 PM, cactussong@home.com writes: > > << bobby orr >> > > I once wore Bobby Orr's ring. No, we weren't a couple -- Bob and Bobby! -- > and I only briefly met him at an ad agency I used to work for in Boston. The > story is, an art director friend of mine had Bobby's Stanley Cup ring for a > photo shoot and she let me wear it while I sat in her office working on > another project with her. I had forgotten about this story until I saw his > name in your post, Shane. But now, after Kakki and Stephen's adventure, all > my brushes with fame are looking pretty pathetic! > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:10:14 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s njc thanx for your prayers, rev! giddyup! shane - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Lavieri" To: "shane mattison" ; "joni" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: v.i.p.'s njc > > > shane mattison wrote: > > > my dad who just died, was the reason i met > > some of the following, > > > > > > > > rt hon john g diefenbaker (PM of Canada) (story, turning him > > down for lunch as a kid!) > > Well, hell Shane, he was prime minister forever, I thought everyone in > Canada met him! > > > You have been in prayers, you and your family, all day. Sounds like it > was a healing experience today, which it should be. Take care ... > > (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:09:29 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Another Henry Diltz exhibit CA and AZ Not marking NJC because it will include photos of Joni ;-) For info call 1-800-778-9988 October 5 - 7 Pacific Edge Gallery 540 South Coast Highway Laguna Beach, CA November 2 - 4 The Scottsdale Seville 7001 N. Scottsdale Road Scottsdale, AZ Also, I could have sworn I heard something on the radio today about Graham Nash having an exhibit of his photos someplace in Valencia, CA this weekend but can't find anything on his website. Kakki, over posting limit for the day! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:26:35 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: tnts (njc) well kakki, they were guests at buckingham palace and there was somewhat a familiar bond because she had opened the trans-canada highway in my dad's riding, so after a few more meetings, i guess she trusted my mum enough to sit with her in a part of the palace and douse down several tanquerays and tonics (tnts)... i won't go further than that...she is my queen you know! but it reminded me of queen ex-mother-in-law , "HELLen"...who when she flew to calgary to stay at my folks...i had been requested to have 2 bottles of fine gin waiting for her (she could douse them down and then still walk a cool thin line as if nothing had happened - a businesswoman, they tell me)...so i drove all the way to the liquor store and got 2 bottles of beefeater...but when she saw them (after who knows how many on the plane, this millionaire hotel owner says to me, "oh, (like, what kind of savage are you!) i drink nothing but tanqueray..." so bollocks, i'm off drivin down to do the whole task all over again, but it serves me right 'cause i married her daughter... shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:17:08 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s As the younger brother of a sister of the 60's and 13 myself when it ended I have to say that it is indescribable and you all know what I mean but I must also say that the 70's was a decade of a hell of a lot of great music, I don't care what the critics say. It was essentially my decade, as far as it goes, and I loved the 70's. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kakki" To: "Stephen Epstein" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s > >Also, due to Joni's age, the artists that perhaps made >the biggest > impression on her WERE the Parkers, Birds, >Mingus et al... > > Aha, of course! I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but that *would* be > her personal frame of reference. > > >One must remember that as talented and unique as Joni >was when she first > started out, the Jimi's Bob's and the >rest of the group were her > contemporaries, and in my >opinion, and perhaps hers as well, she was light > years >ahead of many of them. > > Yes, and being a true artist she would not have desired to either compete > with, be influenced by, or meld with her musical contemporaries at the time. > (although it has long been argued that she got into a lot of the alternate > tunings originally from Crosby). So in a way she was maybe detached from > them and maybe also looking just a bit with a critical eye at them. She WAS > light years ahead of many of them and that, in itself, puts her in a unique > position. > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:21:01 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s I even proudly say that I even loved disco and still do. the critics be damned. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolphie Bush" To: "joni" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s > As the younger brother of a sister of the 60's and 13 myself when it ended I > have to say that it is indescribable and you all know what I mean but I must > also say that the 70's was a decade of a hell of a lot of great music, I > don't care what the critics say. It was essentially my decade, as far as it > goes, and I loved the 70's. > > Mack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kakki" > To: "Stephen Epstein" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s > > > > >Also, due to Joni's age, the artists that perhaps made >the biggest > > impression on her WERE the Parkers, Birds, >Mingus et al... > > > > Aha, of course! I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but that *would* > be > > her personal frame of reference. > > > > >One must remember that as talented and unique as Joni >was when she first > > started out, the Jimi's Bob's and the >rest of the group were her > > contemporaries, and in my >opinion, and perhaps hers as well, she was > light > > years >ahead of many of them. > > > > Yes, and being a true artist she would not have desired to either compete > > with, be influenced by, or meld with her musical contemporaries at the > time. > > (although it has long been argued that she got into a lot of the alternate > > tunings originally from Crosby). So in a way she was maybe detached from > > them and maybe also looking just a bit with a critical eye at them. She > WAS > > light years ahead of many of them and that, in itself, puts her in a > unique > > position. > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:34:29 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Fw: v.i.p.'s (very minimal jc) cary grant (a little story with it) > sam elliot (story) > > > give it up Shane. a good friend of mine is in love with Sam elliot. > > Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:56:49 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #458 - My Joni Sighting I don't think I could hold a conversation with Joni; I'm sure I would be too tongue-tied. Maybe I could just nod and do hand gestures. But anyway, a friend and I did "run into" Joni in Wenatchee, WA during the Dylan/Mitchell/Morrison tour in 1998. We had gone to the Saturday show at the Gorge and stayed overnight in Wenatchee before heading back to Gorge for the Sunday show (of course we went to both shows!). That Sunday morning we stopped at a hotel for a late breakfast. As we were finishing, I saw a Big Brown Bus pull up in front of the main entrance, a bus I had seen the day before at the concert. I knew it belonged to Bob, Van or Joni -- so I prayed, left my friend to pay the bill and RAN to the door. There I spied a woman who was obviously a nervous fan waiting for someone special to pass by. Whose bus is this!? I asked her. It's Joni's! I almost died right there. My friend joined the nervous fan and me, and just a few minutes later, there she came, right through the lobby and into the parking lot. She was wearing two hats and carrying a mesh bag full of bananas. I can't remember what she was wearing, other than the hats. Apparently the nervous fan had arranged through someone in Joni's crew for Joni to stop and talk for a few minutes. We respectfully stood back and let the arranged conversation unfold (but remained within earshot of course). They exchanged a few words, Joni explained that she was coming down with a cold, and then she got on the bus. My friend and I jumped in our car (our feet barely touching the ground as we gleefully sailed through the parking lot) and then followed the bus across about 30 miles of brown desert while listening to Hejira. That part was surreal. Bryan And here's an apology to whomever I offended a while back with my comment about Shawn Colvin, babies, gays, etc. I didn't have to make my point that way...sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:10:29 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: sam elliot (njc) i was the 'bouncer' in sam's movie "You know my name"... we were filming in the lougheed mansion, a very hot summer day in calgary... sam had to do take after take in this heat... when he was just coming out of the mansion, i says to sam, "want a bottled water?" "that'd be swell" says sam. i tell him i just watched him the night before in "conagher" (do i have the name right?)and he smiles, drinkin' his water.... "you know, that was my very very favourite of them all" and "all" gets resonated down to the depths of that mellifluous voice. "Put it there pal", smilin' behind that rainforest moustache and shakin' my hand till it could break...eyes-a-twinklin'... Well, sam spies just beyond the set a woman in a wheel chair with her gal attendent or friend...he walks over to her and i'll be damned if he didn't spend a whole half hour with her...he gets down on his knee and leans into her, swappin' stories...signin' things... then he gets a couple crew guys to come over and take his picture with them and everything....director's waiting all this time to 'rollem' again... i knew right then that sam elliot was one hell of a man... shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:02:08 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #458 - My Joni Sighting In a message dated 10/3/01 10:58:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BRYAN8847@aol.com writes: > She was wearing two > hats and carrying a mesh bag full of bananas. I can't remember what she was > Boy, she sure does like those bananas, doesn't she? Wearing two hats??? Rose confused rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:01:24 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: sam elliot (njc) thanks shane, my friend will be "more" in love with him after that story. we have a game we play at work where we pick the one person, other than significant other, we could spend eternity with on an island. it has to be a celebrity. hers was always sam elliott. mine-ann-margret. believe it or not, sam elliott got more votes than anyone. mel gibson came in second. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "shane mattison" To: "Dolphie Bush" ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: sam elliot (njc) > i was the 'bouncer' in sam's movie "You know my name"... > we were filming in the lougheed mansion, a very hot summer day in > calgary... > sam had to do take after take in this heat... > when he was just coming out of the mansion, i says to sam, > > "want a bottled water?" > "that'd be swell" says sam. > > i tell him i just watched him the night before in "conagher" > (do i have the name right?)and he smiles, drinkin' his water.... > > "you know, that was my very very favourite of them all" > > and "all" gets resonated down to the depths of that mellifluous voice. > "Put it there pal", smilin' behind that rainforest moustache and shakin' > my hand till it could break...eyes-a-twinklin'... > > Well, sam spies just beyond the set a woman in a wheel chair > with her gal attendent or friend...he walks over to her and i'll be damned > if he didn't spend a whole half hour with her...he gets down on his knee > and leans into her, swappin' stories...signin' things... > then he gets a couple crew guys to come over and take his picture > with them and everything....director's waiting all this time to 'rollem' > again... > > i knew right then that sam elliot was one hell of a man... > > shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:38:11 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: HRH kakki 'which queen during the day?', asks steve... 'which queen during the night?', asks shane... 'which queen during the day and night?', asks joni... how many other queens might we have out there hellvig? shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:59:49 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: More Jonifest Photos Pearl has generously sent me some more great Jonifest photos to put on my Photopoint site! Thanks Pearl! Come see more of the gang at the link below. Kakki http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1481388&a=13828911 If you use AOL, use this link to see the photos. Click here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:08:37 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: [Jonifest2001] More Jonifest Photos kakki and pearl, thank you! now i have TWO pictures at jonifest!!! ;-) WK - -----Mensaje original----- De: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Enviado el: Jueves, 04 de Octubre de 2001 02:00 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; Jonifest2001@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [Jonifest2001] More Jonifest Photos Pearl has generously sent me some more great Jonifest photos to put on my Photopoint site! Thanks Pearl! Come see more of the gang at the link below. Kakki http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1481388&a=13828911 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:09:25 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: More Jonifest Photos kakki and pearl, thank you! now i have TWO pictures at jonifest!!! ;-) WK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Kakki Enviado el: Jueves, 04 de Octubre de 2001 02:00 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; Jonifest2001@yahoogroups.com Asunto: More Jonifest Photos Pearl has generously sent me some more great Jonifest photos to put on my Photopoint site! Thanks Pearl! Come see more of the gang at the link below. Kakki http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1481388&a=13828911 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #459 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?