From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #455 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 2 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 455 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: PLEASE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!! [Bruyere ] VW Cabrio ad (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: (njc) More navel gazing (silly, but no lint), and sincere questions... ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Today's Articles: October 1 [les@jmdl.com] NJC Re: earth flag ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Me too njc ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: Covers #22, reporting for duty! ["John van Tiel" Subject: Re: PLEASE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!! This is cool ! Also way too hi-tech for me :-) I think this will work well. Thanks to you both. Heather At 05:17 PM 10/1/01 -0400, AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: >The wonderful Bob Muller ( I reeeeeeeeeeeeally thank you, Bob for taking on >this project for Anne!!!) suggested a VERY easy alternative to either sending >an mp3, wav file, or tape of your voice. > >He says: > ><would be to leave a message on my home answering machine, which is the >Megaphone program on my computer. I can convert their messages to wav. files >and then transfer them to CD. > >My home number is 864-233-7584. I don't mind if you put that info out to the >list, it may help especially overseas folks. > >The **important** note would be that they have to call between 8AM and 3PM >EST, otherwise they'll either get a busy signal (Dad or son on internet or >phone), or son will pick up thinking it could be girlfriend.>> > >A MILLION thanks for this info, Bob!! I intend to take you up on this >immediately! It also solves the problem with getting everything in a timely >manner before Anne goes in for her operation. > >Hugs, >Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 22:40:13 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: VW Cabrio ad (njc) > (b) A that aired a lot some time back and seems to have been > brought back has a bunch of kids driving in the moonlight to a party; when > they get there, the party seems too loud and drunken, so they just drive away > to enjoy the night; anyway, there's a folky male vocalist I don't > recognize...( That would be Nick Drake, who passed away too early in 1974. Buy any, and all of his recordings. Victor in Athens Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:51:15 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: (njc) More navel gazing (silly, but no lint), and sincere questions... You may want to check this site for your commercials: http://www.adcritic.com/ Search for the product. Maybe you'll find them there. The singer in the VW Cabrio spot is Nick Drake. Is the song in the Saab commercial "Key Largo"? Is the car a convertible? In the one I'm thinking of, the singer is Sarah Vaughn. Good luck! Brenda On 1 Oct 2001, at 22:28, BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > (1) Three car commercials (I suppose since all cars look alike -- to me, > anyway -- they have to use decent music to distinguish the brands): (a) a > Saab commercial with a jazzy female pop/folk vocal -- sorry I can't be more > exact, but maybe somone out there will know the commercial and the artist; > (b) A VW Cabrio ad that aired a lot some time back and seems to have been > brought back has a bunch of kids driving in the moonlight to a party; when > they get there, the party seems too loud and drunken, so they just drive away > to enjoy the night; anyway, there's a folky male vocalist I don't > recognize...(c) Don't even know the make of the car this time, but this > commercial features genXers again, driving (in some scenes) in a tunnel, with > a catchy start-and-stop piece that's a mix of hiphop, big band (lots of > horns) and I don't know what -- hard to classify. I think the song is either > a current or very recent hit, because I still hear it on the street from time > to time. Sorry for being so vague -- I should take better notes when I'm > watching TV. > > Oh, yeah, navel gazing: reading about lint, and then coincidentally > receiving a post (that I forwarded here) about a guy in the UK who collects > navel lint (his own, I believe) got me looking down at my own navel, which is > hard to miss by virtue of its being an outie (technically, an umbilical > hernia -- popped out like a turkey thermometer about twenty years ago for no > particular reason, didn't hurt, so I left it alone.) (Anyone see the movie > eXistenZ, dir. by Cronenburg? A friend of mine did the prostetics, and based > the virtual reality jack-in device on my belly button: I'm a star!!) (Idea > for a movie: openly gay guy with an umbilical hernia -- call it "Outy" -- > that's as far as I've gotten. My sister asked me what kind of car he would > drive... It runs in the family.) Anyway, any other outies among the > jmdlers? People (well, *some* people) ask "Are you an innie or an outie?", > but to tell the truth, I've never ever met another outie. Just curious. > > More serious question: What isp would y'all suggest for someone with a > five-year-old computer and no money? I've run into trouble with the largest > isp (you know who), although it finally got partially corrected today after > ruining the end of September for me financially. I understand "hotmail" is > free.. are there others? I'd appreciate any recommendations. > > Thanks, > > walt > > Now reading: printouts of Kakki and Steve's meeting with her Joniness and > trying not to drool. > > np: lots of early cocteau twins ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:37:58 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Car Commercials (NJC) So your third commercial....I'm gonna guess that it is for the Mitsubishi Eclipse. The song is "Start the Commotion" by the Wiseguys. You can see the commercial on either AdCritic or the Mitsubishi web site: http://www.mitsubishicars.com/car_home/carindex_check.mmsa?model=ecl01&flash=yes Hope your five year old computer can handle it! (Probably will if it's a MAC ; ) BTW - I think you might enjoy this article: http://slate.msn.com/moneybox/entries/01-08-06_113077.asp Best, Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:47:06 -0600 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: October 1 On October 1 these articles were published: 1979: "Joan, Joni, and Neil: '60s Stars in the '70s" - Chatelaine (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/7910chat.cfm 1998: "Taming the Tiger" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981001tgam.cfm 1998: "Tiger, Tiger" - Boston Globe (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981001bg.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 633 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:05:21 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: NJC Re: earth flag I have heard two cases of stolen American flags this past week. Woah, nelly! A local paper printed a double-page national flag of The United States Of America with complete instructions for display. It's a recovery phase I guess. America always has the nature of a wolf on our side. Lucky enough to survive, strong enough to heal, and smart enough to make a safer time of it NEXT time. joan talked about a wolf in wind driven snow...... - ----------- - ----------- - ----------- "The blizzards come and go. The stab and glare and buckshot Of the heavy heavy snow- It comes and goes. It comes and goes." (Wolf howling in the distance.) fading to black Eerily, wolf, survives to sing. - ----------- - ----------- - ----------- Bob Muller said, >>>>>While I don't have any problem with people respectfully and properly displaying the flag, I AM getting disgusted at the number of street vendors on every other corner here, selling plastic flags, ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:11:08 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Me too njc Me too >>>Dear Kakki, This report was absolutely fantastic! Thank you for letting us get to know her as well. I did not know that you and Stephen were painters. Fantastic! Your post made me feel like I was there with you! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 23:21:30 -0600 From: "Norma Meatheringham" Subject: for the smokers and dog lovers... ;-} "I like Yorkshire terriers. They're good to wash your car with. They fit right in the bucket." --Billiam Coronel *** "I finally quit smoking by using the patch. I put six of them over my mouth." --Wendy Liebman and weight-lifters... "And this is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing." ---Pat Glenn, weightlifting commentator ~~~~~~~~ "Just when you think that a person is just a backdrop for the rest of the universe, watch them and see that they laugh, they cry, they tell jokes... they're just friends waiting to be made." -Dr. Jeffrey Borenstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 01:41:12 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Saturday w/JM- my report- rather long Well, I am still reeling from the events of Saturday and meeting Joni- wishing I were still there! Firstly, my sincerest thanks to Kakki and Coyote Rick for making my time SO enjoyable. These SoCal members are too good to be true, and once again, the brother/sister hood that is uniquely understood when meeting a lister for the first time just blows me away. We are a very special "family" and I trust you all cherish it as much as I. I still haven't responded to the desert island post yet- I don't need 10! For me there are only 4- Joni, Fred Neil, Tim Hardin and Jerry Jeff Walker. This group I have been listening to since the age of 13 is all I need- the rest do not matter. I am 46 now, so it has been many years of influence and comfort. To meet Joni in person, and in the manner that Kakki and I were able to, is the penultimate dream come true! When Kakki bruised my shins, I thought I was going to have a heart attack! I was hyperventilating! Of course, we were plotting as to how we would make a connection happen. We had all kinds of things planned, what to say and do, if JM got up and left before we had the chance. It was the perfect opportunity to not let go by- there were 2 other times in my life- but it didn't seem appropriate then. I have shared with a few of you, that I just KNOW that when I attend the upcoming Harbourfront Tribute, I would be able to connect with Joni. How incredible that it happened on Saturday. I just felt that it was correct to follow Kakki's gracious lead! We were SO not the gaga JMDL fans and fawning all over her, and that is the reason I believe she connected with us. Never asked for a pic- FECK! and in the end, that doesn't matter- , didn't tell her our names, didn't fawn and tell her she has had such an influence in our lives.... And as a result, she just opened up her heart to us. She is absolutely gorgeous! Tanned face, under light blue rimless sunglasses, framed by a chocolate straw hat, hair tucked up underneath. Beautifully, understatedly dressed, but so fashionably so! Pale khaki capri chinos, a knit linen olive long sleeve t, and knit linen vest w/olive, burnt orange and tan stripes. Thin! Glowing and stunning! And beautiful jewelry- again understated but magnificent! (Hey! I'm in the fabric business!!) Kakki has already so eloquently reported our thoughts and the direction of the conversation. Coco, the dog is cute! Joni adores her! She mentioned more than once, how human Coco is, how willful. Interesting. More human than some humans she knows! The talk of painting was wonderful. She so truly paints in words, and even told us that she has always thought that way about her music. The events of September 11th have profoundly affected her- I cannot wait to see the Times article- the paintings, and I am sure, the appropriate Joni commentary along with them. She coined a new word for her style of painting- "repitism"- a follow-up to her mentioning that this is how she learns and retains knowledge- talks and thinks in tones of repetition. I think we will see some truly wonderful paintings this week. She says her style is more like Van Gogh, but very influenced by Mattise. "What do you paint? Landscapes? I am a landscape painter!" And much technical chat about painterly style ensued. Kakki and I were both blown away by her comments when the chat turned to music. "No one wants to hear what I have to say!" Duality here- a comment on her disgust for the music industry machine, or lack of respect from the listening audience/poor record sales? We assured her that her fans are always listening. We talked about the 60's scene- "So much is forgotten from that time" ;-) It was evident, her distaste for what is being produced today. Hence, the lack of inspiration. Kakki has already relayed the 60's vs. 40's thing- her time was Bird (Charlie Parker) Mingus., Miles- that was art- the 60's was not. Of course, I brought up Fred Neil- how there were SOME bright spots from the 60's- she recanted times of playing w/Freddie and Vince Martin in Coconut Grove........ I suggested his was a talent and voice that chose to be silent as a result of his disdain for the Machine- he dropped out- and that the world would be a better place had he not. She agreed, and immediately mentioned Tim Hardin. ACK!!!!!!! She was happy to chat about the new 2 CD project- same crew, the ex, Vince, the London Philharmonic- she will go in November. An interesting anecdote about Vince and her direction of Ludwig's tune- too difficult to repeat w/out her vocals- but the shrill and power of the flute on that song-she compared it to the Beethoven movie Immortal Beloved and Ludwigs reaction to the orchestra when they didn't get it quite right- just phenomenal! She so needs to direct all involved so it is right and correct to her standard. She mentioned that the remakes of HER songs will be covered as they were written, but the feel of the CD will be much more true to the jazz form than what she has done in the past. WOW! Of course, I could go on and on......... suffice it to say it was THE most brilliant moment of my life, and equally thrilling to be able to share it with a like-minded lister instead of a friend who just doesn't get it the same way we all do! The personal things will remain so, as I do believe we should respect Joni's sense of privacy. All for now, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:04:39 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Re: Joni smoking (NJC) "Do you smoke after sex?" "Don't know. Never looked." Bree wrote: (smokes after sex,you know, for me that's has always been the best part) ;-) (something to look forward to) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:11:07 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Re: Covers #22, reporting for duty! Reporting for European duty here too, SIR! Anyone on this side of the Atlantic who wants a copy (or of any of the previous ones), please contact me. Eurown John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:48:22 +0200 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Re: NJC Dogs Dear Vince, I just realized that you are back in the list or still on the list. Anyway, I'm glad you're still around! Love, Marian ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #455 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?