From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #396 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 396 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: NYC's Folks checking in ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Prayers [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: Thank you [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Lori Reason ["Victor Johnson" ] UN Peace Keeping Task force ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] in shock ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: in shock [Mags ] [none] [Susan Guzzi ] Re: in shock [colin ] Re: John Cale ["Garret" ] Re: ["colin" ] debra [colin ] Re: in shock [Don Rowe ] Re: NYC's Folks checking in ["Michael Paz" ] Re: marcel (njc) (md-2) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: [Jonifest2001] Re: SEND UP YOUR PRAYERS ... ["hell" ] NJC Re: marcel (njc) (md-2) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] JMDLER IN NYC NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] Red Cross pleas for blood ["Brenda J. Walker" ] I'm OK [dsk ] Re: Lori Reason [dsk ] Red Cross Pleas for Blood ["Brenda J. Walker" ] in shock too ["patricia van nunen" ] Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood ["Brenda J. Walker" ] folks checking in ["Kate Bennett" ] All We Need Is Love - I think this does have Joni content [Leslie Mixon <] terrorist attack njc ["joe farrell" ] Speechless [AzeemAK@aol.com] Ramona ["Marian" ] RE: NYC's Folks checking in ["Chris Marshall" ] RE: in shock ["Deb Messling" ] Re: I'm OK [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Speechless [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 [StDoherty@aol.com] God help us njc [Catherine McKay ] tragedy njc ["Dolphie Bush" ] behavior njc ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood [Catherine McKay ] Re: Speechless [Janet Hess ] The events in NYC and DC njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Ramona [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDLER IN NYC NJC [] "the dark abyss of annihilation" - NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] "Send up my prayer", njc ["jlamadoo, home account" ] We are OK (njc) [Dflahm@aol.com] Our friends abroad - Thanks ["Sybil Skelton" ] while ?? stick up Washington ["Russell Bowden" ] Open Letter To Kakki, NJC ["jlamadoo, home account" ] a tragedy and injury to civilization ["shane mattison" ] Re: in shock ["Mark or Travis" ] hello??? njc [evian ] Now [Nuriel Tobias ] NJC - sounding off ["Gregg Cagno" ] Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack [Michael Paz Subject: RE: NYC's Folks checking in Just got through to Patrick Leader's phone. He wasn't there, but is OK and staying at his sister's. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:00:30 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack In a message dated 9/11/01 9:56:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RoseMJoy@aol.com writes: > Looks like a war guys. PRAY > > A war against whom? How do you retaliate quickly against terrorists, especially when those who actually carried out the attacks were blown to bits in the explosions? Are we going to war against Libya, Iran, Syria and Afghanistan -- the four nations known to be the ones who mostly sponsor such terrorists attacks against the U.S? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:02:07 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack In a message dated 9/11/01 10:04:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, M.Russell@iaea.org writes: > I can't believe it was the Palestinians. > I think Islama bin Ladin must be behind it somehow. > > Marian > > I don't think it's a coincidence that these attacks occurred on the > . And isn't Bin Ladin a key supporter of the Palestinians? One arm of his organization is called the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:03:22 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Prayers Like all of you, I awoke today to this horror. I pray that you are all safe and hope that we'll be hearing from listers, especially those in NYC and DC and those who are traveling this day. I'm told from a friend who works for Continental that there's a plane with a bomb on it at the Cleveland airport. "Of the darkness in men's minds, what can you say that wasn't marked by history or the TV news, today?" Peace Ken from SF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:05:21 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Thank you In a message dated 9/11/01 11:04:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sharonbuffington@mediaone.net writes: > I am also concerned for our lister, Susan Guzzi because we have received > word that the Sears tower in Chicago has been attacked. That attack has > not really been confirmed so I am not sure about that. > > So far there have been no reports of any attacks in Chicago. This was probably a baseless rumor. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:07:52 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack njc In a message dated 9/11/01 2:00:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IVPAUL42 writes: > A war against whom? How do you retaliate quickly against terrorists, > especially when those who actually carried out the attacks were blown to > bits in the explosions? > I know, I know. Unlike Pearl Harbor, this wasn't an attack on our military. Who do we hit back? It was an attack using innocent people as a human bomb against other innocent victims. But one thing remains certain, for 4 highjackers to be arranged simultaneously almost. This was a very sophisticated attack. I can't wait to see who is responsible. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:53:02 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Lori Reason Does anyone know if Lori Reason was in New York or not? I've tried emailing her. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:03:20 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: UN Peace Keeping Task force I received this missive from a friend of mine who is with the UN Peace Keeping Task Force in Kosovo. "Hello from Vushtrri... UN-F____ING BELIEVABLE. Just as I finalized instruction for today, my colleague, Berit, told me that she received a cell phone text message from Heiti...her house mate. The message said that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center...and a helicopter crashed outside the Pentagon. When I left the class room, Sandy Higgs, an American, asked if I knew what was happening to my area...it's on CNN...everyone is in Steve's office...go in a watch. Well...I did. It is absolutely surreal...I saw the taped video coverage of the plane crashing into the second tower of the Trade Center...later, the tower crashing...then saw live coverage as the remaining tower seemed to implode. *sigh* Such carnage! My god...then heard that there were so far four commercial hijacked airplanes that were involved...one a 767 flight from Boston to N.Y...reports of a fifth hijacked plane heading in the direction of the Pentagon...with a fighter bomber sent to intercept. The anxiety builds. I empathize with the masses that are directly involved...and affected by this travesty. I stammer for words to adequately describe my emotional reactions...and cannot. I never thought that I would witness a terrorist attack of this magnitude on American soil. Those poor souls and their families....... The contingent meeting which was scheduled for 4:30 was canceled. Now, I ask...what better time to have a meeting...all Americans are present...and in utter shock at what just occured...feeling helpless and devastated. I pray that none of you are directly affected. May you all be safe from harm." I received this at 10:45 am this morning...so they did not have a lot of information. But you can see...the world now knows all about this and is most of the world is horrified. I wonder how the world trade center towers could crumble with just the impact from an airliner? Some friends and I were out working in my gardens and discussing this horrific attack...but we would come into the house to check the news. Finally we were too sick at heart to continue in the gardens and we have been watching the news ever since. Thank you all for updates on out New York and Washington DC friends. Here in Minnesota, all University classes canceled, things have ground to a halt with everyone glued to the radio or TV. I wish all of you love and peace......... Sharon Love and Peace........Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:02:01 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: from the front lines (njc) I talked to my brother this morning. He works for the National Weather Service, just down the street from the Pentagon. He could feel the explosions and was describing the smoke as we talked. He's considered essential personnel. He's on until this evening. He can also see Andrews Air Force Base. Natuarally, he didn't tell me what he could see from there. I'll be relieved when he's home tonight. My younger sister works in what could easily be a strategic target. (Because this is the internet, that's all I'll reveal.) I talked to her. Obviously, they're under highest alert. Again, I'll be glad when she's home. Sadly, a member of my extended family is among the missing. We're hoping for the best. But he works either in the towers or a building right next to them. (You know how you just half pay attention to these things at family gatherings...) Please pray for Jimmy. My heartfelt prayers to all who will be personally touched by this. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:04:22 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: in shock i am speechless. please, be safe and let us know how and where you all are. i have cancelled all my appointments for the day to be able to follow the news. all my love and support, wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:16:14 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: in shock Apparently all US flights are now landed safely. The Prime Minister of Canada has expressed his utmost condolences to our American family and also that he has stepped up measures of security however, he would not say what they are. Pretty bloody scary and horrible. I continue to send up my prayers. Brian and I are holding on to one another pretty tight today. love, Mags Wally Kairuz wrote: > i am speechless. please, be safe and let us know how and where you all are. > i have cancelled all my appointments for the day to be able to follow the > news. > all my love and support, > wallyK - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: [none] To All Our Brothers & Sisters in the JMDL Community:First thanks to all those who have been good enough to pass on information on fellow listers in the disaster struck areas. So far the news has been good on that front. Secondly, as you probably know now the Sears tower was not attacked, but is probably a major target. I no longer work in the tower (71st fl), as of July. - THANK YOU! However, I am in the smaller but just as much of a target - Board of Trade/Board of Options exchange (the 2 buildings are connected). We were evacuated soon after I arrived at work (late as I was). The weight of no word seems fit for this catastrophe, it is horrific. But on this day, I would ask that all of us here, be not a Democrat or a Republican but a human. Let us all stand together in this crisis that shudders our souls and find the love that is usually in abundance here. No egos, no facts or knee-jerk reactions. These are the times when the real essence of community, love, kindness and compassion can exemplify what it means to be a good human. This includes our neighbors from Canada (of course), our family in England, New Zealand, Germany, Holland, Argentina, Israel and all the other countries represented here. This is the new day that will live in infamy, we will never forget 9-11-01. But let us remember it as the day we put down our verbal weaponry and and all gave one collective hug. There are some things more important than winning an argument - cause, you know ... nobody really does. I know this is mushy and soft soooo ... wait till next week when I get caught up in the mix again! Peace Peace Peace & a Whole Lotta Love Susan Guzzi Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:41:05 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: in shock all flights over Londond have been banned for the time being. the City of London(the financial area) has been evacuated. Mags wrote: > Apparently all US flights are now landed safely. The Prime Minister of Canada > has expressed his utmost condolences to our American family and also that he > has stepped up measures of security however, he would not say what they are. > Pretty bloody scary and horrible. > > I continue to send up my prayers. Brian and I are holding on to one another > pretty tight today. > > love, Mags > > Wally Kairuz wrote: > > > i am speechless. please, be safe and let us know how and where you all are. > > i have cancelled all my appointments for the day to be able to follow the > > news. > > all my love and support, > > wallyK > > -- > And this loving is a drawing close, > a tuning in, an opening. > Until one perfect moment; > but how can it be expressed? > A receiving, an enfolding > as I cradle you in my arms. > Within my heart, within my soul, > You are my true love. > > --Lui Collins > > --- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:59:09 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: John Cale Rufus version of Hallelujah is superb. John Cale Hallelujah on the soundtrack to Basquiat, the 1996 film that was mentioned this past week on the list. it is certainly a fine rendition of the song. Rufus version is very reminiscent of Cales version. the standout tracks on that album are Cale, Pj Harvey doing "is that all there is?", and Them with "it's all over now baby blue", in my opinion the finest version of this song i've heard, but then, it *is* the version that i heard first. i'm now doing everything i can to take my mind of off the events of the day. i sat in front of the tv for hours today, just talking it all in, and considering the ramifications of this tragedy. or at least attempting to. i'm still in shock, and i feel very helpless in the face of tragedy so large, so daunting. i spent the day vascillating (sp?) between shock, outrage, confusion, disbelief and tears. my little prayers are being offered. Love and Luck to all GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:44:04 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: "colin" Subject: Re: not mushy at all, Susan. we are all family. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:45:27 +0100 From: colin Subject: debra Has anyone heard from Debra Shea yet? - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: in shock Thank God we've been able to hear such good news about our fellow list members who may have been in harm's way. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you. Here in St. Louis (and I imagine throughout the US) ... there is absolutely NOTHING in the skies that does not have feathers. I can't decide what's more disturbing -- the televised coverage or this silent, eerie local reality. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:47:00 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Re: NYC's Folks checking in Thanks for this info Chris. Michael - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Marshall To: Michael Paz Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: RE: NYC's Folks checking in > > Just got through to Patrick Leader's phone. He wasn't there, but is OK > and staying at his sister's. > > --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:50:58 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: marcel (njc) (md-2) Print the whole thing then not just excerpts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:06:04 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: [Jonifest2001] Re: SEND UP YOUR PRAYERS ... Kate wrote: > did hell fly out yesterday? I've just arrived home - the first thing I did was get on the PC and check to see if everyone was OK. We taxied into Auckland Airport to be told there had been a "world event" and that someone would be on board soon to brief us. We then heard the horrific news - which completely threw me and everyone else on the plane, particularly since we were on a United Airlines flight. They also initially informed us that it was the Empire State Building that had been destroyed, and it wasn't until we got into the terminal that we heard the real facts. I'm now trying to take it all in - I knew coming home would be traumatic, but not in this way. I'm so glad that (so far) everyone on the list is OK, and hope all your families, friends and loved ones have not been harmed. Thinking of you all Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:12:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: marcel (njc) (md-2) <> Marcel, you are correct to call me on that, and I apologize for not doing so in the first place. Below is the entire text of the message you sent to me. Doesn't really change my response though...and in the light of what has transpired today it REALLY comes off as a load of petty bullshit. Your complete message to me was: <> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:36:00 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: JMDLER IN NYC NJC I am okay. I viewed some of the action from an 11th storey window in Lincoln Center. I have been on the edge all day, everyone has. ON Amsterdam Ave, The REd Cross was filled with people signing papers, waiting to give blood, I passed a Fire Dept. where a small older woman left yelling out, "They lost 10! They Lost 10! They Lost 10!" I am shocked and scared and hope that we can all stick together on this. All I care is that people dont become too patriotic and decide to hurt innocent victims here in the US that had nothing to do with anything. If anyone in NYC wants to talk or anything I am here. at this email address. LOVE BLAIR > >Two 737 passenger aircraft were hijacked and flown into the World Trade >Center just before 9 a.m. this morning. JMDL members in New York, please >let us know that you are okay. > >Marian >Vienna _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:39:50 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Red Cross pleas for blood 0100,0100,0100If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give blood. Even if you are not in New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all across the nation to support the supply that is being sent into those cities. Red Cross 1-800-Help-NowVerdana ArialBrenda0100,0100,0100 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:48:29 -0400 From: dsk Subject: I'm OK Hi everyone, I was at my few-days-a-week pay-the-rent-job a few blocks from the World Trade Center. We'd heard the news about the planes. There were papers flying in the air outside the windows. Then the building I was in shook and lights flickered and there was instantly smoke outside the windows that was so thick we couldn't see the buildings ten feet away. I'm shaken, thoroughly shaken, have had a long trudge home after being held inside the building for hours because there was so much smoke and flying debris outside, and am about to sob all over my keyboard. 150,000 people visit those towers in the course of a day. Are all the other New Yorkers ok? Debra Shea M.Russell@iaea.org wrote: > > Two 737 passenger aircraft were hijacked and flown into the World Trade > Center just before 9 a.m. this morning. JMDL members in New York, please > let us know that you are okay. > > Marian > Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:52:36 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Lori Reason I don't think so, Victor. She and I usually get together when she visits and I've not heard from her. Even if she was here, she would be at the UN during the day and that's midtown on the east side and far from the World Trade Center. The UN was evacuated this morning. Debra Shea Victor Johnson wrote: > > Does anyone know if Lori Reason was in New York or not? I've tried emailing > her. > > Victor > > Victor Johnson > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, > Come when you lay down your head. > While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, > That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." > Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:10 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Red Cross Pleas for Blood If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give blood. Even if you are not in New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all across the nation to support the supply that is being sent into those cities. 1-800-Help-Now Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:59:50 +0200 From: "patricia van nunen" Subject: in shock too I am deeply shocked. I am following the news here and my thoughts and prayers are with you all. I don't find the right words right now. "And so I ask you please Can I help you find the peace and the star Oh, my friend What time is this To trade the handshake for the fist" It's in times like this we need each other. Love. Patricia. Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:57:51 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood You can also call 800-448-3543. On 11 Sep 2001, at 13:51, Brenda J. Walker wrote: > If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give blood. Even if you are not in > New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all across the nation to support > the supply that is being sent into those cities. > > 1-800-Help-Now > > Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:01:55 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood Here they're saying to schedule an appointment instead of just walk in. I heard that New York has enough blood to last for 48 hours. After that I'm sure there will be a huge need for it. Someone from NBC interviewed someone from the Red Cross and gave the number as "1-800-GIVE-LIFE". Mark At 01:51 PM -0700 9/11/01, Brenda J. Walker wrote: >If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give >blood. Even if you are not in >New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all >across the nation to support >the supply that is being sent into those cities. > >1-800-Help-Now > >Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:53:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: folks checking in i am on digest so forgive me for being a little behind. thank you all for reporting in regarding all our jmdlers in nyc & dc area... i have been glued to cnn & have heard nothing re: the sears tower so i assume it is okay... jeff arrived home from los angeles...in spite of the fact that they are evacuating LAX he says the traffic was not bad... i pray that this is the end of it...i pray we will not go to war... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:25:18 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: All We Need Is Love - I think this does have Joni content In the midst of the horrific gloom of this day, I wanted to share a little light with all of you. Yoko Ono was asked: "What do you think is the best way a John and Yoko admirer can help to perpetuate the Lennon legacy?" Yoko Ono replied: I think for myself and John, as well - we would both be very happy if some of the stuff that we did inspired you to enjoy your own life and gave you courage to go through life, life's hardships, and to discover yourself and love yourself. Try to make your heart dance once a day, and if you can't do that, make somebody else's heart dance that day. Keep on doing that for two months or more and your life will change totally. In a recent interview Joni was quoted as saying that the most important thing in life is to have a good heart. With love and hope for the future, Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:40:02 +0100 From: "joe farrell" Subject: terrorist attack njc Just got in from work 10.20pm uk time. Can't believe what's happening in America. How dreadful, people here are in shock too. It's the main topic of conversation. Hope all those on this list, all their family and friends are safe and unharmed. We are thinking of you all over here. Unbelievable! Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:40:07 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Speechless It's just unbelievable. I saw quite a lot of it live on TV at my mother's. It's like looking at a scene from some FX-laden movie. My thoughts are especially with everyone in NYC and Washington DC. And the fact that one of the flights was apparently on its way from Boston to LA makes me shudder - I imagine some of the listers might have been on that flight a week ago after the Jonifest. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:46:14 +0200 From: "Marian" Subject: Ramona I have been in a state of shock ever since hearing about the senseless tragedies which happened today in the USA. At one point on the way home, I burst into tears. The people who died are the obvious victims, but there are also all the children of those people who are now orphans. At another point on the drive home, the song "all we are is dust in the wind" started playing on the radio. That was also very heart-wrenching. Tonight, my friend Ramona called me on the phone. She expressed her condolences, described how her partner Robin came home in tears and said "How can I tell you about what happened today?" Of course she agrees that the whole thing is insane and dreadful. But she said the dark forces in the world want us to feel hopeless and afraid and that we have to somehow change the energy they have set into motion. She said we have to get up everyday and remind ourselves that "we are stardust, we are golden, and we have to get ourselves back to the garden." My love and prayers are with everyone affected. Marian Vienna marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:11:16 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: NYC's Folks checking in Kay Ashley also just showed up over e-mail, and is OK - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:35:54 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: in shock I haven't quite been able to process what's happened today. I hope all the JMDLers and your loved ones are safe. My community is west on Route 80 with a ton of NYC commuters, so we've had our share of anxious moments today. So far so good in my workplace and with my immediate family and friends. I can give money and I can give blood, but I feel so damn helpless. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:40:31 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: I'm OK Don't know you, Debra, but I'm so glad to hear that you are safe! There were three sonic booms here near Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton within the last half hour. We're told that it was because of military defense aircraft having just taken off headed overseas. Ken from SF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:44:38 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 All of this kinda illuminates the fact that name calling - the long hurt e-mials and all the other bullshit just isn't important. (Nor do some of us who aren't in the loop care). I hope it's the end of it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:45:09 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Speechless In a message dated 9/11/2001 5:46:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AzeemAK@aol.com writes: > My thoughts are > especially with everyone in NYC and Washington DC. And the fact that one > of > the flights was apparently on its way from Boston to LA makes me shudder - > I > imagine some of the listers might have been on that flight a week ago after > the Jonifest. > Thank you, Azeem and everyone else for saying what I just can't put into words. I keep looking at the TV for hours and hours and hours, listening to them repeat the same thing over and over again, and I *still* cannot believe that this could possibly be true. The only time I left the television is to check here for our beloved listers in NYC and DC. Thank God everyone is safe, and I am so very, very grateful this wasn't last week. So very sadly, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:07:55 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 In a message dated 9/11/01 6:51:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sharonbuffington@mediaone.net writes: << It is too bad you do not care. StDoherty@aol.com wrote: > > All of this kinda illuminates the fact that name calling - the long hurt > e-mials and all the other bullshit just isn't important. (Nor do some of us > who aren't in the loop care). I hope it's the end of it. Yikes I do care about the what happened in NYC ... I don't care about the name calling etc that's been happening in the digest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: God help us njc I am completely shocked by today's events. It is beyond comprehension. I hope everyone on the list, their families, their friends, their co-workers, are OK. I wish there was something concrete that I could do to help. In the meantime, my thoughts and prayers are with you all and with those families who have lost loved ones. - ------------------------------------------------------ Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:35:05 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: tragedy njc I agree completely with you StDoherty. Sharon, give it a rest. There are more important things to think about right now and I can't believe, especially at a time like this, that you would even waste any time posting that message. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:49:19 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: behavior njc I realized almost immediately after making that posting that what had made me so angry about it was exactly what I had just participated in myself, this squabbling. I apologize to Sharon and to everyone. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood Canadians too. If you are able to give blood, here's the url for the Canadian Blood Service who can direct you to a clinic. http://www.bloodservices.ca/english/home_english.html - --- "Brenda J. Walker" wrote: > If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank > today and give blood. Even if you are not in > New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that > people give all across the nation to support > the supply that is being sent into those cities. > > 1-800-Help-Now > > Brenda Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:35:05 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Speechless It's almost surreal that outside my window Connecticut Avenue, a main road here in DC, is virtually empty. Earlier today a friend who lives in rural Ohio asked me to put Deanna in her Sherpa carrier and then to put Deanna and myself on a train to Ohio. Somehow Deanna seemed to think that was totally insane; she curled up in a ball instead and fell asleep on the love seat. We send our love to all. - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: The events in NYC and DC njc I had jut arrived at work this morning when my co-workers told me what had happened. No one could believe it. No one did any work all day - they just kept wanting to talk about it and to find out what the latest developments were. I was at a meeting between 10 a.m and noon e.s.t. and, as I walked back up the street towards my office, I heard one of those blaaaat sounds that firetrucks make (the horn they use in addition to sirens to get other traffic out of the way or when they need to go through a red light.) Then I heard regular sirens (fire, amulance, police, the stuff you always hear when you live/work in a city. All I could think of was that something was going on here too. But it was just the usual city noises I might not notice other days. While I was in the meeting, one of the people attending was called away. Her home office is just next door to the American Embassy here in Toronto - they were evacuating all the offices in that area, in case someone might decide to attack the Embassy. The transit system was put on rush-hour service and many buildings were being evacuated, just to be safe. I left work early because i wanted to be with my kids - - I wasn't sure how much they had heard, what they might have been told and I wanted to be with them. Because we don't have a TV at work and because we're discouraged (forbidden really) to download any software that could allow us to watch TV on the net and because those few who had downloaded it anyway couldn't get onto the sites due to traffic, we were pretty much relying on a couple of radios and any updated newspaper reports on the web. All day long, I kept thinking about my jmdl brothers and sisters in NYC, in Washington, anywhere in the US and God knows where else - are they OK? did they get home? are their families OK? I'm still having a hard time taking this in, even though, as I type this, I'm feeling a chill go over my whole body. I can't even give blood because of my recent surgery and I'm not even sure if my blood is safe anymore. I wasn't able to read any of your posts until just now because I can no longer access my yahoo account at work. Reading the various posts you all sent over the period of this day is, in many ways, more chilling than anything I've seen or heard in the media - because, even if I've never met you, I feel that I know you all, and you're all part of my big world-wide family. When I read your posts, one after the other, it was a chronology of the day so far, written in real life terms. So glad to hear from you jmdlers in the areas that were hit, that you're safe, that you're home - glad Hell made it home safe and sound. Wishing you lots of love. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Ramona Marian, you are lucky to have a friend as wise and compassionate as Ramona. - --- Marian wrote: > [Ramona] said the dark forces in the world want us to > feel hopeless and > afraid and that we have to somehow change the energy > they have set into > motion. She said we have to get up everyday and > remind ourselves that "we > are stardust, we are golden, and we have to get > ourselves back to the > garden." > > My love and prayers are with everyone affected. > > Marian > Vienna > marian@jmdl.com > http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:51:23 +0100 From: Subject: Re: JMDLER IN NYC NJC I've been watching it all evening and feeling helpless. I'm so glad that our listers in NY are safe. My prayers are with those poor people who died and their families. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:52:53 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: "the dark abyss of annihilation" - NJC I received this e-mail from a friend tonight. I post it to remind us of how interwoven all of our lives and our actions are. I also post this for the great words of wisdom it contains from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Right now, my 24 year old niece is comforting a friend who lost many of his coworkers who were on one of the planes hijacked from Boston. How different the world seems today than it did yesterday. Here's my friend's e-mail to me: I don't know if you lost any friends today, but I did. Let's not forget a few words of wisdom: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil-hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars -- must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation. - -Dr. Martin Luther King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:12:17 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: "Send up my prayer", njc Interviewing a fireman, a newsman asked: "What's it like in there?" Fireman: "Lots of rubble." Newsman: "How much rubble is there?" Fireman: "Blocks." Newsman: "What?" Fireman: "Blocks.... There are whole city blocks of rubble. Ya figure both World Trade Centers and numerous, small, surrounding buildings are in the street. There are blocks of rubble." - --------- Thanks to all who are standing with America tonight, esp Tony Blair of the United Kingdom who made me tear up with pride. It means a lot. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:40:46 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: We are OK (njc) We are OK and the people we know who worked downtown are home safe. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:51:24 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Our friends abroad - Thanks I've been reading the postings on this list off and on all day - this has been a grueling day hasn't it? I have been especially touched by all the concern and compassion being sent towards the U.S. by all the listers outside this country. Somehow it makes me feel better - like maybe the WHOLE world hasn't gone mad, ya know? Just wanted to let y'all know your kindness is appreciated. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:22:46 -0700 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: while ?? stick up Washington Gang, A black day for all....Patrick, Alison, thank God you're ok. Unbelievably horrific. 24 years since 'Otis and Marlena' Tears and Prayers, Russ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:41:06 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Open Letter To Kakki, NJC Kakki, Thank God you're safe. When I think how you were recently on a plane from LOG to LAX, I just shake my head. It's just impossible to fathom. I can't imagine what it's like for innocents who live with terrorism in their world "24 x 7". Can you? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:33:06 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: a tragedy and injury to civilization first of all, let me express my shock and dismay for all the victims of this evil act. i pray for those still surviving as well as those suffering untold grief. my solicitude goes out to any jmdlers, such as debra and any other new yorkers or washingtonians that witnessed such horrible events or may have suffered the loss of a loved one. we in canada are in solidarity with you. our airports received many extra planes today that were bound for the u.s. i worked as an airport security officer. our airports are now all closed and you can't get one room in any calgary hotel. i know that there is not a single continental airport, indeed most airports in the world that will not be changed. Heightened security is both needed and will be done. My personal concern got very close today, as i was concerned that my former girlfriend and love, trish, was safe. Trish, a flight attendant with United Airlines out of New York, was usually assigned to the Newark to SanFran route. United Airlines graciously called me and informed me that Trish was not on that flight that was hijacked and crashed in pennsylvania this morning. I am certain that some of her closest friends (and i hope not new york roomate flight attendants) were. It will be a great grief for her, i am certain. i used to be in charge of a security checkpoint that guarded the gate to airside. i feel it personally, and i know many of my colleagues will too. Peace be with you all tonight. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:56:46 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: injury and tragedy my heart goes out to all of you, especially anyone close to this disaster... canada shares this emergency. extra flights were diverted here, and now all airports are closed. every hotel in calgary is without an extra room. my former girlfriend and love, trish is a flight attendant with United, out of New York, assigned to the same newark to sanfran route. United graciously phoned me to tell me trish was safe...but she is in grief for her friends... i was an airport security officer in charge of the vehicular security gate to airside...i know measures will be taken to increase security...it was too lax... i and my colleagues feel this deeply... May peace be with you all. shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:59:24 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: in shock > Here in St. Louis (and I imagine throughout the US) > ... there is absolutely NOTHING in the skies that does > not have feathers. I can't decide what's more > disturbing -- the televised coverage or this silent, > eerie local reality. Earlier this evening I did hear the sound of a jet in the sky. It seemed to go on forever. I was almost in a panic. I was on the phone with Travis at the time and he said it was probably a military jet. I did call one of the local television stations and they confirmed that the military did have aircraft in the skies over Puget Sound. All day the line 'the drone of planes at night has never frightened me' has been in my head. I'm not sure we'll ever be able to feel that way again in this country. I'm afraid our lives are going to change in ways we haven't even conceived of yet. I also fear that many more people will die before this is all over and done. I am so grateful (maybe we should all go back & read those posts from Kate, Shane, Colin, et al tonight) that our community seems to be unhurt. My first inkling of today's horrendous events was from the JMDL and my first thought was 'this has got to be a fucking joke!' But then I turned on the tv and there was the World Trade Center with smoke & flames pouring out of it. Completely unreal looking and yet all too real. I think I've been in shock all day since then. But I did go to work. At first I didn't want to but as I drove toward Seattle it occurred to me that I *had* to go to work. I felt it was important to maintain some semblance of normalcy and *not* let those bastards bring the workings of this nation to a complete halt. They've already succeeded in shutting down our air travel and creating mayhem in the nation's capital and its greatest city. We cannot let them freeze us in complete panic. That's my gut feeling anyway. Thanks to everyone who checked on our listers in NY & DC and thanks to those who checked in to let us know they're ok. My heart goes out to all those who lost loved ones in this day's horrible events. If anyone thought we were invulnerable in this country, there's no way they can ever believe that again. I pray that the repercussions of this are not too destructive but I don't have a very optimistic outlook right now. All we can do is pray and hold to those we love and also hold onto the belief that love is stronger than hate. My love to you all, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:06:06 -0600 From: evian Subject: hello??? njc Ok, I'm on digest -- is everyone ok????????????????????? Evian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Now A big big hug from israel to all of you. This day will fade. Cry and hope, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:22:24 From: "Gregg Cagno" Subject: NJC - sounding off I'm floored and in shock and still can't believe this is real, but I know it is. This world just makes no sense today. I worked in World Trade Center 2 for 2 years and am praying for friends there who are hopefully OK. I don't have a whole lot of hope after seeing those buildings crumble, but I'm trying to keep some some faith. Please send some prayers for survivors in NYC and DC. Give blood if you can. They need type O blood bad now and I fear they will need a whole lot more tomorrow. gregg ___________________________________________________________ Gregg Cagno greggno@pobox.com www.greggcagno.com ___________________________________________________________ "who's gonna take away his license to kill" - -Bob Dylan __________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:33:25 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack I see it as war against ourselves which is kind of a coincidence don't ay think?? Paz on 9/11/01 11:02 AM, IVPAUL42@aol.com at IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/11/01 10:04:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > M.Russell@iaea.org writes: > > >> I can't believe it was the Palestinians. >> I think Islama bin Ladin must be behind it somehow. >> >> Marian >> >> I don't think it's a coincidence that these attacks occurred on the >> . > > And isn't Bin Ladin a key supporter of the Palestinians? One arm of his > organization is called the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. > > Paul I ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #396 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?