From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #388 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 388 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Honeybees ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Speaking of weak & lazy minds - njc [Catherine McKay ] Fest Fotos (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Marcels's Review (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Re: Marcels's Review (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC [jan ] lesson njc ["Norma Meatheringham" ] Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC [Brian Gross ] Joni's Current Project(s) [Scott Price ] Re: some real Joni news [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni's Current Project(s) [Brian Gross ] Joni at Harbourfest [Brian Gross ] Re: some real Joni news [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni at Harbourfest [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Bittersweet Jonifest Part 2 (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni's Current Project(s) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Bittersweet Jonifest Part 2 (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Middle East fundamentalism , NJC [AzeemAK@aol.com] jonifest NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni's Current Project(s) [jan ] Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC [jan ] RE: Paz's (NJC) ["Donna J. Binkley" ] RE: Paz's (NJC) [jan ] Notes from Jonifest Central (Looooooooong!) (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] You know you are in a new millinium when.....(njc) [jan ] Loss ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:50:29 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Honeybees No No and No but you may be interested in this... :) http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/bkCD/HBBiology/life_history.htm Catherine McKay wrote: this is probably gross, but is honey, um, bee shite? If so, it lends a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Eat shit!" (or "Mange d'la merde" en francais.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Speaking of weak & lazy minds - njc I took the day off work because... a) I'm having a new furnace installed before the old one blows up or conks out in mid-winter b) I was feeling kinda, just kinda, shitty, when I woke up today and just DIDN'T FEEL LIKE going to work (got a problem with that?) c) I have a bunch of work-related stuff that I need some alone-time to do, and I can't get this done at work because the phone keeps ringing, the e-mails pour in, or people actually have the nerve to want to come into my office and speak to me! So, what am I doing? Am I writing job specs? Am I doing performance appraisals? Am I doing my monthly statistical reports that are overdue? NOPE! I'm reading and posting to the jmdl, because it's just so much more fun and i really DO have a weak and a lazy mind. Sorry for the virtual/verbal diarrhea (sp?) folks - I think I'm entering a "manic" phase of some kind. I will now sign off and do WORK. (Durn.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:53:20 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC I believe you Cath. :) It is really who we fall in love with. Catherine McKay wrote: > We're all basically bisexual. The *real* bisexuals > are on or close to the middle, so they're attracted to > both sexes. The heteros and homos are variously > placed along this line of (whateverness), and are > therefore sexually attracted to the same/opposite sex. > It is therefore possible, using this theory, for a > hetero- to find a same-sex person to fall in love > with, as it is possible for a homo- to find an > opposite-sex person (this is proven by the impending > nuptials of Kerry-and-Steve). > > So, for all the "confirmed bachelors" and "spinsters" > out there, it's probably true that you "just haven't > met the right girl/guy yet". Tee hee. > > Catherine (who hasn't met the right girl yet. Or the > right guy, for that matter, although I have met at > least one wrong one, and still trying to figure out > where asexuality fits in on my continuum; otherwise my > theory is blown to smithereens.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:03:49 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Woke up it was a Chelsea Morning w/ Post JoniFest Blues pt. 1 In a message dated 9/7/01 8:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RoseMJoy@aol.com writes: << I was just listening to Joni's performance at the White Swan in Leicester, Uk 1967. Thank you Jim, and yes it met all expectations. Life is good and full of little unexpected treasures. >> Yes J.J., thank you so much for sending this rare Joni recording to everyone at Jonifest. It's great to hear some Joni songs that I've never heard before. Your a wonderful man Jim Johanson! We will definitely get you to the next fest! I miss you Rosie! Jimmy np Joni "Little David" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:07:48 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Paz's (NJC) Texas- It's NO secret about the shrimp recipe, but I guess the Paz sandwich is "out the bag", thank you very much. The marinated shrimp recipe is one I conccocted a few years ago. Basically it is peeled and butterflyed shrimp marianated in (preferably sour orange juice but minute maid works ok), lots of fresh lime juice, lemon juice, and a special seasoning not available in the US called Don Julio's Sal y Naranja Agria. You can fake this and just make your own with Salt, Pepper, Cumin, and Lemon Pepper. Marinate all these ingridients over night in a bowl and agitate frequently. Take shrimp out of marinade and put them on a flat pan. Sprinkle more of the dry seasonings on the shrimp coating them well. In the meantime melt REAL butter in a sauce pan and add some of the marinade cooking slowly, you can also add some more fresh lime juice here. Pitch the little buggers on a hot grill and baste with the butter marinade. The shrimp really are already mostly cooked from the acid in all the citrus so you can cook them as much as you like. I like mine a little toast on the outside and tender inside. Try this same recipe on lobster (it rocks!). Love Paz Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:13:01 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: Paz's Hey Bud! I've been meaning to tell you, that shrimp appetizer at the fest was a culinary orgasm. May we have the recipe or is it a secret, like the famous Paz sandwich? Texas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:38:56 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Fest Fotos (NJC) Kakki- Thanks for posting the fotos there are some real gems here. I love the one of Marcel dancing (he looks alot his alterego Satan in this one). Love Paz Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:27:31 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fest Fotos These don't approach what is soon to come from Lama Diltz, John V.T., Mags and others but thought some of you would like to see a few from the fest while we wait for the masters. (Some of these were also taken by Sharon whose camera I retrieved from the lost and found at Atty Mays ;-) Kakki http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1481388&a=13728107 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:10:39 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Marcels's Review (NJC) Marcel wrote: "Michael and I did Long Time Gone I did a Stephen Stills song 4&20 for her and its always nice to keep a promise. Hells a huuuuge CSNY fan and I told her if she ever came to a fest I would do a Stills song for her. " Marcel weren't you also there for Wooden Ships or had you vaporized by that time. My recollection is you were still amongst us as was Victor and a whole host of voices and movers and shakers. Your review has been cracking me up. The virtual tour thru Boston was splendid and your writing is brilliant as usual. Love Paz (feeling all right) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:30:28 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Marcels's Review (NJC) > Marcel weren't you also there for Wooden Ships or had you vaporized by that > time. My recollection is you were still amongst us as was Victor and a whole > host of voices and movers and shakers. Wooden Ships and Helplessly Hoping were played with a heavenly host of voices... Victor NP: Joni @ Boston '00 Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:47:41 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC At 10:32 AM 9/7/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: (snip) >We're all basically bisexual. The *real* bisexuals >are on or close to the middle, so they're attracted to (snip) Routinely I get rejected by both sexes, so I guess I'm Bi. - -jan :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:17:46 -0600 From: "Norma Meatheringham" Subject: lesson njc we all should bear in mind... A Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to "honor thy father and thy mother," she asked, "Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters?" Without missing a beat one little boy answered, "Thou shall not kill." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:15:24 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > (snip) > >We're all basically bisexual. The *real* bisexuals > >are on or close to the middle, so they're attracted to > (snip) jan wrote: > Routinely I get rejected by both sexes, so I guess I'm Bi. > -jan > :) now me: maybe you should come to a fest there's no rejection of *anyone* there missing you all, shy brei np: todd mundt show on npr from yael's part of the world - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:20:18 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: some real Joni news Joni's next release will be a "two record set", it will be recorded in London in November with handpicked musicians from the London Philharmonic and BBC orchestra. Songs will include "Coyote," "The Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song)," "Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's Tune)," "For The Roses," "Just Like This Train," "The Dawntreader," and presumably "Refuge of the Roads," "Borderline," and "Cherokee Louise." Joni says she has given up songwriting due to the artistic climate of the music business (or is it the business climate of the artistic business?). Quote: "I can't write songs in this climate. I'm basically phasing out; I'm retiring again. I'm a painter, and I got derailed into this other game, and so I'm going back to my paints." [I will just add that thank goddess she got derailed into this other game. Her painting, as wonderful as it is, would never have touched millions as deeply as her music has.] She also says that her Geffen era albums will be rereleased, some with extra tracks, including a version of Dylan's "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue." This info and much more is from her conversation with editor- in-chief of Billboard Timothy White, entitled "Words From A Woman of Heart and Mind". The full article is here: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/musictomyears/index.jsp RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:19:55 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Joni's Current Project(s) A friend sent me this link to Billboard.com which features Joni chastising the current state of the music business (can you believe it? :-) and discussing her next album, to be recorded with an orchestra in London. She also names several of the tracks. Good stuff! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:36:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: some real Joni news WOW! Thanks Randy & Scott for this news...I'm anxious to read the whole deal. Of course, I wish she was inspired to write, we can always hope. In the interim I'm glad she's still inspired to "re-create". Bob NP: JT, "Shower The People" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:49:32 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Joni's Current Project(s) Scott Price wrote: > > A friend sent me this link to Billboard.com which features Joni chastising > the current state of the music business (can you believe it? :-) and > discussing her next album, to be recorded with an orchestra in London. She > also names several of the tracks. Good stuff! > > thanks, Scott! from the article: I'm recording 24 of my songs, with handpicked players from the [London] Philharmonic and some of the BBC's players to make the strongest orchestra we can put together in London. We did the last one that way, and now we're doing a two-record set of new arrangements of my music that we'll record in November for Reprise." Which songs has she selected for the program? "The ones that have classical compositional aspects," she says, citing "Coyote," "The Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song)," "Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's Tune)," "For the Roses," "Just Like This Train," and "The Last Time I Saw Richard." "Also," she adds, " 'Refuge of the Roads,' for instance, translates really beautifully to this approach, as does 'Borderline' and 'Cherokee Louise.' We're also doing 'The Dawntreader' from my first record. I'm just distilling what I think are essential songs in terms of my best writing but bearing in mind what translates to symphonic production." Does Mitchell know what she's going to name the new album? "Well, I've been quitting since I entered this businessbsince I wrote 'That Song About the Midway' [from Clouds, 1969]," she allows with a chuckle. "So in my current state of mind, I'm thinking of calling it Swan Song." now me: oh my god!!! let's see, recording in Nov 2001 that means release sometime in 2003, right? looking forward to it, a lot, shy brei np: still the todd mundt show, where the subject is communications between people, and it reminds me of one of the wonderful things about this list! - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:58:10 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Joni at Harbourfest YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESKIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Mags and I are unexpectedly going to make it to see our Joan at this Tribute event We have seats in the 20th row yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss can you tell i'm a bit excited????????? Mags rocks!!!!!!!!!! not-so-shy-brei - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:18:27 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: some real Joni news WOW, Abundance is all I can say. So much truth shines through this conversation. Her light shines like "Starry Night" man. Yep fullness, like a canopy of stars. The tent is so heavy, the big dipper can be seen ;~) Thanks you so much Randy for forwarding this to the list today. In the future when you see some real news like this, can you please forward it right away to Jim Johanson at Joni Mitchell.com Thanks again Randy Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:26:00 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni at Harbourfest In a message dated 9/7/01 2:02:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, briangross@rocketmail.com writes: > Mags and I are unexpectedly going to make it to see our Joan at this > Tribute event > We have seats in the 20th row > yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss > > can you tell i'm a bit excited????????? > > That's Great Brie! I'm so happy for the two of you. You deserve to be there. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:31:50 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Bittersweet Jonifest Part 2 (NJC) I am still in a strange place between sadness and joy (I guess I cam gonna have to write a few more verses to The Space Between). All my friends here have been asking me about the fest and I have been gleefully giving them many recounts of all the amazing things that I did, saw, and heard over the weekend. Last night sitting in the Ugly Dog Saloon where I am playing on Friday the 21 of Sept., I was caught staring off into space on many an occasion. One person remarked that I had this sad look on my face, but what was I smiling at. It's very strange! Anywho my body is finally feeling somewhat normal again and my sleep cycle is back to almost normal. I have enjoyed so many of the reports so far and everyones take on the proceedings. The documentary outta be a gas and a half. Thanks to everyone for their kind words on my playing and of support for the whole Atty May's debacle. I have decided that whole thing was entirely my fault and it was dues to poor planning and an insatiable urge to please everyone. We should have put the band on last and be done with that, instead of trying to break it up like I did. The people who wanted to dance and listen to that type of music would have hung out anyway. I should have set it up this way with May in the beginning for I am sure she would have done whatever I wanted. I was just devastated that people like Steve Polifka, Donna, Leslie, Willy the Shake, and everyone else who could have played at May's didn't. The whole Dan thing I don't even want to touch on cause it is not worth it. Suffice it to say that I still love my Ms. May and will always want to do something there, but I think that the music bit is not one of them. I'd rather stick with the acoustic sessions like we had on the beach which is such a vivid and warm memory in my heart. Other highlights that I did not mention in my last post: Dancing to the Rockin Jake Band at May's with Nikki, Ashara, and Leslie. I don't dance much anymore so this was a fun break. Willy the Shake- You shook us babe! What a great set and such variety in music and such originality in approach. To all my Shrimp Peeling Troops, especially Kate who was kinda timid at first but got in there and was the bomb at peeling. You could be a coon ass girl with no problem. We just have to work on your accent. Thanks to all the musicians that risked life and limb with peeling cause you might have cut yourself and not been able to play and that woulda been terrible. Also thanks to The Peeler Band for the music. It was great to see Lori, Jody (and to meet Scott), and also Marilyn again as well as hanging on the back deck The Feckers out there Susan, Suze, Bob, Alison, Les Ross, Donna, Sharon, et al. Hell thank you so much for the video of Eric Johnson and OH MY GAWD MIXONS YOU RULE!! The Eric Johnson material that you brought me is amazing. Lots of stuff I have never heard before. I am also really enjoying the Jon Anderson stuff. Feck Me SO MUCH MUSIC so little time, but that's the story of my life. Brother Lamadamadoo you went above and beyond the call of duty and sorry about the stink in your car, passengers (HI Yael!), and other items. Biggest regrets (I've had a few) Not enough time (to spend with each and everyone of you) I want a week of rehearsals next year. And a couple of mandatory functions like group sessions where we just sit and talk for awhile and not be afraid that your missing the softest beautiful playing of someone like Les Ross. That I had to come home. I think Camp Joni would be a lot of fun. Shrimp! Spilling a bottle of Tony's in my suitcase. Not bringing an acoustic guitar (next time I am!) That it's not time to go to MECCA! Love and hugs to you all and I promise to do the DAT to CD transfers next week and get together with Les for distribution. Paz NP-Because I Told You So-Jonatha Live ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:47:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC - --- jan wrote: > At 10:32 AM 9/7/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: > (snip) > >We're all basically bisexual. The *real* bisexuals > >are on or close to the middle, so they're attracted > to > (snip) > > Routinely I get rejected by both sexes, so I guess > I'm Bi. > -jan > :) Awwww, poor you! You're probably making it all up - I bet you've got SWARMS of suitors (not bees!) at your door. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:49:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: some real Joni news - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Joni's next release will be a "two record set", it > will be recorded in > London in November with handpicked musicians from > the London > Philharmonic and BBC orchestra. > Songs will include "Coyote," "The Sire of Sorrow > (Job's Sad Song)," > "Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's Tune)," > "For The Roses," > "Just Like This Train," "The Dawntreader," and > presumably "Refuge > of the Roads," "Borderline," and "Cherokee Louise." WOW!!! When, when, when??? (will we be able to get it, that is...) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's Current Project(s) - --- Brian Gross wrote: >Does Mitchell know what she's > going to name the new > album? "Well, I've been quitting > since I entered this > businessbsince I wrote 'That > Song About the Midway' > [from Clouds, 1969]," she allows > with a chuckle. "So > in my > current state of mind, I'm > thinking of calling it > Swan Song." > Maybe Bjork has a dress that Joni can borrow ;) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:56:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bittersweet Jonifest Part 2 (NJC) - --- Michael Paz wrote: > Thanks to everyone > for their kind words on my playing and of support > for the whole Atty May's > debacle. I have decided that whole thing was > entirely my fault and it was > dues to poor planning and an insatiable urge to > please everyone. We should > have put the band on last and be done with that, > instead of trying to break > it up like I did. Oh, coulda/shoulda/woulda - for crying out loud, don't blame yourself - you can't plan everything, and sometimes shit just happens. You are generous to the max but you're not God (yet - you'll have to wait for Wally the K to give up his starry crown.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:21:50 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC singers Emmy Lou is in Down From the Mountain which I am going to see on Sunday. A live concert movie of music from O Brother Where Art Thou. Has anyone seen it? Maybe you could catch it in Seattle, Mark. Jerry Mark or Travis wrote: > > Thanks to this list I have become aware of some music I would > possibly not > > have heard of and I am very grateful for that. Which leads me to my > comments > > and a couple of questions. Firstly, I have to say that I like > Emmylou Harris' > > 'Wrecking Ball' very much but am I the only person who dislikes the > way her > > voice fades away at the end of many of the lines, particularly on > the early > > tracks? > > I don't think it's any secret that I love both 'Wrecking Ball' and the > follow-up 'Red Dirt Girl'. There's something about the way her voice > breaks on those high notes that just makes these records more > gut-wrenchingly emotional for me. I hope Emmylou decides to write > more because the songs on 'Red Dirt Girl' are gorgeous. I don't have > much of anything bad to say about either one of these records. I > think she's at the top of her game right now & I can't wait to hear > what she decides to do next. > > Mark E ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:29:07 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Middle East fundamentalism , NJC In a message dated 07/09/01 14:19:04 GMT Daylight Time, olszer@xlsecurity.com writes: > Who is this Dr Morley? What are his > credentials? How can you be sure that the other statements are facts? << How can you be sure the snakebite URL statements are facts? >> Jesus Christ, have you missed the whole point of my posts?? Answer is, I NEVER said they were facts. They are another point of view. I also don't like the idea of posting second hand propaganda to the list, whoever is doing it. << I guess I could spend my whole day trying to prove or disprove every word but at the end of the day I agree with Colin, this discussion is going nowhere since everybody sticks to their sources.>> I agree. > Further, are you saying that it's wrong or somehow less valid to "base an > opinion on anything but fact"? I disagree. Opinions can be based on > intuition, common sense, experience, probability, as well as other people's > opinions. Relying too much on "facts" can engender a rigidity that can > hamper rather than promote enlightenment. << Action speaks louder than words.>> I have no idea what this is supposed to convey. << Also, another example of the dialectic tactic I just described above. >> I don't think of anything I've said as a tactic. As to your earlier statement about dialectics: << At any rate, I'm not a dialectics professional and this debate is turning into just that: pick one word/one phrase/one statement from a post, tear it apart and disclaim the whole argument.>> If that's what you think dialecticism is, I don't know where you got your definition from. That's enough for me. Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:13:15 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: jonifest NJC Thank you Rose, Kakki & Sharon for the wonderful photos! What a dream-like weekend it was. My only wish is to go back & do it again...this time being sure to make the opportunity to connect with everyone- one to one. It all went by so fast! Oh, I guess that is what next year is for... I am really grateful to all of you who came from other countries to make this event so special. I hope you all will return next year! Really extra super duper special thanks to Ashara & Sal for your incredible generosity, Les for being glue that holds us all together, Maggie & Heather for all your culinary & decorative creations, & Paz for being such a musical force of organization & generosity. If Ashara & Les are the mom & pop, Paz is the mayor of JMDL land I think. Thank you to all who wrote of your weekend memories. Mine seem to come in tiny spurts & I am reluctant to start trying to remember them all because I know I will leave something or someone out. I really look forward to seeing the video & hearing the CD. All who performed were simply magnificent. I was really blown away with the talent both on stage & off. And with meeting so many wonderful warm hearted music loving folks. Thank you all for making this weekend so memorable (& for awakening my husband to the profound appreciation of Joni's genius). ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:48:30 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: Joni's Current Project(s) At 02:52 PM 9/7/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: >--- Brian Gross wrote: (snip) >> current state of mind, I'm >> thinking of calling it >> Swan Song." >> > >Maybe Bjork has a dress that Joni can borrow ;) I liked that dress. Reminded me of that Yeats poem. Anyways, try to remember what anyone else wore that night. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:53:01 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: KIWI news Hell would be proud of NJC At 02:47 PM 9/7/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: (snip) >Awwww, poor you! You're probably making it all up - I >bet you've got SWARMS of suitors (not bees!) at your >door. I wish! The only suitors I have this casual Friday are the polyester leisure suitors asking me what's up for the weekend. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:10:30 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Paz's (NJC) Thanks Paz, that sounds great! TX - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz [mailto:jmpaz@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:08 AM To: Donna J. Binkley; joni@smoe.org Subject: Paz's (NJC) Texas- It's NO secret about the shrimp recipe, but I guess the Paz sandwich is "out the bag", thank you very much. The marinated shrimp recipe is one I conccocted a few years ago. Basically it is peeled and butterflyed shrimp marianated in (preferably sour orange juice but minute maid works ok), lots of fresh lime juice, lemon juice, and a special seasoning not available in the US called Don Julio's Sal y Naranja Agria. You can fake this and just make your own with Salt, Pepper, Cumin, and Lemon Pepper. Marinate all these ingridients over night in a bowl and agitate frequently. Take shrimp out of marinade and put them on a flat pan. Sprinkle more of the dry seasonings on the shrimp coating them well. In the meantime melt REAL butter in a sauce pan and add some of the marinade cooking slowly, you can also add some more fresh lime juice here. Pitch the little buggers on a hot grill and baste with the butter marinade. The shrimp really are already mostly cooked from the acid in all the citrus so you can cook them as much as you like. I like mine a little toast on the outside and tender inside. Try this same recipe on lobster (it rocks!). Love Paz Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:13:01 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: Paz's Hey Bud! I've been meaning to tell you, that shrimp appetizer at the fest was a culinary orgasm. May we have the recipe or is it a secret, like the famous Paz sandwich? Texas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:17:37 -0700 From: jan Subject: RE: Paz's (NJC) >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Paz [mailto:jmpaz@bellsouth.net] (snip) >Texas- >It's NO secret about the shrimp recipe, but I guess the Paz sandwich is "out >the bag", thank you very much. The marinated shrimp recipe is one I >conccocted a few years ago. Basically it is peeled and butterflyed shrimp (snip) When I was glancing over the blizzard of post Fest msgs I kept seeing 'peeled shrimp' and I thought it was some sexual euphemism. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:40:12 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Notes from Jonifest Central (Looooooooong!) (NJC) Oh My! It has taken *days* to even find words this year. This Labor Day Jonifest, as Wally predicted, was beyond all imagination. The amount of love, caring, and genuine community that was in abundance throughout the Fest was truly amazing and so incredibly special. I have many thoughts and wonderful memories: First, thank you from the very bottom of my heart to the "committee" that made it all possible: Maggie, my right-hand woman and Cordial Culinary Queen: You are the salt of the earth, and I am so blessed to have you as my dear friend. From the first moment I called to talk you into doing another Fest to the last dish that was dried, you were right there to organize the food and make sure that everyone had a stomach filled with wonderful delicacies. Thank you. Heather, Divine Diva of Decorations: Every year the nametags and hall decorations just get better and better. You are the most creative woman and it was AWESOME to have all the Joni-related touches, the "Blue" tablecloths, the "Roses" on the table, the Chinese lanterns, and much, much more. Thank you. Anne, Musical Mistress of Manipulating Melodic Modes: It was a great gift to have you join the worker bees this year. Your organizing of musicians for Saturday made everything go so smoothly. Thank you for your beautiful harmony. I really wanted to make this a short post, with perhaps a few highlights for me, but I find that each and every one of you touched me in such a deep way that, at the risk of this post droning on for waaaaay too long, (actually it will probably take and entire digest!) I must do what a FestMama has to do. In no particular order whatsoever: Sharon: I am SO glad you let me help you change your mind when you decided not to come to Jonifest! What a beautiful soul you are. Every time I looked up, there you were ready to help with whatever needed doing. I so appreciate everything you did, and especially the moral support before, during and after the Fest. Thank you. Stephen: It was so great to finally meet you and see what was no surprise: that you are a wonderful, sweet, (and handsome)! guy. It was great to spend time with you, and taste your delicious cooking! You can be my chef anytime at all! Thank you. John: Speaking of chefs, when Stephen is on his day off, you are on!! What an INCREDIBLE Friday lunch! You are so wonderful to bring cheese and chocolates from Holland to share with everyone at Jonifest. Thank you for your beautiful spirit, your amazing generosity, and the huge amount of love you exude at every moment. Claud: Your sweet, calming presence kept me sane throughout the weekend. Every time I started to go into "overwhelm mode" I just looked your way, and relaxed once again. Thanks for your MTV pics, your beautiful singing, and your warm smile. Mags and Brian: It is so joyful to see the two of you together, and so happy. Thanks for the potato salad, and may you make many more in your lifetime together. Mikie: You are AMAZING to bring all that shrimp to Topsfield! Everyone really loves it, (except me, of course!) and it is definitely a Labor Day tradition. Do you *really* think I would possibly have Jonifest without it???? ;-) Thanks Mikie, my honeybunch! Gregg: I've been listening to your CD's nonstop since Jonifest ended. Your sweet, sweet JT sounding voice just fills my soul. I don't know if you are aware, but I think every single person in that room fell in love with you the minute you got up on stage. Your enthusiasm and joy of music and performing, and your truly good heart was infectious! Thank you especially for the wonderful Millworker, and singing with me. Les Ross: You are my fairy godfather!! Almost the minute I asked for some things to be brought over from the UK, you had purchased them for me. I am SO excited about my Maddy CD!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for making me cry at your Amelia Sunday night. It touched me very deeply. Kerry: It was SO awesome to see you here after meeting you in Saskatoon. I'm so glad you took the plunge to come out here. Thank you for being my Saskatoon connection, and always having a smile on your face. Lori: FINALLY!!!!!! It took 4 years to get you here, but I'm so glad I didn't have to drive down to DC to drag you here this year, as I surely would have done. Just to let you know, my friend, there will never be another year that I will let you get away with staying home on Labor Day weekend. Thank you for your determination in getting here. Marcel: It was great to meet you in person, (even if you do make trouble with the New Orleans shrimp!) It was great to hear your music in person and meet Soizic. Thank you for your music and your willingness to turn around (and around!) 8 times in the same block to get here! Jim: I'm so glad you came this year. Thank you for all your help in lugging shrimp and other assorted things, (and peeling them!) driving such a distance to get here, and of course, taking great pictures of the event. Thanks also for the new percussion addition. Hell: I *still* can NOT believe you came all this way just to hang with a bunch of crazy Joni-lovers! It was AWESOME to have you here, and I hope you keep attending every year this crazy Ashara person has the Fest! Thanks for your wonderful hugs, and that very cool NZ accent! Patrick: Four Jonifests together, and many more adventures in New York, CT, and who knows where else? Thanks for always staying up until I go to sleep, and getting up to have breakfast with me. And thanks for always having a shoulder to cry on when I hear a Joni song that moves me to tears. Bob Muller: You are a bundle of energy!! I never saw you stop once. Thank you for helping to set up the hall, and most of all, being the best Master of Ceremonies we could ever hope for!! You are an amazing, generous guy, even though you are SOOOO irreverent!! LOL!!!!! Kay: So great that you finally made Jonifest after threatening to come for so long! Thank you for the beautiful music. I'm so glad I finally got a chance to hear you. Jody: It was wonderful to finally meet Scott of Scott and Jody. I'm thrilled that you and Scott found a wonderful house near me. I have lots of great plans to put you to work next year! LOL!! Thank you for all your help with the t-shirts. Steve and Pearl: I'm so glad you made it this year! It was wonderful to see the pictures of your daughter's wedding. Next year, I hope you play for us. Thank you for sharing your photos and coming back "home." Bob Murphy: What would I ever do without your incredible irreverent sense of humor and your grill-hauling, cooler bearing, trash collecting truck? Thank you for making me smile and lugging all the heavy stuff. Ric: It was a great joy to see you here in the mist of your very difficult situation. I hope your Joni gave you some much needed renewal. Thanks for all the great giveaway goodies! Donna: So glad you got your Texas Tush here to Topsfield. I loved hearing your accent. Thank you for suggesting that I drive Saturday night. Stephanie: You realize that you will never live down the "cult" joke. Next year, we will NOT let you leave the Jonifest cult, no matter how much you kick and scream! Thanks for being such a good sport. Pauline: How great that you found us, and only had to drive "around the corner" to get here! It was great to meet you. Thanks for making the effort to join us. Marilyn: How I loved seeing you up on stage this year! Thank you for letting us know ahead of time how we could meet your needs. It was a great joy to watch you sing up there. Susan: It was great to meet you on Thursday before the Fest, and have a chance to connect. Thank you so much for all the coffee, chips, tea, and other yummy stuff! Leslie: I was so touched by you and Steve doing the Dawntreader for Maggie. Awesome! Thanks so much for the Map of the World, and the Martinelli's. Steve M: I'm so glad you made it again. Your mandolin playing adds so much to the overall music. Thanks so much for very cool mandolin lesson. You are a patient and gracious teacher. Wally: Your warm and generous personality is always a highlight for me. You are so respectful and helpful with everything that needs to be done, and I truly appreciate that. Thank you for bringing the very cool seed necklaces for us. Jimmy: Your antics all through the many weeks before Jonifest helped to keep me sane. You are such a warmhearted wonderful man. Thank you for being so gracious this year when you got kicked out of the big bed. ;-) Kakki: Another 4 year veteran! You are an awesome woman and it is so great to see you year after year. I hope those nasty mosquito reactions are calming down. Thank you for keeping the Martini tradition flowing. Willy the Shake: After hearing about your wild New York escapades, I never expected such a sweet, quiet and endearing man. What a gift to meet you. Thanks for making it here, and the truly beautiful card. Amy: My buddy and partner in crime: It was wonderful to not only have you return to Jonifest this year, but to fully take part, and even join the list! I've known you forever, and sung with you countless times, but I have never heard that side of you sing the way you sang at Jonifest. I am completely blown away. Thank you (and Gregg!) from the bottom of my heart for the absolutely *perfect* ending to Saturday. Chuckster: God, I am SOOOOOO glad you changed your mind and decided to attend after all. It was so great to have you sing with me. Thank you for "putting on a harmony." Russ: So great to finally meet you, and hear you play. Thank you so much for playing "Come Again Sweet Love" for me, and bringing back Madrigal memories. Nikki: SO cool to see you on stage this year!!!!!! YEEE HAAAAA!!!!!!!!! You go girl!!! Thank you for having the courage to step into the incredible woman you are. Rose: Wonderful photographer, and biggest JMDL cheerleader. Thank you for bringing the spirit of Nu Joisey to Topsfield! Steve: It was great to hear you play in person instead of on video. Thanks for livening the Jonifest this year with your short shorts and Ganja tunes!! ;-) Victor: Is there a song you don't know? A lyric you can't remember? Please let me know how you remember all that! Thank you for jumping in on flute for Eno Sa Grado. Yael: What a beautiful spirit you are. Thank you for driving all that way with Jim just to come here for the weekend. It was great to meet you. Jeff C: I love having the chance to see you again. Thank you for the beautiful book, and sharing of yourself. Chris: I'm so glad your car finally made it here. And even though you didn't set up the webcam early, it was a BLAST to see the videos you did manage to capture! Your bass playing was awesome. Thank you for being the techie guy, and I really look forward to seeing what's in store for next year. Catherine: I SO wish we could have spent more time together. I love your wit so much on the list, and really look forward to seeing you in Toronto. Thank you for the great lengths you went to to find Petco. :-) Kate: Your singing and guitar playing is so wonderful! I'm so glad it was easy to talk you and Jeff into coming. I enjoyed having you here so much. Thank you for the wonderful California avocados and Salsa. Yum! Jeff B: It was so delightful to have your harp playing, singing, and guitar playing this year. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that beautiful song about your daughter. It touched me very deeply and I can't wait for the CD to come out! Sue: You FINALLY gave up on those silly little kids that expect you to be fresh and ready for the first day of school. I'm so glad! Thank you for the touch of Michigan you gave to me. Alison: Your high enthusiasm and party-girl attitude gave me the strength to stay up with the big guys this year. I have not gotten only 8 hours of sleep in 3 days for a VERY, VERY long time! Thank you for sharing your energy with me and letting me walk you down the aisle. Les: Without you, none of this would even have happened. I can't believe how it has grown and blossomed. Thank you for your vision and your humble work behind the scenes. And last and most importantly, my undying gratitude and love to Sal, the man who is behind me 100%, my rock, my love. Thank you Sal for everything. All my love to all of you, with LOTS of hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:01:55 -0700 From: jan Subject: You know you are in a new millinium when.....(njc) > Subject: You know you are in a new millinium when..... > > 1. You just tried to enter your password on the microwave. > > 2. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of three. > > 3. You call your son's beeper to let him know it's time to eat. He emails > you back from his bedroom, "What's for dinner?" > > 4. Your daughter sells Girl Scout Cookies via her web site. > > 5. You chat several times a day with a stranger from South Africa, but > you haven't spoken with your next door neighbor yet this year. > > 6. You check the ingredients on a can of chicken noodle soup to see if it > contains Echinacea. > > 7. Your grandmother asks you to send her a JPEG file of your newborn so > she can create a screen saver. > > 8. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see if > anyone is home. > > 9. Every commercial on television has a website address at the bottom of > the screen. > > 10. You buy a computer and 6 months later it is out of date and now sells > for half the price you paid. > > 11. Leaving the house without your cell phone, which you didn't have the > first 20 or 30 years of your life, is cause for panic and turning around to > go get it. > > 12. Using real money, instead of credit or debit, to make a purchase > would be a hassle and take planning. > > 13. Cleaning up the dining room means getting the fast food bags out of > the back seat of your car. > > 14. Your reason for not staying in touch with family is that they do not > have e-mail addresses. > > 15. You consider second-day air delivery painfully slow. > > 16. Your dining room table is now your flat filing cabinet. > > 17. Your idea of being organized is multiple-colored Post-it notes. > > 18. You hear most of your jokes via e-mail instead of in person. > > 19. You get an extra phone line so you can get phone calls. > > 20. You disconnect from the Internet and get this awful feeling, as if > you just pulled the plug on a loved one. > > 21. You get up in morning and go online before getting your coffee. > > 22. You wake up at 2am to go to the bathroom and check your E-mail on > your way back to bed. > > 23.You start tilting your head sideways to smile. :) > > 24. You're reading this with complete understanding. > > 25. Even worse; you're going to forward it to someone else. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:40:49 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Lucy Webster Your attention please. This artist Lucy Webster is the real deal. If interested check out cdbaby.com. Her music weaves between Joni and Shawn Colvin, and a bit of Tracy Chapman. It is GOOD. I'm telling you she is for real. I would suggest her first cd "In My Opinion." You won't be dissappointed. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:02:59 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Loss Dear Mark: First let me apologize if I miss any of your words as I once again had a major computer crash. I have reloaded Netscape but I no longer have your sweet missive so please bear with me as I respond. Sorrow overcame when you told me...and I know we know what this means. And I am sooooo happy you have found new paths and treasures. At several points during the Fest I was afraid I would throw myself onto the floor and sob...unable to contain myself. Instead I went into this wee room off the main floor...and with the music playing, big tears rolled down my face and spilled onto the ground all around me. Often I feel that I have emptied the well of salty sorrow but it comes lurking back at the most unexpected times. Ninety percent of the time I am thinking, laughing, joking, playing...all of those things. I know many others have suffered loss but when I am in the middle of my memories I feel enveloped in sorrowful azure petals. I can not raise myself up by saying some people have it worse than I do when I am overcome with feelings as I was at the Fest. That comes later. I have sometimes asked myself why Sheila had to pass on and all I know is that this is the way things go sometimes. And it is that way for you too. A big smile has spread across my face because I know you have a special person in your life once again and I also know that being positive helps us maintain a healthy spirit and body. For myself, I do not believe I will be with another person. I am content with my family and friends and I feel that I had such a wonderful dazzling relationship for 17 years...something many people never have the joy of experiencing...and I feel so incredibly blessed. Like Joni..."I'm so hard to handle"...so that may also have a lot to do with it. LOL Thank you thank you thank you for your sweet words of wisdom. I have taken them to heart...and I know that I want to sit across from you, look into your face and tell you that life is always about living...and we are doing it. :) Let us be intentional about meeting...let us do that Mark. Love and Peace.......Sharon ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #388 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?