From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #383 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 6 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 383 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #378 [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Morgantown [Catherine McKay ] Re: 3 New Releases njc to appease that lot [Catherine McKay ] Re: Music in the line of fire [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Morgantown [jan ] just enough ["Norma Meatheringham" ] Subject: Bittersweet JoniFest (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] norma njc ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: Morgantown [Catherine McKay ] Re: pics? (Fest content), njc ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: Vick,Paz, and Ashara [Michael Paz ] Re: From sleep deprived, giggling jonifesters to infants and toddlers(njc) [Michael Paz ] JoniFest Thoughts from Steve Mixon [Leslie Mixon ] Graham Nash pic of Joni [Lindsay Moon ] Graham pic of Joni -- ooops! [Lindsay Moon ] Re: jonifest reply, NJC ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: jonifest reply, NJC [Yael Harlap ] Joan Baez - What A Gal! (NJC) [Leslie Mixon ] asharafest review NJC [Yael Harlap ] Re: Love starved [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: ["Mark or Travis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:06:49 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #378 In a message dated 9/4/01 7:41:24 PM, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: << Wish I coulda gone, but I'm saving my money for a trip back home (warwick, RI) in Octohbuh, when the leaves should be paking out. Hope to make J-fest next year. >> Since I live in Providence, Walt, I suppose this is where I should offer to host the October RI Jonifest. If anyone is interested in a petite Jonifest -- say, one-tenth the size of Ashara's -- let me know. Sorry I can't host a huge fest, but I don't have a suburban megahouse or Maggie or Sal or nearly as much devotion, energy and patience as Ashara! Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:31:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Morgantown - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > I believe the word for "morning" in German (and > possibly other languages) is > "morgen." > > > DAVID > LAHM It is - Guten Morgen means Good morning. Morgenstern means morning star; and so on... Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:35:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: 3 New Releases njc to appease that lot - --- Reuben3rd@aol.com wrote: > The new Bjork is wonderful...definitley her most > coheisive album to date. She has never sounded more > lovely than on these songs...the music is > perfection, it whirrs and plinks along like an alien > band, and it all comes together very nicely. Go buy > this record! It is a much happier record than her > others, and a warmth filters through that it very > nice. I had never heard Bjork (I had heard *of* her though) until people on the list started talking about her - now I love her - she is wild and crazy. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:36:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Jonifest Top Ten (NJC) - --- "Lori R. Fye" wrote: > >> 3. There being more Dunkin Donuts per square > mile > >> than bars in Wisconsin. > > > LOL - you got that right! I'm sure there had to > be > > one every block! Just how many donuts CAN anyone > > need? > > > You must've noticed all the COPS around, didn't > you??? ; ) > Yeah but, as usual, never when you need 'em (like, for finding directions.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:51:40 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Music in the line of fire I usually shy away from politics, especially with the Middle East, but my post is trying to bridge a gap which exists, that's all. I saw a very moving documentary on the Ovation channel the other night called, "Music In the Line of Fire." An English musician, a lute player, took his instrument to the Middle East and spoke to musicians on either side of the line. Palestinians, as well as Jews play a very similar instrument and with this in common, the Englishman allowed us to glimpse at the sadness which encompasses both peoples concerning their land. Both peoples have a love for their land such as I have never seen and from a musical standpoint, both had more in common than one would think. I was saddened by the fact that there was such separation of those who had such an equal love for the music. My thoughts were that if the two opposing sides could just come together from a musical standpoint, maybe it would be the beginning of peace. As I thought further, I realized too, that this could never happen. The songs that each sing stem from a love of a nation and of a people beyond what most of us Westerners could understand. But for a moment, I saw a brief connection between the two. The love of music flowed freely back and forth between the boundaries courtesy of the editing room...and then the show was over. Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:00:53 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: Morgantown At 05:31 PM 9/5/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: >It is - Guten Morgen means Good morning. Morgenstern >means morning star; and so on... Guten Morgen Fairchild. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:49:50 -0600 From: "Norma Meatheringham" Subject: just enough "We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another." -Jonathan Swift First rule of history: History doesn't repeat itself, historians merely repeat each other. Harrison's postulate: For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open. ~ Author Unknown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:39:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Bittersweet JoniFest (NJC) Paz, As much as I LOVED eating & peeling those shrimpies I would rather have YOU playing music & hanging out & not doing shrimp duty. You said, "There always seems to be so little time to be able to connect with everyone" I have been lamenting this too... Then you suggested, "Anyways, I do love the Plum Island retreat still on Sunday, but maybe just for a out to eat sort of thing as a group and then back to Ashara's for more music or maybe a house on the beach. I too loved the quiet jam in the living room on Sunday night late and the Ganja Line was a riot." This is a GREAT idea. I LOVE the idea of everyone sitting around at a big old table eating together or hanging out at the beach together with a picnic then going back to play music later. The music sharing was so special but I would also cherish a little time with everyone just sitting around over a meal...the few times I did get some of this was memorable.... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:59:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Jonifest/Greg Steve Dulson wrote "Thanks for all the great words on Jonifest. I would have loved to have been there...sigh...What a great surprise that Greg Cagno showed up!" We really missed you not being there Steve. Yes Gregg definately raised the bar for all of us though I must say everyone I heard was quite remarkable really. So if you need an excuse to attend, you might consider attending jonifest as a recruiting vehicle for your concert series as the performing level was quite professional...(non profit volunteer business write off!) ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:41:51 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: norma njc Norma, really enjoyed those, thanks, Mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:05:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Morgantown - --- jan wrote: > At 05:31 PM 9/5/01 -0400, Catherine McKay wrote: > >It is - Guten Morgen means Good morning. > Morgenstern > >means morning star; and so on... > > Guten Morgen Fairchild. > -jan AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaccccccckkkkk!!! Du bist ein silly person. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:04:28 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: pics? (Fest content), njc Yeah, I wanna echo this. I really enjoyed "Rockin' Jake", Michael's buddies from Nawlins. I didn't leave out of disrespect or disappointment. I was overstimulated after several short nights, too much excitement, and lots of travel. They are a tight band and knew how to keep the dance floor full. For me, it was too much of a good thing and I needed that candlelit den at Ashara's, with a bunch of half-concious JMDLers sprawled across couches. Yeah. Minimal stimuli was what I was seeking. Significantly, even *that* dissolved early. So, thanks to Michael for introducing us to Rockin' Jake. And like I said before, thanks to Kakki and Michael for opening up May's to their JMDL buds. You know I think you guys are the best. Lamadoo Bob Muller said, >>>>> We all convened over at Atty May's/Plum Island, and listened to some great music by Jeff, Kate, Victor, Michael, Gregg...BIG crowd there, Michael had a N.O. blues band come in, and they rocked the house, but it was too much crowd, too much smoke, too much noise for most of us, so we headed back to Ashara's and piled in a couple rooms with guitars, percussion, etc. and did some good ol' "campfire" singalongs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:11:21 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Middle East Continues, NJC In a message dated 05/09/01 09:33:08 GMT Daylight Time, olszer@xlsecurity.com writes: << Thumbs up for a terrific demonstration in geography Azeem. I would never have thought anybody would nitpick on such a semantic glitch. Actually the fact that there is such a "glitch" makes me believe the original letter was written by a cultured layman, not by a semantic expert.>> No thanks for the sneering sarcasm, Laurent, especially as it's diverting from a REALLY simple point, which is not a mere semantic glitch, as anyone can see. The claim on this list you posted is that Muslims pray with their backs to Jerusalem (like that proves anything anyway) - This claim is a load of nonsense. The geographical reference I put in was merely an illustration of the stupidity of the claim, and not an attempt to show off. I also do not claim to be a semantic expert, though if you think I was quibbling over semantics you are in any case mistaken. << I have a letter written by an American Arab journalist, which I will retype soon, which states that the Koran mentions Mecca hundreds of times and Medina countless times. But I'm no expert on the Koran myself. >> So, some guy writes a letter (or maybe just an editorial from a right-wing website) containing (amongst other things) lies about the Koran, and you feel fine about sending it to the list under the banner of authoritative comment? Anyone checking up the site whose URL I posted a few days ago will see a comprehensive and very detailed rebuttal of the "facts" in the list you posted originally. Is it "true"? I don't know. What I do know is that I wouldn't post it to the list to try to prove my point, at least not unless I had more first-hand knowledge. "..........half-truths and misconceptions are told about the jewish race........" << As everybody knows, Judaism is a religion, not a race. Neither Sartre nor Nietsche could define the jewish race, but I'm glad to see you had more success.>> Again, can you make a point without this kind of sneering sarcasm? Being Jewish is not just about religion, as you well know - it is also about culture, history and tradition. At least some of the Jewish people I've known have been happy to accept that there is a racial/ethnic dimension to being Jewish. My encyclopedia's entry for "Jew" reads as follows: "A follower of Judaism, the Jewish religion. The term is also used to refer to members or supposed members of the ethnic group, who may or may not practise the religion or identify with the cultural tradition." Of course, you have also diverted attention (again) from the very simple point I was making, which was this: the fact that lies are told about Jewish people does not make it OK for someone else to tell lies about Palestinians, or Arabs, or Muslims, or anyone else. I don't remember seeing your name on the list before, Laurent. The only other time I can remember someone suddenly appearing out of nowhere, without any introduction of themselves, and sending a number of highly political posts to the list, was when "J Galt" was at large some months back. Are any other listers getting a sense of deja vu? Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:41:25 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: Fire And Rain, njc, long Yah. Fire-n'-rain is highs-'n-lows. Thrills and depression. As with most metaphors, it works best when ya don't intellectualize it too much. I mean, when ya listen to a country song, ideally you don't fold your arms across your chest and pontificate, "Mister Hank Williams Sr. was particularly adept at expressing the angst of the Appalachian Community, working in the gritty coal mines that pitifully cut their lives short, and being left out of the American dream." Bullshit. Naw. Hank was singing about the rain in Momma's life. James was singing about the rain in HIS life. Let's recall the context: "I've seen fire and I've seen rain. I've seen sunny days, man, I thought they'd never end! I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend no, no, no, no, no, nooooo, now ba-a-bee. NAW!" Or something very close to that. :) ** I didn't get the Beatles in 64. But in '70? Man, in '70, I was 14. "Fire And Rain" was my gateway drug and I've been a junkie ever since. Sometimes a happy junkie, sometimes a very, very sad junkie. But always a music and lyric junkie. It's not _in_ my blood; it _is_ my blood. Now, you all know that I'm speaking metaphorically, right? Lamadoo ps Thanks jt. ppss I love writing for you guys. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:14:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniFest2001 videos (NJC) - --- Chris Marshall wrote: > I have the videos up on line from Monday (was it?) > where I had > the camera set up in the porch. > > They're all here:- > > http://www.secure-si.co.uk/jonifest2001/ > > Be warned: they're quite large and bandwidth > intensive. > I was able to download - it was the smallest file, the one with Bob bidding everyone good-bye. The quality was quite good, but it took about ten minutes to download. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:49:12 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Vick,Paz, and Ashara Sharon- Thanks so much for the clarification and the kind words. It's an honour to be in such wonderful and beautiful company. Thank you for all your help as well on the shrimp as well which in my first post I omitted thanking the rest of my shrimp crew. THANKS SHRIMPERS AND THE PEELERS BAND!!! Thanks HONEY. Paz on 9/5/01 8:56 AM, Sharon L. Buffington at sharonbuffington@mediaone.net wrote: > Dear Vick and Paz: > > I ws the one who identified the sofa as a lesbian sofa because it was > simply loaded with beautiful lesbians. There were a few lesbian > wannabes who participated in the mini lesbian fest..along with Pippin > who is a real example of what to be as an older lesbian...she is such a > slut for affection...and the lesbian cat...the lipstick lesbian (in > drag). Certain lesbians who shall go un-named but they know who they > are then began giggling and could not stop as very sentimental songs > were sung. They had to leave the room. And of course...Gregg is so > cute that some of us lesbians could switch. :) > > Paz...I always knew you were a lesbian...you sing like a > lesbian..well..certain lesbians. As Kerry said...some of us did not get > the k.d. lang or Melissa Etheridge gene. But you got it honey..you got > it. I was soooo glad I won the winning number to peel shrimp. And > Michael...thank you for all the work you did up front and behind the > scenes. > > Ashara ...you are a woman of quality and I am proud to know you. Thank > you for opening up your home and your heart to your old friends and your > new friends. And Mr. Sal is toooo wonderful...what a man he is. > > I continue to be steeped in memories...thank all of you for a wonderful > Fest. > > Peace......Sharon > > > > cvickery@danielrealty.com wrote: >> >> Hell wrote: >>> The improv. CSNY session in the TV room with Marcel, Paz and >> Victor had to be seen >(heard) to be believed - even though >> Marcel and Paz were sitting on the Lesbian Sofa at >the time..... >> >> What?? A lesbian sofa? Is this a seating area created >> especially *for* lesbians? Or > heart 'a pounding here!!> is this some new kinky >> plug-that-baby-in-and-watch-'er-go delight that Ashara has >> purchased just for our pleasure? And I thought there was to be >> no fraternization of that sort at the Fest.... >> Dang, I hate I missed it! >> >> Cindy >> >> P.S. - Ashara, please provide me with the style number and >> manufacturer of said sofa as soon as possible. >> >> P.P.S. - Lama, did you get photos?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:50:54 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: From sleep deprived, giggling jonifesters to infants and toddlers(njc) Chris- GOOD POINT!!! I still think you had the best bottom at JoniFest this year. Sorry Victor, but he's a newbie and he's a brit like Paul and Squire. Paz on 9/5/01 9:48 AM, Chris Marshall at chris@secure-si.co.uk wrote: > Victor wrote:- >> Subject: From sleep deprived, giggling jonifesters to infants and toddlers > > And the difference is...? :-) > > --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:06:02 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: From sleep deprived, giggling jonifesters to infants and toddlers(njc) > Chris- > GOOD POINT!!! I still think you had the best bottom at JoniFest this year. > Sorry Victor, but he's a newbie and he's a brit like Paul and Squire. > > Paz He gets my vote!!! Chris, I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to do that Lord of the Rings song again but maybe next year or some other place and time. Remember, I'm a singer and a writer first and foremost. I just play the 90 string bass for fun. Victor, who saw many striking similarities today between the little kiddies running around screaming, beating on drums, and woofing like dogs and the people gathered at Ashara's these past several days :~} Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:28:56 -0400 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: From sleep deprived, giggling jonifesters to infants and toddlers(njc) Paz:- > > Chris- > > GOOD POINT!!! I still think you had the best bottom at JoniFest this year. > > Sorry Victor, but he's a newbie and he's a brit like Paul and Squire. > > > > Paz Thanks Michael :) Victor:- > He gets my vote!!! Chris, I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to do that Lord > of the Rings song again but maybe next year or some other place and time. > Remember, I'm a singer and a writer first and foremost. I just play the 90 > string bass for fun. > > Victor, who saw many striking similarities today between the little kiddies > running around screaming, beating on drums, and woofing like dogs and the > people gathered at Ashara's these past several days :~} Victor, I'd just love to play, even record, that song with you sometime. It's a total gem. And hey, lets pick a few Rush and Tull tunes to nail before next year's fest... - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:38:46 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: NJC, open letter to the chief Hey Les, Did you eventually win the fight to keep the url www.jmdl.com ? What ever happened to that? Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:45:02 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: Love starved My old bud, Sherelle, wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:52:06 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Love starved Dear Bree: Actually, I have two. I listen to these on the Shadows and Light CD. They are, "Amelia" and "Hejira." And if they don't get you, Pat Metheny's guitar solo in-between the two songs will. Oops! There's more! Anything on Court and Spark, especially "Down to You," her music got me through many a rough time. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesssss. As I've said many times, many ways, Metheny's solo on the Shadows and Light LP (or CD) is my favorite solo of any kind, of all time. It even outshines Dave Gilmour's solo on "Comfortably Numb" and that says a lot. Thanks for the reminder. Lama ps- Sherelle, the newbies don't know that story about how you moved Joni so that you made her cry. Tell it. np: David Lahm's "More Jazz Takes On Joni Mitchell", a must-own and I must say that after listening to the car stereo for 20 hours over 2 days, it's a relief to be listening to the Mirages again. Sheeesh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:18:21 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: JoniFest Thoughts from Steve Mixon Hi, folks, I enjoyed the much-needed break immensely. Why can't we be surrounded by great musicians and adorable people like at Jonifest, all the time! I'd like to add my own favorites to the many fond remembrances. Music I heard: Anne Sandstrom playing Greg Brown's "Rooty-Toot-Toot for the Moon" on the back deck Russ' wicked honky-tonk, and Stephanie's lovely classical piano playing Steve Politka's aching rendition of "Two Grey Rooms" Anything played by Greg or Claudia My lovely wife Leslie singing "Way Over Yonder", with Paz on keyboards Church sets by Wally K, Willy the Shake and Kay special mention to Paz and Victor, for the "Thick as a Brick" excerpt at Atty's - cats are on the upgrade! >From my own playing: Bluegrass, Irish tunes and that Turkish belly-dance number, with Les and Claudia in Ashara's kitchen...playing with Kate, Jeff and Victor in the sun room..playing with Marcel, Ms. Mixon and the Jonifest Jugband at the church..and of course "The Weight" with the Joni wig and everybody else nonmusical moments: John van Tiel reaching down to give Nikki a hug, and lifting her about 2 ft off the ground Maggie's remembrances of hanging out with Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir in a lounge somewhere, complete with bad lounge act Victor informing me and Ms. Mixon that he'd bugged our conversation at the Tealuxe Cafe in Boston - that is so weird! Cool, though - Gotta hear it. Thanks for being yrselves, folks. Love Steve Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:24:01 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Graham Nash pic of Joni In scouting around for info on CSN playing in San Diego, I looked around Graham Nash's site and found this picture of Joni in his "Images" section. http://www.nashnet.com/index2.html Great reading all the accounts of the Joni Fest! Sounds so enchanting and other-worldly. A beautiful world, I might add ... my best to you all. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:25:31 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Graham pic of Joni -- ooops! Sorry, I misled you. The picture of Joni was in his "Friends" section of the site. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:38:54 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: jonifest reply, NJC Yael, the rookie, wrote, >>I will probably write a real jonifest message soon enough... >>but just a quick reply to Steve P: >>re: Don't Dream It's Over: >>Don't worry - we'll do it next year! :-) Ah yes, grasshopper, "next year". There is always "next year" for one so young. Consider though, that one should assume *not* a "next year". Though one may experience a "next year", it may not *contain* a JoniFest in New England. Treat it *not* as a toy, grasshopper. Each is separate, as a Faberge egg. Each is precious, unto itself. Each, a gift. Assume not a *next*, and you appreciate more, the *this*. Bowing deeply, humbled through experience, Lama ps, Even a Sensei has a Sansei. So tell me, Master Running Water, have I spoken wisely, o Wise One? np: David Lahm's "More Jazz Takes" as it shall, be ever more I'm sure. ppss. Zen Sensei Lama reminds: "Forget not, young grasshopper, thy "NJC" for there are those who are offended." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:56:55 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: Re: jonifest reply, NJC Lama the Zenful one poeticked: Assume not a *next*, and you appreciate more, the *this*. But I haaaaave to assume a next year... otherwise I'll just keep being saaaaaad that this jonifest is over! :-) Just wait til you see my longass e-mail coming - there are lots of nexts there. - -Y ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:27:54 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Joan Baez - What A Gal! (NJC) A clear voice for right action Dear Ann Landers: Never have I felt so moved as when I read the letter from "Former Classmate in Illinois." I, too, have avoided attending my high school reunions. And with good reason. It was 45 years ago, and I had just come to America from Europe. My English was not good, and the "in crowd" didnt think I had the right clothes or hairstyle. Everything about me was wrong. I had to endure their snickering, and I always ate alone at lunchtime. I once got up the nerve to invite six girls to my 16th birthday party. Only one girl came, and she left early. My parents never knew that I cried myself to sleep that night. In my junior year, something wonderful happened. Another girl saved me from despair. We became friends instantly, and she began to join me at lunch. She was also ignored by the "in crowd," but she didnt care. She marched to a different drummer. She had her own music. She came to my home one afternoon and brought her little sister to play with mine. We became great friends. She played her guitar and sang like an angel. Soon she invited me to join her as she visited USO clubs and sang for the soldiers. She was a big hit wherever she appeared. One night on the way home from a USO club, I bet her $10 she would become famous  and she did. Her name is Joan Baez.  Rosie Herz (now Rita Violette) of Sun City Dear Rosie: What a heartwarming story. I hope Joan Baez sees this column or that someone who knows her will bring it to her attention. We now know that in addition to her marvelous voice, Joan Baez is a beautiful person with a loving and generous heart. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:35:31 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: asharafest review NJC I don't know how long this e-mail will end up... hopefully short... but probably not. :-) [<--- that would be, not] I had a great, great time. I want to still be there. I have rarely - if ever - been a part of such a loving group of people. Let me amend that by saying I have groups of very close friends who mutually care about each other, but I felt that this group was unique in my experience in that it was so free of ego - people I met were remarkably giving and generous and rarely tied up in their own issues... Sure, there was a little of that - we *are* human after all (with the possible exception of a few living angels!) - - but at least for the weekend, it was all on the back burner. I learned so much from everyone - about giving generously (I am thinking particularly about Anne Anne Anne and also John V.T., Les I, Sharon and of course Ashara... as well as other people)... about looking out for each other... about taking a back seat to others (something I am not as good at - - anyone notice? :-))... about cooking salmon... and playing guitar (though Marcel someday I *will* have you show me a song to crack open new horizons - - I was sorry we didn't get to that)... and singing with an amp (I will find a way to Practice that for next year!)... And I think I was able to give some of those things to others, too. For which I am happy and grateful. Of course, I am totally thankful for the HUGS (and thanks, Steve P, for the virtual hug earlier - it was yummy). Here are, in no particular order, specific thanks and thoughts for people... Hell - I can't believe you came so far, and I'm so glad you did! I didn't get much of a chance to talk to you but I love that you are so bold and funny and upfront. And I appreciate the possum skins (I think - though horribly I think they were left in the hotel room, after all my careful planning! Ack! What do you suppose the cleaning staff will think about the rubber flask and those skins!?). Jimmy - your hugs are the greatest! I wish I had more time to talk to you but your presence was so strongly felt whenever you were in the room, and it was warm and funny and gracious. Anne - you are the best kind of living angel ever - so so generous and thoughtful and I really appreciated that - I hope you are enjoying the denim shirt and I can't wait to see you at Asharafest next year! Stephanie - I am sorry I didn't get a chance to say goodbye, Steph! I don't know where you were when I left! But that just means that there is no good-bye and that we'll connect again soon. I'm so glad you came - I loved doing our mocked-up versions of Tori and Joni on piano and voice - and especially loved how into your classical pieces you were when you played them! Next year we won't be so nervous about our performances, 'kay? and you'll have to tell me about the Tori show after you see it. Steve P - as I said before, too bad about Don't Dream, but we'll do it next year, full throttle! You are such a diva on the piano, I love it. And I think every so often we should (all) just send virtual hugs out to random (or, well, not-so-random, but different) people - they are so special even though they can't quite measure up to real touch. Claudia - I want you as a friend for real, Claud... when I get over admiring you for your quiet confidence, and that inside beauty that just shines through, and your singing which made me cry though nothing ever does. If we were hanging out I would be torn between wanting to hear you sing and wanting to talk and talk. John V.T. - it was just so great how much you had to give, John - not only the chocolate (which was great! and I'm still eating more, my gawd!) and the cheese (which I avoid but can appreciate for the sake of others!) and the salmon and the peanut sauce... and the pictures - especially the joy you had sharing them with everyone - but also your smile and your hugs and support and attentiveness to the welfare of everyone else. I notice you watching to make sure everything is ok - I am that way, too. Stay in touch. Jim the Lama - how can I thank you enough, not only for coming to freakin' Ann Arbor 4 hours out of your way to pick me up, but also for taking me on as a project ("Kakki, have you met Yael yet? etc). You are so thoughtful and concerned about others... And the pictures. Everyone should get a copy of Jim's picture CD - I have seen a few sneak previews and they are glowing! (not literally). Don't forget our car drive conversations! Kay - hotel buddy. I love your songs so you'd better get that CD out quick. It was great getting to know you - show yourself more on the list. Gregg - ditto! good to see your first post - keep it coming. I've been listening to your CD and I am so happy listening to it and thinking of you making your joyful noise... I appreciate your scolding me for putting down my guitar playing - I will remember that and remedy it. Next year you'll think I am a cocky little ho :-) I am wondering how you made that sort of sliding metallic overtone sound on Fearless Heart - do you know what I mean? Nikki - it was so great to meet you after talking online so many times. I'm sorry you weren't feeling so well - it was fun to sing along with you on the beach and yes Sheryl does need more heart, sometimes I get very absorbed in the sound over the feeling. You inspired me to pick up Leaving Las Vegas so I am practicing it now. Sharon - you are so warm and one of quiet deeds. I labeled that honey-bear "Sharon's bees" with permanent marker so everyone in my house knows it comes from your bees. It was really good to meet you and I love hearing you talk openly and matter-of-factly about gay stuff - very few in my life are quite so un-hung-up about their sexuality and I think it is such a great model for me. hugs to you. Gawd, this is getting awfully yearbook-y. Someone kick my ass if I start writing "have a great summer!" At least I can't put bubble dots on my "i"s on email. Aren't you glad? OK, keeping on... Les Irvin - I wish I had talked with you more, but I did enjoy the little talks we had about the Halloween industry :-) - you are another of quiet generosity and I am grateful to know you and of course grateful that you are the alpha and the omega of the list. Les from London - I got so much joy out of sitting in Ashara's dining room with you and Willy the Shake playing music and singing Joni songs - you are so unassuming but so magnificent in guitar playing and I felt so privileged and grateful that I could sit there and be treated as a musical equal with people who obviously had so much experience. I loved all the music last weekend (though I have to say I don't feel too bad to have missed reggae-Joni!) but sitting in that room was special because I did not for a minute feel dwarfed. Willy - same as above - I really loved talking to you - I felt so listened to... though the fest was so hectic and there was so little time to connect with everyone, I felt like even when we weren't talking about anything much you were fully present in the conversation - that is such a rare quality and so important (I know I don't always have that). Spending time with you was joyful. And next year please sing Sweet Bird again - it was so beautiful. Sue - it was great to catch up with you again! We should make opportunities for minigatherings in MI - there are a bunch of us around here. I hope you're having fun with the kids. Kerry - Harold and Maude forever. Don't forget to check out State & Main as well as Rushmore. I love those movies. And their soundtracks. Rushmore even has a Cat S song on it - I swear it MUST be a tribute to Harold and Maude. You are so easy to talk to. Rose - I'm so glad to have met you after all our talking! Though we didn't get too much chance to talk... I hope things are going ok. I apologize for waving your smoke away - I know that is annoying! But I don't mind having to do it, so don't take it personally, 'kay? I know I'll see you often in the virtual world. Michael - I felt automatic kinship with you. Somehow I knew I just wanted to hang out with you lots of time... even though there was no way to do it with all the people and excitement, I was happy to have some time to hang out during shrimping and shrimp souping. It was a very shrimpy weekend and goddammit, my backpack still smells of shrimp, so I have jonifest with me still. I know we will stay in touch. I loved hearing you play, and singing Amelia with you though I guess I had a different version going in my own head, timing-wise! Sometime maybe we can play human jukebox (you musical genius, you), perhaps when I am in N.O. in April! I can't wait - not for the conference, but to get to hang with you. hugs, my friend. Susan Guzzi - we barely talked, but I appreciated your warmth and support - I could feel that coming from you as you watched everyone perform Saturday and that was a comfort as I was up there on that quavering stage. Oh, I guess I was the one quavering. Marcel - we've definitely had our share of political bickering on the list... so I was like, gawd, how can I like this man so much?! :-) But I did. I really enjoyed talking to you, and loved hearing you play and sing. I hope that your wife ended up enjoying herself more than she expected... And speaking of that... it was great to see Jeff B enjoying jonifest. I don't think I even exchanged more than a word with Jeff, but he epitomized cool. That was glorious in itself... and once the music started, wow. Kate - - the same to you, as far as music goes - I loved hearing you play. I also really liked talking to you though it was in such brief snippets. I hope when I go to Cali next I have more chance to talk with you and Jeff. Russ - your piano playing was awesome! I wish I could have heard your Judgment of the Moon and Stars but I suppose it is good to have things hanging for the future. Jeff - speaking of things for the future - we will do People's Parties sometime, because your playing is so great, it has to be heard by all. And because I love singing it with you. I really enjoyed our conversations on Aimee Mann and music and playing guitar... and the walk on the beach... start singing. :-) Victor - you are awesome, Schmendrick! Your songs have the best progressions in them - I love that unexpected. Talking to you was special - I appreciate that you are so encouraging and kind. Catherine - so little time, but I'm so glad I met you because I always love your posts and you are as sweet and funny as they are. I wish to have heard you play guitar. Hey, not to put myself down or anything (note that, Gregg?) but I'm sure you were more experienced on the instrument than I was and that didn't stop me from guitar hogging! And no one seemed to mind! How wonderful was that... Anyhow sorry that you had to leave so soon but we will meet again. Mags'n'Brei - you are together because I always saw you together! The two of you are so sweet, and it was wonderful to put faces to the words I have exchanged with such frequency. I can't wait to see you both again. Chris - I totally loved our drive! Hooray that we got lost, otherwise we would never have gotten such giggles over "no parking" signs. (the local ordinance board: "I know what we should do!"). I know that if we lived in proximity we *would* keep hanging out - I had too much fun not to. Your bass playing was divine - and it was such a rush for me to play with other people doing lots of instruments - bass is so powerful. Yum. Steve Mixon - speaking of people game for playing... your mandolin playing was so cool! I can't BELIEVE that I was leading a frickin' song on vg8 with you highlighting on mandolin! I wish I could do you justice (and one day I will!); it was awesome, and tremendous fun. You were so game for everything - - it was great. Leslie Mixon - friend-with-my-hair (though darker and less purple)... i love to hear you sing. and we didn't talk much but I really appreciated being so welcomed into songs with you... Donna - wild woman. good gawd! I can't believe one person can bring so much fun into a room! how is that possible? Sorry to have driven you on a wild goose chase - those hotels were feckin' impossible to find. I can totally imagine you as the protagonist's voice in "Carey" - all that wild dancing and playing. Next year you must perform! Amy - your singing brought the room to silence. some people seem to have that ability - it is so amazing. I was very glad to meet you and I hope next time I get a chance to really talk to you beyond "that sounded great" and "do you know where the mop is?" :-) Bob Murphy - I will definitely let you know when I am in Providence next, whenever that is... ahh... I miss Providence... though not as much as I miss jonifest! It was good to get to meet you and next time we'll talk more, I hope. Bob the covers man - Bob, you are one energetic dude. Not to mention supportive and kind and exuberant. I'm so glad to have been graced by your warmth. Patrick, Jody, Lori, Steven from Vancouver, Pearl and Steve - I know there is so much I could say about each of you... I am running out of steam here tonight... but I will not forget you or your support and I do have wonderful and warm memories of each of you. Alison - Alison, you are so spunky. i really enjoyed hanging with you in the crowd on the porch... Wally - Bjork! you are unique, birthday fairy. I still am having a hard time putting my image of you as the birthday fairy with my new and real image of you! Somehow it is hard for me to picture a birthday fairy with a hefty black beard. :-) It was great fun to be in the same room as you, especially when you were singing so exuberantly. Kakki - I can't wait to see you the next time I am in LA. We barely had a chance to connect but I suspect it will be so much fun to have some of your time and conversation! I enjoyed the little moments that there were. Maggie the culinary goddess - you were so amazing getting it all together and staying so cheerful and smiling and peaceful! I want to be just like you! :) of course Ashara and Sal - you are wonderful!!! thank you for starting this, for opening up your house to all these great weirdos (I include myself here). It was awesome awesome awesome. And besides that, you are great, and have such a great sense of humor... and tolerance (for the weirdos again). I can't wait to encounter you again. If I forgot anyone, I am so sorry. It isn't because I didn't care but because there were so many wonderful, mind-blowing people... And I suppose I could go on and on about amazing special moments but there were so many. All I can say is: I could sing all day every day. Especially with you. People I had special moments with know what they are and who they are and I valued those about all else. lovelovelovelovelove, Yael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 01:58:44 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Love starved Lamadoo! You are in so much horsepuckey! If I remember correctly, it was a joint effort that we "shared." Joni had a friend, unbeknownst to us, that was reading the JMDL on her behalf. Joni, at the time, was very Internet shy. She wanted nothing to do with computers. Kilauren had just found Joni, her mother, and it was discovered that Wally, the originator of the Joni Mitchell site, (now deceased) in conjunction with the JMDL site, assisted Kilauren in finding her mother. It was a very joyful time for all of us, a dream come true, so to speak. Also, Joni had not toured for many years and did not seem inclined to do so. We used to talk about her ever touring again as a fleeting dream that we could barely hope for. It was a theme that kept us close and together as a group. We dreamed together about her playing live. Somehow, that made it real for us. It made the possibility a little "closer to earth." Back then, that possibility was in the stratosphere! Anyway, our hearts were so full of longing and love for Joni and her music. Writing to the JMDL was like writing letters to the recipient of unrequited love. We hoped against hope that we would somehow be heard. The news of Kilauren was like new life to us. We felt as if she were our child as well. So one night, Lamadoo drafted a letter to Kilauren and sent it to the group in hopes that she would see it. We knew that Kilauren had been surfing our site. I was so touched by his effort that I asked him if I could send a letter too. All I can remember at this point is trying to communicate to her how deeply her mother's music affected me as well as the other JMDL list members, and how honest she has always been with her music. We tried to show Kilauren what a special mother she had. Joni's friend found the letters, printed them off, and showed them to Joni. They touched her deeply because she had just found her daughter and it was a very emotional time for her. Her friend sent word through Les that Joni appreciated our feelings towards her and Kilauren. It was Lamadoo's (do we ever use your first name anymore?) tug of the heart strings to start the letters to Kilauren. I was so touched by his gesture, that I wanted to pour out my heart as well. We had no idea that someone close to Joni was reading them as well. There were a lot of wonderful and kind words spoken at that time by all the members of the JMDL that I am sure Joni was able to look at as well. Back then, because she did not tour, that was the closest we could get to her. Now, so many of our JMDL'ers have met her, talked to her and gotten the chance to see her perform live. I have not had that opportunity, but I am not sad about it. They say that everything happens for a reason. My moment of beauty came through communication with her friend. If I never see her play live, this will be enough for me. To know that I touched her heart the way she touches mine with her music...it is the greatest gift I could ever receive. My memory is a little vague Lamaman, so fill in the blank spots please! Love, Sherelle PS... Pat Metheny's solo on Shadows and Light-Amelia makes your heart ache and your toes curl it is so good! In a message dated 09/05/2001 8:46:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: > Yesssss. As I've said many times, many ways, Metheny's solo on the Shadows > and Light LP (or CD) is my favorite solo of any kind, of all time. It even > outshines Dave Gilmour's solo on "Comfortably Numb" and that says a lot. > > Thanks for the reminder. > > Lama > > ps- Sherelle, the newbies don't know that story about how you moved Joni so > that you made her cry. Tell it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:43:33 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/virtual.card.hoax.html Another hoax. Dolphie please check these things before you send them all over creation. Mark E's partner Travis in Shoreline Washington - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolphie Bush" To: "joni" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 13:44 Subject: Fw: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Du Shane" > To: "Dolphie Bush" ; "lee" ; > "Don McAnally" > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:58 PM > > > > This is a real virus alert. A friend of mine who is > > the Technology Coordinator for the Burkburnett ISD and > > who works with Region IX sent a message regarding two > > very very bad viruses that are out and spreading. Do > > NOT OPEN any message whose subject is A VIRTUAL CARD > > FOR YOU or something about VIRTUAL FLOWERS for you. > > If you open them, the computer will lock up. When you > > hot-boot (Ctrl, Alt, Delete) it destroys sectors in > > the hard-drive and sends the virus on to anyone in > > your e-mail address book. Please be careful. > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #383 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?