From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #375 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 1 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 375 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: All my Bags Are Packed (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Tori Amos [Richard Goldman ] Re: Tori Amos NJC ["Rob Ettridge" ] Re: Tori and Joan NJC [AzeemAK@aol.com] The Reoccuring Dream [pyramus@lineone.net] The Reoccuring Nightmare [pyramus@lineone.net] It's a Jonifest morning [AsharaJM@aol.com] re:Joni Proust [pyramus@lineone.net] Re: Tori Amos NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] RE: Love and Affection..NJC ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: It's a Jonifest morning [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Sandra B talks Joni [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joan Armatrading NJC [Alison E ] Re: njc: Colin's remarks to Sharon, and the meaning of str8??? [BigWaltin] Joni appearance chronology [Jim ] Re: Joni appearance chronology [Jerry Notaro ] RE: (sjc)Good Times to all at JoniFest, some musings on Labor Day & Healing ["patricia van nunen" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:16:19 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: All my Bags Are Packed (NJC) Me too, except I've already broken one martini glass and just melted another! LOL Still 4 good ones left and carefully wrapped for the trip ;-) See you then! Kakki > all my bags are packed I am ready to go... > Meet ya'll in Topsfield for cocktails around 5ish. > Shrimps are resting peacefully preparing for the trip. > Safe trip to all. > > Love > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:17:55 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Tori Amos How exciting! The 'kick off' of her tour...sort of... The new album hits the stores September 18 in the States, anyway. It'll be another month before she begins the US part of the tour. She'll be here in California in November, and ... with one of my personal faves, Rufus Wainwright, opening for her: I'm so happy! I'm going up to Portland, Oregon this weekend to see him, in concert. Never having seen him perform live, I'm elated. And again, in November here in Oakland at the fabulous Art Deco Paramount Theater, with Tori. That will be one great show, I have no doubt. Tipsy too in San Francisco, Richard N.P. - Rufus Wainwright "danny boy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 04:10:59 -0500 From: "Rob Ettridge" Subject: Re: Tori Amos NJC Tori in church certainly was strange. After a couple of songs she looked around and said something like: 'This is the real thing, ain't it? This is the real deal.' Then, looking at the pulpit, 'A lot of things have been said up there, by a lot of men. Some of them were good men. Some of them are our dads... Some of them are our grandmothers.' This is referring to her dad whose a preacher and her grandmother who acted like she was one. 'Do you know, when I was five my grandmother said to me was "Myra Ellen, listen, you should give your body to your husband, your soul to God, and all your love to Jesus" So I asked, "Hey grannie! What's left?"' Another classic Tori anecdote. The new album is called 'Strange Little Girls' and if you call it a covers album, she'll flip. Apparently it's a reinterpretations album. She takes songs written by men - often about women - and sings them from a woman's perspective. It's obviously quite different from a normal Tori album, but still very good. There are quite a few accessible tracks such as 'Enjoy the Silence', 'Rattlesnakes', 'Tori' and 'Time' which have choruses and hook-lines where as they have been fairly rare on recent Tori albums. 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' and 'Heart of Gold' are 'interpreted' beyond recognition, and '97 Bonnie and Clyde' (originally by Eminem) is as chilling as Me and a Gun. I was lucky enough to get the album a while back as a friend of mine is on her team. And yes, that does mean he's at Warner, so he is keeping an ear out for 'A Case of Joni' but as yet, no word. Rob > Tori Amos in a church! that is awesome. How apropos.... I bet there was >a cool vibe. What is the name of her new alubm? Is it a covers album, i am >supposing? "Time" is such a great song.. a TOM waits CHESTNUT>... I am >tipsy as well, but 6 hours behind you.. > Much lOVe >BLIAR >>From DELAWARE >TRANSPLANTED TO NYC > _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:02:18 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori and Joan NJC In a message dated 31/08/01 10:14:25 GMT Daylight Time, blueboy@somethingorother.com writes: << I was lucky enough to get the album a while back as a friend of mine is on her team. And yes, that does mean he's at Warner, so he is keeping an ear out for 'A Case of Joni' but as yet, no word. >> You have my undiluted envy, Rob! Not very pious, I know... Tori is criminally underrated, and having heard her wonderful rendition of Smells Like Teen Spirit years ago I can't wait for this album. And talk of Joan Armatrading has made me dig out the LP of her third, untitled and unimprovable album. Anyone who hasn't heard of her and fancies checking her out (especially outside the UK, where she was quite well known), my advice is to go straight for this record, ignoring dip-your-toes-in-the-water compilations. This album will be a beautiful revelation, and will also make newbies say "ah, so this is why people were mentioning Joan when Tracy Chapman's first album appeared." Have a fab time at the bun fight, everybody! Azeem in London NP: the glorious close of "Love & Affection" and now the even more glorious intro to "Save Me" - such a unique voice. God, it's like rediscovering an old lover! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:46:16 +0100 From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: The Reoccuring Dream Bob wrote<< Here's a cool little website I stumbled on that breaks down and separates Joni's lyrics with the inserted 'samples' that are the counter to her words: http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~leblancj/my_mojo/philosophy/dreamer.html>> Thanks for that Bob. T.R.D. gets a bit of stick on here as being some peoples least favourite, but I love it. Technically I think it is one of her best. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:51:24 +0100 From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: The Reoccuring Nightmare I was going to respond to the Middle East thread but I think Colin and others have expressed how I feel about the situation more than adequately. Instead I have sampled a Joni song. Hope it connects. The Reoccurring Nightmare by pyramus Based on a poem by Joni Mitchell This is the reoccurring dream born in the dreary gap between what they have now, and what they wish they could have. "More fighting and less talking!" Out of the hatred in their eyes... "Look!" ..violent hateful people rise... "Shocking!" ..gleaming us down from t.v. screens and pages. "Oooh!" "Violence!" "Before your very eyes!" Isn't it true, isn't it true? "Good question." "I know." "Who cares?" Look here!" ...they tell you if we kill here, if we kill there. "Violence will free us!" (whispered:) If we had that piece of land, mmm, wouldn't it be fabulous? If you bomb that house,car, school or bar your heroes will look like movie stars! "Order your freedom!" "Call Now!" "Just the cost of a childs life" Your discontent is their delight. They offer relief for the purchase price. Hate in a bottle, love is cast aside. "Is *that* your new life?" Isn't it true, isn't it true? "See?" they try to sell you. If you bomb here, if you shoot there... "We want this land at ANY cost!" (whispered:) If we have this place of worship well all be delivered.  If you bomb that house,car, school or bar your heroes will look like movie stars! "The Middle Easts greatest legends!" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "We DO want peace!" Dream on. There gonna love me if I start a new Peace Process! "Others will notice!" "Heroic!" "Who cares?" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "The latest arms and weapons!" Dream on, dream on, dream on. "The freedom you've been fighting for! " "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "We are the Chosen ones. Were Sooooo special!" Dream on. We will have happiness in heaven. "The place were all dying for." "Who cares?" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "I know that violence is..." Sexy!" Dream on, dreamer. "What could go wrong?" Dream on. "Who cares?" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "I'm afraid we can't win until were all dead..." Dreamer... Life would be easy if I had fastrack to heaven . "Pyhrric victory for all of us!" "Who cares?" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "There are lots of strings." Dream on... We can solve anything with violence. "Naturally!" Violence! "It's a picture of how to get what you want out of life." "More power!" "Recognize this?" Dreamer, "I love the power!" Hmmmm... Hmmmm... Dreamer. "Isn't there some other way?" "Who cares? Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:24:28 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: It's a Jonifest morning It's early morning in Topsfield, and all is quiet which I know will not last very long. In a few short hours the planes, cars, buses, and trains will be arriving loaded with excited Jonifesters. We will try to keep you up to date with words, pictures and even a LIVE webcab, if all goes well! Les has already set up a link from the main JMDL site to see pictures throughout the Fest. Check often as they will be updated as much as possible throughout the weekend. Hopefully, we will have a link from there as well for the live webcam. I wish ALL of you were here to join us! Sending many hugs this early Jonifest morning, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:34:32 +0100 From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: re:Joni Proust Preet wrote <> Indeed I do. I'm often to be found emptying out the trunk for Marlena or receiving a little bit of instant bliss from Yvette. :0 I think the reason I got into Joni initially was because I could easily put myself in her place or that of her characters. She speaks of her own experience but she also manages to put into words other people's experiences and feelings..or at least people feel that they can relate to them. She connects with many of us through her words whilst others just admire the tunes, which is also fine. I love Joni most when she tells a story, like 'Yvette' or 'Edith'. I've recently started making my own little 'Joni videos'using Windows Media Player. Using the soundtrack of a Joni song I can run a little slideshow of pictures or moving images to enhance the viewing experience. For instance I have T.I. with a slideshow of my favourite Van Gogh paintings and Yvette with photos taken in Paris. It just adds a little spice and you can add your own interpretation to the song through images. As for Proust..well there was the original 'Sire of Sorrow'. Take care Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:49:49 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Tori Amos NJC Sounds like another bargain bin cd in a year or two...hahaha.. NO, just kidding..well that definitely sounds intriguing...well all covers are interpretations i guesss.. some not that interpretive...but a cover is a cover. I guess she is trying to show more artistic integrity by not announcing it as a covers album. But, it sho sounds cool.... Bliggity blair _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:53:58 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: RE: Love and Affection..NJC yes, I must admit, this album is T-riffic.. Love and Affection always sends my heart-a-reelin'. You know when that Tracy Chapman song "give me one reason" came out 5 or 6 years ago and I first saw the video, I almost thought that it was Joan, (eventhough I wasnt sure what Joan looked like at the time).. I'll have to check some of her music out, now that I am in the city. But, yes, that epoymously-titled album is a winner. Blair _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:57:58 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: It's a Jonifest morning Good luck Oh Queen of the Fest. We are all there in spirit and look forward to Words and Music. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:13:32 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Sandra B talks Joni Kakki wrote: > Late last night after I got offline I checked my voice mail and had received > the following midnight message from my hipper than moi 80 year old mother: > "Hey, I forgot to tell you - Sandra Bernhard has a fabulous new show on A&E > and I've been watching it every night - she keeps talking about Joni and > said she's going to be on the show - but I think she also said something > like it's hard to schedule her because she's booked up - but it looks like > she IS going to have her on" Then "click" Heehee ;-) Kakki A real smart lady! She has finally accepted your obsession and used it to get you to call her! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Joan Armatrading NJC - --- Rob Ettridge wrote: > > It's late, I'm drunk, so I think another rambling > email is in order... friends dont' let friends drunk post. i'm cuttin' you off. give me the mouse. GIVE ME THE MOUSE! ae in nyc heading north in 4 hours! np: reggae of some sort Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:38:23 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: njc: Colin's remarks to Sharon, and the meaning of str8??? In a message dated 8/30/01 4:35:09 PM, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: << me: multisexual? me? I'd be happy for monosex. right now it's nonosex. >> Isn't nonosex just one up from octosex? Do you mean nanosex? That would explain your implosive effect. :-) Still laughing, fondly, walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:02:12 -0700 From: Jim Subject: Joni appearance chronology Hi All, I've just launched "version 1" of an appearance chronology on JoniMitchell.com that covers most of the public appearances of her career -- massive thanks to Simon for all his help. There's a lot of information on this page, so it takes a while to load. Mea culpas for that. The chronology's great fun for browsing; I also wanted to do what I could to prevent any fistfights from breaking out over Joni appearance history at Asharafest! ;-) I wanna go to Asharafest too, sob. If you'd like to take a look at the chronology, the link is on the Appearances page (formerly "Tour Info"), located at . Happy browsing! jj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:12:16 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni appearance chronology Cross-referenced, no less. What a monumental research achievement. Congratulations to you and Simon. I hope Joni is aware of this. Jerry np: Parade - Original Cast Recording (the best new musical in years) Jim wrote: > Hi All, > > I've just launched "version 1" of an appearance chronology on > JoniMitchell.com that covers most of the public appearances of her career -- > massive thanks to Simon for all his help. There's a lot of information on > this page, so it takes a while to load. Mea culpas for that. > > The chronology's great fun for browsing; I also wanted to do what I could to > prevent any fistfights from breaking out over Joni appearance history at > Asharafest! ;-) > > I wanna go to Asharafest too, sob. > > If you'd like to take a look at the chronology, the link is on the > Appearances page (formerly "Tour Info"), located at > . Happy browsing! > > jj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:53:35 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Joni appearance chronology I am DROOLING after seeing all of these performances I've never heard about! A million thanks to you and Simon for putting all of that together. I'm sure it will be a weekly page I'll be visiting. Have fun at AsharaFest, everyone... Mark NP-Garcia/Grisman, Russian Lullaby At 12:02 PM -0700 8/31/01, Jim wrote: >Hi All, > >I've just launched "version 1" of an appearance chronology on >JoniMitchell.com that covers most of the public appearances of her career -- >massive thanks to Simon for all his help. There's a lot of information on >this page, so it takes a while to load. Mea culpas for that. > >The chronology's great fun for browsing; I also wanted to do what I could to >prevent any fistfights from breaking out over Joni appearance history at >Asharafest! ;-) > >I wanna go to Asharafest too, sob. > >If you'd like to take a look at the chronology, the link is on the >Appearances page (formerly "Tour Info"), located at >. Happy browsing! > >jj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:20:28 +0200 From: "patricia van nunen" Subject: RE: (sjc)Good Times to all at JoniFest, some musings on Labor Day & Healing Dear Walt, Your "Labor Day"-manifesto inspires me more than you'll ever know. I personally know how hard life can treat us. It takes us by surprise. Sex kills. Is justice "just ice". The song that came first into my head reading your story is "Autumn Leaves" brought by Eva Cassidy. To me it says it all. Do you know her CD "Songbird"? I've discovered it about 6 months ago and like Joni, she gives me hope, music is indeed healing. Through the music of Joni I have to confront myself with the daily struggle, with the hope and despair,with life itself..Peace to you. Patricia. - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]Namens BigWaltinSF@aol.comww Verzonden: donderdag 30 augustus 2001 19:24 Aan: joni@smoe.org Onderwerp: (sjc)Good Times to all at JoniFest, some musings on Labor Day & Healing Hello, all, Didn't know of the existence of the Joni Fest until about a week ago, when I joined this list. Already feel I'm getting to know some of you, and I wish I could be there. Maybe next year... Yesterday was my partner, Robert's, birthday, so the week has been busy. But also Labor Day is coming up, a day which has special meaning for me. In early March, 1982, I was very sick; I was stammeringly told by my health care provider that my specific symptoms seemed to imply that I had what was beginning to be called the "gay plague" or GRID, among other things. I asked him what the prognosis was; he hesitated and hedged, but finally said that if the disease progressed as it usually seemed to be doing at that time, I had maybe six months. I walked home in a daze. Once there, I flipped through a calendar, and six months from that day happened to be Labor Day, 1982. (I no longer remember the exact date -- the 3rd, the 4th? -- maybe one of you with an appropriate computer program, or a lot of calendars can tell me, not that it matter much anymore). Needless to say, I wasn't dead by that Labor Day, although I was still pretty sick. Nineteen more Labor Days later, and I'm still here. I've been pretty sick some of the time, near death once, and not that bad a lot of the time, including now. The link to Joni is, of course, soothing and healing. There are others who calm, soothe and cheer me up -- Cocteau twins, Everything But The Girl, k.d. lang, certain songs by many other artists -- but Joni... well you guys know. For soothing/healing, I especially like most of DJRD and NRH, but any and all or her albums give me strength. To all of you -- have a wonderful, fun, laughing, soothing JoniFest -- and many Labor Days to come! Siquomb, "Big" Walt Breen in S.F. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 04:03:07 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: Happy Jonifest 2001! I'm just returned from a short holiday, and wanted to wish everyone a safe journey to and from Massachusetts, and to tell you how jealous I am of you all who are able to be there. Perhaps next year. Love to Ashara and to all the listers who will collaborate to make this fest one to remember. As I spend more time with this list, I'm better able to associate some of the talented antics that will be reported. I can't wait. With love, CC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #375 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?