From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #357 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 20 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 357 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: it IS kakki's birthday ["shane mattison" ] Today in Joni History: August 20 [les@jmdl.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #356 [PMcfad@aol.com] Re: Cultural highpoint njc [colin ] Re: Impromptu Joni Cover [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Scoobie Newbie Doo [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joni and don henley, back-up singers to JT -video [JRMCo1@aol.com] This is a joke, right? [Jennymac48@aol.com] Re: This is a joke, right? ["J. R. Mills" ] NJC YesFest [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Collaboration NJC [w evans ] njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #254 ["Timothy Spong" ] P.F. Sloan (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] re: Tim Curry cover "CBSASF" ["c Karma" ] Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Paz' Blues [MDESTE1@aol.com] Radio VLJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Paz' Blues [Steve Polifka ] Re: This is a joke, right? [colin ] Re: njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) [colin ] Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Mike Hicks" ] RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Donna J. Binkley" ] Re: Covers and, uh, covers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Covers and, uh, covers - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long [Michael Paz ] RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted [Merk54@aol.com] Re: This is a joke, right? [Michael Paz ] Re: NJC YesFest [Michael Paz ] Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long [Michael Paz ] Re: njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Radio VLJC [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:51:31 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Fw: it IS kakki's birthday - ----- Original Message ----- From: shane mattison To: Kakki Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:50 AM Subject: it IS kakki's birthday it really is kakki's birdday! not my kitty, kakki in LA...a leo tho' nonetheless, you're 'gonna cut duke' kakki...habbe birdday! about leokakkis: "The fact that these folks are also creative makes their endeavors fun for them and everyone else. It's quite common to see a Leo on stage or in Hollywood, since these folks never shy away from the limelight. They are also supremely talented and have a flair for the dramatic. Warmth and enthusiasm seems to seep from every Leo pore, making these folks a pleasure to be around. They do love pleasure!" hmmmm...sound like kakki anyone? shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:44:50 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: August 20 On August 20 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs the first of two nights at Temple University in Ambler, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:15:04 EDT From: PMcfad@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #356 the last time is saw yes was in cleveland around '88 or '89. anyway, all i'll ever remember about that show was christopher squier's bass. so loud and crunchy and captivating. i could feel my chest vibrating for two days afterwards. seriously, not exaggerating. pat np. train whistle in the distance In a message dated 8/20/2001 3:04:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > It was the > first time in Yes concert history that Chris Squire's bass didin't paralyze > me at some point in the show. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:20:50 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Cultural highpoint njc kerry wrote: > Colin wrote: > > >On tv tonight a woman palyed God Save The Queen on a flute. > >However, she was naked from the waist down and the flute was inserted in > >her vagina.(and no, this was not a US import show) > > This baffles me........how does she get air to come out? I don't know but she took some deep breaths before she played. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:27:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Impromptu Joni Cover <> You didn't name a name Blair, but I'm sure you're talking about a Jazz guitarist by the name of Bruce Anthony. In fact, I have his studio recordings of "The Jungle Line", "Dry Cleaner" & "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat". And I owe a BIG BIG thanks to JMDL'er Tim Spong who had this music & shared it with me. These songs were only available on demo tapes that Anthony made to promote himself. Wait 'til you hear his jazz guitar and vocal take on Jungle Line...phenomenal!! This will all be on Volume 24, already in the can and set for a December release. Bob NP: TMBG, "The Guitar" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:46:36 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Scoobie Newbie Doo <> I definitely know what you mean, Denknee!! Thanks for the great introductory post and welcome to the finest musical discussion list on the globe (and one of the busiest!) <> Correct, sir, and I appreciate the info! <> I started this project back in December '99, figuring I would be able to collect a ***couple*** CD's worth of covers of Joni songs. Once I started digging about...HOLY SHIT! I'm now working on Volume 25, CD #28! Les was kind enough to give me room at JMDL.com to detail the project, and you can check it out at: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/index.cfm ALL volumes are available, and I'll be glad to accomodate your wishes to get copies. Lemme know. And, when you pitch in and send me something from my "wish list", you get a free copy of the volume! Life is great! <> On Hejira, look at that arm segment with the bracelet. It never crossed my mind that this resembled a penis until I signed on with this warped group! :~D Thanks again for the intro...looking forward to hearing more from you, pal! Bob NP: TMBG, "Birdhouse In Your Soul" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:55:13 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: joni and don henley, back-up singers to JT -video In a message dated 8/19/2001 9:45:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cactussong@home.com writes: Thanks for posting this, shane. I've always liked this Taylor tune for its harmonies and mood, but I didn't know it was Joni and Don on backgrounds, nor had I seen the vid. Sweet! Cool to see Joni dancing a bit, too. - -Julius > well, i'm getting more on this don henley joni connection...they look cute > together, and sound great too as backup singers to james taylor in the > following video (real media) of james taylor, only one: > http://www.james-taylor.com/gallery/OnlyOne.ram > shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:58:32 EDT From: Jennymac48@aol.com Subject: This is a joke, right? Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? Love Jennymac ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:33:25 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? > Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is > Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a > thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? > Love > Jennymac I knew *that* Jenny, but your "fisherman's hat effect" allusion is a new wrinkle. Now I visualize a penis-man standing at the front of some fishing vessel's stormy deck, with a head made of one of those slick yellow hats...and an eye patch...yelling "I'm king of the world!" like Leonardo DeCaprio in "Titanic." I've made an appointment for therapy, thank you. If it's penes you seek (that's the plural, pronounced like "pea knees") in Joni's cover art, see her "Sweet Sucker Dance" painting on the sleeve of _Mingus_. List members concur that there's a member there, no? - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:43:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC YesFest Thanks Michael, for a great writeup on the concert...I'll try not to blab on too much, but wanted to add some notes. Firstly, big thanks to Victor for being chauffer & host extroardinaire, made tricky by the fact that he's moved down to Athens, GA! Thanks also to the incredible Mr. Paz for the Yes tickets & backstage pass! You don't know how cool it is to walk past people trying to get even a TICKET to a sold-out show and flaunting a backstage pass! This was the first time I'd seen Yes. It was very impressive, obviously I was very excited to hear "Roundabout" & "Seen All Good People", as well as "Close To The Edge", "Wondrous Stories", "Long Distance Runaround" and ESPECIALLY "Perpetual Change". The Yes Album is one of a handful of 'perfect records', without a misplaced misconceived second! Victor was also very accomodating to allow me to beat out the rhythm on his back. Michael also alluded to the crowd noise and the nature of the venue...though our seats were great, we WERE right behind the families and dates who were there for the "social event" and not for the music. Very distracting, especially when a little rain caused all the Muffy's and Buffy's to put up umbrellas so's not to spoil their 'doos...luckily I was able to tone that out and enjoy the show. And as always, lots of good music made by jmdler's before & after the gig...Micheal previewed some of his Topsfield set for me. I'm sworn to secrecy, but be prepared to be blown away! Very exciting stuff, assuming Michael's stage fright doesn't cause him to choke!! LOL! Victor played bass, keyboard, a catfood dish, a lamp, and his carrot piccolo. He played a new song, which was very enjoyable, and sounded like a Carole King/Jimmy Webb melody. Had a great line about a street singer, who "sang just like Otis, but nobody seemed to notice". I also made an early blood donation to the Atlanta mosquitoes, hopefully they'll send a message to Topsfield that this poor boy's got no more blood to give...I've got more bumps than a topographical globe! **About Michael's bad back...the true story is that he was snoring at the hotel and when I told him to shut up he told me "Oh yeah, make me!" so I had to open up a big ole can of SC whup-ass on him! I didn't mean to hurt him so badly, sometimes I forget my own strength. Anyway, he'll not mess with the SCJoniguy anytime soon, I can tell you that! I only hope I can still convinve him to play some backup for me at the fest.** Anyway, all in all it was an immense amount of fun. When you get a chance to socialize with JMDL'ers, do it. Always. On the way back to Greenville on Sunday, I got stuck in a traffic jam for about an hour. I mean, emergency-brake-on-going-nowhere stuck. I found this little book in the Saturn about friends, so I read it while I waited. One of the quotes was by Walt Whitman, and it went "Surely I deserve my enemies, but I don't believe I deserve my friends". I know what he meant...I don't know what I ever did to rate such wonderful friends like Victor & Michael, but I'm glad that I did! Bob NP: Thin Lizzy, "Cowboy Song" **writer's embellishment ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:07:01 -0400 (EDT) From: w evans Subject: Re: Collaboration NJC > What little I know about P.F. Sloan, he was a fixture in west coast music production during the late 50's/early 60's, probably worked a lot with Webb and hence the "summer-burned" reference. > Sloan, Brian Wilson, Terry Melcher, & ? Usher (forget his first name) produced most of the earliest "surf music", one of my favorite genres. > > Bob > Gary Usher, who a few years later in 1966-68 produced some of the best Byrds albums: Younger Than Yesterday, Notorious Byrd Brothers, and Sweetheart of the Rodeo. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:15:20 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) I don't believe it - England are actually getting close to beating Australia! I'm sure the match will have a few twists and turns yet, but as I type we're 206 for 2, needing just over 100 to win. Am I dreaming?? Sorry to exclude the North Americans on the list ;-) Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:20:04 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long Thanks for the Yes report, Michael. Sounds like you guys had good times. Wish I could've been there with you guys. Sorry you tweaked your back though. I've nominated you for a JMDL Purple Heart Award, seeing as you were injured in the line of duty, kinda. Prepare to be pinned, Bum Back P. (Hey, that works as a rap moniker, too, like P. Diddy or 'Ol Dirty Bastard...hmm, can you bust a rhyme?) Yes rocks! The very first song I ever heard on CD was "Owner of a Lonely Heart" on the Yes "90215" album (1983). I was awestruck!. Their production values and synth work blew me away sans static. I thought I'd never take the headphones off. I listened to that song time and time again. Rick Wakeman wasn't on this tour, was he? - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:33:26 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #254 Fellow list members, Blair Fraipont wrote: >Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:00:23 -0400 >From: "Blair Fraipont" >Subject: Impromptu Joni Cover > > Yesterday in Rehoboth Beach on Baltimore Avenue, this very good Jazz > >Guitarist performed 7-10pm. He did a couple Louis Jordan Numbers, a good > >old Satchmo cover and some originals. On his break he came into the cafe > >where I worked and I mentioned that he should do some Mingus. He >mentioned >that he once did Goodbye Porkpie Hat and that Joni Mitchell.... >That is >where I interrupted and said, YES! Her lyrics added so much to >that song, I >am a big fan. Well he and his wife were at the same show in >1998 at The >university of Maryland! We talked a bit and then he said that >he still does >a cover of The Jungle Line. I asked him if he could perform >it and he said >he definitely would. Obviously, it was quite different >from the Joni >Version, but his vocals brought out the magnitude and color of the lyrics > >that Joni had on HOSL. I was so pleased that i got to hear a Great joni > >cover and one of my favorite songs. Sorry, Bob I didnt have a tape >recorder >to have it included in Covers Volume 23..but who knows, it may >surface. > Sincerely, >Blair > And now, me: Blair is almost certainly describing Bruce Anthony, originally from Chester, Pa., a former fellow resident of Dover, Del., and since early 2000, a resident of Wilmington, Del. I have several of his recordings and have lent two of them, which included "Jungle Line," to Bob "SCJoniGuy" Muller to put on a future Covers volume. I went along with Bruce and his French-Canadian wife, Lyse, to the referenced 1998 U. of Md. show. We all had a great time. Tim Spong _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:57:21 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: P.F. Sloan (NJC) Paul asks: >(who was P.F. Sloan, I wonder?) Someone else answered this pretty comprehensively, but there was ANOTHER song with his name in the title...something like "In Search of P.F. Sloan"...don't remember who did it... and - you knew this was coming, right? :) - Sloan, P. F. The Golden Bear Huntington Beach 1/24/71 2 Mary Z. He opened for Poco, who I LOVED, but I was not impressed with him and only gave him a 2. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:58:21 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Tim Curry cover "CBSASF" This reply may be late, but I believe the title of the Tim Curry album you seek is "Fearless." His first album (which I have in a box somewhere) has a cover of "All I Want." He takes some liberties with the lyric: "I want a hand up your sweater, I want to write you a love letter..." sung Frank'n furter style. Oh, Margaret. CC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:00:05 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted Do any of you on the musical cutting edge know anything about Lucy Webster? I heard a song on public radio called "Red Jaguar". This girl sounds a lot like Joni. This particular song had a lot of Joni's song mannerisms. I need to know more about this one. While we're at it there's a group called Jo Lee and the Wanted, supposedly a country band, that sounds like they have some potential. I would appreciate any info on these two. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:29:39 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Paz' Blues Paz's Blues (Key of E, of course...) My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed And I got more autographs Than any of y'all has... Live in a shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans And I've been playin' these damn three chords Since I was in my teens... I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I'm playin' Yes and Joni And stayin' up way too late... Now I'm rollin' in the airport On this here chair with wheels Rock and rollin' in the airport In this chair with wheels And I ain't givin' up the good life With my cheufer in heels (That's right, stillettos!) Gonna roll on down to Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin In jus' eleven days My favorite party done begin Yea in just a few short days, That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' heart- poundin', disco polka party does begin.... Scooby doobie do... Good Gawd, Y'all! Luv ya!~ Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:02:02 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Paz' Blues Good Evening, here on saturday Night live this is your host, Leonard Pinth Garnell. Tonight we take a sojourn down that long and dusty road to frolic amongst the more rural strains of the terpsicordian muse. With history as our guide but suffering as always with the cards that we were dealt tonight I bring you BAD BLUES MUSIC.......Insufferably bad blues music but blues music nonetheless......take it away....... Paz's Blues (Key of E, of course...) My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed And I got more autographs Than any of y'all has... Live in a shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans And I've been playin' these damn three chords Since I was in my teens... I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I'm playin' Yes and Joni And stayin' up way too late... Now I'm rollin' in the airport On this here chair with wheels Rock and rollin' in the airport In this chair with wheels And I ain't givin' up the good life With my cheufer in heels (That's right, stillettos!) Gonna roll on down to Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin In jus' eleven days My favorite party done begin Yea in just a few short days, That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' heart- poundin', disco polka party does begin.... Scooby doobie do... Good Gawd, Y'all! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:16:06 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Radio VLJC This excerpt is from a piece by the radio columnist for the Fort Worth Star Telegram. I was reading his column today, and this just hit me between the eyes. This is exactly how I feel about radio these days, and if there are at least two of us there must be more. If I ran radio, here's what you'd hear Robert Philpot - Commentary "Hey, it's nice to be noticed, but it took awhile to catch my breath after I fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that a radio station would actually listen to me. If radio programmers listened to me... oldies and classic-rock stations wouldn't play the same 400 songs over and over and over and ... If radio stations listened to me, Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, the Specials, Lucinda Williams, Randy Newman, Morphine and '80s R.E.M. would get a lot more airplay than they do now. The rockingest songs of Stevie Wonder, War, the Temptations and Sly and the Family Stone would play on stations that play Bob Seger, Led Zeppelin and Bruce Springsteen, like they did when I was growing up. If radio stations listened to me, I'd never have to hear Stairway to Heaven again, and anything from what was once known as side three of Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti would serve as an acceptable substitute. If radio stations listened to me, they would probably go broke. Radio stations listen to their corporate owners, to Arbitron, to advertisers, to focus groups and to request lines, in just about that order. Which is why everything is so danged bland." My question is why don't radio stations listen to him??? I honestly believe that Stairway to Heaven is probably the greatest rock song ever, but I don't fully appreciate its greatness when I hear it EVERY DAY. And what is up with the narrow focus of playlists? Why can't you hear a Temptations song on the same station that plays Springsteen? I hear Lifehouse and Creed on the same stations that play Nsync and Destiny's Child - what is the difference? Aren't some of the listmembers here involved in the music biz, albeit perhaps not directly in radio. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. And last but not least, why don't I hear Joni on the radio at all any more? GRRRRR Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:20:44 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Paz' Blues At 01:02 PM 8/20/01 EDT, you wrote: >Good Evening, here on saturday Night live this is your host, Leonard Pinth Garnell. Tonight we take a sojourn down that long and dusty road to frolic amongst the more rural strains of the terpsicordian muse. With history as our guide but suffering as always with the cards that we were dealt tonight I bring you BAD BLUES MUSIC.......Insufferably bad blues music but blues music nonetheless......take it away....... > >Paz's Blues >(Key of E, of course...) > >My name is Micheal Paz >My back's done gone and spazed >My name is Micheal Paz >My back's done gone and spazed >And I got more autographs >Than any of y'all has... > >Live in a shack on the bayou >Down in New Orleans >Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou >Down in New Orleans >And I've been playin' these damn three chords >Since I was in my teens... > >I gots a funky keyboard >And I gots me a VG-8 >I gots a funky keyboard >And I gots me a VG-8 >I'm playin' Yes and Joni >And stayin' up way too late... > >Now I'm rollin' in the airport >On this here chair with wheels >Rock and rollin' in the airport >In this chair with wheels >And I ain't givin' up the good life >With my cheufer in heels >(That's right, stillettos!) > >Gonna roll on down to Topsfield >Singin' and drinkin' gin >Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield >Singin' and drinkin' gin >In jus' eleven days >My favorite party done begin > >Yea in just a few short days, >That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' >heart- poundin', disco polka party >does begin.... >Scooby doobie do... >Good Gawd, Y'all! > > > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:36:01 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? > If it's penes you seek (that's the plural, pronounced like "pea knees") it's peni-pronounced pee nigh!!!!! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:36:41 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) No you aren't dreaming-as you probably know by now, they won. AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > I don't believe it - England are actually getting close to beating Australia! > I'm sure the match will have a few twists and turns yet, but as I type we're > 206 for 2, needing just over 100 to win. Am I dreaming?? > > Sorry to exclude the North Americans on the list ;-) > > Azeem in London - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Radio VLJC Amen! And what's good for "Stairway ..." is probably also good for the Joni that you DO still hear on the radio -- though it be as rare as a perfect game in Major League Baseball. If I could find ANY station that opted for, say, "Offnight Back Street" instead of "Both Sides Now" ... or "Strange Boy" instead of "Big Yellow Taxi" ... I'd rip the knobs off my radio and not look back! ;-) Of course it'll never happen. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:09:54 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:29:55 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: joni " love tester" for fun, you can test joni on "the love tester"...just get her name into the first window, then test her with any of almost 3000 others listed... i tested her with graham nash and james taylor, where JT scored higher on the love and friendship and dating angle... have fun: http://www.bassita.com/index.php3 shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:10:34 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted try www.lucywebster.com and tell me if this is the same person you are looking for. It's a singer/songwriter website. db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hicks Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:10 PM To: KJHSF@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:12:57 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted (NJC) If it's the same, you can hear a bunch of her songs on MP3.com and CD Baby has the CD "In My Opinion" which contains the song "Red Jag." http://www.cdbaby.com/view/webster "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > try www.lucywebster.com and tell me if this is the same person you are > looking for. It's a singer/songwriter website. db > > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hicks > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:10 PM > To: KJHSF@aol.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > > > From: KJHSF@aol.com > > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > > > Good Afternoon!!! > > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years > ago, > > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to > a > > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still > look > > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, > but > > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you > are > > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have > any > > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > > All My Best > > Ken from SF > > Ken, > > I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via > email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard > "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:17:15 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted This has got to be the same woman, i'm listening to her right now through my computer and she does sound very much like Joni, i'll be ordering this cd...db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hicks Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:10 PM To: KJHSF@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:50:36 -0400 From: "denknee" Subject: Covers and, uh, covers Thank you, thank you, thank you, folks, for the warm welcome. Okay, I figured out the 'Hejira' prick, er, pic ... still having trouble with the 'Clouds' cover, tho. I even yanked out the lp to have a better look-see. Still, no-go. A hint, perhaps? Is "it" in Joni's hair? Hiding in her fingers if you look at the picture at a 35.75 degree angle? In the leaves of the flower? In the river's reflection of the building if you hold it up to a mirror and squint really, really hard? Maybe David Geffen is hiding in the bushes in the all togethers and I just can't see him (nor the forest) for the trees... Holy mackerel, Bob, that is one totally awesome covers project you overtook! Absolutely amazing!! I'm trying to pull together a similar project with Laura Nyro covers. I thought what I had gathered so far was pretty impressive, but your Joni list totally dwarfs mine. Of course Joni's tunes have had a lot more coverage, tho, too. I tried to find something to add to it, but you have it ALL covered! Even my more obscure titles showed up on your list. But, I could add "Both Sides Now" by Bola Sete on his 'Working On A Groovy Thing' lp on Paramount Records # PAS 5011. It may very well be the same version you have listed ... my copy has liner notes written by Ralph Gleason and includes a couple of Beatles tunes, plus CSN's "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" and Nyro's "Wedding Bell Blues" (if those clues mean anything to ya). And I DO have that Nick DeCaro 'Italian Graffiti' album - if you still need Joni's "All I Want" from it, just lemme know. Oh, and how about 'The Best of Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' on Columbia #C 32911 from 1974 (previously released as 'The Hottest New Group in Jazz' as CS 8198) collecting the original recordings of "Twisted" (Annie Ross - solo), "Centerpiece", and "Summertime" (which, we know, Joni sang on 'Herbie Hancock's 'Gershwin's World' disc)? And, you could probably go nuts tracking down every little reissue, but, I also have "Urge for Going" on George Hamilton IV's 'The Best of George Hamilton IV' album on RCA Victor #LSP-4265 - from 1970 - in case you happen to be a completist (would that be an understatement? ). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:13:30 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers and, uh, covers <> Cool! I've tried to track that one down with no luck, so I'd love the assistance. If you're comfortable with it you can send me the album and I can dub it direct to disc, or you can record the track on high bias tape and send me the tape, or if you're REALLY hi-tech, record it as an MP3 and e-mail it to me. Obviously, I will gladly return your source media to you at my expense, and send you a complimentary copy of the compilation when it's completed. <> I already have a LHR Ross version of "Twisted" & "Centerpiece", and I wouldn't even THINK of collecting covers of "Summertime" - that'd be a whole 'nuther animal! ;~) < ).>> I would guess that it's the same recording he put out originally...even if it's different, it's probably more or less the same. So I think we're all right on that. But I *AM* excited about that Nick DeCaro, so let me know off-list about completing the exchange, and your name can join the Looooong list of JMDL contributors, without whom I would be hurtin' fer certain! Your Nyro project sounds pretty cool too! All I know are the obvious ones; Three Dog Night, Fifth Dimension, etc. I didn't care too much for the 'official' Nyro tribute disc. Bob, who also today picked up new covers of "The Priest" and a vocal version of "Chair In The Sky"!! NP: Townsend-Lane, "Annie" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:15:22 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Covers and, uh, covers - NJC denknee wrote: > Holy mackerel, Bob, that is one totally awesome covers project you overtook! > Absolutely amazing!! I'm trying to pull together a similar project with Laura > Nyro covers. I thought what I had gathered so far was pretty impressive, but > your Joni list totally dwarfs mine. Of course Joni's tunes have had a lot > more coverage, tho, too. I doubt whether this is true. Though Joni has written much more material. For those interested, I read that Eli's Comin', which had a mini JMDL gathering in June, is returning to Off Broadway this Fall. If you get a chance to see it, do so. It is vintage Laura Nyro. Jerry np: Edith Piaf-Voice of the Sparrow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:17:02 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Sir Paul in New Orleans - NJC Paz, It is so cool you mentioned Sir Paul being in New Orleans last week. A guy I work with was down there for a traveling batcher party with a bunch of guys he went to high school with. They all went out to dinner (not sure of the name of the restaurant). Anyway the restaurant they were in had this long wing in it, and even though the restaurant was very crowded, the guys noticed they weren't sitting anyone in their section. Eventually, it was just their table and one other with anyone sitting at it, when Sir Paul and Heather were escorted to a table right next to my friend's. While my friends were classy enough not to bother them, they did eaves drop on them quite a bit. He said they were having a very quiet and romantic dinner. At one point they even heard Paul singing to her - how sweet is that! They then over heard them talking about going to a jazz club - I'll assume it was Snug Harbor - so guess where my friend ended up. Apparently, they weren't the only ones eaves ! dropping, because the group at t he other table also showed up at the same jazz club. While they never did speak to him, or anything, he said it was a night he will never forget. He will be so happy you sent your email, because half the people up here didn't believe it was actually Paul. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:24:42 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Paz' Blues Oh my gawd you people are just trying to make me hurt my back even more from laughing so much. The back is much better today, but if I keep have these knee jerk laughing sessions I could wind up in traction. Paz on 8/20/01 9:29 AM, Steve Polifka at polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us wrote: > Paz's Blues > (Key of E, of course...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:24:45 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long Thanks Kakki and yes a very Happy Birthday to Amy and Pat. Damn there sure alot of Leos on this list. Paz on 8/19/01 7:19 PM, Kakki at KakkiB@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Paz howled and moaned: > > >> screaming with laughter and some pain. Try saying >"bumbackpaz real fast > 10 times. Thanks for the laugh. > > Oh my, I hope for a quick cure Michael - but it sounds like the fun was > worth it a bit! I prescribe a very chilled gin martini with extra olive > juice at least twice a day. It was so great to hear from you, Victor and > Bob yesterday - thanks so much for calling! > > And thanks to everyone for the very sweet birthday wishes - it was a great > one. > > Happy birthday to Pat McFad and Amy, too (Amy you are WAY too quiet around > here ;-) > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:40:46 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted Well, based upon comments about Lucy Webster, I decided to check out her website for myself. One of the things I found the most intersting was under the link called Fun Events! There in all it's glory, was an advertisement for the First Annual JoniFest at the Gypsy Cafe! Unfortunately, this is an ad for something that has already occurred, but I still think it was pretty cool! I guess I'm going to have to buy her CD now as well. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:55:48 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? AKA "La Cara de Papa" Paz (reduced to dick jokes) on 8/20/01 5:58 AM, Jennymac48@aol.com at Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: > Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is > Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a > thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? > Love > Jennymac ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:05:58 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC YesFest Oh sure. You talk REAL big after you have climbed back in to your Saturn and are far enough away from me. No prob tho. You gotta show up at Ashara's sometime tho and I will be waiting for you with an army of blood sucking flying crusteaceans trained in the Lestat Plasma Institute. Paz P.S. You wanna to play "back up" again??? I thought we weren't gonna go there on list for fear of riling up the South American contingent. on 8/20/01 6:43 AM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com at SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > **About Michael's bad back...the true story is that he was snoring at the > hotel and when I told him to shut up he told me "Oh yeah, make me!" so I had > to open up a big ole can of SC whup-ass on him! I didn't mean to hurt him so > badly, sometimes I forget my own strength. Anyway, he'll not mess with the > SCJoniguy anytime soon, I can tell you that! I only hope I can still convinve > him to play some backup for me at the fest.** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:15:17 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: YES! Bittersweet (NJC) long Julius Julius Julius- Yea boooooooooooyeeeeeeee, I can busta rhyme. I will also bust yo ass if you aren't in the Topsfield number?? Get it-got it-good! Furthermore, most Yes head don't consider 90125 a Yes album at all and NO Rick was absent from that line up. I thought Trevor Rabin was an excellant guitar/keyboardist/songwriter/singer, and he coped Steve's parts live l;ike no one else I have ever heard, but..... I am a Steve Howe fan forever. It was cool for me when i sae them a couple of times on the Union tour (including opening night of the tour in Pensacola Florida where they rehearsed the tour and I was also able to sneak into sound check + have my own DAT recording and someone elses video recording of this show, but I digress) and I really enjoyed having both factions of the Yes Bands in the house so to speak. The combo of Bruford and White on drums was almost to Close to the Edge for me. Both of them are so amazing. Rick Wakeman needs no accolades and probably the weakest link was Tony Kaye, but DAMN he looked so good doing it (such a poseur). The only thing wrong with Yes Band is they think they are songwriters, they actually refuse to do any Joni Covers whatsoever. This stinks! It's for this reason that I will never totally accept them as artists and probably not see them more than another 10-15 times. Paz on 8/20/01 8:20 AM, J. R. Mills at jrmills@pacbell.net wrote: > Thanks for the Yes report, Michael. Sounds like you guys had good times. > Wish I could've been there with you guys. Sorry you tweaked your back > though. I've nominated you for a JMDL Purple Heart Award, seeing as you > were injured in the line of duty, kinda. Prepare to be pinned, Bum Back P. > (Hey, that works as a rap moniker, too, like P. Diddy or 'Ol Dirty > Bastard...hmm, can you bust a rhyme?) > > Yes rocks! The very first song I ever heard on CD was "Owner of a Lonely > Heart" on the Yes "90215" album (1983). I was awestruck!. Their production > values and synth work blew me away sans static. I thought I'd never take > the headphones off. I listened to that song time and time again. Rick > Wakeman wasn't on this tour, was he? > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:15:37 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: njc The unthinkable happening? (cricket content) In a message dated 20/08/01 18:28:01 GMT Daylight Time, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: << No you aren't dreaming-as you probably know by now, they won. AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > I don't believe it - England are actually getting close to beating Australia! > I'm sure the match will have a few twists and turns yet, but as I type we're > 206 for 2, needing just over 100 to win. Am I dreaming?? > >> I was out all evening, and videoed it - I've just finished watching it, and I'll swear I went a bit dewy eyed at the finish. Mark Butcher - what a man! I always thought he shouldn't have been dropped. Anyway... This is for John in Sydney, with apologies to the infamous Norwegian football commentator: Ned Kelly, Dame Edna Everage, Gough Whitlam, Kylie Minogue, Gary Shearston, can you hear me?? Your boys took a hell of a beating today!! I'll stop babbling now, as most of you won't have the foggiest idea what I'm going on about :-) Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:37:28 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Radio VLJC I can NOT agree with you more Sybil. I am in the music business, but all that means is that I have far less influence than anyone else does as a consumer. You answered your own question here in your fifth paragraph. It's really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I don't even think the request line has that much to do with it anymore. Maybe it's time to band together and and create our own cause and boycott all these corporate monsters and make a change. I have control at work where I program my own radio station on Sonicnet, but it has its downfalls as well. I remember when I was a teenager living in Honduras and we use to go out to the drive ins or wherever and tune into KAAY out of Little Rock, Arkansas, late at night they had a show called "Beeker Street" and they use to play some amazing shit. As I was atelling Victor and Bob as we left the Yes show and tuned 92.thesame200fuckingclassicrocksongswealwaysplay, and they proceeded to play pre approved music from Yes that the first 3 were all songs by the Yes West Band (WITH Trevor Rabin Owner of a Lonely Heart, It Can Happen, and Love Will Find Away-ALL GREAT SONGS MIND YOU and then of course fucking Roundabout) The committed to his audience DJ took phone calls from the fans and of course the majority of them all mentioned "the hits" even if they didn't know the correct name of the song (Runaround is almost the title) well you get my drift/diatribe. HOW DO YOU THINK STEVE HOWE WOULD FEEL?????? What if his savvy Tour Manager Paul would have said lets tune into 92.whatever and promote the upcoming album and the band is in the limo listening to this shit on the radio and they play 3 tunes from a band that doesn't even exist anymore??? Don't get me wrong I love Trevor, but commercial success isn't everything. Oh well I guess you have figured olut by now i have a couple of opinions about radio. What do you say we join forces and take down the machine? UP the MUSIC revolution!!!! Singer songwriters should not have to go on their knees, into debt, give up points and percentages, for anyone to get played on the radio. They ought to hire *****people***** to work as DJ's and let THEM pcik what they wanna play. And let the people who listen to the stations pick the DJ's they want to listen based on their performance of their job. YEAH thats it! Paz (obviously on my second martini) on 8/20/01 10:16 AM, Sybil Skelton at sybilskelton@hotmail.com wrote: > This excerpt is from a piece by the radio columnist for the Fort Worth Star > Telegram. I was reading his column today, and this just hit me between the > eyes. This is exactly how I feel about radio these days, and if there are > at least two of us there must be more. > > If I ran radio, here's what you'd hear > Robert Philpot - Commentary > > > "Hey, it's nice to be noticed, but it took awhile to catch my breath after I > fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that a radio station would > actually listen to me. If radio programmers listened to me... oldies and > classic-rock stations wouldn't play the same 400 songs over and over and > over and ... > > If radio stations listened to me, Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello, Joni > Mitchell, the Specials, Lucinda Williams, Randy Newman, Morphine and '80s > R.E.M. would get a lot more airplay than they do now. The rockingest songs > of Stevie Wonder, War, the Temptations and Sly and the Family Stone would > play on stations that play Bob Seger, Led Zeppelin and Bruce Springsteen, > like they did when I was growing up. If radio stations listened to me, I'd > never have to hear Stairway to Heaven again, and anything from what was once > known as side three of Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti would serve as an > acceptable substitute. > > If radio stations listened to me, they would probably go broke. Radio > stations listen to their corporate owners, to Arbitron, to advertisers, to > focus groups and to request lines, in just about that order. Which is why > everything is so danged bland." > > My question is why don't radio stations listen to him??? I honestly believe > that Stairway to Heaven is probably the greatest rock song ever, but I don't > fully appreciate its greatness when I hear it EVERY DAY. And what is up with > the narrow focus of playlists? Why can't you hear a Temptations song on the > same station that plays Springsteen? I hear Lifehouse and Creed on the same > stations that play Nsync and Destiny's Child - what is the difference? > > Aren't some of the listmembers here involved in the music biz, albeit > perhaps not directly in radio. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. > > And last but not least, why don't I hear Joni on the radio at all any more? > GRRRRR > > > Sybil > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #357 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?