From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #349 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 349 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- njc -nuriels original palestinian post [Kammass@aol.com] Today's Articles: August 14 [les@jmdl.com] Today in Joni History: August 14 [les@jmdl.com] re: empty try another (NJC) long and somewhat self-indulgent! [LXROSS@ctr] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Theft [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) ["Martin Giles" ] Crosby on "World Cafe", today, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [slarty ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [slarty ] Yes Stuff (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) ["Martin Giles" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [slarty ] Strange Bavarian Joni sighting [AzeemAK@aol.com] NJC The Weakest Link njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] re: empty try another (NJC) long and somewhat self-indulgent! [Catherine ] Kate Bennett ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: empty try another (NJC) long and somewhat self-indulgent! ["hell" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [Relayer211@aol.com] Happy Birthday Croz! NJC [Scott Price ] Re: Happy Birthday Croz! NJC [Catherine McKay ] Joni article in NUVO ["Alice Sebrell" ] Re: Joni article in NUVO [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC The Weakest Link njc [Michael Paz ] M Chapin Carpenter [was august 10!!!] NJC [dsk ] Re: hey good people, 100% JC, Long ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Subject: RE - The Meaning Of Life - NJC ["Kate Bennett" > Speaking of which, there is an England rugby player called Austin Healey. I didn't think anything of it until talking to someone at work about rugby, and he said "yeah, what about that poor bastard named after a car..." Still, it could have been worse - Alpha Sud, for example. Actually, that reminds me, when I was in Seattle once I saw a stand-up comic called Alpha Trivette, which I suspected (a) wasn't his real name and (b) was the name of a vehicule. Didn't help his jokes none, though, they sucked big time. Mike Dunga wasn't much better; the only one who was really funny was Dean Oleson. Anyone heard of him? Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:15:27 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Theft In a message dated 14/08/01 04:02:05 GMT Daylight Time, sharonbuffington@mn.mediaone.net writes: << On TV tonight the newscaster announced that a huge robbery had occurred at one of our famous department stores. The thieves took bras. >> Wait a minute, this is a joke, innit? Punchline awaited, something like "the police are hoping for support from the local community" - come on, someone can come up with a better one surely?? Azeem NP - Highway 61 Revisited - I'm on a bit of a Dylan jag at the moment, working my way through the dozen or so CDs of his in my collection. Ah, at the risk of descending into triteness, I NEVER get tired of Like A Rolling Stone... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:33:23 +0800 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Douglas Adams also co-wrote a book with a zoologist called Mark Carwardine called 'Last Chance To See'. It was the story of their travels to find out about some endangered species around the world. It is a fantastic book, and he manages to bring tears of laughter in one paragraph, only to break your heart in the next. In the last chapter he tells a story which he heard many years before, and which he says he finally understood after a year of exploring some of the endangered environments of the world. He tells it in his own style, and I've copied it out below, it's worth the read - and sorry about any typos. 'It concerns an ancient city - it doesn't matter where it was or what it was called - it was a thriving, prosperous city set in the middle of a large plain. One summer, while the people of the city were busy thriving and prospering away, a strange old beggar woman arrived at the gates carrying twelve large books, which she offered to sell to them. She said that the books contained all the knowledge and all the wisdom of the world, and that she would let the city have all twelve of them in return for a single sack of gold. The people of the city thought that this was a very funny idea. They said that she obviously had no conception of the value of gold and that probably the best thing was for her to go away again. This she agreed to do, but first, she said, she was going to destroy half the books in front of them. She built a small bonfire, burnt six of the books of all knowledge and all wisdom in the sight of the people of the city and then went on her way. Winter came and went, a hard winter, but the city just about managed to flourish through it and then the following summer the old woman was back. "Oh you again," said the people of the city. "How's the knowledge and wisdom going?" "Six books," she said, "just six left. Half of all the knowledge and wisdom in the world. Once again I am offering to sell them to you." "Oh yes?" sniggered the people of the city. "Only the price has changed" "Not surprised." "Two sacks of gold." "What?" "Two sacks of gold for the six remaining books of knowledge and wisdom. Take it or leave it." "It seems to us," said the people of the city, "that you can't be very wise or knowledgeable yourself or you would realise that you can't go around quadrupling an already outrageous price in a buyer's market. If that's the sort of knowledge and wisdom you're peddling then, frankly you can keep it at any price." "Do you want them or not?" "No." "Very well. I will trouble you for some firewood." She built another bonfire, and burnt three of the remaining books in front of them and set off back across the plain. That night, one or two curious people sneaked out and sifted through the embers to see if they could salvage a page or two, but the fire had burnt very thoroughly and the old woman had raked the ashes. There was nothing. Another hard winter took it's toll on the city and they had a little trouble with famine and desease, but trade was good and they were in reasonably good shape again by the following summer when, once again, the old woman appeared. "You're early this year," they said to her. "Less to carry," she explained, showing them the three books she was still carrying. "A quarter of all the knowledge and wisdom in the world. Do you want it?" "What's the price?" "Four sacks of gold." "You're completely mad old woman. Apart from anything else our economy's going through a bit of a sticky patch at the moment. Sack of gold are completely out of the question." "Firewood please." "Now wait a minute," said the people of the city, "this isn't doing anybody any good. We've been thinking about all of this, and we've put together a small comittee to have a look at these books of yours. Let us evaluate them for a few months, see if they're worth anything to us, and when you come back next year perhaps we can put in some kind of a reasonable offer. We are not talking sacks of gold here though." The old woman shook her head. "No," she said. "Bring me the firewood." "It'll cost you." "No matter," said the woman, with a shrug. "The books will burn quite well by themselves." So saying, she set about shredding two of the books which then burnt easily. She set off swiftly across the plain and left the people to face another year. She was back in the late spring. "Just the one left," she said, putting it down on the ground in front of her. "So I was able to bring my own firewood." "How much," said the people of the city. "Sixteen sacks of gold." "We'd only budgeted for eight." "Take it or leave it." "Wait here." The people of the city went off into a huddle and returned half an hour later. "Sixteen sacks of gold is all we have left," they pleaded. "Times are hard. You must leave us with something." The old woman just hummed to herself as she started to pile the kindling together. "All right!" they cried at last, opened up the gates of the city and led out two oxcarts, each laden with eight sacks of gold, "But it had better be good." "Thank you," said the old woman, "it is. And you should have seen the rest of it." She led the two oxcarts away across the plain with her, and left the people of the city to survive as best they could with the one remaining twelfth of all the knowledge and wisdom that had been in the world.' Martin. In London. Hell said.. > Yes, Douglas Adams is correct. I was shocked to hear of his death - I was > really hoping to see a few more books from him. For the record, there are 5 > books in the "Hitchhiker" series, the fifth one (Mostly Harmless) > sub-titled: "The fifth book in the increasingly inaccurately named Hitch > Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy". > If you liked this series, you should also check out "Dirk Gently's Holistic > Detective Agency" and "The Long, Dark Tea-time Of The Soul". Hilarious. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:54:30 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Crosby on "World Cafe", today, NJC David Crosby will be on "The World Cafe" today, along with the rest of CPR. Streaming on the web at 2PM Eastern (GMT-5) at www.wnku.org . "The World Cafe" is a product of that leftist organization, "National Public Radio". (Mandatory political content.) All the best, Jim "Man-of-God" (trying my best to approach living up to the name....) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:05:03 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: NJC The meaning of life Or it could mean that we are faintly remembering. As the saying goes, "We are not physical beings with a spiritual dimension. We are spiritual beings with a physical dimension." Jim Kakki proposed: >>>>The fact that there > are common themes and threads through all of them, even the most obscure, > has always been proof to me personally that a higher power must exist. Randy Remote opined: >>>>It could just mean that all humans have in common the psychological need to invent religion~ RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:21:31 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: NJC thank you all for the help. learned about the archives. thanks kammy in alabammy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:31:22 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: NJC The meaning of life Does that mean that as our physical dimensions enlarge we become more spiritual? Could explain why as people get older they become more spiritual. Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Or it could mean that we are faintly remembering. As the saying goes, > "We are not physical beings with a spiritual dimension. We are > spiritual beings with a physical dimension." > > Jim > > Kakki proposed: > >>>>The fact that there > > are common themes and threads through all of them, even the most > obscure, > > has always been proof to me personally that a higher power must exist. > > Randy Remote opined: > >>>>It could just mean that all humans have in common the psychological > need to invent religion~ > RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:43:50 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Ok sorry another joke I didn't get so I checked on Yahoo. John Watson is either 1. An Artist 2. A Tasmanian Senator 3. A Realtor 4. Another Artist 5. Wonko Right. Now I remember. Been a while since I read the book Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. Another good bit in the book - 2 words. Rain God. hell wrote: > > I love that one too, but basically the whole book is hilarious from start to > finish. Another great part is where he's describing John Watson. I'm > paraphrasing, but it's something like: "Take a couple of David Bowies, and > stick them onto a couple more David Bowie's and you'll have something that > doesn't look quite like him but which those who know him would find > hauntingly familiar. He was tall and he gangled." > > Hell > ____________________________ > "To have great poets, there must be > great audiences too." - Walt Whitman > > hell@ihug.co.nz > Hell's Personal Photo Page: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm > > Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: > http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:41:32 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) I didn't want to read down to to the end as I've just downloaded the story (audio version) with WinMX and Morpheus. I've only listened to the first 2 parts..... but I read it anyway. Douglas Adams himself reads it. Some very poignant moments. Such as the feeding of the goat to the Kamodo Dragon. Martin Giles wrote: > Douglas Adams also co-wrote a book with a zoologist called Mark Carwardine > called 'Last Chance To See'. > > It was the story of their travels to find out about some endangered species > around the world. It is a fantastic book, and he manages to bring tears of > laughter in one paragraph, only to break your heart in the next. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:20:04 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Yes Stuff (NJC) For all of your Yes Heads out there: There is a very interesting interview on www.nfte.org with Alan White about his days with John Lennon on the road and in the studio. I enjoyed reading this article very much and thought I would pass on this info to all of you. Paz NP-Whatever Gets You Through The Night-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:03:55 +0800 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Aha I didn't know it was available as a 'talking book'. I guess that would be a BBC publication originally. As you know, the book arose from a BBC commission in the first place. Perhaps the BBC still sell it. atb, Martin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: slarty To: Martin Giles Cc: joni digest Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) > I didn't want to read down to to the end as I've just downloaded the story > (audio > version) with WinMX and Morpheus. I've only listened to the first 2 parts..... > but I read it anyway. Douglas Adams himself reads it. Some very poignant > moments. > Such as the feeding of the goat to the Kamodo Dragon. > > Martin Giles wrote: > > > Douglas Adams also co-wrote a book with a zoologist called Mark Carwardine > > called 'Last Chance To See'. > > > > It was the story of their travels to find out about some endangered species > > around the world. It is a fantastic book, and he manages to bring tears of > > laughter in one paragraph, only to break your heart in the next. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:09:48 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Yup. The Long Dark Tea Time Of The Soul and Mostly Harmless as well. All with Douglas Adams doing the reading. Martin Giles wrote: > Aha > > I didn't know it was available as a 'talking book'. I guess that would be a > BBC publication originally. As you know, the book arose from a BBC > commission in the first place. Perhaps the BBC still sell it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:26 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Strange Bavarian Joni sighting I just sneaked a look at this month's Mojo, and there's a little story that a reader on holiday in Bavaria spotted a monument to our favourite musician in the form of a trompe-l'oeil, which depicts her as a busty Bavarian Frau ready to do the rounds with an armful of those Steiner glasses. Just how weird is that?? Azeem NP: The Pretenders - Get Close - good to hear this again, it's been years... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:28 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: NJC The Weakest Link njc One consequence of being ill and not having much energy is that I'm watching FAR too much telly. One of my shameful secrets is that, despite my loathing of a lot of trashy telly, I love the Weakest Link. There's something about the form of this show that just works perfectly, and Anne Robinson is the ideal hostess. Anyway, they've been showing the US version of the show for the last couple of weeks, and some major differences have come up, which may or may not cast an interesting light on the differences of those on either side of the pond. I present them as I see them, no judgments should be inferred! (1) Money: the maximum possible prize in the UK is fairly piddling 10,000 pounds, with the average actual prize being around 2 grand, roughly 3 thousand bucks I think. In the US it's a cool million top prize, and the actual awards can be between 50K and 80K. Still, it's not hard to see why: our humble show is on the BBC, while the US is on some big commercial channel. Stakes is high... (2) Some of the blatant cabals that arise are astonishing to this innocent Brit. A couple of days ago, three of the contestants had got together and conspired to vote everyone else off, regardless of their performance, and (presumably) share the spoils. I say chaps, that's just not cricket! Wouldn't get our chaps over here getting up to such skulduggery, etc etc... (3) When people on the UK show are asked their reasons for voting off whomever they've nominated, they usually make an effort to sugar the pill, eg "I'm afraid he had a bad round there" or "she hasn't been very good throughout", sometimes adding "he's a lovely bloke but..." The US contestants, well, they approach things differently, being generally pretty brutal in dismissing their opponents. (4) The biggest difference is when the people who've been voted off give their comments - man are they bad losers! Even when they have been clearly the worst player they mostly refuse to acknowledge it, and spit venom at their vanquishers. Sometimes the Brits do that to, but I'd say that generally the Brits are more gracious losers. Finally, I can say unequivocally that the men are far worse losers than women! What can it possibly mean? Probably not much, except that I've got too much time on my hands right now... Azeem in London NP: Still the Pretenders - How Much Did You Get For Your Soul - this swipe at celebrity advertising and black performers "selling out" (and particularly Michael Jackson I would guess) still packs a punch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: empty try another (NJC) long and somewhat self-indulgent! - --- LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk wrote: > Nuriel asked : > > are all smokers bound to get a nicotin attack? if > so, can anyone tell me > what's it like? > > Response : > > Well you could be sitting at your desk working away > and concentrating easily > on the work at hand when a dry little dialogue takes > place in your > head........ So glad I quit so long ago. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:51:44 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Kate Bennett I have just received Kate Bennett's CD Over The Moon from CDBaby in my post this day. Oh gosh...it is exquisite. Thank you for these gifts you possess Kate. Peace..........Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:35:34 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: empty try another (NJC) long and somewhat self-indulgent! Les wrote: > Well you could be sitting at your desk working away and concentrating easily > on the work at hand when a dry little dialogue takes place in your > head........ > > Sytem Message : "Do it now..." > > Conscious Mind : "Uh?" > > System Message : "Life Support Systems A thru M shut down immediately" > > Conscious Mind (Panicked) : "Ah, a smoke..." This is so accurate it's scary! And why is it that I can work away for 7 or 8 hours, and never even think of having a cigarette - sometimes it will last an entire 24 hours. But when I have a drink in my hand (particularly beer) that little voice is saying "For God's sake! It's been 15 minutes since you put that out. What are you thinking, quick, light another one!" Ridiculous. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:37:16 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) > Ok sorry another joke I didn't get so I checked on > Yahoo. John Watson is either > 1. An Artist > 2. A Tasmanian Senator > 3. A Realtor > 4. Another Artist > 5. Wonko > Right. Now I remember. Been a while since I read the book > Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. > > Another good bit in the book - 2 words. Rain God. Yes, Wonko the Sane. And the Rain God. Anyone who likes a good laugh MUST read this book! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:14:15 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) I'm happy that the lyrics to "Sweet bird" and "Banquet" were mentioned. I think about those songs a lot... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:18:59 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Happy Birthday Croz! NJC Today is David Crosby's 60th birthday. IMO one of the greatest vocalists in the history of rock music. He's used up a few of his nine lives but is still going strong. I wonder about his relationship with Joni. It seems a bit prickly, but I suspect there is a lot of mutual respect. Their collaboration on "Yvette in English" produced a wonderful song...I wish they'd do a few more together. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:39:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Croz! NJC - --- Scott Price wrote: > Today is David Crosby's 60th birthday. IMO one of > the greatest vocalists in > the history of rock music. He's used up a few of his > nine lives but is > still going strong. > Does his new liver give him nine more? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:10:29 -0400 From: "Alice Sebrell" Subject: Joni article in NUVO Joni People, I'm coming out of lurkdom to alert everyone to an upcoming article about Joni in NUVO magazine, published in Canada. It will be in their Fall issue due out in mid-September. If I find out more about the Joni article specifically I'll post, but l from looking at their website it appears to be a nicely designed, well-printed arts and culture magazine. Maybe some of the Canadians on the list know this magazine and can comment. Apologies if this has already been posted. I am a week behind. Alice in Asheville ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni article in NUVO - --- Alice Sebrell wrote: > Joni People, > > I'm coming out of lurkdom to alert everyone to an > upcoming article about > Joni in NUVO magazine, published in Canada. It will > be in their Fall issue > due out in mid-September. If I find out more about > the Joni article > specifically I'll post, but l from looking at their > website it appears to be > a nicely designed, well-printed arts and culture > magazine. Maybe some of the > Canadians on the list know this magazine and can > comment. Apologies if this > has already been posted. I am a week behind. > I hate to admit that I have no culture, but I am Canadian, and I've never heard of this magazine - not that that means much - like I toldya, I ain't got no culcha! (I'll be on the lookout for it though.) - ---------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:36:10 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC The Weakest Link njc I love this show too and I think Anne is hysterical. She has some great writers and her delivery is just tits. I like it more than Regis' show, but I have only seen it about 3 times now. I am so bad about watching TV, I don't even watch my own show more than half the time. Michael (relishing a martini after a VERY good massage {LIFE *CAN* be good}) on 8/14/01 10:12 AM, AzeemAK@aol.com at AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > One consequence of being ill and not having much energy is that I'm watching > FAR too much telly. One of my shameful secrets is that, despite my loathing > of a lot of trashy telly, I love the Weakest Link. There's something about > the form of this show that just works perfectly, and Anne Robinson is the > ideal hostess. > > Anyway, they've been showing the US version of the show for the last couple > of weeks, and some major differences have come up, which may or may not cast > an interesting light on the differences of those on either side of the pond. > I present them as I see them, no judgments should be inferred! > > (1) Money: the maximum possible prize in the UK is fairly piddling 10,000 > pounds, with the average actual prize being around 2 grand, roughly 3 > thousand bucks I think. In the US it's a cool million top prize, and the > actual awards can be between 50K and 80K. Still, it's not hard to see why: > our humble show is on the BBC, while the US is on some big commercial > channel. Stakes is high... > > (2) Some of the blatant cabals that arise are astonishing to this innocent > Brit. A couple of days ago, three of the contestants had got together and > conspired to vote everyone else off, regardless of their performance, and > (presumably) share the spoils. I say chaps, that's just not cricket! > Wouldn't get our chaps over here getting up to such skulduggery, etc etc... > > (3) When people on the UK show are asked their reasons for voting off > whomever they've nominated, they usually make an effort to sugar the pill, eg > "I'm afraid he had a bad round there" or "she hasn't been very good > throughout", sometimes adding "he's a lovely bloke but..." The US > contestants, well, they approach things differently, being generally pretty > brutal in dismissing their opponents. > > (4) The biggest difference is when the people who've been voted off give > their comments - man are they bad losers! Even when they have been clearly > the worst player they mostly refuse to acknowledge it, and spit venom at > their vanquishers. Sometimes the Brits do that to, but I'd say that > generally the Brits are more gracious losers. Finally, I can say > unequivocally that the men are far worse losers than women! > > What can it possibly mean? Probably not much, except that I've got too much > time on my hands right now... > > Azeem in London > > NP: Still the Pretenders - How Much Did You Get For Your Soul - this swipe at > celebrity advertising and black performers "selling out" (and particularly > Michael Jackson I would guess) still packs a punch. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:28:42 -0400 From: dsk Subject: M Chapin Carpenter [was august 10!!!] NJC Jerry Notaro wrote: > Happy Birthday, Les. You look terrific for 60. > > Jerry, excited about seeing Mary Chapin tonight! Hi Jerry, So, how was she? I've seen her recently on late night talk shows and am starting to get curious now. Since you're such a fan, I thought you'd enjoy this article from today's NYTimes. Makes me really want to hear the song The Long Way Home. What she has to say about life after 40 is interesting, too. AUG 14, 2001 Confronting Middle Age With Songs and Pluck By KEVIN SACK MELBOURNE, Fla., Aug. 9  At 43, Mary Chapin Carpenter has seen some life. There have been streaks of breathtaking creativity followed by spells of bewildering frustration. There have been profound love affairs and wrenching breakups. There has been both joy and the darkest sadness. In "Time*Sex*Love," (Sony) her first recording of new music in five years, Ms. Carpenter has harnessed the contradictory emotions of adulthood and produced what is essentially a concept album about middle age. Throughout the recording, which was released in late May, she challenges her listeners, and herself, to live life fully and urgently, to take risks of the heart, to abandon ambition in exchange for simple pleasures, to be philosophical about mistakes and to recognize that much is beyond control. She writes with some bitterness, bordering at times on self-loathing, about her powerlessness against the force of sexual obsession, and she uses her music to reach a reckoning with old lovers and old loves. Above all she recognizes that much in life is received rather than taken, and while she does not encourage passivity, she does encourage acceptance. "Accidents and inspiration, lead you to your destination," she writes in "The Long Way Home," the album's anthem. In the next verse, she advises, "See your life as a gift from the great unknown, and your task is to receive it." ... The rest is at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/14/arts/14MARY.html Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:53:53 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Re: hey good people, 100% JC, Long Hey barbearuh, So nice of you to drop by the jmdl! I make copies of your production of the Joni Video Tree (tape #1 & 2), now refered to as "JMDL video tree #1" several times per year for people new to the jmdl community. Your work lives on and thank you! (Artists are lucky that way. No one ever comes up to me and says, "That data that you organized last June- PRICELESS, LAMA!" :) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ps. General note to all about Joni's videos. Please consider a purchase of "Painting With Words and Music" if you haven't already. Joni had a great band, you see some of her paintings, and many jmdlers were there, a few appearing in the video and she dances! It's available from video stores (and net stores like CDNow) on DVD and VHS in the USA. A DVD release of "Shadows And Light" is usually available on eBay as a legitimate Hong Kong export. It's also been very favorably reviewed on JMDL as it includes 2 tracks never available on VHS. Joni gets "royalty pennies" on these store-bought videos so let's show our support! - ----- Now that I've settled after my move, and I've taken care of my backlog (Hi Megan!), I can make the Joni Video tree #1 and #2 (curiously on 4 vhs tapes) available again. I can only make them on Canadian/USA compatible NTSC VHS. You provide the blanks and return postage. Here's a bonus for those 3 people still reading. After wheting my appetite with dubs from friends, I've bought two out-of-print videos from eBay'ers. So now, stereo dubs of the out-of-print "Come In From The Cold" and "Refuge Of The Roads" videos are available when you provide blank tapes and return postage. Read this carefully: These are fully compatible with the "Hi-Fi Stereo" type of VCRs and sound wonderful. Respond to me off-list and please, no shoving. :) If these are ever re-issued, I'll naturally revoke this offer immediately (and buy them on DVD!). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:18:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2001 #348 "The fact that there are common themes and threads through all of them, even the most obscure, has always been proof to me personally that a higher power must exist." One of my majors was religious studies...i remember learning that all of the major religions believed in reincarnation...except christianity... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:18:12 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: RE - The Meaning Of Life - NJC ron said, "and while the situation does look impossible - look what happened here in south africa. no - its far from perfect yet - but who would have believed that a peaceful solution could be found here????" good point ron & what about that berlin wall? miracles do happen. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #349 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?