From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #345 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, August 12 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 345 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: August 12 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] harmony ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [colin ] apologia pro vita sua ["shane mattison" ] Re: apologia pro vita sua,NJ [Kammass@aol.com] Re: apologia pro vita sua, njc [Kammass@aol.com] RE: apologia pro vita sua ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [slarty ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Remember the tags, please ["Deb Messling" ] Re: apologia pro vita sua ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC [Mags ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] RE: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: The Meaning Of Life(NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC [Brian Gross ] RE: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC [colin ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: apologia pro vita sua (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:10:53 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: August 12 On August 12 in Joni Mitchell History: 1973: Rolling Stone's Random Notes page noted a few weeks after the fact: "It was quite a treat for the fortunate few who squeezed in: Joni, Neil Young, and the Eagles performed two shows tonight and last night at the Topanga Canyon Corral, a tiny club in the L.A. canyon. Admission was $4, all for the benefit of an anti-condominium movement in Topanga." - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:14:50 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu NJC In a message dated 8/11/01 6:35:40 PM, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: >Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu, Fred wrote: >> Fareed's a buddy and musical colleague of mine. Try writing to him at >> fareed@fareed.com to see if copies exist. He may answer ... or may not. > >WOW! Fred, you sure know some of the greats. Fareed's a fellow Chicagoan, and we've played together many times. Also I played on a couple of his records, one of which has a tune of mine on it. Fareed is an extremely talented musician. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:14:15 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) wasn't that a Monty Python movie...i need to watch it again...******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:14:13 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: harmony Magw wrote "that girl and I always did a fine harmony together..and it was heart warming to say the very least to connect with her like that again" There is nothin in the world as amazing as family harmonies...some kind of genetic gift...keep singing together!!!! ****************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:02:11 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I am always thinking and wondering about the point and meaning of life on > this planet...It's very hard for me to understand. Does anyone have any ideas? This is aprt of the Absolute Truth which we as humans with the sort of rbains we have will never no the answer to. We each have to find our own meaning. Each of us has to come to some understanding of what our life is about, it's purpose, it's meaning. Some people find comfort in beleiving that their puprose is to procrreate and thus spread their genes for another genration. Others find it in believing they are here to help others. Yet others believe their life is ordained by 'God' and their prupose is to fulfill that. My own belief is that if I do my best to love myself and others, my life has meaning and purpose. Being there for others, listening, being open to them. As to what this is actually all about, I haven't a clue. I do not know what the prupose behind it all is. I do not believe that our lives end with physical death. I am certain of that. But as to the whys and wherefores, I do not have an idea. I do know that it is important that I ponder upon and that I have my own ideas and d not expect it to come from others. It is my responsibilty to think for myself and not follow the heard. Take a look around at the world and you can see what happens when people insist they understand the purpose of life and that they know the meaning of your life. You are only person that can give your life meaning and purpose. I don't think anyone is here by accident and we each have a purpose and a place here. It is up to us to find it for oursleves. bw colin - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:53:42 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: apologia pro vita sua how intolerant the 'tolerant' can be, of my opinion..."scholarly exegesus" can be an excuse for not searching...i am not some fundamentalist nor evangelical as some of you tried to intolerantly paint me...but i did study scripture at the highest level of this so-called "exegesus", namely my tutor was the Principal of Pusey House, Oxford... i can tell you with certainty that there has been a woeful decline in integrity in such circles of so-called 'expertise', rather similar to the genesis of the decline when it occurred in germany's ivory towers just before the rise of Hitler...there are consequences to intellectual dishonesty... churchill saw the gathering storm...and there is a gathering storm on the horizon today too... it gets tedious to hear how absolute are those who argue against the existence of absolute truth... i also believe that if i, with the good will which i did have, had been of any other world religion...my opinion would have been laudibly treated, not judged...it should make someone wonder why this is so... psychologically, you've thrown alot of projection on me...but i'm not buying it, and i have a right to not be judged by anyone as much as a buddhist or a muslim...and not treated as a fool... i have stayed at zen centers and studied and spent time in native american ceremonies...if they tell me something that is sacred to them, i treat it as sacred...i do not heap on them a volley of outrageous statements demeaning their expertise nor their motives... this then has been an exercise in prejudice against classical and orthodox christianity...and i would have hoped for more from fans of joni mitchell... as the old spiritual goes, human kindness is overflowing and i think its going to rain today... under the Great Spirit, I hold my head high tonight... shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:29:28 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua,NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:31:18 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua, njc oops about the last post! could someone translate shanes post for this alabama girl. it is way over my head! i tried, but do not understand what the point is. kammy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:39:46 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: apologia pro vita sua > i can tell you with certainty that there has been a woeful decline in > integrity in such circles of so-called 'expertise', rather similar to the > genesis of the decline when it occurred in germany's ivory towers just before > the rise of Hitler...there are consequences to intellectual dishonesty... > churchill saw the gathering storm...and there is a gathering storm on the > horizon today too... Let me get this straight. Is this in any way directed at the other people involved in the "heart healer" discussion? It would seem to be so, judging by the recipient list. > this then has been an exercise in prejudice against classical and orthodox > christianity...and i would have hoped for more from fans of joni mitchell... > as the old spiritual goes, There's two issues here: while it seems clear that you are actually targetting this to specific people, your addressing it to a wide audience does rather tar all with the same brush. I think, somehow, that that's in appropriate. That part of your post irked me personally. Secondly, the people to whom you've directed this don't deserve your scorn. Who are _you_ to tell them how _they_ can interpret their religion, whatever it may be? Tip: name-dropping Oxford doesn't help either, partcularly in the UK. For one expressing his own dispair at the pervieved intolerance of others, you post goes a long way to making you yourself look intolerant, I'm afraid. I suggest you sit down with a cup of tea, count slowly to ten, and re-read what you wrote. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:09:55 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Yup. As the final credits role you find our heroes on crosses being crucified while they sing- "Always look on the bright side of life." A golden moment in cinematic history. Kate Bennett wrote: > wasn't that a Monty Python movie...i need to watch it > again...******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:37:57 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) "We can walk our road together, If our goals are all the same. We can run alone and free, If we pursue a different aim. Let the Truth of Love be lighted, The Love of Truth shine clear. Sensibility, armed with sense and liberty, With the Heart and Mind united, In a perfect, single sphere." N.Peart Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:52:57 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Remember the tags, please Folks, for everyone's sanity, let's please remember our NJC tags. Recent posts on Jesus and the Middle East, and some assorted chatty stuff, have omitted the tag. With 800 subscribers, the NJC system is really important. Thanks for listening. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:16:07 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua Dear Shane: I must confess I am not sure what you are saying to me. However, if you are feeling that I am intolerant of you, you could not be more incorrect. Peace.......Sharon > shane mattison wrote: > > how intolerant the 'tolerant' can be, of my opinion..."scholarly > exegesus" can be an excuse for not searching...i am not some > fundamentalist nor evangelical as some of you tried to intolerantly > paint me...but i did study scripture at the highest level of this > so-called "exegesus", namely my tutor was the Principal of Pusey > House, Oxford... > i can tell you with certainty that there has been a woeful decline in > integrity in such circles of so-called 'expertise', rather similar to > the genesis of the decline when it occurred in germany's ivory towers > just before the rise of Hitler...there are consequences to > intellectual dishonesty... > churchill saw the gathering storm...and there is a gathering storm on > the horizon today too... > it gets tedious to hear how absolute are those who argue against the > existence of absolute truth... > i also believe that if i, with the good will which i did have, had > been of any other world religion...my opinion would have been laudibly > treated, not judged...it should make someone wonder why this is so... > psychologically, you've thrown alot of projection on me...but i'm not > buying it, and i have a right to not be judged by anyone as much as a > buddhist or a muslim...and not treated as a fool... > i have stayed at zen centers and studied and spent time in native > american ceremonies...if they tell me something that is sacred to > them, i treat it as sacred...i do not heap on them a volley of > outrageous statements demeaning their expertise nor their motives... > this then has been an exercise in prejudice against classical and > orthodox christianity...and i would have hoped for more from fans of > joni mitchell... > as the old spiritual goes, > > human kindness is overflowing > and i think its going to rain today... > > under the Great Spirit, I hold my head high tonight... > > shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:11:21 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Religion and politics SJC Whoaa! After reading many of the recent posts around here, I recall my mother's sage advice - never discuss politics or religion, stick to sex because everyone likes that. In that vein, who is Joni boffing these days? Sybil going back to lurking now _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:23:50 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC > first Catherine McKay wrote: > > > < don't know about that left-handed stuff - kinda spooky > (it's a joke, OK? Many of my friends are > left-handed...)>> then Bill wrote: > > < > (According to a t-shirt walking past The Coop in Harvard Square back in > the 70s ...)>> which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left or right handed on the list? I'm a righty , although I have been known to be an 'ambi', depends upon the task, especially in my new job which involves a lot of manipulation with both hands. And I stand in close circles with lefties...so Im not sure what that says about me ;-) Mags > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:45:02 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC holding up left hand me me me me Mags wrote: > > > first Catherine McKay wrote: > > > > > > < > don't know about that left-handed stuff - kinda spooky > > (it's a joke, OK? Many of my friends are > > left-handed...)>> > > then Bill wrote: > > > > > < > > > (According to a t-shirt walking past The Coop in Harvard Square back in > > the 70s ...)>> > > which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left > or right handed on the list? I'm a righty , although I have been known to > be an 'ambi', depends upon the task, especially in my new job which > involves a lot of manipulation with both hands. And I stand in close > circles with lefties...so Im not sure what that says about me ;-) > > Mags > > > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > -- > And this loving is a drawing close, > a tuning in, an opening. > Until one perfect moment; > but how can it be expressed? > A receiving, an enfolding > as I cradle you in my arms. > Within my heart, within my soul, > You are my true love. > > --Lui Collins > > --- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:01:30 +0800 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: The Meaning Of Life > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:59:44 EDT > From: Relayer211@aol.com > Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) > > I am always thinking and wondering about the point and meaning of life on > this planet...It's very hard for me to understand. Does anyone have any ideas? Wow. This list isn't like Trivial Pursuit at all, is it? Seen some interesting answers to this come up already. But they all address a small part of the question, I think. Or, at least they really answer this question, "What is the meaning of MY life/our lives?" What about the rest of it though? What is the meaning of a pig's life, a daffodil's life, a microbe's life? The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy starts off with the words, "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how hugely, vastely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you might think it's a long walk down to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to Space." There is an aweful lot of it out there, getting on with stuff quite without reference to us. So my question is not so much 'what is the meaning of My life', but, 'What's The Rest Of It for?". To date, I have heard no convincing answer. Cast me into the Total Perspective Vortex! Martin. In London. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:27:02 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) See - I marked it NJC! Apologies (Deb) for any I forgot to mark as such... > There is an aweful lot of it out there, getting on with stuff quite without > reference to us. So my question is not so much 'what is the meaning of My > life', but, 'What's The Rest Of It for?". To date, I have heard no > convincing answer. Good point. My personal take on things is that there has to be some higher purpose or entity or reason for being, if you see what I mean. But I can't easily believe that this higher /something/ is that bothered about me personally or the planet on which I live. Disclaimer: this is my own opinion. It does not lessen the validity of any other person's belief about the way the universe works, or why it or we are here. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:33:26 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: The Meaning Of Life(NJC) > > I am always thinking and wondering about the point and meaning of life > on > > this planet...It's very hard for me to understand. Does anyone have any > ideas? I think it is hard to understand because everything seems to be built around paradoxes...light and dark, night and day, life and death, the heart and the mind...all these equal and opposite things that seem to completely at odds with each other and yet are interwoven together so finely that it seems impossible to separate them from each other. It's that space between (like in the DM song) where you have to go I think to get some kind of grip on it. Where night becomes day and day becomes night, "the sky was yellow and the sun was blue"...what the heart feels sometimes defies all logic and logic so often seems to seek to destroy the heart...and there is really no answer but all answers are valid. It seems to me that everyone possesses something so pure and beautiful that can be so easily tainted and damaged if you are not careful and yet it is by experience only that we are able to learn and grow. But by nourishing that place within you, you come closer to understanding, and you can more easily accept, that you really don't understand at all. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Sometimes I start to read a post without looking to see who wrote it and I can often guess who did without looking at the name. Colin, your particular typos really make you stand out (in a good way, of course!) - --- colin wrote: "their puprose is to procrreate" Is one of your dogs in heat again by any chance? LOL. - ----------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:37:59 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC Me three!!!!!! I do EVERYTHING with my left hand "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > holding up left hand me me me me > > Mags wrote: > > which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left > > or right handed on the list? Brei - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) - --- slarty wrote: > Yup. As the final credits role you find our heroes > on crosses being > crucified > while they sing- "Always look on the bright side of > life." > A golden moment in cinematic history. > > Kate Bennett wrote: > > > wasn't that a Monty Python movie...i need to watch > it > > > again...******************************************** Just reading about it is giving me the giggles. Who wrote about the meaning of liff? Was it John Lennon? - --------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:48:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC - --- Mags wrote: > > then Bill wrote: > > > > > < right minds, doncha know? > > > > (According to a t-shirt walking past The Coop in > Harvard Square back in > > the 70s ...)>> > > which leads me to a very good question on this > sunday morn .... who is left > or right handed on the list? I'm a righty , although > I have been known to > be an 'ambi', depends upon the task, especially in > my new job which > involves a lot of manipulation with both hands. > I'm a righty but, like you, there are some things I do left-handed, esp. in sports. This may be one possible explanation why I'm usually so bad at them (plus my depth perception is sometimes a little wonky, probably due to astigmatism). People were always telling me I batted *wrong* (in baseball) because I would often bat left. We used to play croquet as kids and I tended to do this *backwards* too, but it felt right (left?) to me. Lately, I've been playing soccer or catch with my son, and I kick/throw with both feet/hands (I like to challenge myself - some of us get our kicks in the strangest ways!) Kicking and throwing left is a lot easier than writing with my left hand, which makes my brain hurt, but I like to practice every now and then, just in case I ever break my right arm or wrist - weird contingency thing - what'll I do if I fall and break them both?) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:51:53 +0800 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) Oooops! Sorry for not tagging the NJC > There is an aweful lot of it out there, getting on with stuff quite without > reference to us. So my question is not so much 'what is the meaning of My > life', but, 'What's The Rest Of It for?". To date, I have heard no > convincing answer. Martin. In London. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:53:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) - --- Chris Marshall wrote: > Disclaimer: this is my own opinion. It does not > lessen the validity of > any other person's belief about the way the universe > works, or why it > or we are here. > Except for one thing, Chris - you're WRONG! Not right, not left, just plain WRONG! (It's a joke, it's a joke, it's a joke.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:00:09 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC Brei: Mags and I discovered we were switched in school...made to write with our right hands...I told her I thought we could pen a new self help book together... "Righties are from Goofy" "Ambi's are from the Chicago 7" or "Ambi and healthy...how you too can improve your sex life" Peace.......Sharon Brian Gross wrote: > > Me three!!!!!! > > I do EVERYTHING with my left hand > > "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > > > holding up left hand me me me me > > > > Mags wrote: > > > which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left > > > or right handed on the list? > > Brei > -- > After twenty-three years you'd think I could find > A way to let you know somehow > That I want to see your smiling face > Forty-five years from now. > > --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:06:57 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC Catherine...I always love your posts. LOL I wonder what Joni is? Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mags wrote: > > > > > then Bill wrote: > > > > > > > > < > right minds, doncha know? > > > > > > (According to a t-shirt walking past The Coop in > > Harvard Square back in > > > the 70s ...)>> > > > > which leads me to a very good question on this > > sunday morn .... who is left > > or right handed on the list? I'm a righty , although > > I have been known to > > be an 'ambi', depends upon the task, especially in > > my new job which > > involves a lot of manipulation with both hands. > > > I'm a righty but, like you, there are some things I do > left-handed, esp. in sports. This may be one possible > explanation why I'm usually so bad at them (plus my > depth perception is sometimes a little wonky, probably > due to astigmatism). People were always telling me I > batted *wrong* (in baseball) because I would often bat > left. We used to play croquet as kids and I tended to > do this *backwards* too, but it felt right (left?) to > me. Lately, I've been playing soccer or catch with my > son, and I kick/throw with both feet/hands (I like to > challenge myself - some of us get our kicks in the > strangest ways!) Kicking and throwing left is a lot > easier than writing with my left hand, which makes my > brain hurt, but I like to practice every now and then, > just in case I ever break my right arm or wrist - > weird contingency thing - what'll I do if I fall and > break them both?) > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:11:20 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) Okay-I don't get this post but yes, Doris is in heat and Brad and Mitchell are not going to get any so they are not happy. Catherine McKay wrote: > Sometimes I start to read a post without looking to > see who wrote it and I can often guess who did without > looking at the name. Colin, your particular typos > really make you stand out (in a good way, of course!) > > --- colin wrote: > > "their puprose is to procrreate" > > Is one of your dogs in heat again by any chance? > > LOL. > ----------------------------------------------------- > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:03:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) - --- slarty wrote: > The answer is 42, the last I heard. It may have > changed who knows. > Who cares. Perhaps I'm old and tired but I always > think that the > chances of finding out what really is going on are > so absurdly remote > that the only thing to do is say hang the sense of > it and just keep > yourself occupied. > -Words of wisdom from Slartybartfast paraphrased > from the Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy > RIP the-guy-who-wrote-that. I can never remember his name which is one of, or some combination of the following: Richard Adams Douglas Adams Douglas Copeland Richard Douglas Douglas Richard Adam Copeland and so on... Anyway, he died a short while ago, young (to me!), in his 40s. - ------------------------------------------------------ Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:14:33 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC I write right handed but eat left handed, meaning I hold my knife in my left hand. Mind that probably doesn't mean much to you Americans, having never seen an American use one!!!!! I had piano lessons as a child and gave up cos I just couldn;t get my hands to do different things at the same time. Mind you I can all finger type but too slowly so still use just two-typos and all! "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > Brei: > > Mags and I discovered we were switched in school...made to write with > our right hands...I told her I thought we could pen a new self help book > together... > "Righties are from Goofy" "Ambi's are from the Chicago 7" or > "Ambi and healthy...how you too can improve your sex life" > > Peace.......Sharon > > Brian Gross wrote: > > > > Me three!!!!!! > > > > I do EVERYTHING with my left hand > > > > "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > > > > > holding up left hand me me me me > > > > > > Mags wrote: > > > > which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left > > > > or right handed on the list? > > > > Brei > > -- > > After twenty-three years you'd think I could find > > A way to let you know somehow > > That I want to see your smiling face > > Forty-five years from now. > > > > --Stan Rogers - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:08:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC - --- "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: >I wonder > what Joni is? > Good question but my guess is she's probably right-handed (odds are). I've always wondered how lefties manage with the guitar. Any left-handed guitar players out there? Do you have to try to find a left-handed guitar, or do you have to force yourself to play right-handed? Considering some of the things you have to train your mind and hand muscles to do in any case, it may not be that much more of a stretch for a lefty to play guitar right-handed, but what would I know? - --------------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:16:06 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC I play guitar right handed...but the piano...I play that left handed. Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- "Sharon L. Buffington" > wrote: > >I wonder > > what Joni is? > > > > Good question but my guess is she's probably > right-handed (odds are). I've always wondered how > lefties manage with the guitar. Any left-handed > guitar players out there? Do you have to try to find > a left-handed guitar, or do you have to force yourself > to play right-handed? Considering some of the things > you have to train your mind and hand muscles to do in > any case, it may not be that much more of a stretch > for a lefty to play guitar right-handed, but what > would I know? > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:11:17 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu NJC I have two Fareed Haque releases- and he is an exquisite quitarist, Mr. Simon is right, of course!! Voices Rising from 1988 is the release I have with Fred playing keyboards. It's wonderful! Mr. Haque's style is unique, jazz, but certainly containing elements of classical and world music. Both are excellent recordings, and I urge you all to give a listen! Regards, Stephen in Vancouver FredNow@aol.com on 08/12/2001 12:14:50 AM Please respond to FredNow@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu NJC In a message dated 8/11/01 6:35:40 PM, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: >Re: Fareed Haque's Deja Vu, Fred wrote: >> Fareed's a buddy and musical colleague of mine. Try writing to him at >> fareed@fareed.com to see if copies exist. He may answer ... or may not. > >WOW! Fred, you sure know some of the greats. Fareed's a fellow Chicagoan, and we've played together many times. Also I played on a couple of his records, one of which has a tune of mine on it. Fareed is an extremely talented musician. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:19:25 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC LOL...some of us girls use our knives and still eat left handed...only with cloth napkins on our laps of course. I think Joni smokes left handed. I was glad to see Joni has joined the ranks of smoking American Spirits. s colin wrote: > > I write right handed but eat left handed, meaning I hold my knife in my left hand. > Mind that probably doesn't mean much to you Americans, having never seen an American > use one!!!!! > > I had piano lessons as a child and gave up cos I just couldn;t get my hands to do > different things at the same time. Mind you I can all finger type but too slowly so > still use just two-typos and all! > > "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > > Brei: > > > > Mags and I discovered we were switched in school...made to write with > > our right hands...I told her I thought we could pen a new self help book > > together... > > "Righties are from Goofy" "Ambi's are from the Chicago 7" or > > "Ambi and healthy...how you too can improve your sex life" > > > > Peace.......Sharon > > > > Brian Gross wrote: > > > > > > Me three!!!!!! > > > > > > I do EVERYTHING with my left hand > > > > > > "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > > > > > > > > holding up left hand me me me me > > > > > > > > Mags wrote: > > > > > which leads me to a very good question on this sunday morn .... who is left > > > > > or right handed on the list? > > > > > > Brei > > > -- > > > After twenty-three years you'd think I could find > > > A way to let you know somehow > > > That I want to see your smiling face > > > Forty-five years from now. > > > > > > --Stan Rogers > > -- > bw > colin > DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 > Duo80 > colin@tantra-apso.com > http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:16:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) OK, let me 'splain it for you (I guess it was a pretty lame joke!) You wrote:"their puprose is to procrreate" which you could read as "Their pup Rose is to..." the extra r in procreate was a bonus, because it has a bit of a growly doggy effect, n'est-ce pas? - --- colin wrote: > Okay-I don't get this post but yes, Doris is in heat > and Brad and > Mitchell are not going to get any so they are not > happy. > > > --- colin wrote: > > > > "their puprose is to procrreate" > > > > Is one of your dogs in heat again by any chance? > > - ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:29:00 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) I do not know Cath...I think you have extra sensory heat perception. You could go on Oprah...and demonstrate how you can get in touch with your inner puppy or kittie or colt. Gifts...I know you have gifts, Catherine. :) Catherine McKay wrote: > > OK, let me 'splain it for you (I guess it was a pretty > lame joke!) > > You wrote:"their puprose is to procrreate" > > which you could read as "Their pup Rose is to..." > > the extra r in procreate was a bonus, because it has a > bit of a growly doggy effect, n'est-ce pas? > > --- colin wrote: > > Okay-I don't get this post but yes, Doris is in heat > > and Brad and > > Mitchell are not going to get any so they are not > > happy. > > > > > --- colin wrote: > > > > > > "their puprose is to procrreate" > > > > > > Is one of your dogs in heat again by any chance? > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC - --- colin wrote: > I write right handed but eat left handed, meaning I > hold my knife in my left hand. > Mind that probably doesn't mean much to you > Americans, having never seen an American > use one!!!!! > You mean Americans don't use knives? I thought you were talking about the business of how many Americans cut their food, fork in left hand, knife in right; then switch the fork to the right hand to pick up the food. I was taught the non-switching way, to keep the fork in the left hand all the time - it's a lot easier than constantly putting the knife down and switching hands. > I had piano lessons as a child and gave up cos I > just couldn;t get my hands to do > different things at the same time. That's a matter of teaching your brain and muscles to work together at something they're not used to doing - with practice and concentration, you would get it at some point. The thing I'm working on right now (for guitar-playing) is to get the ring finger and the pinky to work independently and stop trying to hang out together all the time - they just want to be together all the time! So I'll sit on the subway, flicking my fingers back and forth, probably looking like a weirdo, but there are worse things I could be doing. Try it sometime - you'll see what I mean. - -------------------------------------------------- NP Keb' Mo' - I'm telling you now - ------------------------------------------------ Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:35:23 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC The thing I'm working on right now (for guitar-playing) is to get the ring finger and the pinky to work independently and stop trying to hang out together all the time - they just want to be together all the time! So I'll sit on the subway, flicking my fingers back and forth, probably looking like a weirdo, but there are worse things I could be doing. Try it sometime - you'll see what I mean. ummmmmmmmmm....well Catherine..when you have webbed fingers you have to make the best of it. Webbed is beautiful. Flicking fingers...do you sign? :) Careful...you may say something naughty. Of course at the Fest you can be as naughty as you want...especially around Wally and Jimmy. I have heard stories. My hair was straight. It is curly now. Peace....S Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- colin wrote: > > I write right handed but eat left handed, meaning I > > hold my knife in my left hand. > > Mind that probably doesn't mean much to you > > Americans, having never seen an American > > use one!!!!! > > > > You mean Americans don't use knives? I thought you > were talking about the business of how many Americans > cut their food, fork in left hand, knife in right; > then switch the fork to the right hand to pick up the > food. I was taught the non-switching way, to keep the > fork in the left hand all the time - it's a lot easier > than constantly putting the knife down and switching > hands. > > > I had piano lessons as a child and gave up cos I > > just couldn;t get my hands to do > > different things at the same time. > > That's a matter of teaching your brain and muscles to > work together at something they're not used to doing - > with practice and concentration, you would get it at > some point. > > The thing I'm working on right now (for > guitar-playing) is to get the ring finger and the > pinky to work independently and stop trying to hang > out together all the time - they just want to be > together all the time! So I'll sit on the subway, > flicking my fingers back and forth, probably looking > like a weirdo, but there are worse things I could be > doing. > Try it sometime - you'll see what I mean. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > NP Keb' Mo' - I'm telling you now > > ------------------------------------------------ > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:30:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC - --- "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > LOL...some of us girls use our knives and still eat > left handed...only > with cloth napkins on our laps of course. I think > Joni smokes left > handed. I was glad to see Joni has joined the ranks > of smoking American > Spirits. When I smoked, I smoked left-handed. Quit 17 yrs ago this Labour Day (yeehaw!) I listen to the phone with my right ear - some people prefer the left. My boss noticed it once and asked if I was left-handed because of that. I said, no, but I can't seem to listen properly with my left ear (even though it would make handling the phone and writing at the same time a lot easier than scrunching the phone on my right shoulder, so I'll probably just get a headset.) I then went back and did a quick survey of the people in my office to find out if the ear people listen to the phone with is related to handedness, and I found (out of the small group I asked) that it was pretty much equal - many of the right-handers also listened to the phone with their right ear, so that blows another theory all to hell! (The things I do at work instead of my job!) (I don't have any hearing problems that I'm aware of that would explain why it's "easier" for me to hear with the right ear vs the left.) - ---------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:34:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) - --- "Sharon L. Buffington" wrote: > I do not know Cath...I think you have extra sensory > heat perception. > You could go on Oprah...and demonstrate how you can > get in touch with > your inner puppy or kittie or colt. Gifts...I know > you have gifts, If I can make some money off it, what the hell? Too bad I'm so bloody ethical. - --------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:37:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lefites Of The World, Unite! NJC - --- "Sharon L. Buffington" > ummmmmmmmmm....well Catherine..when you have webbed > fingers you have to > make the best of it. Webbed is beautiful. Flicking > fingers...do you > sign? :) Careful...you may say something naughty. Incredible but true - that's one thing I DO worry about sometimes! > Of course at the > Fest you can be as naughty as you want...especially > around Wally and > Jimmy. I have heard stories. My hair was straight. > It is curly now. > Too true. The filthy pigs! and I went to Catholic school... - --------------------------------------------------- Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:37:06 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua (md) I find it both interesting and revealing that so many on the list are now telling Shane they dont understand what he just wrote. lol. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:51:41 +0800 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) One thing that leaves me dissatisfied with any 'higher power' explaination is that really it doesn't explain 'why' or 'how'. Were are left guessing the answer to the same question as we started with. My own gut feeling is that there isn't a 'higher power'. But one thing that would really make me smile would be if scientists actually come across proof of a 'creator'. (Could actually track it down and point to it and say, "There it is"). Perhaps if and when we get to that point, said deity will reveal itself fully and give us the answer to why we (and the rest of the universe) are here. Freeoow! Martin. In London. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine McKay To: Chris Marshall ; Martin Giles ; Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: RE: The Meaning Of Life (NJC) > > --- Chris Marshall wrote: > > > Disclaimer: this is my own opinion. It does not > > lessen the validity of > > any other person's belief about the way the universe > > works, or why it > > or we are here. > > > > Except for one thing, Chris - you're WRONG! Not right, > not left, just plain WRONG! > > (It's a joke, it's a joke, it's a joke.) > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:14:25 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua (njc) > I find it both interesting and revealing that so many on the list are now > telling Shane they dont understand what he just wrote. lol. I didn't understand what he was saying and I don't understand this post either. I find that very interesting. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:25:46 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: apologia pro vita sua (njc) LOL oh Victor I love you. :) Victor Johnson wrote: > > > I find it both interesting and revealing that so many on the list are now > > telling Shane they dont understand what he just wrote. lol. > > I didn't understand what he was saying and I don't understand this post > either. I find that very interesting. > > Victor > > Victor Johnson > http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, > Come when you lay down your head. > While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, > That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." > Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:26:16 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) hello, i stand corrected. between "the forceps and the stone" is love. love does put meaning into life. thanks victor for reminding me of that. take care gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "gene mock" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) > your born, you live, and then you die. that's it! it doesn't get any > better than now. so take advantage of it. later gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 7:59 PM > Subject: The Meaning of Life?(NJC) > > > > I am always thinking and wondering about the point and meaning of life > on > > this planet...It's very hard for me to understand. Does anyone have any > ideas? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #345 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?