From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #329 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, August 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 329 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Thoughts ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] RE: "some guy named Art" njc ["Deb Messling" ] Re: Covers, Volume 20 [FMYFL@aol.com] Hear Me Roar!! (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] home decorating njc ["kerry" ] Re: Covers, Volume 20 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC Beatles (covers) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Today in Joni History: August 3 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Subject: america and me - njc ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Joni's Satanic Influences [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] kickin' round yorkville ["shane mattison" ] Re: NJC Beatles (covers) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: NJC Beatles (covers) [Jerry Notaro ] joni rising ["shane mattison" ] joni's guitars ["shane mattison" ] more incriminating material....hehe [BachelorNumero2@aol.com] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [colin ] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Ape"-alled njc [jan gyn ] JONIFEST VIDEOS!!!!!! [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: more incriminating material....hehe ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: [Fwd: Re: "Ape"-alled njc] [Jason Maloney ] Re: "Ape"-alled njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: [Jonifest2001] JONIFEST VIDEOS!!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Today in Joni History: August 3 [Mark Domyancich ] Re: NJC Beatles (covers) ["Kakki" ] Once in a while .. ["William Waddell" ] Re: NJC Beatles (covers) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] RE: "Ape"-alled njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Subject: RE: Jonatha conversion (NJC) - P.S. ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: "Ape"-alled njc [colin ] Re: Subject: Re: america and me - njc [colin ] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [colin ] Re: "Ape"-alled njc [jan ] Joni's Satanic Influences ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Subject: Re: Jurassic Park 3 alert NJC [colin ] Re: more incriminating material....hehe [colin ] Re: Joni's Satanic Influences ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: REALLY "Ape"-alled njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Joni's Satanic Influences NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Fwd: 809 [MDESTE1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:17:41 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Thoughts Into nose candy at such an early age! Just to let everyone know about my dislike for movie theaters, I found out some info from my mother today which had completely escaped my mind. I was only 5 at the time, but my parents had taken me to the movies. (I guess they couldn't find a baby sitter.) Anyway, half way through the movie, I started screaming at the top of my lungs. My Dad took me to the lobby and discovered that I had stuck a "red hots" piece of candy up my nose. The inside of my nose/brain was on fire. Dad managed to get me to blow my nose real hard to dislodge the damn piece of candy. My siblings still tease me about this embarrassing incident. Yes this *is* a true story, just as my first sexual experience was at age 6 with Marisa up in the mango tree. :~) Jimmy (taking truth serum this evening) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:30:23 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: "some guy named Art" njc Sorry, Wally -- he's taken. > > oh deb!!!!! can i meet him?????? > wallyK > I think of my cousin Art, with a comb-over bald hairdo and a beer > belly. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:16:23 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 20 In a message dated 8/1/01 1:54:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > . This volume is dedicated to great jazz covers of Joni's stuff, and frankly > I think the whole damn thing is sensational! > Bob, this truly is a great compilation of Joni covers and thanks so much for sending it to me. My absolute favorite, and the cover I've been waiting for is Benny Goodman playing "Both Sides Now". I swear that man could have played ANY song and it would be great. My Dad loved Goodman so much, I think I remember listening to his music while breast feeding. I think Mom even had a reed stuck to her nipple :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:51:03 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Hear Me Roar!! (NJC) Hell wrote: <> Back from vacation, and a week behind in Joni mail, but wanted to chime in with a very belated Happy Birthday to Kerry and Susan, and anyone else I missed so far. Also, to answer your question Hell, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course Leo is the VERY BEST star sign, AND....... ALL the wonderful people are born under this sign, AND..... if you are coming to Jonifest and don't want to hear this lion ROOOOOOAR........ you'd better get your questionnaires, pictures, checks and food forms to me ASAP!!!!! The deadline has gone by!! Hugs, Ashara {batting eyelashes demurely} ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:17:07 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: home decorating njc Catherine wrote: >>Fondue is back, baby--Cheese is >>in the air! So THAT'S why it's been so muggy in the midwest lately!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:23:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 20 <> Agreed...and I was afraid that this would be very mundane, and I was dead wrong! Great sound, and Benny's clarinet is exquisite and swings! Unfortunately, a lot of great musicians have played BSN to little effect, but Goodman & band really nail it, I think. When I was in college at NC State I went to see Goodman in Greensboro, about an hour away. My friends couldn't believe I was going, but I just said "Are you kidding! It's BENNY-FREAKIN'-GOODMAN!!" When you have the chance to see a legend, you go. Bob NP: Thom MacFarlane, "One More Waterloo" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:28:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Beatles (covers) <<"and ya know there may be more.....">> A couple of nice ones: Harry Nilsson, "Mother Nature's Son" Joe Jackson, "Eleanore Rigby" Rickie Lee Jones, "For No One" And one awful one: Pat Benatar, "Helter Skelter" Bob, thankful that he's not trying to do a Beatles Covers Project NP: Thom MacFarlane, "Edith & The Kingpin" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:39:08 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: August 3 <> And you can tell that this was an opening show...Joni & band have a couple false starts, including Shadows & Light when she & The Persuasions are ALL singing in different keys, I think. Wisely, she stops, they start again, and it sounds much better! Also, as far as I know, this was the only show that featured a performance of "Jericho", which she played after "Woodstock" as the show's closer. She must have thought it didn't work, because it doesn't show up in any of the others I've heard. Bob NP: Bruce, "Jambalaya", 12/18/00 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:41:48 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Subject: america and me - njc > Myabe its just me but I am not so sure that most citizens of the > US think that other cultures want to be like them... I'm with Kate. I am much more interested in absorbing customs, ideas, and culture from other countries than living an "american" lifestyle, whatever that is...I hate eating fast food(my favorite food is Thai), don't like most blockbuster movies, and I am really looking forward to moving out of Atlanta into the smaller college town of Athens. Apparently, a lot of people have decided its cool to live intown again, so condos have been springing up on every vacant corner for awhile now, its becoming so so crowded, and the quality of life really seems to suffer. You end up spending half of your life just sitting in traffic. And I've never understood the appeal of living in these bedroom communities, where all the houses look like they were cut from the same cookie cutter, all the yards are perfect and look exactly the same, you drive through and never see anyone outside unless they're working in their yard, and the only places nearby are home depots, best buys, and walmarts. Completely void of any culture. Thank God for other countries. I think the real beauty of America is the way I have been able to appreciate all these different cultures. I think there are alot of people that feel like Kate and I even though so many seem to not have a clue. I feel fortunate that I have been able to live in England, Mexico, and France and all three times, stayed with actual families and got to experience more what it is really like to live there, much more than if I had just gone as a tourist which doesn't seem nearly as appealing. I remember when I first arrived in Guadalajara, Mexico in 1990, and was checking into a hotel to stay for a few days until I was hooked up with the family I would stay with. There was this retired American couple, 60ish, asking the hotel clerk if he knew where a Dunkin Donut store was. When he didn't get the answer he wanted he started speaking louder, "DUNKIN DONUT, AMERICAN DONUT STORE" as if the clerk would all of the sudden answer him in perfect english and send him on his way. There is a narrowmindedness that exists and when I am exposed to it I find it rather scary. Some of Holley's family is giving her crap just for moving one hour away to Athens, as if it's some foreign country far away. But I've been living here eight years and Atlanta has really lost its appeal to me and continues to lose more and more. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:43:59 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: just had to share this (njc) Last night I was waiting for Russ to get home from a day of golf with his sister and her husband Bruce. I'd just finished a top secret project that will be of interest to some JMDLers (more about that later) and was in the kitchen, when I heard voices. So, I looked out the window, fully expecting to see the aforementioned Bruce. I stared for a minute, trying desprately to reconcile the fact that this wasn't Bruce at all. My mind was so fixated on this, I couldn't place him. That is, until he said "But you know this lady..." Any guess who emerged from the vehicle??? Our very own Ashara!!! I apologized profusely to Sal. (And offer yet another million apologies!) I really think that ANYONE could have been standing there and my mind would still have been saying "but you're not Bruce..." So we visited for a few minutes. And I subjected them to a taste of the "secret project." We also discovered that I'd gotten take-out from the very same vegetarian restaurant where Sal and Ashara had dinner. So, we were destined to see each other last night! Well, I'm off to work on "the project" again today. Stay tuned. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:45:10 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Satanic Influences <> Thanks, Donna, what a great thing to see to start my day off...have you been talking to my Mom? :~) <> Anyone going to the Fest who wants to save themselves some postage, contact me privately and I'll have time to burn whatever you'd like and bring it along! I'll have some stuff for the "giveaway table" too, for those who have made their contributions as specified. <> And the same goes for me! Bob NP: Bruce & E-Street, "Hey, Good Lookin'" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:45:38 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: kickin' round yorkville i remember kickin' round yorkville in the late sixties like someone's younger brother...toronto's hippie village...chanting "num yoho rayee eeko" and some hippie would pass you a doobie..."cool man"... bruce farley mowat has a book review at http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_11.06.97/music/readmuch6.html on nicholas jennings' Before the Gold Rush... <> ...for those interested, a read like this would provide the 'atmosphere' for joni's real musical start...before in alberta, she didn't know what she'd end up being...in the yorkville atmoshere, she'd already decided... shane http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:47:13 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC Beatles (covers) > <<"and ya know there may be more.....">> > > A couple of nice ones: > > Harry Nilsson, "Mother Nature's Son" > Joe Jackson, "Eleanore Rigby" > Rickie Lee Jones, "For No One" And don't forget 'Eleanor Rigby' by our own Sherelle Cary Smith. Gorgeous! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:56:42 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC Beatles (covers) One of my favorite Beatles covers is I Will by Alison Kraus. Jerry NP: Ringo Starr on The Today Show- With a Little Help From My friends ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:06:20 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: joni rising cyberworld khaldea, http://www.khaldea.com/charts/jonimitchell.shtml lists joni's birth time at 10pm, further stirring the pot, making her a cancer ascendent with a further pisces midheaven... its a shame if it wasn't true, for it further deepens her obvious connection to the ocean and all little fishes like you and me, rose! shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:16:13 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: joni's guitars from jeffrey pepper rodgers there's a good summary of joni's guitar history: http://www.acousticguitar.com/issues/ag44/gear44.html and includes her comments as well on them. shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:07:52 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: more incriminating material....hehe Well.....I'm so disappointed in the Christian Rock Quiz!!!! they forgot to quote Joni's "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" "Anima Rising. Queen of queens. Wah my guilt of Eden. Wash and balance me......." "God goes up the chimney like santa claus. The good slaves love the good book, a rebel of the cause" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:09:46 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe > The good slaves love the good > book, a rebel of the cause" isn;t it ' a rebel loves a cause'? Have been hearing it wrong all these years? - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:10:36 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe <> OR, "Lesson In Survival"... Guru books-the Bible Only a reminder That you're just not good enough OR, "Same Situation" With heaven full of astronauts And the Lord on death row While the millions of his lost and lonely ones Call out and clamour to be found Yep, that Joni is definitely leading us ALL to H-E-double hockeysticks! ;~) Bob NP: Bruce, "Darlington County" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:13:45 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe <> You're right, Colin...the lyric is as you've stated. It references the James Dean film "Rebel Without a Cause", which Joni also uses a clip from in the S&L video. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:21:42 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: "Ape"-alled njc Helen Mirren's wonderful. I like Amanda Donahoe also. And Judy Davis is God. But I'm really into Charlotte Rampling- check out 'Under The Sand'. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:48:26 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: JONIFEST VIDEOS!!!!!! Hi Everyone!! Finally back from most of my summer running-around, and I'm now home and grounded. I can't believe we are T-minus 28 days until Jonifest!!! Wow! Where did the time go? It's not too late to climb on board the Express, but please let me know right away if you'd like to join us, as time is of the essence. Expect to hear a lot more about what's going on with Jonifest in the near future.....but for now, I have a question: I have made a possible deal with a friend of Sal's that does video-taping for a living. I have (I think) talked him into coming both Friday night and all day/evening on Saturday, and shooting at least 15 hours of video for Jonifest. He is willing to do this for free, and is willing to edit and make the following videos: 2 (2 hour) tapes of a Jonifest "Documentary" including candid shots, interviews, and snippets of performances. Separate tapes of full performances of each performer as well as group sing-a-longs (Maybe 4-5 full performances per video tape?) Probably a total of 4 or 5 tapes which you can pick and choose from. The deal is......he would charge a minimal amount of money, ($15 for 1-3 video tapes, $10 for 4 or more) so he can cover his costs of Master and regular video tapes as well as hopefully pay him a nominal amount for his shooting and editing time and gas to and from the venues. Frankly, I think this is a most unbelievably generous offer, but before I say yes to it, I really want to make sure enough tapes will be sold to at least cover his costs and a minimal amount for his time. Since I have done many video projects, I know the kind of time this involves, especially the editing. I would ask that people who want the video tapes actually purchase them directly as opposed to having another lister copy them. So.......I need to get a rough idea of who is interested in purchasing tapes, and roughly how many tapes you'd like. The "Documentary" will be a 2-tape package deal, (please count them as 2 tapes when you answer this) and the other tapes will be able to be purchased separately. You will NOT be held to this, I just want to get a rough estimate to see if it will be worth his while to do this. These tapes will be a wonderful memory for those that are attending, and a great way for those that were not able to make it to be part of the festivities. If you are interested in the tapes, please e-mail me privately with the number of video tapes you might be interested in purchasing as soon as possible, so I can let him know whether it is a "go." Thanks, everyone! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:13:28 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe In carrying on in the traditions of not 'nice' this was included in the "Complaint": Unable to mend her ways, it is alleged that Defendant, a strict Buddhist, responded to the proselytizing efforts of a street corner evangelist, stating "Get outta my face, Sicko, you are NO Buddhist, and get a haircut!" The evangelist was so deeply scarred by this encounter that today he ministers only to small animals and insects. Having fun in Wisconsin........Sharon SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > <> > > OR, "Lesson In Survival"... > > Guru books-the Bible > Only a reminder > That you're just not good enough > > OR, "Same Situation" > > With heaven full of astronauts > And the Lord on death row > While the millions of his lost and lonely ones > Call out and clamour to be found > > Yep, that Joni is definitely leading us ALL to H-E-double hockeysticks! ;~) > > Bob > > NP: Bruce, "Darlington County" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:24:16 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: REALLY "Ape"-alled njc hell wrote: > > I have to admit, I love the POTA (sorry, Catherine) series. So much > that I bought the box-set of all 5 movies (warning - don't bother with > the last two, and even the third is pushing it). Hell, I also have the 5-film boxset (I got it for nothing through a mail-order offer), but would gently argue that the 3rd, 4th and 5th POTA movies did have their moments, and a place in the overall story arc, even though the franchise could have ended quite perfectly with the 2nd film. For reasons why, you might like to check out the following piece on the entire POTA saga from my website : http://freespace.virgin.net/jason.maloney/Planet_Of_The_Apes.html Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:46:37 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: "Ape"-alled njc] Brenda J. Walker wrote: > > Jason Maloney wrote: > > > I'm lost in music almost more than ever once again, but too many of > > the acts I have been listening to would probably draw blank > > expressions.... > > Give it a try. I'd be curious to hear about anything that has someone > lost in music more than ever! Hi Brenda, Okay then....well, a quick glance at my website in recent weeks would mean most of these acts might sound familiar, but it would be interesting to see what reaction their mention will get on here, with the wide diversity of listers in terms of demographics, geography and musical inclinations. Zero 7 - Simple Things (reminiscent of Air's Moon Dafari and Groove Armada's Vertigo) Faithless - Outrospective (3rd and best album from Rollo & co.) Elbow - Asleep In The Back (includes the stunning Powder Blue) Gorillaz - Gorillaz (big in Blighty, but are they making noises further afield yet?) Tricky - Blowback (a return to form for the ex-Massive Attackster) Various Artists - Cafe Del Mar Vol.8 (mellow compilation of ambient-flavoured pop/dance, pure summer) Turin Brakes - The Optimist (entrenched itself as one of the year's outstanding albums, let alone debuts). Train - Drops Of Jupiter (massive, or so we are told, in the US of late, it's nothing new but still a very pleasing collection of soft-rock with occasional rusitc touches, as on the gorgeous Mississippi). In addition to these, many more recognizable names have been delighting with recent or brand new material - REM, Prefab Sprout and The Human League to name just three. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:02:28 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ape"-alled njc In a message dated 03/08/01 18:43:21 GMT Daylight Time, jgyn@muse.sfusd.edu writes: << Helen Mirren's wonderful. I like Amanda Donahoe also. And Judy Davis is God. But I'm really into Charlotte Rampling- check out 'Under The Sand'. >> Hey, a name check for Judy Davis - excellent! She's unfailingly good in everything I've seen her in. I'm particularly fond of her marvellous performance in Woody Allen's Husbands & Wives; she stole that film from under the noses of a lot of great actors. And Helen Mirren? Yeah, a class act, she IS Jane Tennyson, whoever they cast in the film version will have a big shadow to step out of. She was superb in The Long Good Friday, also notable for featuring Bob Hoskins in his least cuddly role - like Luka Brasi, he's a scary guy! But Amanda Donohoe rules my thespian world, and not just for the obvious reasons - this woman is a seriously good actor, often the best thing in otherwise poor enterprises (The Rainbow, Lair of the White Worm, Diamond Skulls), and holding her own in a strong cast in LA Law. I remember the first time I saw her, in a TV series called Game Set & Match (based on Len Deighton Spy novels, I think) in the mid 80s. I was smitten from the word go! Azeem in London PS: Yes Jason, Faithless are great! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:11:16 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe They also forgot "playing like a devil wearing wings" and "the bright red devil who keeps me in this tourist town" and "devil of cruelty," among others. Hey, maybe they're onto something . . . --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:16:15 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: [Jonifest2001] JONIFEST VIDEOS!!!!!! dear mama lion, count me in for the whole package!!!!! wallyK, by the volume i'm playing salome's final scene, my neighbors can tell a new jonifest is coming up and i'm in the mood. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:19:18 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: August 3 And what a shitty audience was at this show! Joni had to stop playing to ask why people were standing up (Taking pictures). She also cut short God Must Be A Boogie Man because the crowd was so loud. Plus no encores. Not the best way to start off one of the best tours. Mark At 3:00 AM -0400 8/3/01, les@jmdl.com wrote: >On August 3 in Joni Mitchell History: > >1979: Joni performs at the Oklahoma City Zoo Amphitheatre. Joni's >summer tour to promote the Mingus album began on this day in 1979. >The tour concluded 6 weeks later with five shows at the Greek >Theater in L.A. The all-star band for this tour includes Pat >Metheny, Jaco Pastorius, Lyle Mays, Don Alias, and Micheal Brecker. > >------------------------ >Search the "Today" database: >http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:21:32 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: August 3 I guess I should check out the whole thread before I reply to anything! I guess my tape is incomplete because the last song she plays is Black Crow. Pretty cool she played Jericho. Mark At 8:39 AM -0400 8/3/01, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: ><Theater in L.A. The all-star band for this tour includes Pat >Metheny, Jaco Pastorius, Lyle Mays, >Don Alias, and Micheal Brecker.>> > >And you can tell that this was an opening show...Joni & band have a >couple false starts, including Shadows & Light when she & The >Persuasions are ALL singing in different keys, I think. Wisely, she >stops, they start again, and it sounds much better! > >Also, as far as I know, this was the only show that featured a >performance of "Jericho", which she played after "Woodstock" as the >show's closer. She must have thought it didn't work, because it >doesn't show up in any of the others I've heard. > >Bob > >NP: Bruce, "Jambalaya", 12/18/00 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:53:49 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Beatles (covers) Bob, Have you ever picked up "Come Together - America Salutes The Beatles?" It's a really great compilation by some of the best country artists around. They do a surprisingly good and unique take on the songs. Everyone I've played it for rushed out to get their own copy. My favorite on the album is the cover of "All My Loving" by Suzy Bogguss and Chet Atkins - just a classic. Kakki NP: Mingus Dynasty - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat from Covers Vol. 20. Thank you so much again Bob - this is really fine and it's wonderful to have a small collection from Mr. Mingus himself! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:25:25 -0500 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Once in a while .. So there I was, driving along I-10 and listening to NRH like it was the first time I'd ever heard it. To let you understand, recently, Leslie (in London) and I have been e-swapping song ideas for the fest, well chords really, and NRH turns out to be pretty straight-forward in standard tuning. Anyhoo, chez nous (my sis's place), I had been strumming and strumming and my sister says, my that's a great song. Says I, Joni. Well turns out she can't get the song out of her head despite never having heard the original. For me, if you play (perform) a song long enough in your own way it kinda becomes a I-did-it-my-way song. Not having heard NRH in a long while my version, from memory, just became NRH if you will (I wish). To the chase, I got the car today and on the spur of the mo went and bought NRH & DJRD as a surprise; she's only heard the Hissing Demos version of Dreamland. I put the NRH CD on and man it just sent tingles up my car seat. I was close on running red lights through lack of concentration. I'm all for not listening to Joni that often coz when I rediscover her, whale-oil-beef-hooked by how good she is all over again. I'm picking sis up in a few hours and can't wait to play NRH in all the enclosed audio splendour that cars allow. Continuing to play the NRH album I was reminded of how, with such ease, Joni uses "big" words; edifying, incendiary, perjured. Not your run-o-the-mill be bop a lula poetry. The list hasn't had a Top 10 anything for a while. Top ten "big"/favourite words that Joni uses and is she being pretentious by using them, or IMO just the wonder that she is? Once in a while Willy will write ... Willy the Shake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:33:23 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: NJC Beatles (covers) Kakki: Thank you for the suggestion of "Come Together". I am going to seek a copy out in the big city. Peace......Sharon Kakki wrote: > > Bob, > > Have you ever picked up "Come Together - America Salutes The Beatles?" It's > a really great compilation by some of the best country artists around. They > do a surprisingly good and unique take on the songs. Everyone I've played > it for rushed out to get their own copy. My favorite on the album is the > cover of "All My Loving" by Suzy Bogguss and Chet Atkins - just a classic. > > Kakki > > NP: Mingus Dynasty - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat from Covers Vol. 20. Thank you > so much again Bob - this is really fine and it's wonderful to have a small > collection from Mr. Mingus himself! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:07:17 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: america and me - njc Colin wrote, "The biggest difference between the USA amnd Canada for me was the distinct change in atmosphere the minute I crossed into Canada." YES!!! The very minute!!! WOW. I thought it was just me. This winter I drove from Seattle to Vancouver. Crossing the border I felt an amazing difference too. The landscape looked different & the atmosphere...the colors more golden...the feeling less rat racey & commercialized...more rural & earthy... & back in time (a good thing). I wondered if I was just imagining this but I think it was true. Been trying to write about this in a song...it is hard to put into words....btw Stephen from Vancouver was the epitome of Canadian friendliness & class...what a nice restaurant on the water he took us to! (Wally, Steve & Michelle Dulson & me) ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:28:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "Ape"-alled njc oh jan!!! you are so right. i saw under the sand two weeks ago and i can't believe rampling is almost 60. rampling is so beautifully perverse. wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de jan gyn Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Agosto de 2001 03:22 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: "Ape"-alled njc Helen Mirren's wonderful. I like Amanda Donahoe also. And Judy Davis is God. But I'm really into Charlotte Rampling- check out 'Under The Sand'. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:10:17 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: RE: Jonatha conversion (NJC) - P.S. I saw her her in SB a couple years back...it was my introduction to her music as I hadn't heard her songs before. I loved it! I remember her pretty much playing in the same open tuning & strumming with a pick. I believe it was the tour where she recorded Live because she mentioned recording her shows & that she had just been dropped by her label (or something referencing that). I wasn't paying that much attention cause I was just enjoying the show overall but this is my impression of her guitar playing. She wore a ballerina tutu...the kind that sticks out sideways! Marian wrote, "People who have seen Jonatha live could say better how she achieves her sounds. I think she uses a pick most of the time, somehow managing to pick out individual tones along with strumming and percussion. There are some songs, like Love Song, that are entirely fingerpicked, and some, like Linger, that are entirely strummed, but most seem to be a combination of picking and strumming. Because I Told You So is a good example of the combination. Would love to hear from anyone who has seen Jonatha live about this topic." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:17:23 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: Jurassic Park 3 alert NJC My son likes to remind me how I should never have taken him to see Gremlins. It scared him so much...I didn't realize that at the time...now we laugh about it. I remember seeing the Blob on TV & being terrified that it would oooze through my door when I went to sleep that night. Catherine wrote,"Some kids can deal with this better than others - I think it's a matter of really *knowing* you kids." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:04:39 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: REALLY "Ape"-alled njc > hell wrote: > > > > I have to admit, I love the POTA (sorry, Catherine) series. So much > > that I bought the box-set of all 5 movies (warning - don't bother with > > the last two, and even the third is pushing it). > > Hell, I wasn't aware there had been more than 2 POTA films. What were they? I recall POTA and RTTPOTA. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:08:15 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: "Ape"-alled njc > Hey, a name check for Judy Davis - excellent! I have seen a few films wit Judy davis and agree with you. Have not seen her in an Allen film-but then I don't watch him-can't see why he is so funny. Makes me want to hit him! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:13:56 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Subject: Re: america and me - njc Kate Bennett wrote: > Colin wrote, "The biggest difference between the USA amnd Canada for me was > the distinct > change in atmosphere the minute I crossed into Canada." > > YES!!! The very minute!!! WOW. I thought it was just me. This winter I drove > from Seattle to Vancouver. Crossing the border I felt an amazing difference > too. The landscape looked different & the atmosphere...the colors more > golden...the feeling less rat racey & commercialized...more rural & > earthy... & back in time (a good thing). I wondered if I was just imagining > this but I think it was true. if it is imagination then we shared the same delusion! I felt completely safe there. A 'lady' in montreal took me to a motel(as Montreal was full due to conventions and sports being on)as long as I drove her where she wanted to go. I thought she was very pleasant. Only later did I realise she was a 'lady of the night' and had taken me to a good time motel. However, i got a room and slept well and no disturbances at all. Everyehwre I wnet in Canada was just laid back and non threatening.(Okay Quebec was not that friendly, in the city, but was still not threatening). If I was to emigrate anywhere i think Canada would be a good choice. I'd love to see the west side next time. John has been sevral times and tells me it is stunning. And of course there is Roberto on Vancouver to go see! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:15:29 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe There is no doubt about it-Joni is not a JW and we all know that if you aren't a JW you've had it. Mind you the RC's say the same as do the BA's so........ Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > They also forgot "playing like a devil wearing wings" and "the bright red > devil who keeps me in this tourist town" and "devil of cruelty," among others. > > Hey, maybe they're onto something . . . > > --Bob - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 14:00:21 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: "Ape"-alled njc At 10:08 PM 8/3/01 +0100, colin wrote: >I have seen a few films wit Judy davis and agree with you. Have not seen her in an >Allen film-but then I don't watch him-can't see why he is so funny. Makes me want >to hit him! One of my favorite Judy Davis movies is 'The Ref', with Kevin Spacey and Denis Leary. Denis Leary plays a con who, while escaping the police, kidnap yuppie couple Davis and Spacey. Hilariously, Davis and Spacey bicker and whine so nastily with one another that Denis Leary regrets kidnapping them; kind of an updated 'Ransom of Red Chief' or something.... - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:47:36 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni's Satanic Influences Bob wrote,"Talk about funny websites! Except in this case they're serious... http://www.av1611.org/crocktst.html These people scare me. I hope they are burning all their dollar bills containing blatantly flaunted satanic symbolisms of the eye of horus above a pyramid... From the site "There's no mistaking the new age/satanic influence of the group Earth, Wind and Fire. They blatantly flaunt occult symbolism, such as the all-seeing eye of Horus, zodiac signs, pyramids, hexagrams, the Egyptian ankh, and many more on their albums. " ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:18:49 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Jurassic Park 3 alert NJC Kate Bennett wrote: > My son likes to remind me how I should never have taken him to see Gremlins. yes i would have thought Gremlins would be scary to children. I was taken to see two films as child that I still am surprised I was taken to: The Green Berets which i found very disturbing and The Music Lovers which was also disturbing tho not as much as TGB. I still rememebr the hot bath tho. In the GB it was the spikes oif the boobybtraps and the poor little dog I remember most. Not a film to take an 7-8 year old too(I know I was that age cos I saw in in Germany and I saw TML in Singapore and I didn't go to Singaore till 67 or 8. and I was born in 58) > > It scared him so much...I didn't realize that at the time...now we laugh > about it. I remember seeing the Blob on TV & being terrified that it would > oooze through my door when I went to sleep that night. > > Catherine wrote,"Some kids can deal with this better than others - I > think it's a matter of really *knowing* you kids." > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:21:12 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: more incriminating material....hehe > The evangelist was so deeply scarred by this > encounter that today he ministers only to small animals and insects. do you have the equivalent of our Royal Society For The Prevention Of Cruelty To Animals? If so, report the demon at once. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 16:21:16 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Joni's Satanic Influences Dear Kate: I wish they would give that money to the Joni site. We know how to deal with satanic interlopers. Kate Bennett wrote: > > These people scare me. I hope they are burning all their dollar bills > containing blatantly flaunted satanic symbolisms of the eye of horus above > a pyramid... > > >From the site "There's no mistaking the new age/satanic influence of the > group Earth, Wind and Fire. They blatantly flaunt occult symbolism, such as > the all-seeing eye of Horus, zodiac signs, pyramids, hexagrams, the Egyptian > ankh, and many more on their albums. " > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:30:38 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Jansch/Denny (NJC) In light of the recent discussion of Sandy Denny, I forward this which was posted on folkdj-l: Another song that has since come to mind is Bert Jansch's "Where Did My Life Go?" I haven't heard Jansch's original, but the song appears in a chilling version by Eleanor McEvoy on last year's two-disc British compilation People on the Highway: A Bert Jansch Encomium (Market Square). The song is about someone whose life is slipping away in a fog of drugs and alcohol. The liner notes say that Jansch wrote the song about Sandy Denny. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:32:49 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: REALLY "Ape"-alled njc In a message dated 8/3/01 5:14:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > I wasn't aware there had been more than 2 POTA films. What were they? I > recall POTA and RTTPOTA. > Yes Colin, there were five: POTA BTPOTA EFTPOTA COTPOTA BFTPOTA & RTTPOTA I don't think that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has a movie out yet. Jimmy (further pissing Catherine AND Mags off) :~) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:27:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni's Satanic Influences NJC Bob wrote,"Talk about funny websites! Except in this case they're serious... http://www.av1611.org/crocktst.html They appear serious...go back a page http://www.av1611.org & the link about The Satanic Roots of Rock, possibly laughable until you get to the conclusion where they seem to justify the death of John Lennon. I hope I am wrong. excerpts: "Any loving parent today would be horrified and shocked to learn that their sons and daughters are eagerly listening to such evil. Perhaps though, some may think privately, "If only we could return to the 'good old days,' with the music of the Beatles." Little do most people suspect that it was with those innocent-looking Beatles, that most of the trouble started. Modern electronic-rock music, inaugurated in the early 1960s, is, and always has been, a joint enterprise of British military intelligence and Satanic cults. " "The year 1967 marked a significant escalation in open cultural warfare against the youth of the United States. The year saw the beginning of mass, open-air rock concerts. In the two years which followed, over 4 million young people attended a series of nearly a dozen of these "festivals," becoming the victims of planned, wide-scale drug experimentation. Mind destroying hallucinogenic drugs such as PCP, STP, and the Beatles-promoted LSD, were freely distributed at these concerts. These millions of attendees would afterward return to their homes to become the messengers and promoters of the new drug culture, or what came to be called the "New Age." "The first rock festival, "The First Annual Monterey International Pop Festival," was attended by over 100,000 youngsters. The real purpose of Monterey Pop was the widespread distrubution of a new type of drugs, classified as psychedelics or hallucinogens, such as LSD. " "At Woodstock, a small town in upstate New York, nearly half a million youth gathered to be drugged and brainwashed on a farm. The victims were isolated, immersed in filth, pumped with psychedelic drugs, and kept awake continously for three straight days, and all with the full complicity of the FBI and government officials. Security for the concert was provided by a hippie commune trained in the mass distribution of LSD. Once again, it would be the networks of British military intelligence which would be the initiators. " ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:48:36 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: 809 My tech expert has a message service that warns him (and his clients) of all serious matters. This was sent to him. Its real, unfortunately. marcel deste Return-path: From: Computdctr@aol.com Full-name: Computdctr Message-ID: <6a.11871480.289c6612@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:39:46 EDT Subject: 809 To: MDESTE1@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Please note the following, and be advised to heed the warning. Barry Better to be safe then sorry, especially since this sorry comes with a high price tag. Warning - 809 Area Code Trick Can Be Extremely Costly. DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809. This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary --- especially given the way they try to get you to call. Be sure you read this & pass it on to all your friends and family so they don't get scammed! MAJOR SCAM: Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell you to call an "809" Phone Number. This is a very important issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading *extremely* quickly - can easily cost you $24,100 or more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it. We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our attention. This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lot of money. There are lots of different permutations of this scam, but HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: You will receive a message on your answering machine or pager which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be to receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute and get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,000.00. WHY IT WORKS: The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the U.S., it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a "pay-per-call" number. There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, whereas many U.S. phones have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, 900 number blocking will not prevent calls to the 809 area code. We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize and/or investigate further and just disregard the message. Be wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong. Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam. Things are about to get worse, because that infamous off-shore area code (809) is in the process of breaking up into smaller ones. Soon, you will have to think twice about calling any of the following area codes: 242, 246, 264, 268, 284, 345, 441, 473, 664, 758, 767 784, 787, 868, 869, 876 as well as 809. For non-believers - Please visit these websites!! National Fraud Information Center http://www.fraud.org/ AT&T's fraud information page http://www.att.com/fraud/home.html#three ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #329 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?