From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #321 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 31 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 321 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: being calm and relaxed(NJC) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! ["Brenda J. Walker" ] july 30/who knows where the time goes [vljc] [dsk ] Re: some news [Janet Hess ] july 31!!!!!!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:58:33 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: being calm and relaxed(NJC) 5) Walking a golf course at 7:30pm on a summer day, enjoying daylight savings time. Not giving a care to what I score and in fact I dont even keep it. Fresh air, hitting the little ball far or accurately, into the blue. But mostly just enjoying the walk. I could think about work if I wanted to and of course theres all the myths about doing business on a golf course but its mostly smack talk or insults and jibes from friends. But truly tons and tons of fun. 4) Put on the earphones, assemble the SG and all the pedals, insert external guitar system into my studio mixing board and with all the effects I play along with my favorite bands. Sing with them as well. I dare to say that when you are playing Politician along with Eric Clapton, Money For Nothing along with Dire Straits, or Sharp dressed Man along with ZZ Topp and or even singing a duet with Joni herself its virtually impossible to think about anything else and threreby totally relaxing. This form of relaxation is limitless since any album can be put into a system so you can play with anyone you want any time you want. Another bonus point is provided by the fact that your neighbors have no idea you are having so much fun. 3) Art museums (for me) filled with realist and impressionist and California and Hudson River school masterpieces. Natural History museums filled with ancient things to imagine the world the object existed in. 2) Any Cafe in Rome or Paris. All day with wine and salads and coffees. 1) Playing baseball. I actually cant play in games anymore because my ankles are gone but I can still hit and still take ground balls. There is nothing quite like batting practice and coaching kids is a time to treasure. Watching them develop as the season goes by. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:05:04 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! Beyonce is that most unfortunate screamer from Destiny's Child. AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 31/07/01 00:57:40 GMT Daylight Time, Lazyasz@aol.com > writes: > > << Also > on the cover are Beyonce, Beck, Bowie, Maxwell, Stevie Wonder, and Jewel > (?!?). >> > > Beyonce?? Who the jiggins is that? Oh dear, this is clearly a sign that I'm > getting old. > > Azeem in very hot London, smarting from the devastating news that that > marvellous "This is a lighthouse, your call" story is false (thanks to one of > my fave websites, www.snopes.com for that info) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:19:37 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! Maxwell is worth a listen. Check out his MTV Unplugged stuff. Very soulful. He does a great cover of Kate Bush's "This Woman's Work." Brenda Catherine McKay wrote: > --- AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 31/07/01 00:57:40 GMT Daylight > > Time, Lazyasz@aol.com > > writes: > > > > << Also > > on the cover are Beyonce, Beck, Bowie, Maxwell, > > Stevie Wonder, and Jewel > > (?!?). >> > > > > Beyonce?? Who the jiggins is that? Oh dear, this > > is clearly a sign that I'm > > getting old. > > > > Never mind. Who the hell is Maxwell? All I can think > of is Maxwell Smart, or Maxwell Edison majoring in > medicine. That makes me old too. > > Believe it or not I've heard of Beyonce - there are > accents on the Es and you pronounce it (something > like) Bee-YON-see (or maybe it's bay-YON-say. She's > one of the Destiny's Child people (don't ask me which > one, that's going too far). I'm fascinated and > repulsed by the name. what the heck is a beyonce > anyhoo? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:41:52 -0100 From: "Dave Hinkel" Subject: newbie greeting & inevitable request Hello musical folks, Just stumbled onto this site to my great accidental pleasure. And just received my first digest...so i guess i really should wait an appropriate interval, but i'll ask anyway..... anyone out there willing to share the cd tree or any of the past tape trees? Ok, ok next time i'll write about the history of my Joni fandom and my only time of seeing her live (Philadelphia 1972 or 73, with Jackson Brown opening) thanks from an old newbie - --- telecaster46@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:23:08 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: newbie greeting & inevitable request There are tons of people who will be happy to trade CDs with you (except Bob M., who hoards the best stuff and won't share with anybody, right?). BUT the price of trading is to tell us your stories, so give 'em up, pronto! Welcome to the list. > anyone out there willing to share the cd tree or any of the past > tape trees? - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:31:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie greeting & inevitable request << anyone out there willing to share the cd tree or any of the past tape trees? >> Welcome, Dave! Boy, you don't waste any time, do you? ;~) I've got all the treed stuff, and have it converted to CD if you prefer that over tapes. So, as Joni would say, "Talk to Me"! Bob NP: Chelsea Morning from 1969 PBS-TV, coincidentally enough... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:11:49 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Jonatha,Nancy Griffith,Joni on TV The Conan show is a repeat but definitely worth watching...Sting is on it too. He doesn't sing but does some pretty funny stuff with Conan. Randy Remote wrote: > Jonatha Brooke will be musical guest on Late Night with Conan > O'Brien tonight. - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com http://www.mylexxus.com/welcome.asp?site=goldenfig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:52:40 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes In a message dated 7/30/01 2:26:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, djb@binkleybarfield.com writes: > Goes > > > At 12:47 PM 7/30/01 -0500, Donna J. Binkley wrote: > >That's right it was written by Sandy Denny! Man I need to dig that out > >again and I'll definitely being getting Nancy's version as I've been a > great > >fan of hers forever as well. Thanks Jerry! db > > Wasn't she an actress in the 60s? > -jan The actress was Sandy Dennis, who starred in quite a few movies including Up the Down Staircase, the original Sweet November and The Out-of Towners. Ms. Dennis died in November 1992 of ovarian cancer. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:11:19 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes njc > The actress was Sandy Dennis, who starred in quite a few movies including Up > the Down Staircase, the original Sweet November and The Out-of Towners. Ms. > Dennis died in November 1992 of ovarian cancer. > She was also in two of my favorite movies, 'Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf' and 'Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean'. A truly remarkable actress. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:27:37 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: Re: some news Anne! I wish this was not true. My thoughts are with you always. Keeping my fingers crossed also ... as ever, Heather At 12:14 PM 7/30/01 -0400, Anne Sandstrom wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I've been putting off sending this email until I knew more. Well, I don't >know much more, but here goes. It looks like I'm probably (90% probability) >having a recurrence of the cancer. My tumor marker number has been going up >slowly for the past 6 months. It's been outside the normal range the last 3 >times. So, even though they can't see it yet, it's probably there. The week >after next I'll have a different type of scan (PET scan) to see what they >see with that. To be honest, it would take a major miracle for this to be >something else. > >At any rate, you've all been so supportive of me, I thought you should know. >And I'm not sure what's going to happen in the next few weeks, whether I'll >have surgery (likely) and when. So, I'm still hoping it works out that I'm >able to go to JoniFest. I'll keep my fingers crossed... > >as always... >lots of love >Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 01:33:35 -0400 From: dsk Subject: july 30/who knows where the time goes [vljc] Thanks so much everyone for your birthday greetings, public and private and somewhere in between!! They gave me lots of smiles, which is a very welcome gift since it feels like I had a birthday, oh, maybe six months ago. At this rate, I'd better stop sleeping.... How nice, too, to see mention of one of my favorite songs, especially today when I'm struck by the very same time-rushing feeling Sandy Denny wrote about. So I'm now listening to her live version... what a wonderful voice she has! This song seems hopeful to me tonight (must be the beer I had and all that potent hot tea as a chaser :-). Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving But how can they know it's time for them to go? Before the winter fire, I will still be dreaming I do not count the time Who knows where the time goes? Who knows where the time goes? Sad, deserted shore, your fickle friends are leaving Ah, but then you know it's time for them to go But I will still be here, I have no thought of leaving I have no thought of time For who knows where the time goes? Who knows where the time goes? And I'm not alone while my love is near me I know it will be so until it's time to go So come the storms of winter and then the birds in spring again I do not fear the time For who knows how my love grows? And who knows where the time goes? This is reminding me of Joni's Urge for Going, with the mention of birds and fire and winter and inevitable going. I find Joni's song very mournful too. Hearing this also reminds me of an enjoyable evening months ago at Fez (hi Alison! hi Jeff!) and hearing Irish singer Susan McKeown end the show with this song. Her emotional rendition was in my head for weeks. What a great song! Debra Shea NP: Sandy Denny, Gold Dust concert, Who knows... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:33:48 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: and sometimes there'll be sorrow. njc, long and then you suddenly remember you have some very close friends here who love you and miss your crazy posts when they are not forthcoming. Keep up the spirit and thank God you have the work and we will party down in Topsfield. Paz on 7/29/01 8:59 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu at jlhommedieu@dmrinteractive.com wrote: > Great post, Mags. > > It will come as no surprise to anyone who's been on the List for a while > that I've been thinking about 'sorrow' lately. > > ("sad smile, her apology. > Sad eyes, reaching for the door. > This is my opening farewell." > > > Ooops. Wrong poet.) > > When Karen left I hit that ole debilitating tailspin. It almost killed > me. Mercifully, like the aftermath of a nuclear strike, the intense > heat and radiation has subsided into your garden variety dust and rubble > in the form of "sorrow". What I feel on a daily basis is what you > alluded to Mags. Anyway, lately, Shawn Colvin has been resonating in my > head, like her buzzing, nasal voice. Her solo piano and voice repeating > this (paraphrased) > > "<<< I have this funny ache > > an' it's burning in my chest > > an' it spreads just like a fire inside my body...... > > is it something God left out? > > .... in my spirit? > > or my flesh? > > Would I be saved if I were brave and had a baby? > > > It was > never clear what would come next > but that's the risk > and that's the test. > > > > And no one ever talks about > when one might *stop and need to rest* > Or how long you sit alone before you stop looking back > (like you're waiting for Godot) > before you pick your sorry ass up off the floor and > > ....... > ....... go?" <<<<<<<<<<< > > Shawn Colvin > from "If I Were Brave" from her wonderful and highly recommended > "A Few Small Repairs" > see more at www.shawncolvin.com , naturally! But when reading lyrics, > remember the immortal words of my fellow native of New York State's Long > Island who observed, > > "There's a new band in town > but ya can't > get the sound > from a story in a magazine." > > jeees, she does a nice job on that quote. Beside the fact that > "next/risk/test" is a masterful triplet, she captures that hinge point > when you've been down a long, long, long time, when you've perseverated > enough, when you've run out of self pity. There's a weird little > release moment when one realizes, 'yeah, my life is sad. very sad.... > but I better do the _laundry_ before it's too late today." :) It's a > blessing of a parasite- the weekly routine. > > > Lama, who's been working 57 hours/week for 5 months. (Before Marcel > asks why anyone would do such a thing, I'll answer: one word, Marcel: > poverty) > > P.S. As jmdler Bryan Thomas observed on "Radio Plastic Jennifer", > > 'if the shit ain't killed us > > we must be stronger.' > > > Nice job Bryan. (He's not wholly *convinced* you understand- he's > taking it on *faith* that "we" are stronger.) > > > P.P.S.S. > I love to write for you guys. > > P.P.P.S.S.S. > As a wise sage (ME!) used to say daily, > "Tolerance, tolerance, tolerance" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:39:07 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: some news Anne Keep up the positive force as it can squelch this damn thing. You have my undying support and know that I will keep you in jy thoughts and prayers and truly am one that believes that YOU can beat it. As always Paz on 7/30/01 9:14 AM, Anne Sandstrom at asandstrom@macromedia.com wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I've been putting off sending this email until I knew more. Well, I don't > know much more, but here goes. It looks like I'm probably (90% probability) > having a recurrence of the cancer. My tumor marker number has been going up > slowly for the past 6 months. It's been outside the normal range the last 3 > times. So, even though they can't see it yet, it's probably there. The week > after next I'll have a different type of scan (PET scan) to see what they > see with that. To be honest, it would take a major miracle for this to be > something else. > > At any rate, you've all been so supportive of me, I thought you should know. > And I'm not sure what's going to happen in the next few weeks, whether I'll > have surgery (likely) and when. So, I'm still hoping it works out that I'm > able to go to JoniFest. I'll keep my fingers crossed... > > as always... > lots of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 02:00:18 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: some news Anne, This isn't the happiest news. I remember when I faced my second diagnosis of breast cancer, or more precisely tried my best not to face it. Yet here I am, a couple years later, cranky as ever. So know that we are sending all good thoughts and prayers your way...and do keep in mind that there's a tradition here on JMDL of coming through cancer twice and going on to torment the list despite it all! ;) Love, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, one of us curling up on the love seat for yet another little nap - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:24:50 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: july 31!!!!!!!!!!! njc hey! hey mister! hey you! hey dulson! yes you! listen: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY B I R T H D A Y ! ! ! ! YESSIR, i needed to get that off my chest. the VOCIFEROUS YET INNOCUOUS JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY. and, hey, dulson, next time you want to pay for the parking make sure you get your money out of your pocket BEFORE you sit between kate and michelle. hey. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #321 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?