From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #320 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 30 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 320 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- joni stars in a whirling universe with jann and leaves the men way behind ["shane mattison" ] ISO trades for Joni shows [MarkPerini@aol.com] july 30!!!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: southern alberta rocks njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Fw: southern alberta rocks njc ["shane mattison" ] insensitive ["shane mattison" ] Re: and sometimes there'll be sorrow. njc, long [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: SJC vain promises on beauty jars [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: july 26!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) [Bruyere ] Re: july 26!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) [Bruyere ] Me again [Jodcrazee@aol.com] A Poem NJC [colin ] Who Knows Where the Time Goes [Jodcrazee@aol.com] NJC - just for laughs [Bruyere ] NJC -Fwd: Important: Virus Alert, Please Read [Bruyere ] Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: SJC vain promises on beauty jars [colin ] Re: Me again [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc [cvickery@danielrealty.com] Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! ["S.M. Roque" ] Re: Exact Audio Copier Question NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes NJC [Alison E ] and sometimes there'll be sorrow ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: being calm and relaxed(NJC) [Alison E ] RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes ["Donna J. Binkley" ] some news [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: expose the bitch! (NJC) [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes [Jerry Notaro ] Taming the Tiger [BachelorNumero2@aol.com] VAIN promises on beauty jars... NJC [Alison E ] Re: some news [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Taming the Tiger [Alison E ] EAC/Throwing Resolve NJC [Whizzboom@aol.com] RE: some news ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Entrenched Psalterium ["Preet" ] Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes [Reuben3rd@aol.com] Re: some news [RoseMJoy@aol.com] "America" meets Joni, 100% JC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Entrenched Psalterium [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Surf's Up by Wilson/Parks NJC [w evans ] some words about Coyote [Mags ] TNT Tribute (a little late) [cecelia sonsini ] Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc [Catherine McKay ] Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! [Lazyasz@aol.com] Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! [Catherine McKay Subject: joni stars in a whirling universe with jann and leaves the men way behind o.k. so i found an even better astrological personal profile of miss joni mitchell: http://astrozine.astrology.com/stars/reports/jmitchel.html this one has the ring of veracity (let's not debate 'veracity', kay?)...just kinds of deepens the equation ... and i'm struck by the creativity of another alberta born, jann arden...and her wonderful arden journal which you can read each day...and i'm awestruck by these two alberta born gals...and i feel like taking a walk after midnite and giving my head a shake because, although i'm a guy, these women got one up on us......and we know it... shane http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong sample jann's diary: http://www.jannarden.com/journal.php?page=238 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:11:48 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: July 30 On July 30 in Joni Mitchell History: 1983: Joni performs at the Red Rocks Amphitheater - in the foothills overlooking Denver - in the final concert of the 1983 tour. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:11:48 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: July 30 On July 30 this article was published: 1979: "Charles, Joni and the Circle Game" - Village Voice (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790730vv.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 618 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:50:59 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: southern alberta rocks now when joni came to play in alberta the last few years it was edmonchuck, dammit, no not calgary (that taught her how to drawn'paint and gave her her first payin' gigs).....noooo....our exasperating 'exit gates to gretsky' naybores to the arcticzone north... ...so calgary, jann arden informs me, has to content itself with the best band (sure) she can get her hands on to share her artistry: Vagina Monologues Come to Calgary Event Date: 29-Aug-2001 The Vagina Monologues will be coming to Calgary on August 29 and 30. Jann will be performing in both shows at the Jack Singer Concert Hall at 8:00pm. you know, thanx alot joni, gee thanx jann, and, vagina monologues, am i overlooking something?eh? rainonshane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:47:14 EDT From: MarkPerini@aol.com Subject: ISO trades for Joni shows Hi, I'm looking to trade for the following shows in DAO format: Tree #2 - Tokyo Japan 1983 + Wembley 1983, 2 discs, sbd A Day in the Garden, 8/15/98, 1 disc, sbd Philadelphia Spectrum, 2/16/76, 2 discs, aud New Orleans Jazz Festival, 5/6/95, 1 disc, sbd I've got the shows above, but they are in the annoying TAO format where gaps of silence are inserted between each show. I'd also be interested in trading for other Joni Mitchell soundboard shows in DAO format. I don't have a lot of Joni Mitchell, but my trade list is 1600+ shows. If you have the shows above, know how to burn DAO, and would like to trade, send me an email, and I'll email my trade list to you. Thanks! Mark Perini markperini@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:50:21 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: july 30!!!!!!!! njc D E B R A S H E A HaPpYBiRtHdAy TO T H E E ! ! ! ! love the most elegant and EXCEPTIONAL JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:53:59 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: southern alberta rocks njc shane, you devil, you're cracking me up!!!! who's this arden person????? and what's the idea anyway? wallyK, not an arden[t] fan [wasn't that clever???], who was scolded in canada for not liking the idea of a vagina monologue. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:10:45 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Fw: southern alberta rocks njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "shane mattison" To: "Wally Kairuz" Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:08 AM Subject: Re: southern alberta rocks njc > wally, you never heard of calgary's own jann arden? that's amazing, since > you already knew about the idea of the vagina monologues...well, correction, > they're not really an idea but would be more accurately assessed in the > category of a conspiracy... > ever since joni hopped a greyhound for tranna in '65 we haven't had a > confessional singer-songwriter as good as jann...well, she's getting better > and better with time, like her predecessor did...but instead of the LA > Express, it'll have to be the Vagina Monologues...they don't need us guys > around anymore, just make a monologue out of it...you ask 'em ta dance and > they look at ya kinda funny and just go on with their monologues with one > another... > but if you'd like to check out honest jann: > http://www.jannarden.com/ > shanologue > pssst...and wally, don't take any more guff... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wally Kairuz" > To: "shane mattison" ; > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:53 AM > Subject: RE: southern alberta rocks njc > > > > shane, you devil, you're cracking me up!!!! who's this arden person????? > and > > what's the idea anyway? > > wallyK, not an arden[t] fan [wasn't that clever???], who was scolded in > > canada for not liking the idea of a vagina monologue. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:41:43 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: insensitive joni talks lovingly and gentle about her cats... jann arden says this about her cats: 18. If you are reincarnated, who or what will you be? I hope I come back as a cat that lives in my house, because they're spoiled rotten bastards. nice touch jann...joni get with the program... shane introducing interviews of ms.non-slick: http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicArtistsA/arden.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:12:38 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: and sometimes there'll be sorrow. njc, long <> EASILY her best work to date..."A Whole New You" ain't bad, but it sure doesn't hold a candle to this great piece of work. I made the mistake of getting "Repairs" as my first Shawn Colvin disc, and I'm afraid the bar's too high for her to reach now... Another great song in this same vein, Jim, is "Stuck In A Moment That You Can't Get Out Of" from the latest U2. It was written for Michael Hutchence about unescapable sorrow. Bob NP: Buckingham-Nicks, "Without You" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:23:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: SJC vain promises on beauty jars <> It addresses one of the universal questions of humans: Why do bad things happen to good people? Even today, people think that faith, belief in God, and/or good works will only result in good things happening to them. Of course, it's as false a belief now as it was in Job's day. Most biblical scholars agree that Job is a fable and not based on a real event. The book was written by a couple different writers, starts as a simple narrative, and has an epic poem in the middle. Regardless of your personal beliefs, it makes for an interesting study. Bob NP: Buckingham-Nicks, "Garbo" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:24:41 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: Re: july 26!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) Bob! You know he's not a day over 225! Go ahead .... count the creases! :-D Heather At 08:51 PM 7/26/01 -0400, Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 7/26/01 7:44:24 PM, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > ><< Happy birthday, Hell! You share a birthday with my son who turned 11 >today. >> > >I hope you've been having a helluva happy birthday, Hell. > >You probably know that it's Mick Jagger's birthday, too. He's 238, I think. > >See you in Topsfield. > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:26:26 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: Re: july 26!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) Happy birthday Hell! (sorry i'm a bit late with that ..... haven't been on line much) Heather At 09:24 PM 7/26/01 -0400, Janet Hess wrote: > >Happy birthday, beloved old fart! > > >Cheerz. > >Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, one of them just having howled > > >-------------- >You've got to shake your fists at lightning now >You've got to roar like forest fire >You've got to spread your light like blazes >All across the sky > >Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:34:29 EDT From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: Me again There was a special on TV for the making of Tears Are Not Enough. I have on video Joni and Neil recording their parts along with some biography notes. I am still baffled as to why I didn't tape the actual performance of the song. Is Joni's Farm Aid performance on any trees? I have that too. I also have a jam session she did with Herbie Hancock, David Sanborn, Bobby McFerrin and Larry. It is really cool. She does an up-beat jazz version of Furry Sings the Blues. If anyone would be interested in this can you give me information on who to send it to to start anothe tapetree- so long as there isn't one in progress ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:48:24 +0100 From: colin Subject: A Poem NJC For computer users over 30: A computer was something on TV From a science fiction show of note. A window was something you hated to clean And ram was the cousin of a goat. Meg was the name of my girlfriend And gig was a job for the nights. Now they all mean different things And that really mega bytes. An application was for employment. A program was a TV show. A cursor used profanity. A keyboard was a piano. Memory was something that you lost with age. A CD was a bank account, And if you had a 3-in. floppy You hoped nobody found out. Compress was something you did to the garbage, Not something you did to a file, And if you unzipped anything in public You'd be in jail for awhile. Log on was adding wood to the fire. Hard drive was a long trip on the road. A mouse pad was where a mouse lived, And a backup happened to your commode. Cut you did with a pocket knife. Paste you did with glue. A web was a spider's home, And a virus was the flu. I guess I'll stick to my pad and paper, And the memory in my head. I hear nobody's been killed in a computer crash, But when it happens they wish they were dead. sent to me by a friend - -- bw colin BRO GC, 950i 940,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:43:54 EDT From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: Who Knows Where the Time Goes Nanci Griffith does a beautiful version of this song on her Other VoicesII CD. I was mesmorized when I first heard the song. It is often difficult for me to listen as I can feel too well the pain that underlies the song NP: Tom Waits- Frank's Wild Years ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:39:41 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: NJC - just for laughs (just for laughs .... someone sent this to me ... just wanted to share) Heather ________________________________________ In pharmacology, all drugs have a generic name. Tylenol is acetaminophen, Aleve is naproxen, Amoxil is amoxicilin, Advil is Ibuprofen, and so on. The FDA has been looking for a generic name for Viagra, and announced that it has settled on Mycoxafailin. Also considered were Mycoxafloppin, Mydixadrupin, and Mydixadud. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:45:55 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: NJC -Fwd: Important: Virus Alert, Please Read I thought this would be important to pass on. I just received it from my internet service provider. Heather >Subject: Important: Virus Alert, Please Read > >Alert > >This is a virus notification from SNET Internet Services. Please read >this message carefully. > >A virus known as SirCam is affecting Internet users worldwide. The >SirCam virus is transmitted through e-mail attachments and will likely >come from someone you know. We recommend that you monitor your e-mail >for unusual or unexpected messages. As a precaution, delete messages >that begin "Hi! How are you?" and end "See you later. Thanks" and >contain an attachment. The message also may appear in Spanish, >beginning "Hola como estas?" and ending "Nos vemos pronto, gracias." > >If your computer becomes infected, the virus will send messages to >every e-mail address stored on your computer and attach your personal >files to outgoing messages. We strongly recommend that you update your >anti-virus software to help protect your computer from this virus. > >For a complete description of this virus, please refer to the bulletin >available at http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-22.html. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:12 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc Happy Birthday Debra! Have a spectacular day!! Heather At 04:50 AM 7/30/01 -0300, Wally Kairuz wrote: > D E B R A S H > E A > > >HaPpYBiRtHdAy TO > > >T H E E ! ! ! ! > > > >love > >the most elegant and EXCEPTIONAL > >JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:56:26 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc Happy Birthday Debra!!!! Love, Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:08:39 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: SJC vain promises on beauty jars SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > < tried in the extreme and their subsequent struggle to understand why.>> > > It addresses one of the universal questions of humans: Why do bad things happen to good people? > > Even today, people think that faith, belief in God, and/or good works will only result in good things happening to them. Of course, it's as false a belief now as it was in Job's day. Many many people, religious or not, are brought up with the implication that being good will mean bad things do not happen. Behave well, study, do well at school, get a good job, your home etc etc etc. Of course none of that is true. Not that it doesn't happen but life isn't as smooth as that. the saddest part about it is that people tend to balme themselves when things go wrong. Sometimes personal reponsibity may be appropriate like in a divorce or accident. Many times, like in the case of disease, it isn't appropriate. Many see getting a serious illness as 'puunishment' for their wrong doing or just for being a 'bad person'. It never occurs to those who constantly worry about whether or not they are a good person that a 'bad person' wouldn't be thinking about it! Many 'self help' books unfortunately reinforce the 'blame' aspect of everything. If you have cancer, you can 'heal your life' and if you die, it is your fault because you didn't love yourself enough or do the excercices or whatever is being pushed. Or if you have a particualr illness it is realted to your feelings of-insert whatever you like here-so people who are lost and searching and frightened end up being blamed for their lot. Then of course is the 'you chose this'. Or this is happenig because it is pay back time from a preveious life. All of these resaons are bogus and just serve to make a person feel worse and is yet another way of 1. balming the victim and 2. making the believer in these reasons feel better and less afraid. After all, if you can attach blame for these things upon the victim, then the blamer can carry on keeping their own fear at bay. Until that is soemthing dreaful happens to them. then they might re-evalutate their belief system or blame it on the 'forces of evil'. Some brands of Xtianity also do this. The lady up the road who i know quite well, believes nothing will befall her children in the way of illness of accident becasue she believes in the Blood Of Jesus and therfore they are protected. She also believed a Demon made her young 3 year old refuse to eat her dinner and have a tantrum and believes her prayer exorcised the demon whent he child stopped acting up. I don't find much difference in these varoius beliefs-they are all designed to lessen fear but none are well thought out. Bad things happen to people all the time. It has nothing whatever to do with the beahviour of the people. I am sure we all know really nice, caring people who died horribly and know rotten, vicous bastards who are still alive well at an old age! In the end, it is the security we feel within our selves-that we will have to deal with whatever happens that enables us to live with fear. And the acceptence that life is precarious abnd short and that death happens to everybody, no exceptions. I feel badly for the people who suffered terrible loses this weekend: A lady who lost her husband and two sons in a road crash. and the man and woman whose parked car rolled into a lake drowning their 3 children. Imagine having to deal with pain. bw colin > > > Most biblical scholars agree that Job is a fable and not based on a real event. The book was written by a couple different writers, starts as a simple narrative, and has an epic poem in the middle. Regardless of your personal beliefs, it makes for an interesting study. > > Bob > > NP: Buckingham-Nicks, "Garbo" - -- bw colin BRO GC, 950i 940,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:10:09 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Me again <> I put together a compilation of some 80's performances, and this was included on that CD. I thought it was a pretty good performance, even if she seemed overwhelmed by it. << I also have a jam session she did with Herbie Hancock, David Sanborn, Bobby McFerrin and Larry. It is really cool. She does an up-beat jazz version of Furry Sings the Blues.>> Really Cool is an understatement! This was a Showtime presentation of a show called "Coast to Coast", hosted by Herbie. Wayne Shorter was also on board. This set is featured on "Unplugged & Jamming, Volume 1", a bootleg that was not officially treed on the list but has been shared a lot. Bob NP: Spin Doctors, "How Could You Want Him (When You Know You Could Have Me)" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:42:43 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc Hope you have an AWESOME birthday, Debra! Mark in Seattle > D E B R A S H E A > > > HaPpYBiRtHdAy TO > > > T H E E ! ! ! ! > > > > love > > the most elegant and EXCEPTIONAL > > JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:58:24 -0500 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc Hope your day is full of wonder, delight and delicious surprises! Happy happy birthday! Cindy > D E B R A S H E A > > > HaPpYBiRtHdAy TO > > > T H E E ! ! ! ! > > > > love > > the most elegant and EXCEPTIONAL > > JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:10:52 -0400 From: "S.M. Roque" Subject: Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! Greetings Les and jimdles: I've created an online community called the "Joni Mitchell Fan Forum". I believe your participation will make it enjoyable, since you all seem to know a lot more about Joni than I know. At the Joni Mitchell Fan Forum, you can participate in the message board or jump into the chat room. You can even attach files (such as pictures and programs) directly to messages -- just like e-mail. It's fast, easy, and efficient. As the Forum "Host", I control the specific features of the Forum. I've chosen to make this Forum public so anyone can participate. Unfortunately, as a no cost forum it is not "Banner Ad-free", but it can still become fun. The best way into my Forum is at the following URL: http://www.delphi.com/JoniMitchell/start Joni Mitchell Fan Forum is part of Delphi.com. If you've never used Delphi.com before, you'll need to go through a quick registration (so you can post messages). It only takes a minute and it's free! To join the discussion, simply go to http://forums.delphi.com/JoniMitchell/start Hope to see you all there, Sylvia M. Roque smroque61@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:32:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! <> Great!!...Joni discussion WITH ads!! Is this my lucky day or WHAT?! ;~) <> And so Delphi can send me more spam!! Boy, this offer gets better & better! This might just become as dynamic as the Rolling Stone message board! ;~D Bob NP: Sponge, "Molly" PS: Thanks les for creating the perfect discussion forum way back when... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:04:06 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes I wonder if this is the same song done by Judy Collins on a very early album. Please check out her version as well. db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Jodcrazee@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:44 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Who Knows Where the Time Goes Nanci Griffith does a beautiful version of this song on her Other VoicesII CD. I was mesmorized when I first heard the song. It is often difficult for me to listen as I can feel too well the pain that underlies the song NP: Tom Waits- Frank's Wild Years ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:04:57 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > I wonder if this is the same song done by Judy Collins on a very early > album. Please check out her version as well. db It definitely is. Written by Sandy Denny. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:46:48 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes NJC At 7/30/2001 06:43 AM, Jodcrazee@aol.com wrote: >Nanci Griffith does a beautiful version of this song on her Other VoicesII >CD. I was mesmorized when I first heard the song. It is often difficult for >me to listen as I can feel too well the pain that underlies the song In my opinion, the best version of this song is as performed by our own Claudia at Jonifest 2000. Pick up a copy if you can! Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:46:56 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copier Question NJC I have had excellent results with Cdex. It's free, downloadable, you can convert MP3 to wav, wav to MP3, you can throw a bunch of MP3's into it and walk away and it will convert them to wav's. Available at: http://www.cdex.n3.net/ Here's another link to other free rippers: http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/search.html?link=1&UTcat=audio&UTsubcat=rippers+%26+encoders&Usrt=date&Usubp=Audio_Rippers_and_Encoders RR Whizzboom@aol.com wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm wondering if any of y'all can help here. I've lost the name and address > of the gentleman who sent me the EAC program (though I know he's a JMDL'er), > and I'm having a problem. > > I found this great site related to Throwing Muses & Kristin Hersh > (Beestung.com), and being a HUGE fan, I couldn't help but do some massive > downloading, as the guy who runs it has entire shows posted, most of which > are of fairly excellent sound quality. Up until today, I've had no troubles > downloading the files as individual mp3's, then burning them onto CD in > succession to comprise an entire show. Today, however, I tied up my PC for > almost 12 hours getting another show together, and I cant get any of the > files to burn...my burner says the files are 'not valid audio files' and > 'will not be added to the playlist' or whatever. > > To cut to the chase, I know the EAC program MUST have a way of converting > these mutant mp3s into .WAV files, but EAC is a little complex to use and I > cannot figure out how to do it to save my life - any suggestions? A (free & > downloadable) software alternative? Help - I must hear Kristin!! I will not > be denied! (LOL) > Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes NJC Hey, i was going to say that! sending claud into a fit of uncontrolled blushing, i must say that i know i had heard this song before, but i never really *heard* it until claud performed it live at jonifest. simply amazing. alison e. in nyc np: joni, TI, as a result of all the "sire of sorrow" discussion. - --- Les Irvin wrote: > At 7/30/2001 06:43 AM, Jodcrazee@aol.com wrote: > >Nanci Griffith does a beautiful version of this > song on her Other VoicesII > In my opinion, the best version of this song is as > performed by our own > Claudia at Jonifest 2000. Pick up a copy if you > can! > Les Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:19:39 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: and sometimes there'll be sorrow A Melody In Your Name by Joni Mitchell - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you still remember how it all began? With clipper ships and pink electric trees, Dawnlight on a skyline bridges' span, Street light on a rooftop memory. Then it was me and spring came, Playing a song of spring rain, A melody in your name. Night now comes much bluer than it used to be. The pink nun sings much sadder than before. She sings that sometimes things aren't what they Seem to be, like moons reflected on the sixteenth floor. Love is no more, it's ended. Paper and pins won't mend it; Even the moon pretended. There must be a reason, oh, there must be one. Keep your answers, let me find my own. Where do pretty stories get their endings from If loving always leaves you all alone? Kisses have shown me sorrow; Love is a throne to borrow; Pay for the loan tomorrow. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright ) 1967; by Gandalf Publishing Company ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: being calm and relaxed(NJC) - --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I used to smoke pot, but I've always been in my > own world too much. Pot > just made me go even further into my own world... ok, then i will give my best two suggestions... 1. hiking, which i used to do alot to clear my head (and will do again soon!). i often hiked along at top speed while singing joni at the top of my lungs. i scared the shit out of many a hiker that way. and/or 2. yoga, which is such a relaxing and peaceful excersize and also helps you get into shape. i always feel at my most calm and relaxed at the end of a good hike, first day in on a multi-day backpacking trip, after i've set up camp and i've fixed myself a gatorade and gin cocktail. until the bats come out. alison e. in nyc np: still joni Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:47:17 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes That's right it was written by Sandy Denny! Man i need to dig that out again and i'll definitely being getting Nancy's version as i've been a great fan of hers forever as well. Thanks Jerry! db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:05 AM To: Donna J. Binkley Cc: Jodcrazee@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > I wonder if this is the same song done by Judy Collins on a very early > album. Please check out her version as well. db It definitely is. Written by Sandy Denny. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:41:56 -0700 From: jan Subject: RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes At 12:47 PM 7/30/01 -0500, Donna J. Binkley wrote: >That's right it was written by Sandy Denny! Man i need to dig that out >again and i'll definitely being getting Nancy's version as i've been a great >fan of hers forever as well. Thanks Jerry! db Wasn't she an actress in the 60s? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:14:24 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: some news Hi everyone. I've been putting off sending this email until I knew more. Well, I don't know much more, but here goes. It looks like I'm probably (90% probability) having a recurrence of the cancer. My tumor marker number has been going up slowly for the past 6 months. It's been outside the normal range the last 3 times. So, even though they can't see it yet, it's probably there. The week after next I'll have a different type of scan (PET scan) to see what they see with that. To be honest, it would take a major miracle for this to be something else. At any rate, you've all been so supportive of me, I thought you should know. And I'm not sure what's going to happen in the next few weeks, whether I'll have surgery (likely) and when. So, I'm still hoping it works out that I'm able to go to JoniFest. I'll keep my fingers crossed... as always... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:10:02 EDT From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: expose the bitch! (NJC) <> (Tongue firmly in cheek) That's okay, Jan, God still believes in you. (Couldn't resist, my dad's a preacher :)) Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:13:49 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes jan wrote: > At 12:47 PM 7/30/01 -0500, Donna J. Binkley wrote: > >That's right it was written by Sandy Denny! Man i need to dig that out > >again and i'll definitely being getting Nancy's version as i've been a great > >fan of hers forever as well. Thanks Jerry! db > > Wasn't she an actress in the 60s? > -jan No. That was Sandy Dennis, who recently died of cancer. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:21:51 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes Yes, but i don't know if it's the same person. Does anyone else know? db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of jan Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:42 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Who Knows Where the Time Goes At 12:47 PM 7/30/01 -0500, Donna J. Binkley wrote: >That's right it was written by Sandy Denny! Man i need to dig that out >again and i'll definitely being getting Nancy's version as i've been a great >fan of hers forever as well. Thanks Jerry! db Wasn't she an actress in the 60s? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:25:25 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Jonatha,Nancy Griffith,Joni on TV Jonatha Brooke will be musical guest on Late Night with Conan O'Brien tonight. Musical guest for Letterman tonight will be Nancy Griffith Leno has Buddy Guy tonight If you happen to get TRIO network, Joni's "Painting w/Words and Music" will air Wed. at 9AM EST. Then theres VH1 'Legends'-Neil Young Tues 10PM EST Ovation has Mingus' Epitaph Fri 11AM EST Nelly Furtado is musical guest on Leno Thursday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:41:16 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: Taming the Tiger hey folks, i was giving TTT a spin last night, and when the title track came on I was cracking up. I dunno, hearing Joni say "here kitty kitty" is a little over the top for me............ anyone else think that this track is strange? PHIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: VAIN promises on beauty jars... NJC i never ever would have considered buying those expensive creams and potions and whatnot, i don't even shave my legs or bother to use real dye on my gray hair (henna only!)...but.... earlier this year i started to notice those lovely little lines forming around my eyes, and i did panic for a minute. i got a bottle of oil of olay (!) which, as most of the women on the list know only leads to harder drugs... so now i use "hope in a jar" by philosophy. i'm not kidding, that's really what it's called. and it works, but mostly it makes me feel like i have a little control even though i know i don't. so thats my vainglorious story. alison e. in nyc np: ben folds five, video killed the radio star. (thanks, bobby!) Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:01:21 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: some news In a message dated 7/30/01 2:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, asandstrom@macromedia.com writes: << At any rate, you've all been so supportive of me, I thought you should know. And I'm not sure what's going to happen in the next few weeks, whether I'll have surgery (likely) and when. So, I'm still hoping it works out that I'm able to go to JoniFest. I'll keep my fingers crossed... >> Dear Anne, Just like last year, the JMDL will be sending out good thoughts and prayers. You hang in there and don't worry about a thing. You try and post some of your wonderful lyrics when you can. I've got my fingers, toes, arms, legs, and my unmentionables crossed so you can be at Jonifest. Lots of love to you sweetie, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger - --- BachelorNumero2@aol.com wrote: > hey folks, > i was giving TTT a spin last night, and when the > title track came on I was > cracking up. I dunno, hearing Joni say "here kitty > kitty" is a little over > the top for me............ > anyone else think that this track is strange? > PHIL yes, phil, that's my least favorite song on the album. i think the lyrics are cheesy. i do love tiger bones, though, which is practically taming the tiger without the lyrics. and as we all know, lead balloon is the very best song on the album! ;-) alison e. in nyc Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:05:01 EDT From: Whizzboom@aol.com Subject: EAC/Throwing Resolve NJC Greetings, I just wanted to send out a hearty thanks (!!!) to any and all suggestions posted about my situation with burning from the 'beestung' site. I ended up going with the MusicMachine Jukebox, and have had successs. Now that I've burned the show in question, I may go into EAC and edit the high end down a little, an ambitious undertaking, but the nice thing about computer tunes is if you back yourself up, they're forever! So, if I screw up all is not lost. Thanks again - I am not denied! - -Chris NP: Kristin Hersh Live@ Palookaville '99 "Soap & Water" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:36:32 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: some news dearest anne, baby, we'll be screaming and shrieking and hugging again soon. you're a warrior and an angel. you're immortal. i love you, wally ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:38:27 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! huh? wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de S.M. Roque Enviado el: Lunes, 30 de Julio de 2001 12:11 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org CC: les@jmdl.com Asunto: Joni Mitchell Fan Forum at Delphi.com! Greetings Les and jimdles: I've created an online community called the "Joni Mitchell Fan Forum". I believe your participation will make it enjoyable, since you all seem to know a lot more about Joni than I know. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:44:55 EDT From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes I just got a copy of Judy's album "Who Knows Where The Time Goes", and love the version on there...its not the same one from the "Colors of the Day" compilation. (I'm slowly getting into Judy's earlier stuff. For some reason, I absolutley love her 80's work (Running For My Life, Times of Our Lives, etc.), but have never heard much of her early stuff. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:51:16 EDT From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger >>i was giving TTT a spin last night, and when the title track came on I was cracking up. I dunno, hearing Joni say "here kitty kitty" is a little over the top for me............ anyone else think that this track is strange? PHIL>> It seems a little awkward to me, too. I like the song though. Actually, TTT is the only one of Joni's albums (aside from the heralded "Blue") that I have not really gotten in to. I love a few of the trax (Harlem..., Stay In Touch, Love Puts On...) but the album itself didn't grab me the was they usually do. Hmmm. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:44:17 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes At 03:44 PM 7/30/01 -0400, Reuben3rd@aol.com wrote: >I just got a copy of Judy's album "Who Knows Where The Time Goes", and love the version on there...its not the same one from the "Colors of the Day" compilation. (I'm slowly getting into Judy's earlier stuff. For some reason, I absolutley love her 80's work (Running For My Life, Times of Our Lives, etc.), but have never heard much of her early stuff. > >Reuben Isn't there a song on WKWTTG named 'Someday Soon'? As I remember, it was a tuneful ditty, kind of like JM's 'You Turn Me On...' - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:17:07 +0100 From: "Preet" Subject: Entrenched Psalterium One technique I oft use with friends to win them around to our Genius who art on Earth, is to quote one of her deep and succinct quodlibets. The paper chain in Harry's House is a great starter for one and has buttered much Roberta across many a croissant: (Battalions of paper minded males taking commodities and sales while at home their paper wives And their paper kids paper their Walls to keep their gut reactions Hid) Which ones do y'all wax lyrical about that could be useful for our bloodless crusade? Preet @Tower Hamlets preetd@bigfoot.com "Me Dicen El Clandestino Por No Llevar Papel" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:44:21 EDT From: Reuben3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Who Knows Where the Time Goes "Someday Soon" is a good one...its also on her latest CD, "Live at Wolftrap". Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:49:54 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: some news In a message dated 7/30/01 2:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, asandstrom@macromedia.com writes: > . So, I'm still hoping it works out that I'm > able to go to JoniFest. I'll keep my fingers crossed... > > Oh Annie, sending healing medicinewheel thoughts your way. Everybody think red.....success, victory and triumph. Love you sweetie, Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:00:22 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "America" meets Joni, 100% JC Isn't this around the time when Joni was writing "Court and Spark" and describes how she felt like she "had no defenses" as though she was naked to the world???? *DUH* Kate Bennett quoted Dan Peek's online "narrative" (autobiography?) >>>>> Looking again to our right was an amazing view of the swimming pool, the waterfall pouring into the deep end, the whole flagged by huge stones with redwood furniture scattered about like large tiddlywinks. The pool seemed suspended in space, with short glass walls bordering, allowing that awesome view full rein. The view was made even more amazing by the fact that a young, beautiful blonde woman lay full length on one of the loungers, sunning herself in the warm dry air. She was completely naked. >>>>> Biting the hand that has fed my soul for lo, these many years, Lama PS. Now that I think about it, Crosby talks a lot about nudity on his yacht..... And there's nudity at "The Celebration At Big Sur" movie. Sometimes I forget that the woman in the Mercedes, hiring the L.A. Express, had personified the "hippie chick" only a few months before! "Joni, you've changed!" Indeed, but who can stay in life's Jaccuzi for long? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: appalled NJC I'm personally at loose ends over the 14-year-old's sentence. Surely his crime deserves punishment, but 28 years in prison will do nothing except turn him into a hardened criminal. Anyway Colin, here's a link to an editorial in today's Washington Post that will give you hope for believing that not everyone in the U.S. thinks the same, regarding crime and punishment: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/opinion/A4290-2001Jul29.html Lori in DC ~ Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:04:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Entrenched Psalterium <> Hard to beat "Hejira" & "Down To You" for lyrics that can convince the unconverted... Bob NP: Bruce, "I Wish I Were Blind" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:29:37 -0400 (EDT) From: w evans Subject: Surf's Up by Wilson/Parks NJC We were talking about this a few weeks ago, about what could this song mean. Van Dyke Parks said recently that the song was about the "decay of institutions." I'll briefly add to that a synopsis of what the folks on the petsounds list say: it's about the fall of the aristocracy and the contrasts between wealth and poverty. Again, I need to refer to my SMiLE bootleg notes, which I'll do one of these days. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:50:09 -0400 From: Mags Subject: some words about Coyote Listening to a CD that my daughter brought home from the library ... music for The Native Americans...performance by Robbie Robertson and the Red Road Ensemble... and there are a few words about Coyote that I thought you might find interesting: Coyote- The Trickster There is much the Indian has learned from old coyote - He is an actor - he would play dead A magician, a survivor and a powerful singer He always wants it both ways Is he like us or are we like him. Mags - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: cecelia sonsini Subject: TNT Tribute (a little late) After seeing Diana Krall at the Hollywood Bowl this past week I went looking for my video of the Joni tribute that was on TNT. Well, I have a sick feeling that I accidently recorded over it (I knew it was a bad idea to offer to record the Sopranos without first getting blank video tapes from the recipients!). I checked CDNow and they don't have any listing so I'm wondering if it's even possible to purchase the video. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance, Cecelia Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:22:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: july 30!!!!!!!! njc It's getting so I can't understand a thing Wally says anymore with that weird typing of his, but I finally managed to figure out WHO the HB wishes were for - Have a good 'un, Debra. - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > D E B R A S H E A > > > HaPpYBiRtHdAy TO > > > T H E E ! ! ! ! > > > > love > > the most elegant and EXCEPTIONAL > > JMDL BIRTHDAY FAIRY Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:47:23 EDT From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! Hey guys, Was just informed that Joni will appear on the cover of the "Rock n' Roll" issue of Vanity Fair which should be on newstands in September. Also on the cover are Beyonce, Beck, Bowie, Maxwell, Stevie Wonder, and Jewel (?!?). Later ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:42:40 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! In a message dated 31/07/01 00:57:40 GMT Daylight Time, Lazyasz@aol.com writes: << Also on the cover are Beyonce, Beck, Bowie, Maxwell, Stevie Wonder, and Jewel (?!?). >> Beyonce?? Who the jiggins is that? Oh dear, this is clearly a sign that I'm getting old. Azeem in very hot London, smarting from the devastating news that that marvellous "This is a lighthouse, your call" story is false (thanks to one of my fave websites, www.snopes.com for that info) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni on cover of Vanity Fair!! - --- AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 31/07/01 00:57:40 GMT Daylight > Time, Lazyasz@aol.com > writes: > > << Also > on the cover are Beyonce, Beck, Bowie, Maxwell, > Stevie Wonder, and Jewel > (?!?). >> > > Beyonce?? Who the jiggins is that? Oh dear, this > is clearly a sign that I'm > getting old. > Never mind. Who the hell is Maxwell? All I can think of is Maxwell Smart, or Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine. That makes me old too. Believe it or not I've heard of Beyonce - there are accents on the Es and you pronounce it (something like) Bee-YON-see (or maybe it's bay-YON-say. She's one of the Destiny's Child people (don't ask me which one, that's going too far). I'm fascinated and repulsed by the name. what the heck is a beyonce anyhoo? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #320 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?