From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #300 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 19 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 300 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Napster decision is overturned (NJC) ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Re: Vorrei uscire [Catherine McKay ] Mimi Farina is gone ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: black folk into joni - long (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Mimi Farina is gone [Catherine McKay ] RE: Mimi Farina is gone; book about the Farinas (NJC) ["Deb Messling" ] re: Vegemite [NJC] [Gerald McNamara ] Re: black folk into joni - long (vljc) ["Kakki" ] Re: black folk into joni (sjc) ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: july 18!!!!!!!!!!! NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: joni line [sjc]/ blackness [RobSher50@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:41:00 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Napster decision is overturned (NJC) "Napster can resume its song-swapping operations on the Internet, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday. "The decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a federal judge's order last week that ordered the Redwood City company to remain offline until it fully complied with an injunction to remove all copyright music. " http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,45358,00.html For those keeping score.... Brenda n.p.: Radiohead - "Packt Like Sardines..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:21:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lively Up The List (was UNSUBSCRIBE ME PLEASE) - --- Don Rowe wrote: > --- HeJlRa@aol.com wrote: > > This list is too boring for my tastes! > > To lively up the list, and make it more to your > tastes, please select the phrase of your choice > below > and post it to the list (as directed, where > indicated): > > 1. The Hinton biography should be considered The > Holy > Bible when talking about Joni's life and career. > > 2. Everything Jackson Browne alleged about "Not To > Blame" was true. > Don, you are just TOO funny for words! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:17:03 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Mimi Farina is gone I just heard on the news that Mimi Farina has died after a long battle with cancer. Mimi, Joan Baez's sister, is well-known and admired greatly here in Northern California for founding Bread and Roses, which brings music performances to the elderly and incarcerated. Joni has performed in benefit concerts for the cause in the past, many here on the list are well-aware. Rest in Peace, Mimi. You will be missed. - -Julius np: "Amazing Grace" - Joan Baez ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:27:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Vorrei uscire - --- paolo wrote: > Come posso fare per non ricevere piy e-mail da JMDL > Digest? Qualcuno mi sa > rispondere. > Con affetto Paolo. Paolo wants to leave the list - I can understand the Italian, but not how to respond in the same language. Paolo, just send an e-mail to joni@smoe.org and include the word "unsubscribe" in the message. (I think that's how it works - someone else, help me out - - I've lost my message that tells you how to do this! Good thing I don't want to leave. I hope by typing the word unsub***e in my e-mail, it doesn't unsub***e me. Now I'm worried - I know how to get there, but not how to get back! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:20:29 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Mimi Farina is gone I just heard on the news that Mimi Farina has died after a long battle with cancer. Mimi, Joan Baez's sister and a musician in her own right, is well-known and admired greatly here in Northern California for founding "Bread and Roses", an organization which provides live music performances to the elderly and incarcerated. Joni has performed in benefit concerts for the cause in the past, as many here on the list are well aware. Rest in Peace, Mimi. You will be dearly missed. - -Julius np: "Amazing Grace" - Joan Baez ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: black folk into joni - long (njc) - --- "J. R. Mills" wrote: > Hello shane: > Also, I can't > help but think of the present Canadian's Prime > Minister's recent comments > about being afraid of being boiled in a pot by > natives on his upcoming trip > to Africa. It wasn't the prime minister - it was the doofus mayor of Toronto, Mel Lastman. Despite the blatant stupidity of his remark, based on what I know of him, I honestly don't think he's a racist, but he is a major-league goof. I'll give him one thing - he sure ain't boring. Anyhow, JR, write more - I enjoyed your post a lot. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni line [sjc]/ blackness - --- "J. R. Mills" wrote: > I just read Sherelle's post on this thread and am > amazed at the > synchronicity of our views on Joni having soul. > Thanks for your thoughts, > Sherelle. Very well stated. > > -Julius LOL, Julius - I didn't realize that you and JR Mills were one and the same! I thought JR was some new person! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:44:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Mimi Farina is gone - --- "J. R. Mills" wrote: > I just heard on the news that Mimi Farina has died > after a long battle with cancer. I'm sad to hear that. What a beautiful woman. Such a shame. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:31:20 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: Mimi Farina is gone; book about the Farinas (NJC) How sad! She was much too young. BTW, I would strongly recommend the new book Positively 4th Street : The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina, and Richard Farina by David Hadju. It's absolutely riveting. IMO, Mimi comes off the best in this rendering. Those who dislike Bob and those who champion him will find ammunition here; ditto Joan. Probably not many people know a lot about Richard Farina, but what a character! > I just heard on the news that Mimi Farina has died after a long > battle with cancer. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:54:51 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Mimi Farina is gone; book about the Farinas (NJC) Deb Messling wrote: > > How sad! She was much too young. > > BTW, I would strongly recommend the new book Positively 4th Street : The > Lives and Times of Joan > Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina, and Richard Farina by David Hadju. It's > absolutely riveting. IMO, Mimi comes off the best in this rendering. Those > who dislike Bob and those who champion him will find ammunition here; ditto > Joan. Probably not many people know a lot about Richard Farina, but what a > character! > > > I just heard on the news that Mimi Farina has died after a long > > battle with cancer. Thursday from 11 AM to noon Eastern Daylight: David Hadju will be Marty's guest today. His new book, "Positively Fourth Street," is about the lives and times of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina who helped to create the music and define the style and culture of the 1960's. The Radio Times toll free call-in number is 1-888-477-WHYY (1-888-477-9499). (Repeated at midnight) Visit the Radio Times web site at http://www.whyy.org/91FM/RadioTimes.html (the show is webcast live) Brei np: Mags on the other end of IM xoxox - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:03:45 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: july 18!!!!!!!!!!! NJC > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > LORI FYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > the JMDL Birthday Fairy is thinking of you! > Lori, I hope you're having a FABULOUS birthday! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 2:24:29 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: re: Vegemite [NJC] last week, John in Sydney wrote: >There were some cute advertisements on television years ago for >Vegemite - full of "happy little vegemites" (ie. healthy Aussie kids) >being told how a sandwich of V. would "put a rose in every cheek". >They probably didn't get shown in NZ and were before young Hell's time >anyway, but Gerald in Melbourne will probably remember. > I'm a week behind with my JMDL digests, so am only now catching up with the Vegemite discussion. Indeed I do remember those TV ads. In fact they're still being aired. If you take a jar of Vegemite to Ashara's, Hell, be prepared for some weird reactions. The only time I've ever given Vegemite to someone from another country was when the very early JMDLer, Meriwether Jones, from the USA visited me (long-time JMDLers might remember Meri). His reaction was one of excruciation and it made him pull the most agonised face ! So my warning is to have your camera ready for the face-pulling that is likely to accompany any Vegemite tasting at Joni-fest ! -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:16:20 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: black folk into joni - long (vljc) Wow, Sherelle, Julius and Brenda, Your posts are some of the most beautiful and insightful writing I have ever read. Thank you - you filled my soul today. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:12:11 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: black folk into joni (sjc) What serendipitous timing for this discussion to start. Recently, I had a conversation about music with a female coworker of mine who is bi-racial. She has been raised with a whole variety of perspectives that I as a white female Southern baby boomer didn't experience. We were talking about music, and her preferences always surprise me. What really surprised me though was when she mentioned that she and her husband, who is black, attended a Joni Mitchell concert not too long ago - I assumed it was the BSN tour. She said her husband was a huge fan, and he had been somewhat disappointed in the show because Joni didn't do her "old" stuff. I think I successfully disguised my surprise that a young black man would be a Joni fan, and I didn't want to reveal my "cracker" ignorance by asking too many questions, but nevertheless I was fascinated. So thanks for starting this discussion thread and educating me. "Racial" topics can cause very touchy discussions, it seems especially so here in the south, and I'm always afraid I will offend someone out of ignorance. The discussions on this list are always so open and free. Sybil NP:"Cowgirl in the Sand" I found the Decade CDs in the changer left there by my 17 year old son. Listening to Neil Young at 17, I'm not sure this is an entirely good thing. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:30:48 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: black folk into joni (sjc) Sybil Skelton wrote: > NP:"Cowgirl in the Sand" I found the Decade CDs in the changer left there > by my 17 year old son. Listening to Neil Young at 17, I'm not sure this is > an entirely good thing. Yeah Look how some of us (read ME) turned out ;-) take care, Brei (who, at Jimmy's suggestion, is learning how to siphon) - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:05:35 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: july 18!!!!!!!!!!! NJC Happy Fucking Birthday Lori! Love Paz on 7/18/01 12:32 AM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > LORI FYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > the JMDL Birthday Fairy is thinking of you! > > and is it lori? lorry? laurie? [only old-timers will remember...] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:03:42 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: joni line [sjc]/ blackness In a message dated 07/18/2001 5:08:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > joni line [sjc]/ blackness > > Hi Wally, Being referred to as black(s) doesn't offend me personally unless you put the word "the" in front of it. I'm not sure why that bothers me, but it does. It just has a derogatory tone to it in my opinion. I can't speak for Jamaicans being referred to as an African American. It could be an affront to his native land, but again, I cannot say. I would actually like to be referred to as "human." I would like to see the day that a person sees my character before he/she sees the color of my skin. That doesn't mean I am not proud of my ethnicity, it just means that I would prefer to be acknowledged as a member of the human race. This is just my own personal opinion. Sherelle ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #300 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?