From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #284 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 9 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 284 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: July 8 [les@jmdl.com] Cat Stevens NJC [pyramus@lineone.net] july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Cat Stevens NJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] "In my lifetime"(NJC) [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Cat Stevens NJC [Catherine McKay ] Bud Cort (njc)& Happy Birthday Rev. Vince [Leslie Mixon ] Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] more Bud Cort NJC [Yael Harlap ] Cat Stevens NJC [Yael Harlap ] Electric Dreams NJC [Yael Harlap ] Re: Bud Cort (njc)& Happy Birthday Rev. Vince ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Cat Stevens NJC [pyramus@lineone.net] Radio songs - (VLJC) ["Jenaya Dawe" ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Cat Stevens NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Happy birthday y'all NJC [Catherine McKay ] OJ and us NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Happy birthday y'all NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) ["Paul Pennington" ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Radio songs - now NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [Mark Domyancich ] Sorry [Vince Lavieri ] Ernie K-Doe, Johnny Russell [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Friends of SpiritNJC [colin ] Re: Radio songs - (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] NJC Caution [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Radio songs - (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Radio songs [Jan Lumholdt ] Re: Friends of Spirit ["Mark or Travis" ] Hello Again! [Julian Parker-Burns ] Re: NJC Caution (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [Steve Anderson ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) [Randy Remote ] Joni in NYT magazine [Relayer211@aol.com] George Harrison with brain tumor (njc) [Brian Gross ] Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC ["hell" ] Thanks, and a question [Bounced Message ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 03:10:15 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: July 8 On July 8 this article was published: 2000: "Another side of Joni" - Vancouver Sun (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000708vs.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 606 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:08:58 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Cat Stevens NJC Colin wrote: Not at all. There are many Muslim singers and musicians. Indeed Cat or Yusuf Islam as he is now called appeared on the 1997 albumI Have No Cannons That Roar singing The Little Ones in support of the children who perished in Sarajevo and Dunblane. He was also due to sing at Live Aid some years after he gave up pop stardom, however he was denied an opportunity because Elton John overran. (At least thats the official explanation). He also appears on a new album to be released soon. As for the remark about it being considered frivolous. Remember he quit to study and teach the Islamic faith. He had just given up the pop business to devote himself to his faith. To then continue singing and releasing records may have been considered rather frivolous by his peers and might have resulted in some people questioning his intentions and motives. It would be like the Archbishop of Canterbury releasing a tribute album to Joni Mitchell. Not out of the question but a bid odd nonetheless!! In any case it is his decision on whether he should sing or not. Just like if Joni quit Im sure we would respect her decision. Kevin (Not a muslim just a music lover) P.S. Happy anniversary mate. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:24:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC as this is a LONG weekend in birthday fairy land and the ever-moving ever-fleeting BIRTHDAY FAIRY is taking flight the ever-changing and very PROTEAN BIRTHDAY FAIRY thus commands: ALL YE BRAVE AND BEAUTEOUS CREATURES OF THE JMDL: REJOICE AND CELEBRATE LESLIE MIXON AND YAEL HARLAP have their birthdays on july 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H A P P Y B I R H D A Y YAEL AND LESLIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The BF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:50:25 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC In a message dated 7/8/01 9:32:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > LESLIE MIXON > > AND > > YAEL HARLAP > > have their birthdays on july 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Happy Birthday Leslie & Yael!!!! Rose in NJ I'm porous with travel fever But you know I'm so glad to be home rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 10:02:17 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC In an odd coincidence, for anyone really interested in the whys and wherefores of Cat Stevens conversion and defection from pop music, he will be interviewed on ABC's "20/20" program tomorrow night (Monday 7/10/01). It's a rerun of a program from last fall - I missed it, but I understand it was not altogether complimentary. However, at least you can get the story from the horse's mouth. Check your local listings for times and channels. Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:17:55 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: "In my lifetime"(NJC) I just recently bought this Neil Diamond Box Set...I recommend it. It has 71 of Neil's songs, and unlike other compilations, it has material from all 3 of Neil's record companies:Bang,MCI,and Columbia. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC - --- Sybil Skelton wrote: > In an odd coincidence, for anyone really interested > in the whys and > wherefores of Cat Stevens conversion and defection > from pop music, he will > be interviewed on ABC's "20/20" program tomorrow > night (Monday 7/10/01). > It's a rerun of a program from last fall - I missed > it, but I understand it > was not altogether complimentary. However, at least > you can get the story > from the horse's mouth. Check your local listings > for times and channels. > I'll be sure to tape this one. I think he probably made the right move (for him at least) getting out of the "popstar" business. His songwriting had pretty much fizzled out by the time he found religion. A review by Bob Gulla, contributing writer, CDNow.com, begins as follows: "Around about 1970, folk legend Ramblin' Jack Elliott found himself on tour with Cat Stevens. "Loved his show, dug his music. Didn't care much for the man, though," says the wry space cowboy. In fact, the West Ender was a cocky, difficult, talented artist, eager to make a name for himself on the London music scene." and concludes: "We may never hear him pen the likes of "Moonshadow" again, but then, for the pop music faithful, Stevens' work was done in 1976. And, besides, like Ramblin' Jack said, he wasn't much of a nice guy back then either." - ------ Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 09:03:19 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Bud Cort (njc)& Happy Birthday Rev. Vince Bud Cort had a small part as Boon, the nerdish orderly. His most memorable scene is the one in which he gives Captain Burns (Robert Duvall) the wrong syringe. Burns, discovering the patient is already dead, tells Boon that it's his fault and he's killed him with his incompetence. Trapper John (Elliot Gould, long before I damned his career), sees Boon weeping, takes Burns in a supply closet and sucker punches him. I had the pleasure of seeing Bud Cort in a song and dance routine in San Francisco in the early 80s. I seem to recall that Bud was living with Groucho Marx during the last years of Groucho's life. I love to imitate Vivian Pickles when she declares, "I suppose you think that's very funny Harold." BTW, "Harold & Maude" was on television last night. Happy Birthday (July 9th) Rev. Vince! Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:05:06 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC In a message dated 7/8/01 12:01:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: << And, besides, like Ramblin' Jack said, he wasn't much of a nice guy back then either." >> For heaven sake, who exactly was "a niceguy(or girl)" back then? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:31:07 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Rev. Vince and Pearl Happy Birthday Rev. and belated wishes to Miss Pearl. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:50:06 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC pyramus@lineone.net wrote: > Colin wrote: > > I didn't write this. > > > > > Kevin (Not a muslim just a music lover) > > P.S. Happy anniversary mate. thank you kevin > > > - -- bw colin BRO GC, 950i 940,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:29:25 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC In a message dated 7/8/01 9:32:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << H A P P Y B I R H D A Y YAEL AND LESLIE >> Happy Happy Birthday Yael and Leslie. May all your wishes come true! Jimmy (deputy B.F.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:36:45 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: more Bud Cort NJC Woh! Vince wrote: >Electric Dreams (1984) Bud Cort was in Electric Dreams?? Who was he?? That was one of the videos my family had on betamax... which means I saw it many times. But that was a long time ago... - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:44:09 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: Cat Stevens NJC Catherine said... >I never got that either. And is there something in >the muslim faith that says you can't sing? We had >friends who were Muslim and they had a rock band in >Pakistan. On the other hand, I guess they weren't >very observant Muslims, because they drank and so on. >Even if Cat "got religion", couldn't he have kept >singing? I'm sure someone out there knows this better than I, but when the most recent "best of..." Cat Stevens album came out, I think there was a spate of interviews with Yusuf... and I think that he has calmed down about his past work. When he first converted I think he condemned his past work - not sure of the details, I guess he thought it contained sinful ideas or something - but now he is able to appreciate it as work he did before he learned the truth or whatever. Not my truth, though. He has put out a few records since his conversion, but I think mostly prayers and stuff like that. I think he has a newer children's album called "A is for Allah" or something like that. - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:58:39 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: Electric Dreams NJC OK, I figured it out - Bud Cort was the computer. I suspected perhaps that might be it. And it is! How weird. - -Yael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:34:40 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Bud Cort (njc)& Happy Birthday Rev. Vince > Bud Cort had a small part as Boon, the nerdish orderly. His most > memorable scene is the one in which he gives Captain Burns (Robert > Duvall) the wrong syringe. Burns, discovering the patient is already > dead, tells Boon that it's his fault and he's killed him with his > incompetence. Trapper John (Elliot Gould, long before I damned his > career), sees Boon weeping, takes Burns in a supply closet and sucker > punches him. I thought Bud Cort was in M*A*S*H! Thanks for mentioning this, Natasha! Love Always, Boris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:07:56 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: Hissing info hello folks, I'm a "Hissing of Summer Lawns" fanatic and it's really frustrating to find that there are few articles/interviews with Joni around that period (compartively)......She has said little about the album (its genesis, its politics), and it's killing me because I would love to hear how she arrived at the creation of this masterpiece. If anyone could steer me in the direction of finding more articles/photos from that period, let me know.........I've checked the JMDL base already...... thanks PHIL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 12:38:35 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Friends of Spirit The Seattle chapter of the JMDL met last evening for a wonderful extended dinner and renewed old friendships and started others. Collectively the group adopted Joni's "Black Crow" as their theme since we arrived by planes to taxis to ferries and landed at the upscale Cutter's Bayside with its panoramic view of the waterfront and mountains beyond. After four years I finally met my Northwest brother Mark, in Seattle, our event coordinator. His choice of a meeting place was impeccable and his company a treat. Catherine Turley and husband Tom took a rare evening's respite from parenthood to join the group, which got its impetus from the Pacific Northwest travels of SoCal'ers Phyliss and Bob Ward. Although Mark and I are still debating which one of us will be Emmylou's next husband, we did manage to feel that special bond that JMDLers have. Phyliss and Catherine echoed this sentiment...you know the one...when after years of buying the albums, listening to them over and over and over in solitude, and more years spent in amazement wondering how Joni's music connects so deeply with your soul, you find there are others out there who feel the same. I think it's a great tribute to the artist that her admirers will go to such lengths to gather where they can share and strengthen the bond that brought them together...the love of Joni, her art, her music, her inspiration. Mark, let's not wait another four years to share some conversation. Catherine, one of my special list friends, it was great to see you again. And Phyliss, you and Bob have a great thing going...I wish you much success and happiness. Thank you all for spending the time. You provided a night which will be a treasured memory. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:51:57 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC - ---------- >> > >I didn't write this. >bw >colin Whoops, sorry to misrepresent you Colin. It was young Catherine I think. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:56:23 -0700 From: "Jenaya Dawe" Subject: Radio songs - (VLJC) First of all, hello to some familiar names (Bob, Kakki, Mark), I've been off-list for about 2 years and just signed back up - took me awhile to figure out some of the new email addresses! I'm sorry to hear I missed a Seattle get-together last night - I live a block from Cutter's! Anyway, I've had "You Turn Me On..." stuck in my head for a week, and it has me thinking of other songs about radio. I'm putting together a thematic CD and I was wondering what y'all would suggest. Here's what I have so far: "YTMOIAR" - Joni "Are You Out There?" - Dar Williams "Radio Song" - REM "Video Killed The Radio Star" - The Buggles "Mexican Radio" - Wall of Voodoo "Screenwriters Blues" - Soul Coughing What else can you guys think of? I know there's tons, this could turn into a 2 CD project... Best to ALL! Jenaya ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:27:58 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Jenaya, Every bunch of months I have posted, anyone know what happened to Jenaya? But no one did! I am so glad you are back! I remember many thoughtful posts from you and you have been missed! Welcome back! (the Rev) Vince PS I'd close the Cd with the Wyonna version of YTMOIAR from the TNT tribute ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cat Stevens NJC - --- pyramus@lineone.net wrote: > ---------- > >> says you can't sing?> > > > >I didn't write this. > >bw > >colin > > Whoops, sorry to misrepresent you Colin. It was > young Catherine I think. > No, it was me - old Catherine! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:37:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) - --- Jenaya Dawe wrote: > > Anyway, I've had "You Turn Me On..." stuck in my > head for a week, and it has > me thinking of other songs about radio. I'm putting > together a thematic CD > and I was wondering what y'all would suggest. > Here's what I have so far: > > "YTMOIAR" - Joni > "Are You Out There?" - Dar Williams > "Radio Song" - REM > "Video Killed The Radio Star" - The Buggles > "Mexican Radio" - Wall of Voodoo > "Screenwriters Blues" - Soul Coughing > "On the radio" by Donna Summer "Radio Sweetheart" by Elvis Costello Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:38:17 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) << What else can you guys think of? I know there's tons, this could turn into a 2 CD project... >> Jenaya, a BIG welcome back to you!! And the synchronicity of this blows my mind...I guess I should no longer be surprised, but I am. Just last night we were with friends, and I was talking about a new radio station a guy started in town. I said that I would work for the station as a volunteer, and my friend Ralph asked me what I'd play. I said I'd kick it off with "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio" + "Radio Radio" by Elvis Costello and "Mexican Radio". So what a pleasant surprise to see you show up with the question! Bob NP: The Fixx, "Secret Separation" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Happy birthday y'all NJC So many people with birthdays in July - yikes! I know I'm going to leave someone out, but here goes: Jimmy the Rev. Vince Rose Yael Leslie If I left you out, sorry! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:51:45 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: OJ and us NJC Yael, when we met last year, why didn't you tell me we had the same birthday? LOL Happy Birthday to you and Leslie! (the Rev) Vince did you know we share our birthdays with Elias Howe, inventor of the sewing machine, Tom hanks, and O J Simpson? Go figure... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:54:03 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Happy birthday y'all NJC Yael, Leslie and I share the same day... when are Jimmy's and Rose's? Could there be 5 of us on 9 July? (the Rev) Vince, still in his 40s! and never thought there would day that I would celebrate that! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:36:27 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) In a message dated 7/8/01 5:26:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jenaya@nobreakfast.com writes: > Anyway, I've had "You Turn Me On..." stuck in my head for a week, and it has > me thinking of other songs about radio. I'm putting together a thematic CD > and I was wondering what y'all would suggest. Here's what I have so far: > > "YTMOIAR" - Joni > "Are You Out There?" - Dar Williams > "Radio Song" - REM > "Video Killed The Radio Star" - The Buggles > "Mexican Radio" - Wall of Voodoo > "Screenwriters Blues" - Soul Coughing > > Van Morrison's "Caravan" is a must-add to this list. "Turn up the radio, so you know you got soul. Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up. That's enough." Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 19:03:39 -0400 From: "Paul Pennington" Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Jenaya; How about "Mohammed's Radio" from Linda Ronstadt's 1978 album "Living in the USA"? Paul Pennington Augusta, Georgia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 19:21:01 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Radio Free Europe - REM Radio Gaga - Queen Radio Silence - Nick Harper Listen to the Radio - Nanci Griffith Radio Fragile - Nanci Griffith Rex Bob Lowenstein - Mark Germino (about a radio DJ) Mr DJ - The Concept (ditto) Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith (album title, I can't remember if there's a song of that name) That's all I can think of now, unless you're after quantity over quality, in which case you could throw in Tiffany's Radio Romance. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:21:19 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Radio songs - now NJC Radio songs suggestions that you get from no where else: since I was beaten to the punch on Donna Summer, Superstar by the Carpenters (you're not really here, its just the radio... come back to me again and play your sad guitar.) Yesterday Once More by the Carpenters (when i was young / I'd listen to the radio / waiting for my favorite songs / when they played I'd sing along / It made me smile.... Every sha-la-la-la, Every wo-o-wo-o still shines, every shing-a-ling-a-ling that they're starting to sing / so fine... just like before / its yesterday once more.) Yes, I like the Carpenters! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 19:25:17 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) In a message dated 09/07/01 00:14:00 GMT Daylight Time, paulpenn@knology.net writes: << How about "Mohammed's Radio" from Linda Ronstadt's 1978 album "Living in the USA"? >> Or even better, Warren Zevon's original - sorry, that looks a bit like one-upmanship, and I don't mean it to be - but hey, Warren Zevon needs all the namechecking he can get! Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:20:59 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Hi Jenaya! Two years?! Wow, it's great to have you back! There's a great Harry Nilsson song, "Turn on Your Radio," that has also been recorded by Marc Cohn you might add. The radio compilation sounds like it will be fun to listen to. Hope to meet you at a Fest/Festette one of these days. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 18:42:50 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) A couple I can think of... Magenta Radio - Rusted Root On My Radio - New Bohemians Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:49:10 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Sorry my last post should have been tagged NJC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:48:27 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Ernie K-Doe, Johnny Russell Ernie K-doe gave us "Mother in Law" and died last Thursday in New Orleans. Johnny Russell of Grand Ole Oprey died last Tuesday in Nashville; he wrote "Act Naturally: which was such fun for Ringo to sing and us to listen to! Rest eternal grant them O Lord and let light perpetual shine upon them. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 01:11:41 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Friends of SpiritNJC > Although Mark and I are still debating which one of us will be Emmylou's > next husband, mark! have you defected? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:12:08 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio songs - (NJC) In a message dated 7/8/01 7:08:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulpenn@knology.net writes: > ; > > How about "Mohammed's Radio" from Linda Ronstadt's 1978 album "Living in > the USA"? > > That's a Warren Zevon song. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 20:17:20 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC Caution As the discussion on Cat Stevens has unfolded, I am aware of some anti-Islamic sentiment being expressed, some quite vehemently. I am not by any means Islamic. I know Islam mainly through the political actions of the most extreme and fundamentalist groups of Islam. I know that Islam is as diverse as Christianity in its expressions. For those of us with limited knowledge of Islam, speaking as outsiders, I think we should consider that maybe we shouldn't be judging so. Judging the whole and worth of Christianity by Jerry Farwell and the right-wing tv evangelists - I wouldn't want that.. Judging Judaism by Dr Laura Schlesinger and militant Orthodox politicians in Israel - I wouldn't want that. Judging Islam by the Ayatollah and the Taliban and other excesses - I wouldn't want that and I warn against it. It is easy to castigate Islam because it is so "other" than us. Maybe it is our ignorance of the fullness of Islamic thought that makes them so "other" Christians, St. Paul tells us, are grafted onto the family of faith, which is the children of Abraham. But Ishmael (whose very name means "God hears") was also the child of Abraham. The treatment of Hagar, his mother, and Ishmael was despicable (Genesis 21). Despite - or because of - the disgraceful treatment of Hagar and Ishmael, God blessed Ishmael, as God has earlier promised would be done (Genesis 17). Genesis 21.20: "God was with the boy." The people of Islam trace their ancestry from Abraham through Ishmael. So let us be aware that the family of faith includes Ishmael and his descendants, and maybe as Cain and Able fought, as Jacob and Esau contended, as the mothers of Isaac and Ishmael were set against each other, that fights within families are the most bitter and we understand least the people most like us since we fail to see ourselves in them. Since we don't understand Islam well enough, since we know it only through its political extremes and fundamentalist factions which is not by any means the whole of Islam, since we are connected to Islam by a far greater degree than we realize, since from the beginning the people of Judeo-Christian heritage have not treated the people of Islam well... (what were the Crusades except slaughtering people of Islamic faith because they were "infidels" and why should they like us, and do we want Christianity to be judged on that or do we turn a blind eye to our evil and point out the wrongs of Islam as we have seen it in Ayatollah and Taliban) ...please lets not bash Islam. (the Rev) Vince, a faithful Christian who believes that God has come to us in Christ, but does not believe that God has limited the love and presence and knowledge of God to only the people who believe like Rev Vince does; I do not put limits on the reevaluations of God to others simply because they don't match my received revelations PS Please lets not bash Islam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:27:43 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Radio songs - (NJC) > > How about "Mohammed's Radio" from Linda Ronstadt's 1978 album "Living in > > the USA"? > > > > > > That's a Warren Zevon song. A Warren Zevon song that Linda Ronstadt recorded on her 1978 album 'Living in the USA'. I had to check on this one because I thought it was on 'Get Closer' but Paul PENNINGTON was absolutely right. There is a song on 'Get Closer' called 'Mr. Radio.' Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 02:35:15 -0700 From: Jan Lumholdt Subject: Re: Radio songs > What else can you guys think of? I know there's tons, this could turn into a > 2 CD project... Hi Jenaya, Donald Fagen - The Nightfly Harry Chapin - WOLD Two of the best, and excellent pieces of Americana at that. Cheers from Jan PS Oh, yes - Steely Dan - FM should be there too. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:57:35 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Friends of Spirit > The Seattle chapter of the JMDL met last evening for a wonderful extended > dinner and renewed old friendships and started others. Collectively the > group adopted Joni's "Black Crow" as their theme since we arrived by planes > to taxis to ferries and landed at the upscale Cutter's Bayside with its > panoramic view of the waterfront and mountains beyond. 'I took a ferry to a higway then I drove to a pontoon plane/I took a plane to a taxi and a taxi to a train.' Believe it or not it took some effort for us to remember all the means of transportation and their order in the lyrics of 'Black Crow' last night. Must have been the excitement and pleasure we all were feeling in each other's company. I think we finally managed to remember everything in the proper order. Not much to add to Scott's description of last night's mini-gathering. We enjoyed a leisurely dinner and the company was certainly first rate. Phyliss & Bob Ward are both warm and generous people. It was a pleasure to be able to sit down and get to know Phyliss a little better. And I really enjoyed Bob's sense of humor and open manner as well. Catherine Turley showed up with a bag full of live recordings by the likes of Jonatha Brook, Rickie Lee Jones, Emmylou Harris and Lucinda Williams that she generously distributed to Phyliss, Scott and myself. Thank you so much, Catherine! I'm looking forward to some great listening. It was a delight to meet you and Tom again. We have to get together again soon! These are first rate human beings, people! > > After four years I finally met my Northwest brother Mark, in Seattle, our > event coordinator. His choice of a meeting place was impeccable and his > company a treat. This was long overdue. I've enjoyed Scott's posts so much as the years have gone by. It was a pleasure to finally meet him. Thanks for making the effort to come down from Port Angeles, Scott. I hope you didn't have to wait too long for your ferry last night and that it wasn't too terribly late by the time you got home. Scott seems to radiate warmth & congeniality. He would be a welcome addition to any gathering & I thank him for making the trip to join our group last night. > Although Mark and I are still debating which one of us will be Emmylou's > next husband, we did manage to feel that special bond that JMDLers have. > Phyliss and Catherine echoed this sentiment...you know the one...when after > years of buying the albums, listening to them over and over and over in > solitude, and more years spent in amazement wondering how Joni's music > connects so deeply with your soul, you find there are others out there who > feel the same. It's truly amazing how people who love Joni seem to connect. Her music seems to attract good people in general. > > Mark, let's not wait another four years to share some conversation. > Catherine, one of my special list friends, it was great to see you again. > And Phyliss, you and Bob have a great thing going...I wish you much success > and happiness. Thank you all for spending the time. You provided a night > which will be a treasured memory. No Scott, we won't wait that long to meet up again. Thank you, Phyliss and Bob for a wonderful dinner. Thank you, Catherine, for all the great music. And thank you all for your wonderful company last night! The next time I hope we can get some more Seattle area listers together. (Good to see you back, Jenaya!) Mark in Seattle PS: Don't worry, Colin. I'm beginning to think Emmylou is far too much of a free spirit to settle on either one of us. So the likelihood of my defecting is very slight! Besides, after Scott told me about her fondling his thigh, I began to have my doubts about her. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Parker-Burns Subject: Hello Again! (...Ok, Where do I Begin) Hello Again! This is now, I guess, my third incarnation on this list in the past couple of years...Amherst, Massachusetts, Washington, DC and now Taipei, Taiwan. Thanks to the great computer scene here I now have a great scanner and a CD burner...so if there is anyone in Asia who might need anything from almost any of the Joni (and the "Frier" Bob's cover CDs volumes 1-8) tape trees I would be happy...more than happy to get you what you need...just let me know. Here in Taiwan I am finding myself in an almost complete void of hip music. The majority of what I hear sounds like Chinese Air Supply (no offense to the Cetera fans). Even the local Tower Records is sorely lacking in some of my strange tastes (all must hail Neutral Milk Hotel,Andrew Bird, 1920s Hawaiian jazz, Steven Malkmus, and Cat Power...all of which I can't find anywhere here yet get me through my day...besides of course Joni et al). I have continued my random acts of Joniness crusade by finding curious Taiwanese folks who have either never heard of Ms. Mitchell (and love the Sarah McLaughlin, Tori Amos, Loreena McKinnet etc etc) or perhaps have heard but have no idea...by sneaking them a personal compilation CD or two. A while back my mother requested some Joni. She had bought the "Hits" CD so as to remind herself of me and my passions so I went about putting together my own "hits" CD...only to find that it actually took two CDs to do it. Here is the track lists: The first CD is called "Banquet"... Banquet, The Hunter (Good Samaritan), Cactus Tree, Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire, The Pirate of Pennance, Don't Interupt the Sorrow, For Free, I Think I Understand, Sunny Sunday, The Fiddle & the Drum, The Arrangement, The Jungle Line, The Priest, The Wolf that Lives In Lindsey, I Still Miss Someone (with Johnny Cash), Long Black Veil ( with J.C.), Girl from the North (w/ JC), Mr. Tamborine Man (w/ Pete Seeger), and Both Sides Now (w/ Pete Seeger + the extra verse). The second CD is called "Silky Veils"... Silky Veils of Ardor, All I Want, Passion Play, Blond in the Bleachers, Conversation, Fro the Roses, Smokin' (Try Another), Hejira (from the Gene Autrey Museum gig), court and Spark, Just Like This Train, Night in the City, Slouching Towards Bethlehem, Night Ride Home, Songs to Aging Children Come, Turbulent Indigo, Brandy Eyes, Carnival in Kenora, Winterlady, and Just Like Me. For those of you who are intimate with these songs you may be able to hear the sequencing flow in your heads. Well, as you can see, I'm still committed to the cause and am looking forward to getting caught up on the news and any recordings I may have missed since the Merryweather show in MD. Again, any folks out here in Asia who need a "hook-up" just let me know. Take care, Julian Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:18:12 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Caution (md) I would wholeherartedly agree with The rev in this case. One of the things that is very wrong in our society is the simplistic notion that any one example covers the whole subject. I have had the opportunity myself to sit and have lengthy discussions with a serious practicing follower of islam one who really knows the Koran and i happen to believe that one of the biggest factors contributing to the ignorance is a lack of knowledge. It may be a fault of the Islamic community for not expressing their views enough thereby allowing the most radical cells to form the reality that is percieved by the populace at large. . I have no idea which sect of the Islamic world that Cat Stevens belongs to. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 20:28:41 -0500 From: Steve Anderson Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Love radio songs. Radio Radio Elvis Costello FM Steely Dam Border Radio Dave Alvin Steve AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > > Radio Free Europe - REM > Radio Gaga - Queen > Radio Silence - Nick Harper > Listen to the Radio - Nanci Griffith > Radio Fragile - Nanci Griffith > Rex Bob Lowenstein - Mark Germino (about a radio DJ) > Mr DJ - The Concept (ditto) > Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith (album title, I can't remember if there's a song > of that name) > > That's all I can think of now, unless you're after quantity over quality, in > which case you could throw in Tiffany's Radio Romance. > > Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:04:12 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) Turn Your Radio On - the late John Hartford Rainy Night House - Joni "you are a holy man on the FM radio" Wavelength - Van Morrison involving radio waves: Radar Love - by ? stretching the concept: Western Union - Five Americans Welcome back, Jenaya!!! Jenaya Dawe wrote: > First of all, hello to some familiar names (Bob, Kakki, Mark), I've been > off-list for about 2 years and just signed back up - took me awhile to figure > out some of the new email addresses! I'm sorry to hear I missed a Seattle > get-together last night - I live a block from Cutter's! > > Anyway, I've had "You Turn Me On..." stuck in my head for a week, and it has > me thinking of other songs about radio. I'm putting together a thematic CD > and I was wondering what y'all would suggest. Here's what I have so far: > > "YTMOIAR" - Joni > "Are You Out There?" - Dar Williams > "Radio Song" - REM > "Video Killed The Radio Star" - The Buggles > "Mexican Radio" - Wall of Voodoo > "Screenwriters Blues" - Soul Coughing > > What else can you guys think of? I know there's tons, this could turn into a > 2 CD project... > > Best to ALL! > Jenaya ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 22:21:20 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Joni in NYT magazine Did anyone read the New York Times magazine today? There was an interesting article about the similarities and differences between poetry and rock song lyrics. It was insightful and mentioned Joni 4 or 5 times. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 23:05:42 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: George Harrison with brain tumor (njc) George Harrison treated for brain tumor - paper Reuters Jul 8 2001 7:20PM ZURICH, July 8 (Reuters) - Ex-Beatle George Harrison, who has fought throat and lung cancer, has been treated for a brain tumor in a Swiss cancer hospital, the Sonntagszeitung newspaper said on Sunday. The paper said Franco Cavalli, cancer specialist and parliamentary floor leader for the Socialist Party, did not deny he was treating the 58-year old guitarist at the San Giovanni hospital but declined to give details. According to Sonntagszeitung, Harrison was in Bellinzona in the Italian-speaking south of Switzerland during May and June for radiotherapy. The paper said Harrison had rented a house in Luino in Italy, a 40-minute drive from Bellinzona, during the treatment. Harrison's lawyer and his spokeswoman had no comment on the treatment, it added. The paper said Harrison received cobalt radiation. In May, he had a cancer-like sore removed from his lungs in the Mayo hospital in Rochester, United States. He also received radiation treatment for throat cancer in 1998. The Sonntagszeitung said it was not clear whether Harrison was still being treated in Bellinzona or had returned to his house in Hawaii. Reuters/Variety - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:04:12 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Radio songs - (NJC) >Linda Ronstadt. There >is a song on 'Get Closer' called 'Mr. Radio.' > an absolutely great song, that ended up on my first female vocalist mush tape in the early '80s, so i've listened to it to death. thomas dolby's first album, 'golden age of wireless', is of course an album ABOUT radio (among other things, of course). it contributes two songs: - -radio silence - -airwaves how about 'static on the radio', by planet p. does anyone else remember that album. a long time cheesy favorite for me... patrick np - tallis scholars - gaude gloriosa - tallis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:40:35 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Radio songs - (VLJC) > "YTMOIAR" - Joni > "Are You Out There?" - Dar Williams > "Radio Song" - REM > "Video Killed The Radio Star" - The Buggles > "Mexican Radio" - Wall of Voodoo > "Screenwriters Blues" - Soul Coughing > > What else can you guys think of? I know there's tons, this could turn into a > 2 CD project... "The Spirit of Radio"- Rush Hi Jenaya! Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:43:44 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: july 9!!!!!!!!!!!! NJC Our beloved birthday fairy wrote: > LESLIE MIXON > > AND > > YAEL HARLAP > > have their birthdays on july 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy birthday Leslie and Yael and Rev. Vince, and to everyone else I've missed in the last couple of weeks! And happy anniversary, Colin. Also a belated happy 4th of July to all my US friends. Hell - a little bit behind, but finally starting to catch up ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 23:49:15 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Thanks, and a question From: "diego copado" Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 02:23:19 -0300 I want to thank to all of the people who answered my e-mail. I will buy an album next tuesday, in the store they have a double album called dog eat dog and wild things run fast, and court and spark. Wich one should i buy? I have been listening to Hejira and it is an amazing album.It's incredible the way she can describe situations and places. My favourite songs are Amelia, a strange boy, refuge of the roads, hejira and Furry sings the blues.I love the paragraph when she sings - He points a bony finger at you and says i don't like you.Everybody laughs as if it is the old mans standard joke but it is true, we are only welcome for our drink and smoke. I love that sentence. I am quite happy today,our sub-20 soccer selection won the world cup. In Argentina we are in a terrible recesion since 1998 and we don't have usually good news. Olthought it won't change our economical situation,at least it is a good new. To forget the problems for a moment. AND It is good to see that wherever i find good music, i find smashing pumpkins fans. ; ) Well bye ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #284 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?