From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #251 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, June 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 251 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Joni Articles: June 10 [les@jmdl.com] Today in Joni History: June 10 [les@jmdl.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #178 [Mauski4648@aol.com] Re: Laurie Anderson(njc) [catman ] NJC Re: Painting With Words and Music ["Diane Evans" ] Re: Choosing a name NJC [Catherine McKay ] Choosing a name NJC ["Rob Ettridge" ] Audiophile's Corner; NJC- "Vinyl Rocks" ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Choosing a name NJC [reddirtroad1@yahoo.com] Re: Choosing a name [Randy Remote ] Re: Choosing a name NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Audiophile's Corner; NJC- "Vinyl Rocks" [Randy Remote ] Visiting London NJC [dsk ] Re: Court and Spark NJC [dsk ] Re: Choosing a name [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] h.elp finding a date and venue [Bounced Message ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:08:18 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Joni Articles: June 10 On June 10 these articles about Joni were published: 1979: "Joni Mitchell Has Her Mojo Working" - Los Angeles Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790610lat.cfm 1979: "Mitchell Enters The Jazz Age" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790610latx.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 600 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles Contributions always welcome! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:08:18 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: June 10 On June 10 in Joni Mitchell History: 1997: Joni is inducted into the Songwriter's Hall of Fame. From Wally's Bio Page: [Today] in New York City, Joni is to be honored with yet another award- The Songwriters Hall of Fame. At the organization's award dinner, Joni is being celebrated in the category of "international" songwriter, and will join Phil Spector, Harlan Howard, Ernesto Lecuona and Jimmie Kennedy as the 28th annual inductees. - ------------------------ Search (and contribute to) the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:50:25 EDT From: Mauski4648@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #178 In einer Nachricht vom 10.06.2001 8:32:02 Uhr schreibt les@jmdl.com: << Georgia O'Keefe will be there, but Vincent Van Gogh is in the south of France, >> Dear John Kelly, what wonderful company you share, give my love to Georgia. Would you mind inviting that wonderful painter Joan Mitchell whose huge paintings I enjoyed at a show in Kaiserslautern some weeks ago... Wish I could walk around Powerscourt right now..Greetings to Dublin! Karin from Germany ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:14:49 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Laurie Anderson(njc) Thers is a new film out about a Cuban writer which has Lauire anderson on the soundtrack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:17:20 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: NJC Re: Painting With Words and Music Brenda wrote: >They've been airing all of the Sessions At West 54th episodes over the > >last month and it's been fantastic. I've always enjoyed this program. It offers the opportunity to listen to performers I haven't heard before and sometimes be introduced to something really special. Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:21:07 +0100 From: "Rob Ettridge" Subject: Choosing a name NJC Just thought I'd let those of you who are interested know that I'm changing my email. Although I'm not the most frequent of posters to the list, I've been in contact with quite a few people off-list, and I'd hate for anyone to think that I'd disappeared. Also, when I next post, you'd all think it was someone new. Overnight, a few weeks ago, I got a deluge of spam, and it's just kept coming at about 20 or so messages a day. This meant that a lot of new personal email got bumped onto another page, and I lost track of what I'd replied to and what I hadn't. If I do a spam filter, it filters out the jmdl, which would never do! Although I'll still check the old one, I'll try to divert stuff to the new address. I figured that a Joni related name was in order. But what name? First I thought I'd go with one of my favourite songs, but Coyote is already taken, and I don't think I really want to be known as Strange Boy! I toyed with Don Juan's Reckless Son, but that's a bit of a mouthful, and I don't really feel like a Kingpin. Then a flash of inspiration! I'm known amongst my friends for having a wardrobe that is almost completely blue. Not a conscious choice, but if I ever have to choose, I always go for blue. So why not Blue Boy? It's not exactly one of my top ten, but the name also gives a nod to 'Blue' the album. So as soon as I've posted this, I'm unsubbing and then resubbing as blueboy@somethingorother.com. Since deciding on this, I've noticed that the new Ron Sexsmith album is called Blue Boy, so there's another reason! A friend tells me that blueboy is slang for a porn star in Russian, but I guess I'll just have to take his word for that and be careful who I email in Moscow! While I'm posting, I might as well do some shameless promotion. A friend of a friend is starting to do some gigs and has put together an album of tracks that some of you might be interested in. If you want to try out a new artist, go to www.peoplesound.com and then in 'Peoplesound artists' search for Carl Eaton. You should eventually get redirected to his homepage where you can download a few of the songs from his album for free. You can also buy the album through the site. Hopefully in a couple of weeks he'll be performing at the Kashmir Klub, which is fast becoming a regular London haunt for some jmdlers. Some of us met there on Tuesday in honour of Debra coming over from NYC. And I think a small fan club is forming among us for one of the performers - Lizzie Segal. Anyway, better go Rob NP Jane Wiedlin - Sooner or Later _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Choosing a name NJC rob, I used to use Hotmail and found the same thing - tons of spam and no real way to filter it that wouldn't also filter out some (but not all) jmdl stuff. Someone at the time recommended that I try yahoo, which I did, and guess what? no spam! - --- Rob Ettridge wrote: > Just thought I'd let those of you who are interested > know that I'm changing > my email. >... , a few weeks ago, I got a deluge of spam, > and it's just kept > coming at about 20 or so messages a day. This meant > that a lot of new > personal email got bumped onto another page, and I > lost track of what I'd > replied to and what I hadn't. If I do a spam > filter, it filters out the > jmdl, which would never do! Although I'll still > check the old one, I'll try Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:04:22 -0500 From: "Rob Ettridge" Subject: Choosing a name NJC Catherine Thanks for advice. I tried yahoo, but blueboy was already taken, and by then my mind was set. They offered me blueboy105 - can there really be 104 blueboys already? Hmm Apparently blueboy is the name of a gay porn mag in the US as well, which kind of figures. Oh well, times are hard at the moment, so if I do decide on a change of career (or maybe just as a sideline), the name could come in useful ;-) I did think of maybe using Willy, but not only is it already kinda taken (Willy the Shake), considering recent discussion, I'd probably have to specify circumcision status! Obviously my mind is the gutter at the moment... Rob NP Kristen Hersh - Echo >From: Catherine McKay >To: Rob Ettridge , joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Choosing a name NJC >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:42 -0400 (EDT) > > >rob, I used to use Hotmail and found the same thing - >tons of spam and no real way to filter it that >wouldn't also filter out some (but not all) jmdl >stuff. > >Someone at the time recommended that I try yahoo, >which I did, and guess what? no spam! _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:21:09 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Audiophile's Corner; NJC- "Vinyl Rocks" Years ago, when "Trio" came out, I bought it on CD. Do you remember this project? I was a joint project of Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris, and most significantly, Dolly Parton. The sound of the CD, or my entry-level, early digital player, or the combination, were really hashy. Dolly's incredible, G*d given vibrato sounded a little like a playing card in a bicycle spokes, or like someone shuffling cards, or an FM radio playing inter-station hiss and being turned up and down real fast. It was..... pretty miserable. I traded the CD to a country music fan but I missed the music. I resolved to pick it up on vinyl if I ever ran across it. Yesterday I found a mint copy at the so-called antique mall on vinyl for...... (wait for it)...... $3 and the sound is wonderful. I wish I had kept the ratty old CD so I could do the demo for friends. Lama np: "Trio" by Dolly, Emmylou, and Linda. Beautifully deployed banjos, mandolins, slide guitars,and electic bass. Yum. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:38:19 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Treading Water (NJC) Hello All- I have had lots of phone calls over the past few days wondering how we are fairing thru all of this weather. And despite all the reports of "they are trying to wash us away", we are still here. That bloody storm reformed over the gulf and is headed our way. It dumped about 40 inches on Houston, but I heard from some friends there including JMDL'er Donna Binkley and everyone seems to be fine. Heads up Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi as all this stuff is headed your way. Take good care all and if some guy comes by in an Ark, I would advise you to catch a ride. Best Michael NPIMH-Louisiana, there trying to wash us away, there trying to wash us away ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:58:59 -0400 From: reddirtroad1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Choosing a name NJC At 08:21 AM 06/10/2001, you wrote: >[...] >Overnight, a few weeks ago, I got a deluge of spam, [...] >I figured that a Joni related name was in order. But what name? Hi - Since I joined the list I haven't been able to keep up with most the mail, but I did notice this post. First, I agree with the person who recommended Yahoo! Mail - not only haven't I had spam since I've been using it, but you can configure it so you receive it to your own email reader (Eudora, Outlook, etc.) and you don't have to read it off the web; it comes right into your box. Very convenient. Second, regarding a Joni related name, I'm so sorry I haven't replied to the question am I an EmmyLou fan (Red Dirt Girl), been so busy, but this is a good time for me to say I took my Yahoo name just for this list. In California, on Blue she sings, "I went to a party down a red dirt road / there were lots of pretty people reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue" (I hope I got that lyric right). I happen to live on a street called Red Dirt Road (not the one she's singing about, I'm sure) and I always hear her saying, "I went to a party down *on* Red Dirt Road..." Blue is my favorite album too, btw. I don't have them all, I'm not nearly as Joni-knowledgeable as the rest of you but I consider myself a fan. I just picked up Hejira this week and have been listening to it for the first time. If Blue is my favorite (I've got C&S, Turbulent Indigo, and now Hejira), what would you recommend next? Contrary to what I see here, I'm not in love with Court and Spark - sounds too commercial/pop for my taste. - - Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:20:24 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Choosing a name For The Roses is the masterful followup to Blue- Still mainly acoustic-pianos and guitars-before she went to the band sound on C&S and HOSL. Also Don Juan's Reckless Daughter-another masterpiece. More electric/jazzy but not the pop-rock sound of C&S- Then I would check out the 1970 BBC concert she did with James Taylor-she the jmdl tape tree section for info on that one. Also Ladies Of The Canyon, the one before Blue-a classic and pure Joni. And then...and then...ah, so many albums to go..... Welcome to the list! RR reddirtroad1@yahoo.com wrote: > If Blue is my favorite (I've got C&S, Turbulent Indigo, and now > Hejira), what would you recommend next? Contrary to what I see here, I'm > not in love with Court and Spark - sounds too commercial/pop for my taste. > > - Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Choosing a name NJC - --- reddirtroad1@yahoo.com wrote: If Blue is my favorite (I've got C&S, > Turbulent Indigo, and now > Hejira), what would you recommend next? Contrary to > what I see here, I'm > not in love with Court and Spark - sounds too > commercial/pop for my taste. I'd go for "For the Roses". Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:31:50 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Audiophile's Corner; NJC- "Vinyl Rocks" FWIW, they put out Trio II a year or two ago. Same basic premise. One of the coolest cuts from the sessions for the first album,"Mr. Sandman" (a real homage to Les Paul and Mary Ford), ended up on Emmylou's great album "Evangeline". I think "The Boxer" was another from those first sessions-but which album was that? Roses In the Snow, maybe? I know what you mean about the Trio album being so harsh. Sometimes I wonder if half the reason vinyl sounds better is because the upper frequencies generally cut out at 13 or 14khz. I would wager that just cranking the treble control back on the CD makes it more listenable. Still, some CD's definitely sound better than others. RR Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Years ago, when "Trio" came out, I bought it on CD. Do you remember this > project? I was a joint project of Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris, and most > significantly, Dolly Parton. > > The sound of the CD, or my entry-level, early digital player, or the > combination, were really hashy. Dolly's incredible, G*d given vibrato > sounded a little like a playing card in a bicycle spokes, or like someone > shuffling cards, or an FM radio playing inter-station hiss and being turned > up and down real fast. It was..... pretty miserable. I traded the CD to a > country music fan but I missed the music. I resolved to pick it up on vinyl > if I ever ran across it. > > Yesterday I found a mint copy at the so-called antique mall on vinyl > for...... (wait for it)...... $3 and the sound is wonderful. I wish I had > kept the ratty old CD so I could do the demo for friends. > > Lama > > np: "Trio" by Dolly, Emmylou, and Linda. Beautifully deployed banjos, > mandolins, slide guitars,and electic bass. Yum. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:44:31 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Choosing a name/visiting London NJC Rob Ettridge wrote: > ... at the Kashmir Klub, > which is fast becoming a regular London haunt for some jmdlers. Some of us > met there on Tuesday in honour of Debra coming over from NYC. And I think a > small fan club is forming among us for one of the performers - Lizzie Segal. Hi Rob, What an honor and pleasure it was to meet so many charming British joni-siblings! It was wonderful having the chance to talk and laugh and listen to new music and feel those wonderful Kashmir Klub vibes with you and Steve and Chris and Jamie and Azeem (who so generously arranged it all) and Strings and Martin, way at the end of the table. I love being able to picture all of your beautiful faces now. The Kash is a great club with such a warm community feel that the cliche "feel the love" isn't too far off. Lizzie was my favorite that night too -- very inventive guitar playing and singing -- with Rosie Brown and her sexy voice a close second. It really was an enjoyable evening in every way, and now that I'm home and almost out of my jetlag fog, I'm warmed by the memory. Thanks to all of you for that! NYC's Fez awaits whenever any of you are able to jump on over the pond. I look forward to that already. Just let me know when... atb, Debra Shea who's feeling a little jarred by the harsh sound of NooYawkas talkin' after hearing those graceful British accents P.S. Good luck with your new name, blueboy :-) NP: Flashy tv news; it sure ain't the BBC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:08:31 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Visiting London NJC And while I'm thinking about my visit to London... what a great city it is!!! Very complex and old and safe-feeling and as confusing as walking around downtown New York with the little winding streets with names instead of numbers, but much more solid looking than NY. Because of Azeem's gracious and incredibly patient hospitality ("I take what bus, again? Where do I go after that? The tube's where?"), I saw a London I'd never have seen without such guidance. I managed to get to Buckingham Palace and the Institute of Contemporary Art by myself, but would never have found the Kashmir Klub or the Borderline to see Pooka or the 12 Bar Club to see Caroline Trettine or Ocean to experience the rich, emotional voice of Christine Collister, and also have the opportunity to meet all of those wonderful performers. And have the chance to talk talk talk and learn about life from a Brit's point of view... cricket and politics (very interesting seeing the campaign there and going to the polling place; an X made with a pencil makes such sense!) and putting the kettle on, several times a day, and just walking and looking and taking in the atmosphere. A thousand thanks, Azeem, you true Londoner, for a trip I'll never forget. Plus, amazingly, the only rain was a few drops on my last day there... not at all the rainy London I expected. Life is full of surprises. Debra Shea about to "put the kettle on" to make some soothing very hot tea NP: Caroline Trettine, Ten Light Years, "Tears Idle Tears"... such a loving and honest artist ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:26:26 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Court and Spark NJC Hi Colin, Congratulations on Mitchell's success, especially for a first show! Your dogs are so beautiful, but I can only think of Mitchell and his companions as toe-lickers extraordinaire, which is probably not something the judges consider. Too bad, I can still feel the tickle of all those little welcoming tongues on my sandaled toes. Maybe it's a talent the judges need to know about, something to do with expressing affection. Surely that's worth a few points... (or maybe they just thought I needed a washing). It was wonderful spending the day with you and your family and seeing Ely Cathedral (13th century!) and driving around the countryside and chatting about all sorts of things (of course). What a special time! Thank you, Colin. It was all so pleasant! Sending you best wishes always, Debra Shea NP: C Trettine, "Love Across Time" catman wrote: > For those interested in the advetnures of my dogs, Mitchell, aka > Tantra's Court And Spark, went to his first dog show today. there were > 18 dogs in his class. Mitchell came second. > Hi sister, Tantra's Dockyard Doris, (doris) got no where as she diecided > not to behave. Strange as she always behaves at class and Mitchell > doesn't.Seems Mitchell knows when it is the real thing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:55:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Choosing a name << If Blue is my favorite (I've got C&S, Turbulent Indigo, and now Hejira), what would you recommend next? >> Jen, Based on the fact that you like Blue, which is sort of stark musically, I'd recommend either of her first two, "Song To A Seagull" or "Clouds". "Night Ride Home" would also get a vote, and "Miles of Aisles" is a pretty good live summation of her work up to C&S as well. Bob NP: Radiohead, "You and Whose Army" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:34:31 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: h.elp finding a date and venue From: DNick926@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:44:36 EDT Hi I'm very new here, but have read the do's and don't's and am pretty sure this won't be out of line. I have a question about a disc someone sent me recently in trade. He doesn't have any more info than I can provide here. Labeled "Joni M" and "Greek Theatre" and, possibly, Boulder (I can't read the handwritting) it sounds like an outdoor show from the late 70's. She talks about doing "something new for me, writing words for Mingus' music" after the first song. I'm hoping to date the show and get confirmation on the venue itself. Also, if it exists, I'd love to check out a database with setlists. The website that led me here is great and gave me hope that there are people here that have the info and would be willing to share. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. deborah Who, by a pleasant coincidence, I got to listen to a live, acoustic cover rendition of The Circle Game this afternoon - at my son's high school graduation - and the young woman who sang it and the friend accompanying her on guitar did a great job. (It's track 5 on the disc I'm trying to I.D., btw) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #251 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?