From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #230 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 24 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 230 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Italiano ["paolo" ] RE: Italiano ["Wally Kairuz" ] pleasant/present tenses?? ["Lonely Painter" ] Re: pleasant/present tenses?? [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Huge Question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: pleasant/present tenses?? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Clouds & "I Think I Understand" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] A bit of humour ;-) (njc) [Brian Gross ] Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Huge Question ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) [cvickery@danielrealty.com] Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" [Mark Domyancich ] Jonigrass [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Jonigrass ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: Joniquotes (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Huge Question [Vince Lavieri ] S&L DVD [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Huge Question [Les Irvin ] Mathew Shephard [Vince Lavieri ] Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc [Scott and Jody ] Re: Nash in N.Y. - Jonifest ["Kakki" ] Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc ["Kakki" ] Re: Nash in N.Y. - Jonifest [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: S&L DVD [Catherine McKay ] Brief Joni mention in "Flare" magazine [Catherine McKay ] Re: Bad Days and Good days LONG some JC [Michael Paz ] Joni Stories [Michael Paz ] Real Live Musicians - Cowboy Junkies at Tower Records NJC ["Mark or Travi] Re: Russia Loves Joni [Michael Paz ] Re: Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:38:35 +0200 From: "paolo" Subject: Italiano Ma possibile che nessuno parla italiano? Quando si fa un festa per Joni qui a Roma. la citt` piy bella del mondo? Vi abbraccio tutti. Paolo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 04:46:47 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Italiano ciao paolo! sonno claudio [wally] nella argentina. parlo soltanto un po d'italiano. scrivite a raffaelle en londra: Raffaele Malanga [r_malanga@hotmail.com]. raffaelle e italiano. auguri!!!! claudio - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de paolo Enviado el: Miircoles, 23 de Mayo de 2001 04:39 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Italiano Ma possibile che nessuno parla italiano? Quando si fa un festa per Joni qui a Roma. la citt` piy bella del mondo? Vi abbraccio tutti. Paolo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 03:43:37 -0600 From: "Lonely Painter" Subject: pleasant/present tenses?? I grew up hearing the Segio Mendes and Brasil '66 'Chelsea Morning'. Help me out here, folks. I always figured the line was 'and we'll talk in pleasant tenses'. Others, like Neil Diamond (gag me, someone, at how he butchers songs) have sung: 'and we'll talk in present tenses'. Lyrics printed in Joni's 'Hits' booklet clearly say : 'present tenses' as well. As far as what I hear her sing, it could be either/or. At the Joni Mitchell Tribute, Colvin and Chapin-Carpenter also clearly sing :'present tenses'.Call me crazy, but I feel 'pleasant tenses' sounds better than 'present tenses'. Did Sergio simply change the lyric? This has been bothering me for some time now. peace,lonely painter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:40:21 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: pleasant/present tenses?? In a message dated 5/23/01 5:49:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kol_the_trini@hotmail.com writes: << Call me crazy, but I feel 'pleasant tenses' sounds better than 'present tenses'. Did Sergio simply change the lyric? >> Sorry, but the line is "present tenses," which to me makes a lot more sense. She is sayign we'll talk about and live in the moment. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:43:30 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Huge Question <> I don't think it's the fact that it'll fly off the shelf, but the huge profit margin that's the driver. Most of these boots get labeled as "imports" and get price tags of $19.99 and up put on them. Plus, Joni's catalog must still pretty well...my local store always has every one of Joni's CD's on hand at any given time. If not for sales, I'll bet it's mainly out of respect. << On another note, i have a HUGE question: Why isn't there a section for Joni pics on the JMDL site???? I would love to see a chronology of Joni's evolution in a photographic way!!! Wouldn't you?>> I definitely would, and I think this is a great idea...but be forewarned, Les will put YOU in charge of it! LOL! Personally, I LOVE managing the covers database...I had NO idea what I was getting myself into when I took it on, but it has been SUCH a great tool for learning more about Joni's music, the artists who have covered her songs, and even internet research in general. We can be very proud of both JoniMitchell.com & jmdl.com and the resources they provide us. I haven't seen any other music sites that even come close! Bob NP: Meat Puppets, "This Day" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:56:57 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: pleasant/present tenses?? <> That's an interesting comment...I think both phrases would work, as Paul has pointed out the actual lyric is PRESENT tenses, but PLEASANT tenses would be an interesting twist on the cliche, more along the lines of Elvis Costello's or Lorenz Hart's writing than Joni's. Interesting lyrics they are, too...the song sounds so joyous, yet its partly a plea to get her lover to stay (or else she's training her dog!) to celebrate future mornings like the one she's currently enjoying... I hadn't heard that (pleasant) in the Mendes cover, I'll have to go back and give it a listen. Further to that, I just picked a live '73 concert LP from an E-Bay seller in Brazil, so I'm anxious to hear the song performed in a concert setting...I would be a little concerned about a Brasilian transaction, but I just completed one that worked like a charm! (Beijos to my Brazilian friend...) Bob NP: Meat Puppets, "another moon" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:13:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" I've been listening to Clouds this week as it's been the "Joni du Jour" in my car this week. This morning I heard "I Think I Understand" and even though I had heard it many times before, for some reason it just jumped out at me just how gorgeous the guitar and the clarity of Joni's vocal on the unique melodic line really are! Wonder why there have been so few covers of it? Is the guitar part so difficult to play? Marcel, maybe you can shed some light on this...so far all I know of (besides Marcel's great version, unofficially released) is Christine Sullivan (Australian) who has done it. Changing the subject (but not the song), I was listening to the words this morning and noticed the chorus: I think I understand Fear is like a wilderland Stepping stones or sinking sand I know in one of the tape trees she talks about the "wilderland" as a Tolkien term. I've not read Tolkien and would love any insight anyone can lend on this. Was the wilderland a specific locale in the trilogy, where you either had to hit the stones or the quicksand? Also, I think it's noteworthy that by the end of the song Joni has changed the "or" to an "and"...I get the message that she's saying that if you have too much fear, then eventually you will sink, even if you think you're on the stones. Bob NP: Meat Puppets, "six gallon pie" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:21:51 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: A bit of humour ;-) (njc) From today's Bonehead of the Day Award list: ''It was ridiculous. I tried to get in three times. Each time I thought it was me getting it wrong. But every time I got in I couldn't open my doors. Shoppers in the street were laughing at me. I nearly smashed up the car, John Cleese-style, in frustration.'' Comment made by a motorist trying to park in a designated parking space after workmen in Wiltshire, UK repainted all the lines in the parking lot about a foot and a half too narrow causing motorists to knock off their side-view mirrors and dent their doors trying to fit into the spaces. Ananova 17-May-01 http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_295809.html have a good one, gang Brian np: Shawn Colvin "Whole New You" (goooooood album from her) - -- "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:36:17 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I think I understand > Fear is like a wilderland > Stepping stones or sinking sand > > I know in one of the tape trees she talks about the "wilderland" as a Tolkien term. I've not read Tolkien and would love any insight anyone can lend on this. Was the wilderland a specific locale in the trilogy, where you either had to hit the stones or the quicksand? Wilderland : A term for the lands of Middle-earth that lay east of the Misty Mountains. 'Wilderland' probably represents the Westron equivalent of the Elvish name Rhovanion. Generic equivalent to wilderness or wandering place. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:55:30 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" I know in one of the tape trees she talks about the "wilderland" as a Tolkien term. I've not read Tolkien and would love any insight anyone can lend on this. Was the wilderland a specific locale in the trilogy, where you either had to hit the stones or the quicksand? I don't recall a specific locale of quicksand, but in a general sense, fear was a very big theme in the Lord of the Rings...there were plenty of instances where a feeling of fear developed and a sense of dread(quicksand) overtook the person. This occured most notably in the case of Boromir, who was completely taken over by his desire for the ring, and Denethor who was filled with so much fear and dread that he set himself on fire and attempted to also burn his son, Faramir. It is especially difficult for Frodo and Sam Gamgee to continue on in the very end as they get further and further into the heart of Mordor. But it is by little steps (stepping stones) that they manage to succeed, from the very beginning, meeting at a restaurant by the Brandywine River, to being at the very edge of the mountain of fire. And when the hobbits return to their home, the Shire, you can see how they have changed remarkably from being timid and afraid(Pippin and Merry especially) to being strong and fearless, so that they drive out the army of bandits who have taken it over. Of course we could spend hours mulling over this subject but this is just my offhand response. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:09:42 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" <> Thanks, Victor & Jerry too! I meant to add that I checked our glossary prior to my post, and saw that "Wilderland" was not included. Les, maybe you can update with this info much like the "Yankee Yachts" entry I read! :~) Bob NP: Dead Kennedys, "This Could Be Anywhere" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:56:03 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC and Laura SJC In a message dated 5/23/01 8:42:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: > Patrick, > > Stephen is going to prebuy the tickets. Looks like it will be Friday if > you can't make Saturday. I will tell all. > Now there are five. > > Jerry > Hi Jerry, Patrick, and Francis and other interested JMDLers! I'll be checking on ticket availability for "Eli's Coming" (the Off-Browdway show inspired by Laura Nyro's music) tomorrow, and if seats are available, I'll book Friday night June 8th. I will be glad to purchase tickets for anyone who is interested in going. Please E-mail me off-list so that I can get an exact count. Thanks. Stephen (NP--Patty Loveless "That's The Kind Of Mood I'm In") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:49:44 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" I don't think it's a very difficult song to play on the guitar - I avoided it when the only tab available was half-assed and incomplete until Marian did another transcription of it. Well Bob, maybe those considering doing a cover of it realized that what they would do would never compare to Joni's version. :) NP-Grateful Dead, 5/8/77 Cornell Univ., All New Minglewood Blues (also in the CD changer this week, Weezer's Green Album) Mark Domyancich mark@jmdl.com / Harpua@revealed.net > Wonder why there have been so few covers of it? Is the guitar part so > difficult to play? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:36:19 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Huge Question SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > Plus, Joni's catalog must still pretty well...my local store always has every one of Joni's CD's on hand at any given time. If not for sales, I'll bet it's mainly out of respect. > > They are there for sales. Joni has one of best selling pure catalogs in the business. For instance, this week her catalog did cumulative sales of nearly 4,000 units. This week. And there's no marketing campaign going on to get that nor is there a new record out that's being promoted. She also hasn't allowed the label to release several different compilations - "greatest hits", "best of", "essential", etc. - for which she deserves much respect. Brenda n.p. The squawking of the crow being chased by the blue jay which is protecting its tree. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:33:23 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) ..aging children, I am one. http://www.zefrank.com/byokal/index.html - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:07:05 -0500 From: cvickery@danielrealty.com Subject: Re: Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) OHHHH this is SO cool! Thanks for sharing this with us, Julius! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:29:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" <> I suspect that this holds true with a LOT of her songs, but folks try anyway! ;~) Wouldn't this one sound nice though with a piano accompaniment? I think it could have a good bluegrass arrangement as well. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:36:58 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Clouds & "I Think I Understand" Or how about using a 12 string or doubling the guitar several times, like My Secret Place? The bluegrass version might be a little scary! Mark Domyancich mark@jmdl.com / Harpua@revealed.net > Wouldn't this one sound nice though with a piano accompaniment? I think it > could have a good bluegrass arrangement as well. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:20:00 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Jonigrass <> Well, the genre might not lend itself to the song lyrically, but I think that musically it would work very well. The same holds true for "Born to Take the Highway", I think that would translate well both lyrically & musically to a bluegrass format. There is a version of Woodstock out there from the "Pickin' on CSN&Y" collection, but I haven't heard it to know if it's more bluegrass or just guitar-based. Additionally, Earl Scruggs does "Both Sides Now", but I also haven't got it yet. Bob NP: REM, "Saturn Return" (nice return to form for my Georgia neighbors...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:01:13 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc so when i'm in michigan, she's too busy when she's free, i'm in canada and yet you'll forgive her ANYTHING she's such a SCREAM! she's a SWEET young thing and she'll ANALYZE YOUR DREAMS!!!!!! [in collaboration with dr. sig mondergreen...] she is your regular drummer-girl-next-door SHE'S WITTY she's merry she's our LOVELY LOVELY T E R R Y H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y says the BIRTHDAY FAIRY~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!! SIGNED: the jmdl refined distinguished horribly cute birthday fairy the BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:06:55 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Jonigrass > <> If you think jonigrass is scary try listening to AC Dixie, versions of ACDC songs done in a completely professional bluegrass style. When I first heard this band I was completely taken aback. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:10:18 EDT From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc In a message dated 5/23/2001 4:17:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y >> Wally! Thanks for the birthday wishes. Other than a year older, here is what I received today- A digital camera! The new Amy Tan book ...and my youngest bought (herself) the book "Spy Kids" and offered it to me so that I could read it to her at bedtime. Pretty sly, eh? Getting ready for dinner out, Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:19:01 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joniquotes (md) I read more than once the interesting interview with Joni that was being commented on a few days ago. I found and I am reprinting some of the more interesting quotes that cought my attention. You are free to comment on them as you wish. Im not angling to debate or whatever i just found them interesting so i thought Id share them since they are directly from Joni herself. <<>> <<< When I wrote "Both Sides Now" I loved the melodic movement of the standards of the previous era, which still had one foot in classical composition. The chords were quite sophisticated, whereas now you have any old Joe picking up a guitar who doesn't have that knowledge. I felt the music was degenerating in a certain way. So the idea was to keep some of the classicism and the sophistication going in my music without the degeneration that I felt was coming out of folk music. However, with that sophisticated melodic movement, you were limited to short phrases, whereas the folk-music influence the singer/songwriters were coming out of had longer lines. You could get into descriptive passages, but you couldn't move a lot of melody through those things. >>> <<>>>Also, lingering in everything from dancing to black rock 'n roll was this hybrid with African music. You know, African rhythm and blues meets Ireland with its rhythms. >>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<<< So I explored in that direction and came to the conclusion that everything - animal, vegetable and mineral - is muck under pressure>>>> <<>> <<>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:59:20 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Huge Question SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > We can be very proud of both JoniMitchell.com & jmdl.com and the resources they provide us. I haven't seen any other music sites that even come close! > Also we can be very proud of the covers. I showed them to a young (well, 22) friend who is also a rave dj and he was astounded that one artist that that many people cover her work that we know of... he didn't Joni Mitchell but he got excited on finding out about her. Bob's labor of love has revealed the depth of Joni's impact. Just another chance to say thanks Bob! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:01:33 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: S&L DVD Today amazon alerted me that my dvd on S&L has been shipped! So it is finally out of whatever limbo it was in and I will post about it when it comes! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:39:20 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Huge Question At 06:43 AM 5/23/2001, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: ><< On another note, i have a HUGE question: Why isn't there a section >for Joni pics on the JMDL site???? I would love to see a chronology of >Joni's evolution in a photographic way!!! Wouldn't you?>> Actually, we've been trying to start one. There's lots of photos collectively in our possession, it's just a matter of getting someone to do the organizing! Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:06:15 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Mathew Shephard AMC has just begun a fascinating look at the what really happend to Mathew Shepherd. Check it out if you will. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:56:15 -0500 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc Happy Birthday to an Incredible Woman!!!!! When I first joined this list many years ago, "Little Green" was being discussed. I had made a comment about adoption and the next thing I knew Terry sent me an off list email. Back then I was so naive and new to the internet, I was in shock that someone would take the time to write. She offered her help and thoughts. I'll never forget that. Since then I was fortunate to meet her at a Jonifest. She's such a warm and funny person. She's a wonderful guitarist and singer. Listening to her and Marian play together is beyond belief. They are Joni Sistas! I'm still looking forward to seeing her paintings....especially the ones with tire tracks all over them ;~) Love, jody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:21:20 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Nash in N.Y. - Jonifest I wanted to wish David Lahm and everyone in New York this weekend a wonderful time. Wish so much I could be there. Please send reports, photos, MP3 downloads and the usual ;-) Here's something from the CSN list that may interest some of you N.Y. partiers while in town: > Music Legend Graham Nash Will Show His Photographic Work At Brooklyn's > Acclaimed Howard Schickler Gallery > > May 24th Opening Will Debut Nash's 'New York Portfolio' > > BROOKLYN, N.Y., May 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Rock 'n Roll Hall of Famer and Artist > Graham Nash is most well known for his phenomenal music career, both as a > founding member of The Hollies, Crosby, Stills and Nash and Crosby, Stills, > Nash and Young, and as a solo artist. He has been involved with some of the > most important, influential -- and best -- music and humanitarian events of > the last four decades. Graham Nash is an equally gifted fine art > photographer, and his "New York Portfolio" has its inaugural exhibition at > Howard Schickler Gallery in Brooklyn, New York, opening May 24, 2001 from > 7-9PM. The show will run through July 20. > > Nash's "New York Portfolio," which encompasses twelve immediately striking > black and white images, will be both hung and displayed in portfolio format > at the Schickler gallery. The photographs are all 16" x 11" Iris Prints on > Somerset Velvet paper by Nash Editions of Manhattan Beach, CA, the > state-of-the-art digital Photographic printing company that Mr. Nash recently > launched with partner Mac Holbert. > > Of his Gotham-themed "New York Portfolio" Nash says, "New York City is a > wonderful place of chaotic extremes. You can find the deepest peace, > overwhelming beauty, and the ugliness of the human experience gathered in the > same moment. My work relates to that unrelenting quality of urban > eccentricity." > > The elegant portfolio includes amongst its dozen images ones entitled > "Subway," "Jack at MOMA," "Baseball," "Horse," and "TV Self Portrait." While > the immensely engaging photographs may share some of the straightforwardness > indicated by their titles, they are at the same time full of all the mystery > and complexity of New York itself. Curator Dennis High of the Center for > Photographic Art writes in his introduction to the portfolio: "We are caught > in the glare of neon by an artist who creates from the menu of the street. > He does not favor the object nor the person, they are all part of the visual > composite, a chine colle of light and composition that constructs the > statement of -- The City." > > Simultaneously showing at Schickler with "New York Portfolio" are the Nash > Edition Iris Prints of Robert Weingarten's exquisite landscapes. Both > artists will be present at the May 24th opening. Originally founded in 1975, > Howard Schickler Gallery moved in 2000 to Brooklyn's "D.U.M.B.O." waterfront > area directly under the Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges, an emerging artists' > enclave with warehouses dating back to the Civil War era. They are known for > their specialization in photographic images. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:31:31 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc Dear Terry aka Dr. Sig - Have a fantastic birthday and may all your dreams ;-) come true in the coming year! Raising my glass, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:09:30 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Nash in N.Y. - Jonifest In a message dated 5/23/01 9:41:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: > I wanted to wish David Lahm and everyone in New York this weekend a > wonderful time. Wish so much I could be there. Please send reports, > photos, MP3 downloads and the usual ;-) Here's something from the CSN list > that may interest some of you N.Y. partiers while in town: > > Hi Kakki, Thanks for the info. I would love to see his portfolio. I'll be taking pictures, that is if David brings the house lights up! LOL I hope someone will be recording the music. I wish you could join us. Later, Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: S&L DVD - --- Vince Lavieri wrote: > Today amazon alerted me that my dvd on S&L has been > shipped! > > So it is finally out of whatever limbo it was in and > I will post about > it when it comes! > > (the Rev) Vince I ordered through CDNow - and mine also shipped today. Wonder who'll get theirs first? Probably you because you're not an alien like me. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Brief Joni mention in "Flare" magazine I made the mistake of signing up for a subscription for Flare magazine, which is Canada's magazine for 30-somethings or thereabouts. It was a moment of temporary insanity, where I succumbed to an offer to get a WHOLE BUNCH of magazine subscriptions for ONE LOW LOW PRICE. This one was paid for ages ago and the subscription doesn't expire until the year 2003 at which point, I will be WELL BEYOND its targeted demographic, but will continue to receive monthly reminders that my thighs are too large, and that I should be spending thousands of dollars on dresses and shoes and so on, as well as the nauseating perfume samples they insist on putting in these things. What was my point? Oh yeah... There's a one page articlet (too tiny to be a full article) called "Planet Flare - Canada's Sexpots in History." Under the 60's/70's era, is this short blurb, along with a photo of Joni in the wheatfield/bangs era: "Joni Mitchell: She's brash, brilliant, smokes like a trooper and is rumoured to be the inspiration behind at least one Led Zeppelin song." There you have it. Joni in a nutshell. In case you were wondering... Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:09:06 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: may 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc > SHE'S WITTY > > she's merry > > she's our > > > LOVELY LOVELY > > > T E R R Y A very happy birthday to the lovely, lovely Terry! Hope your wishes all come true! Mark in Seattle > > > > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > > says the BIRTHDAY FAIRY~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!! > > SIGNED: > the jmdl refined distinguished horribly cute birthday fairy > > > > > > > > > the BIRTHDAY FAIRY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:35:47 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Bad Days and Good days LONG some JC Wow Terry, GREAT! Thanks for the kind thoughts and to all of you who sent them publically and privatly. The kids are fine and I am almost fine. I am finally going thru the list and trying to catch up. Terry I am SO excited that you are coming to Joni Fest. I have so much other stuff to tell the list but don't know where to start. HOW ABOUT HAPPY FUCKING BIRTHDAY TO YOU as well as Bob Murph the Surph and everyone else I missed whilst I was absent. Maybe I should start with som JC as I don't often do, but I read a quote in Rolling Stone last night that I am not sure anyone of you have seen yet. It is an article of quotes about Dylan turning 60. "No one has come close to being as good a writer as Dylan. He has grand themes, these ccast-of-thousands kind of songs, people running around with cats on their shoulders, street scenes. He did alot of urban landscapes, like "Desolation Row," where ther'e so much going on. What do I make of Bob turning sixty? Because of the youth-cultish nature of our industry, basically- I think it is very positive thing that someone of another generation survives. The obvious wish I have for Bob is his own line: "May you stay forever young". For the creature that creates it's all childs play. The Springfest in Pensacola was fun as usual. Lots of good music. I had a band called Josh Joplin on my stage and he was really a nice guy, way friendly, and wants to be on Jukebox when he ccomes thru New Orleans on tour. I did not get to catch Poco or Pure Prarie League, but I thought of Kakki and how she would have been glued to THAT stage. I also missed Willie Nelson, but could hear him when the music on my own stage died down a bit. I loves seeing Leslie West and Mountain. Corky Laing was a very nice man as well and we hung out the next day by my stage listening to the bands. My pal Rick came up from New Orleans to hang and ended up taking them (he nad Leslie) back to the hotel. I got a couple of Leslie West picks for my collection. My old pal Wayne Famous and his band the Producers were on my stage. He was a real keyboard gear head like me. They sounded great and I really enjoyed all those 80's songs. Kyle cracked me up when I asked him how I should introduce the band. He suggested I welecome of them as "80's has been superstars". Both he and the guitar player have such great voices. The Knack was pretty cool too. We had Gary Puckett and the Union Gap on our stage and while he is a great singer, he caught up in some casino driven show. American Hi Fi were full of energy as well as themselves, but they sounded good and the kids just loved them (they said fuck alot over the PA, of course they were popular). BB Mac from England went over like a led balloon. After a 17 minute set of singing to their own CD (with VOX on the track) they stormed off stage and into the tour bus to pout. Christian (the cute blonde one OH! they're all so CUTE what am I saying) apologized to me and told me that they were tired from a long flight from England and blah blah. At least he made the effort and the kind gesture as opposed to the "cute one in the middle" who blamed it all on one of my sound guys. Buddy Guy closed olut my stage Sunday night and he put on his usual no nonsense terrific show. He shorted us 30 minutes, but we did not complain cause we got out early and some of us went and heard Smashmouth for ahwile, before drinking Pensacola under the table and dreaming or maybe I dreamed Pensacola drank me under the table or anyways the beach was beautiful the next day and I am finally starting to feel like I am in my own body again. Best wishes to eveeryone on the list and I hope you all have a wonderful time in NYC. Iwish so much that I could be there with you guys, but I have not seen my children in 3 weeks and I owe them at least a weekend. I am in a deep funk about the whole thing tho. Everyone take their cell phones and call me alot esp. while people are playing at Lahm's. Love to all Paz NP-The Space Between-DMB on 5/17/01 8:32 AM, TerryM2222@aol.com at TerryM2222@aol.com wrote: > Michael, > > I'm so sorry to hear of your recent loss. I cringed, knowing there have been > so many for you lately. > Hopefully, the boys are ok, bumps and all. > > Now, celebrate that you'll get to see Jonatha! Heard Steady Pull on NPR and > promptly called the station to thank them. The DJ whispered that the program > manager has a secret crush on her (she played live on the air when she was in > Detroit recently) and he put me through to the guy. We chatted a bit about > Jonatha and Joni, whom he is also a huge fan of. > > Hopefully I'll get to hear more of both now. > > Hugs, > Terry > > www.addconsults.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:08:09 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Hello all- I have a copy of a Global Pacific Records release called Standards Zone with Jaco pn Bass Jon Davis on Piano and Brian Melvin on Drums. This record was cut a year before he died. Peace Michael on 5/20/01 6:25 PM, Chris Marshall at chris@secure-si.co.uk wrote: > I'm a little late into this discussion, but... > > For Jaco, look out for an album called "Jazz Street" on > which he appears along with Brian Melvin and a couple > of other musicians I forget right now. > > Good stuff, that I found purely by chance in a second hand > vinyl bin somewhere... It is available on CD, as I discovered > when I subsequently looked. > > Cheers, > > --Chris > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of dave >> foers >> Sent: 19 May 2001 01:06 >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? >> >> >> Can anyone recommend any recordings worth a listen to, with Jaco Pastorious >> and/or Pat Matheny, other than with Joni?. I just think the sounds they make >> on the Joni stuff is 'sooo' special and soulful, I'd like to hear more.... >> >> Best wishes >> >> Dave, Stoke-on-Trent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:08:07 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: I'm back!!!! njc Hey Zoobi- wondered where you been...good to hear from you. Jamie Zubairi wrote: > hello all > > I'm back from the depths of wilderness that was homelessness (living on > brother's sofa) and being without a telephone > > I hope all is well and I wish much Joni to all > > Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:14:04 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni Stories Welcome Doug- And don't hold back! Let us hear your stories soon. Michael in New Orleans (where Joni likes to hang out) on 5/21/01 8:24 AM, Doug Carlson at dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com wrote: > HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! JONI ATTENDED THE > SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN SASKATOON, > SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM MY AUNT AND > UNCLE. BESIDES ALL THAT, I HAVE BEEN A JONI FAN SINCE 1971, THE YEAR > BLUE WAS RELEASED. I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED EARLIER, BUT I WAS ONLY > 15 IN 1971, AND MY TASTE IN MUSIC WAS EVOLVING FROM THE BEATLES, BOB > DYLAN, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, AND PETULA CLARK! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM > ANY JONI FANS, AND WE CAN SHARE STORIES, ETC., AND I CAN TALK ABOUT MY > JONI CONCERT EXPERIENCES IN VANCOUVER AND ELSEWHERE, AND HEAR ABOUT > OTHER CONCERT AND JONI ENCOUNTERS! CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > DOUG > > http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:12:15 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Real Live Musicians - Cowboy Junkies at Tower Records NJC The Seattle Tower Records which is located near the Experience Music Project & the Space Needle is within walking distance of my place of employment. Last week I walked over there to browse (I rarely buy from Tower anymore - too pricey) and happened to see fliers for an in-store listener appreciation concert by the Cowboy Junkies. I've been a fan of this band for several years and since the start time was an hour after I got off work I figured this was very doable with a minimum amount of hassle. So tonight I bopped over to Tower and got there about 45 minutes before the start of the concert. There were already around 30 or so people there, most of them sitting on the floor directly in front of the performance set up. At some point some wisenheimer instructed everybody to stand up so they could squeeze more people in at the back. After the band had played their first song, lead singer Margo Timmins expressed her dismay that she wasn't taller so more people could see her. I don't think she especially liked singing to a wall of bodies standing directly in front of her. Some other much wiser wisenheimer in the audience says 'Wouldn't it be nice if we all sat down?' Margo agreed and so that's what we did. She seemed much more comfortable and relaxed after that and the result for me was that I had an unobstructed view of the band from about 15 feet away. It was an amazing and wonderful experience to watch these very talented musicians work from that close. The first thing that drew me to this band was Margo's incredibly expressive and lovely voice. Watching her sing at close range was so cool. I've always felt that all of these musicians are very down to earth people, not caught up in any kind of star trip. They just love making music and they work hard doing it. Margo said they had just come from Minneapolis to Seattle on their bus. I remember making that drive when I first moved here in August of 1978. I was only 24 at the time but we still took it in 2 days. Had to pull into a rest area in Montana to get some shut-eye. I can't imagine the grueling schedule performers on tour in a bus have to put in. The band performed some of my favorites - 'This Street, That Man, This Life', 'A Horse in the Country', 'Misguided Angel', 'Anniversary Song' - plus a few songs from their new release 'Open'. Michael & Margo Timmins seem to have a magical brother/sister thing happening onstage. She looks at him to get her cues for the next song and he has an expression on his face while she's singing & he's playing that is nearly ecstatic. I really felt that he was digging the shit out of hearing his sister express his words so beautifully. It must be great to have that kind of talent for writing and know that someone so close to you can get up and interpret it so perfectly & so beautifully. I took my copy of 'Waltz Across America' because I knew they always stick around to talk to the fans and sign cds and things after their shows. Unfortunately I haven't yet received my copy of 'Open' from Maple Music which I ordered online a couple of weeks ago. After doing the powerful 'Hunted' the band was done and we were herded outside to wait in line for the signing session. Once the line started moving I was at the table in no time & Alan Anton, Peter Timmins, Mike & Margo Timmins each scribbled something vaguely resembling signatures on my cd cover. I got a chance to tell Mike that I love his writing and to tell Margo I love the way she sings what Mike writes. They both seemed kind of at a loss for words and looked a little sheepish but they both thanked me very humbly. Real talent, real musicians and real people. Nice, down to earth people. That's my impression anyway. After that some Tower Records employee handed me a bag full of promotional stuff for Rhino Records' Aptitude Test (anybody know exactly what that's all about?) with some other assorted goodies, I walked across the street, got in my car, got on I-5 and zipped on home. I had never been to an in-store concert before this evening and I must say I enjoyed the experience a whole helluva lot. An intimate space, 45 minutes of free, high quality music, no money paid for parking and no problem getting out & home. Plus an autographed cd and a chance to express my appreciation to one of my favorite singer/songwriter duos. Who could ask for anything more? (except maybe rhythm which I'm sad to say I don't got much of) Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:22:46 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Russia Loves Joni Welcome Alexander! A very dear friend of mine moved to Russia married a girl and are now living back here in New Orleans. She loves the music here and the very first night in New Orleans I took her to House of Blues to see Eric Johnson (great guitar player from Austin, Texas). Also you can find alot of Joni related info at www.jmdl.com and you can learn to play her songs just the way she does thanks to many of our wonderful members on this list. Peace Michael (in New Orleans) on 5/22/01 5:53 AM, Jerry Notaro at notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu wrote: > Alexander, > > Your English is just fine, and your writing skills are even better. You > will find everything you ever wanted to know about Joni by pointing your > internet browser to > > http://www.jonimitchell.com > > Enjoy. > > Jerry > > np: Rufus Wainwright - Hallelujah (from the Shrek soundtrack) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:31:09 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Toys for Aging Children...(NJC) COOOL Julius! I have just dropped my last hit of Brown Acid from Woodstock and plan to spend the rest of the evening playing with my toy. Love Paz on 5/23/01 9:33 AM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > ..aging children, I am one. > > http://www.zefrank.com/byokal/index.html > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:46:20 +0400 From: "A.Yaroshenko" Subject: suggestions Dear Catherina! Many thanks for your letter. It"s always pleasant to feel not alone in this different and hard understandable world. If you are also interested in Russian Folk/Rock/Pop music and would like to have something in your collection, please call me again. I'd like to have some video materials (PAL) on videotapes about Jony Mitchei's concerts and, may be, private life. I can suggest a lot of any CD's which are not so expensive in Russia(as a rool, they are not licenced)- by post.Few words about me-38 years old , height 195 cm, weight 75 kg, married (with problems), son-age14, I'm an electrical engineer, hobbies-music, especially on an old LP's-many kinds, but mostly an American rock of the earlier 70-s. Hope to hear from you. I'm not Yahool, because it's difficult for me now to understand how to become It's member. Better to recieve the letters directly, from you, for instance. Pleace, wright me as simple,as you can. Thank You. Best regards, Alexander. yaroshenko@yit-peter.ru ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #230 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?