From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #228 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 228 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Map, the face and that glasss of wine [Gordon Mackie ] re: barbra and joni ["Neil E. Orts" ] Bootlegs... [CHRIS TREACY ] Re: Joni bootlegs in Austin [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni bootlegs in Austin ["Neil E. Orts" ] Re: Bootlegs... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: May 21st - Martin Carthy NJC ["Paul Castle" ] re: barbra and joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] a map of canada ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 [dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson)] Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Barbra and Joni ["Craig" ] Re: May 21st - Martin Carthy NJC [Gertus@aol.com] Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! (md) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Tribute Album ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? ["dave foers" ] More Pat Methney NJC ["brian symes" ] I'm back!!!! njc ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: Barbra and Joni [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Brian Wilson on Leno Tues njc [Randy Remote ] RE: I'm back!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Idea [dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson)] one more thought on the cartoon coaster njc [mags ] Re: I'm back!!!! njc [Jason Maloney ] Judy's Chelsea - clarification please! [Kay Ashley ] RE: May 21st !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 [Catherine McKay ] Re: Judy's Chelsea - clarification please! [Dflahm@aol.com] Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) [CHRIS TREACY ] Canadian Holiday today - Victoria Day NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:08:43 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: The Map, the face and that glasss of wine Dear All I was thinking that it is just as well we ditched the Church of Joni a while back. We could all be arguing now about the 'significance' of messages and images hidden and/or revealed to us in the Both Sides Now artwork. Or would we ? Eh? Wot? I have been drinking lots and lots of wine to see if I can identify the exact one in the painting. There is an Italian wine called Lachryma Christi. Could this be it? Icthis the Greek ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:41:10 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: NJC - bobs never ending tour/bootlegs hi a while back someone mentioned bobs never ending tour. i recently received a bob dylan bootleg tradelist from a friend. unbelievable!! he has 736 shows listed, with a total of 1,389 cds. - and is still looking for a number of cds to make up his collection!! 135 of those shows are from 2000/2001 alone!! i have to wonder if this is not some kind of a record??? ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Neil E. Orts" Subject: Joni bootlegs in Austin Well, last week I mentioned picking up what was billed as a "live import" that had an early concert of Joni's. Found out that I paid like 6 times what I should have for something JMDLers have on the tape tree. (I never participated on the tape tree just because I'm lazy. :) Yesterday, I came across something that looked of the same ilk, at a difference CD store. This was a 2 CD set, again of early Joni performances. The cover said from '67 and '68. I can't remember where it said they were recorded, but from the sound of it, it was some coffee house/club that Joni performed at regularly in those years. Anyway, they wanted something like 50 bucks for the set. I passed on it. Anyway, has anyone else run across these things? I find it interesting that I've seen two in different stores withing a week of each other. - -Neil ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neil E. Orts * Director/Student Services * And they say that it's never too late, Office of Graduate Studies * but you don't get any younger! University of Texas Austin * Well I better learn how to starve the emptiness Main 101 -- 512/232-3626 * And feed the hunger. neo@mail.utexas.edu * fax: 512/475-8851 * -Emily Saliers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Neil E. Orts" Subject: re: barbra and joni I"ve mentioned recently that it was Neil Diamond, primarily, who introduced me to Joni's music, but now that it's been brought up, I also recall Barbra's version of "I Don't Know Where I Stand" to be a factor in my deciding to pick up my first Joni album. In other words, I kept seeing her name on other people's albums, liking the songs, and finally going to the source of the genius. :) In other news, I find myself thinking about Perry Como, what with his recent passing. I was never a huge fan, but always kinda liked him. He seemed like a nice guy, someone it'd be comfortable to chat with. Surely he recorded a version of Both Sides Now somewhere along the way, didn't he? Anyone know if he recorded any other Joni songs? I'm just guessing, of course. - -Neil ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neil E. Orts * Director/Student Services * And they say that it's never too late, Office of Graduate Studies * but you don't get any younger! University of Texas Austin * Well I better learn how to starve the emptiness Main 101 -- 512/232-3626 * And feed the hunger. neo@mail.utexas.edu * fax: 512/475-8851 * -Emily Saliers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:53:20 -0700 (PDT) From: CHRIS TREACY Subject: Bootlegs... Hey there all, Since Rob brought it up, I definitely have seen an increase in Joni boots in the last few years. Yesterday, I went to a record collectors expo, and much to my chagrin, I discovered that the Hissing Demos, up until now what I considered to be a well guarded secret, have made it to the boot market, all dolled up with cheesy cover art (mainly using the shot for Rolling Stone's '79-'80 interview)...bummer. Whats more, there were copies all over the place! I'd estimate 7 different dealers had a copy prominently displayed on their table. By the way, Rob, the EAC program you 'lent' me solved my CD burning problem just fine. - -Chris, enjoying the (surprising) serenity of the new Ani CD. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:55:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni bootlegs in Austin <Anyway, they wanted something like 50 bucks for the set. I passed on it.>> Neil, I'd bet my underwear that what you saw was the "Second Fret Sets" compilation...while this has never been formally treed, it's been shared plenty here and is a great collection worth having. If interested, let me know and they can be yours for the cost of 2 blanks & postage...around 8 bucks as opposed to 50. Bob NP: Nirvana, "Serve the Servants" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:58:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Neil E. Orts" Subject: Re: Joni bootlegs in Austin At 9:55 AM -0400 5/21/01, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >Neil, I'd bet my underwear that what you saw was the "Second Fret Sets" >compilation...while this has never been formally treed, it's been shared >plenty here and is a great collection worth having. And you get to keep your underwear!!! That's it. Second Fret Sets. It looked like an interesting set, yes. >If interested, let me know and they can be yours for the cost of 2 blanks >& postage...around 8 bucks as opposed to 50. I may take you up on that, but I'm thinking, as I start looking at my apartment and the moving task ahead (I'm moving all my worldlies to Chicago in July) I may get back with you in July or August. I don't really need another thing to pack. LOL - -Neil who just purchased more CDs on Saturday anyway. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neil E. Orts * Director/Student Services * And they say that it's never too late, Office of Graduate Studies * but you don't get any younger! University of Texas Austin * Well I better learn how to starve the emptiness Main 101 -- 512/232-3626 * And feed the hunger. neo@mail.utexas.edu * fax: 512/475-8851 * -Emily Saliers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:30:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bootlegs... <> Well, Joni is one of the few MAJOR artists from the Classic Rock era that hasn't released a decent box set with rarities in it. I'll bet if they did it would quiet some of the bootlegging down, not that it's such a bad thing anyway... Does anybody in the CSNY world know if their boxset release of rarities had any effect on bootlegs? Bob NP: Nirvana, "All Apologies" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:44:20 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: May 21st - Martin Carthy NJC the birthday fairy wrote: > [all ruffled and tapping its foot like julie andrews in thoroughly modern > millie] This gives me a great excuse to report on Martin Carthy's 60th Birthday party concert at The Apollo Theatre in Oxford last night. (It's Martin's birthday today). Wearing a long white tunic shirt, at one point he was struggling to get his finger picks out of the pocket of his tight jeans' and mumbled, "That's what happens when you dress up like Julie Andrews on your birthday." It was a wonderful show - very emotional at times - hosted by Fairport Convention, with a cast of thousands, it seemed. Highlights for me included - Simon Nicol, fondly dedicating a song to Fairport's long- departed singer, who, as he put it, "fell off the stool some years ago", and singing a tear-jerking version of Sandy Denny's "Who Knows Where the Time Goes". - Simon Nicol again, giving a clue to a very special guest by playing the guitar intro to 'Scarborough Fair', with Dave Pegg walking off stage and coming back to say "he's not arrived yet", and playing instead a recording of Paul Simon's spoken introduction (from last year's London concert) talking about Martin's influence on him back in the mid-60's. - Martin, introducing the man he described as "for me, by far the greatest folk musician alive today, Dave Swarbrick." Although in a wheel chair and hooked up to a drip, he still managed to spark up some magic fiddling on a couple of songs with Martin. Although he has been very ill for quite a while, one UK national newspaper had actually announced that he had died and had even included a full page glowing obituary about him a couple of years ago. - I liked this, in last night's the concert program - "Reports of his death were much exaggerated." - Ashley Hutchings, singing a rewritten version of Dylan's Million Dollar Bash, accompanied by Fairport, with Rick Kemp, daughter Rose Kemp and Eliza Carthy on back-up vocals. Calling it 'Young Martin's Million Dollar Bash', it included a new verse about Martin going to see the Queen to receive his MBE, at which point in the song Maddy Prior walked out on stage and, mimicing the Queen's accent, said, "I don't know much of 'your' stuff. One prefers Bert Jansch" (it brought the house down!). - Ralph McTell, (billed in the program as 'Surprise Guest'), saying how everyone had kept his appearance a secret from Martin as a special surprise, BUT, within two minutes of arriving back-stage at the theatre, they had bumped into each other. "Oh, shit!, he said. - - French singer Gabriel Yacoub, whose songs I didn't understand but who still really really got to me! (reminded me a lot of early Bruce Cockburn singing in French). - - Tom Robinson, introduced by Martin as "one of the most inexplicably underated songwriters around", proving the point with a really powerful solo spot. - - Norma Waterson, with Waterson:Carthy, singing The Grateful Dead's 'Black Muddy Water' before the whole cast of thousands, plus Leon Rosselson, John Kirkpatrick, Roy Bailey, Brass Monkey, and the Bampton Morris Dance Team all came back to sing 'Moonlight on the Water', with Dave Swarbrick rubbing Martin's back warmly throughout. A great tribute to a lovely man. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:49:58 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: re: barbra and joni <> Neil, you wisely chose NOT to bet your underwear! Como never recorded BSN nor any Joni song. The closest he came was a song by NICK Mitchell! ;~) Bob NP: Nirvana, "The Man Who Sold The World" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:16:00 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: a map of canada CAN SOMEBODY SEND ME THE MAP? thanks, david ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson) Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! JONI ATTENDED THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN SASKATOON, SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM MY AUNT AND UNCLE. BESIDES ALL THAT, I HAVE BEEN A JONI FAN SINCE 1971, THE YEAR BLUE WAS RELEASED. I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED EARLIER, BUT I WAS ONLY 15 IN 1971, AND MY TASTE IN MUSIC WAS EVOLVING FROM THE BEATLES, BOB DYLAN, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, AND PETULA CLARK! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM ANY JONI FANS, AND WE CAN SHARE STORIES, ETC., AND I CAN TALK ABOUT MY JONI CONCERT EXPERIENCES IN VANCOUVER AND ELSEWHERE, AND HEAR ABOUT OTHER CONCERT AND JONI ENCOUNTERS! CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU! DOUG http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:12:19 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? One of my favorite Jaco listens is Weather Report's live recording titled 8:30. It's a beaut, but kind of hard to find - I think I found mine in the import section. Rumour has it that Jaco was clutching a copy 8:30 when they found his body - a real tradgedy. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:16:29 -0700 From: "Craig" Subject: Re: Barbra and Joni I was thrilled when I first heard Barbra doing a cover of "I Don't Know Where I Stand" on her Stoney End album. She covered many songwriters of that day, and paid tribute to each one in doing so. If Joni was to sing a Barbra song, let it be one Streisand has composed (which, granted, aren't many). Could anyone hear Joni doing a jazzy version of Evergreen? I imagine Joni's low vocal register doing marvelous things with that song. Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:22:55 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: May 21st - Martin Carthy NJC In a message dated 21/05/01 15:45:53 GMT Daylight Time, pdcmusic@freeuk.com writes: > > - Ashley Hutchings, singing a rewritten version of Dylan's > Million Dollar Bash, accompanied by Fairport, with Rick > Kemp, daughter Rose Kemp and Eliza Carthy on back-up > vocals. Calling it 'Young Martin's Million Dollar Bash', it > included a new verse about Martin going to see the Queen > to receive his MBE, at which point in the song Maddy Prior > walked out on stage and, mimicing the Queen's accent, said, > "I don't know much of 'your' stuff. One prefers Bert Jansch" > (it brought the house down!). > Sorry - mouse playing up! I loved all of your lovely report but especially the above because, as you know, I'm a mega Bert Jansch fan. Sorry to hear that Swarb is on a drip. That Telegraph obit. must have appeared at least 2 years ago now and, although I know he was in hospital at the time, I thought he had recovered. I can just imagine McTell's reaction on bumping into Martin too. Ralph is another truly good guy and a much underrated guitarist in his time, don't you think? Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:44:41 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! <> Hey there, and welcome, Doug! So tell us some stories about your school days with Joni! Were you in classes together? From what I've heard from her, she was never into school very much, except for her art class of course! ;~) Looking forward to hearing more from you! Bob NP(Now Playing): Laura Nyro, "Captain For Dark Mornings" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:07:45 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! (md) I second this emotion. Would love to hear some Joni school years stories. She ran for prom queen or something so she must have been well known. These are among the most interesting stories about any artist. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:18:28 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 Man, you must have been a kid when you and Joni were in high school! 15 in 1971??? Anyways, I would also love to hear any stories you might have of you and Joni. NP-New Bohemians, 11/28/94-Day Like Today Mark Domyancich mark@jmdl.com Check out the Joni Mitchell guitar archive: http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/ > From: dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson) > Reply-To: dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson) > Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:24:28 -0400 (EDT) > To: joni@smoe.org > Cc: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 > > HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! JONI ATTENDED THE > SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN SASKATOON, > SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM MY AUNT AND > UNCLE. BESIDES ALL THAT, I HAVE BEEN A JONI FAN SINCE 1971, THE YEAR > BLUE WAS RELEASED. I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED EARLIER, BUT I WAS ONLY > 15 IN 1971, AND MY TASTE IN MUSIC WAS EVOLVING FROM THE BEATLES, BOB > DYLAN, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, AND PETULA CLARK! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM > ANY JONI FANS, AND WE CAN SHARE STORIES, ETC., AND I CAN TALK ABOUT MY > JONI CONCERT EXPERIENCES IN VANCOUVER AND ELSEWHERE, AND HEAR ABOUT > OTHER CONCERT AND JONI ENCOUNTERS! CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > DOUG > > http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:23:31 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! (md) I don't think that Doug attended school at the same time as Joni, I think he's a little younger. But, welcome Doug and yeah we'd like to hear some stories about the concerts you went to. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:29:38 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Welcome to Joni's Schoolmate! <> Duh! Should have figured that out if he was 15 when Blue came out...I guess I got a little over anxious to hear some Joni school stories... OK Rev, now it's your turn to call ME an idiot! :~D Bob NP: Joni, "Chinese Cafe", Dublin 4/16/83 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:00:49 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Tribute Album So I finally talked to one of my friends at Warner. The Tribute album is still not scheduled. Generally production schedules at majors operate 12 weeks ahead, so at this rate it will likely be in the fall. He thought perhaps there were some issues with clearances which is what's holding it up but that they are trying to make it happen before the holiday season this year. I'll report more when I get it. Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:22:23 +0100 From: "dave foers" Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Thanks Jack for that, very much appreciated. i'll add your suggestion to the growing list!. I've already started to look things out. Best wishes Dave - ---------- From: Merk54@aol.com To: dfoers@globalnet.co.uk Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 5:12 pm One of my favorite Jaco listens is Weather Report's live recording titled 8:30. It's a beaut, but kind of hard to find - I think I found mine in the import section. Rumour has it that Jaco was clutching a copy 8:30 when they found his body - a real tradgedy. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:19:51 +0100 From: "dave foers" Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Thanks Chris for that, very much appreciated. I'll add it to the growing list!. I've started looking on ebay for some of the recommended albums. Best wishes Dave - ---------- >From: "Chris Marshall" >To: "dave foers" , >Subject: RE: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? >Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 2:25 am > > > I'm a little late into this discussion, but... > > For Jaco, look out for an album called "Jazz Street" on > which he appears along with Brian Melvin and a couple > of other musicians I forget right now. > > Good stuff, that I found purely by chance in a second hand > vinyl bin somewhere... It is available on CD, as I discovered > when I subsequently looked. > > Cheers, > > --Chris > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of dave >> foers >> Sent: 19 May 2001 01:06 >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? >> >> >> Can anyone recommend any recordings worth a listen to, with Jaco Pastorious >> and/or Pat Matheny, other than with Joni?. I just think the sounds they make >> on the Joni stuff is 'sooo' special and soulful, I'd like to hear more.... >> >> Best wishes >> >> Dave, Stoke-on-Trent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:34:29 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: vote for Joni! GO VOTE NOW...Joni is the only woman there & she is still second to last....she is even behind m&m! http://news.bbc.co.uk/" To save time, once you get there, click on "entertainment" on the left, then on "music" on the left of the next screen. When the next screen comes up, there is a "vote for lyricist" button on the right. Hope I did not offend anyone's intelligence here. Who is the greatest lyricist of all times? Bob Dylan 33.82% John Lennon 18.13% Paul McCartney 7.93% Eminem 3.40% Bob Marley 13.79% Joni Mitchell 3.22% Jim Morrison 4.43% Cole Porter 5.63% Irving Berlin 2.79% Paul Simon 6.86% 6822 Votes Cast ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:26:44 -0700 From: "brian symes" Subject: More Pat Methney NJC Pat gets around I just found him on a Joshua Redman's CD "Wish". Pat does some very controlled straight ahead work behind a great Sax player. NP Hissing Lawns in a Dry Portland. Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:04:53 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: I'm back!!!! njc hello all I'm back from the depths of wilderness that was homelessness (living on brother's sofa) and being without a telephone I hope all is well and I wish much Joni to all Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:09:36 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Barbra and Joni In a message dated 5/20/01 4:05:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, revrvl@chartermi.net writes: << got to wondering if anyone has a clue why Streisand never covered a Joni song? >> You're mistaken. She covered "I don't know where I stand" from "clouds." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:33:16 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 NJC Welcome, Doug to Joni World! Tell us everything you kn ow about the family! Local gossip, etc. (the Rev) Vince Doug Carlson wrote: > HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! JONI ATTENDED THE > SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN SASKATOON, > SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM MY AUNT AND > UNCLE. BESIDES ALL THAT, I HAVE BEEN A JONI FAN SINCE 1971, THE YEAR > BLUE WAS RELEASED. I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED EARLIER, BUT I WAS ONLY > 15 IN 1971, AND MY TASTE IN MUSIC WAS EVOLVING FROM THE BEATLES, BOB > DYLAN, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, AND PETULA CLARK! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM > ANY JONI FANS, AND WE CAN SHARE STORIES, ETC., AND I CAN TALK ABOUT MY > JONI CONCERT EXPERIENCES IN VANCOUVER AND ELSEWHERE, AND HEAR ABOUT > OTHER CONCERT AND JONI ENCOUNTERS! CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > DOUG > > http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:11:33 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Brian Wilson on Leno Tues njc Brian Wilson will be the musical guest on Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno Tues. May 22. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:16:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: I'm back!!!! njc hey zoobie doobie doo!!!!!! glad you're back! xo wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Jamie Zubairi Enviado el: Lunes, 21 de Mayo de 2001 06:05 p.m. Para: JMDL Asunto: I'm back!!!! njc hello all I'm back from the depths of wilderness that was homelessness (living on brother's sofa) and being without a telephone I hope all is well and I wish much Joni to all Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com (Doug Carlson) Subject: Re: Idea http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS Received: from mailsorter-1903.public.rogers.webtv.net (209.240.218.63) by storefull-1901.public.rogers.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from front1.chartermi.net (060upc123.chartermi.net [24.213.60.123]) by mailsorter-1903.public.rogers.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f-pe/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id RAA09062 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.213.60.109] (HELO chartermi.net) by front1.chartermi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.3) with ESMTP id 2473783 for dgcarl@interactive.rogers.com; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:31:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3B09B35D.377CA2A0@chartermi.net> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:31:25 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Carlson Subject: Idea References: <4384-3B09AA22-423@storefull-1907.public.rogers:.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What you wrote, Doug, you should post to the whole JMDL. The way Les set this up is if you hit reply, the email goes back only to the person. You have to click on "reply all" or whatever your mail provider calls it to get it to go to everyone. This is a fantstic community. Very diverse group of people who feel a real sense of closeness to each other. I think you will love it here, and be loved in return. Everything you aid below, you should put on the JMDL because it will get some good conversations going! I go back with Joni (as a fan only) to 1969... what a wonderful artist she is! Vince Doug Carlson wrote: > Hi Vince! First of all, keep up the excellent work you have been doing > with the JMDL!!!! > I am so impressed and thrilled to actually read about and interact with > people who have been touched by her! For me, it has been thirty years > since I bought my first Joni album, Blue, and of course one of the main > reasons for purchasing the album is because she is from Saskatoon, she > attended the same high school as I did, and her parents live two doors > down from my Aunt and Uncle on Hanover Avenue!! > > One point that strikes me the most is that Joni seems to be more popular > in the United States, then she is in her own back yard. Actually, that > is a very Canadian trait--Don't give anyone too much credit. Be humble, > and don't be too proud!!! etc. > > It took Saskatoon years to finally even begin to give her any kind of > recognition! Finally, last year she hd her paintings on display at the > Mendel Art Gallery, and there was a lot of media hype surounding the > event. Why didn't they have much of any recognition thirty years > earlier, particlarly when she was having international hit songs and > albums, and putting Saskatoon on the map!!! Even to this day, there is > no street, building, monument, park, or anything named after her, and > that makes me disappointed in city where I was born and raised. By the > way, I am now living in Toronto, where Joni began her singing career in > the coffee houses in Yorkville. > > What are your Joni stories? Favorite albums etc.? I have much more to > tell! > > Look forward to your reply! > > Doug > > http://interactive.rogers.com/dgcarl/DOUGSFAVORITETHINGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:24:21 -0400 From: mags Subject: one more thought on the cartoon coaster njc this might be a little far out, however, that never stopped me before ;) I just pulled out the poster Brian brought for me of the BSN cover and I am wondering.... is that face none other than Vincent Van Gogh??? Sure is food for thought. I couldnt see the second face ...maybe just eyes over in the western provinces? mags - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:50:45 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: I'm back!!!! njc Great to have you back, Jamie! Look forward to reading your contributions once again. They have been missed. Jason. Jamie Zubairi wrote: > > hello all > > I'm back from the depths of wilderness that was homelessness (living on > brother's sofa) and being without a telephone > > I hope all is well and I wish much Joni to all > > Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:56:43 -0400 From: Kay Ashley Subject: Judy's Chelsea - clarification please! Hey David Lahm! I saw a post where you said the set for this weekend are Saturday 3-7 and 7-11 and Sunday 3-7. But I thought that we have the 2 sets on SUNDAY, and the one evening set on Saturday? Please clarify, so I (and all of us) show up at the right time! :-) Kay Ashley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:19:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: May 21st !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > [all ruffled and tapping its foot like julie > andrews in thoroughly modern > millie] > the birthday fairy says: > > vickie's birthday is may 24. It is in fact, but it's celebrated here in Canada on the Monday before. If we did it the Monday after, we might have a long weekend the same time as the Americans and that wouldn't do at all, would it? > > two other b-day people on the 24th: > bob dylan and joni's mother!!!!!! > there! > the BF Happy birthday, Bob and Myrt (soon). Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 - --- Doug Carlson wrote: > HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! > JONI ATTENDED THE > SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN > SASKATOON, > SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN > FROM MY AUNT AND > UNCLE. Welcome to the list, Doug - it sounds like you are going to fit right in! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #227 - --- Doug Carlson wrote: > HI ALL YOU JONI FANS!! I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU! > JONI ATTENDED THE > SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS I DID, ADEN BOWMAN COLLEGIATE IN > SASKATOON, > SASKATCHEWAN, AND HER PARENTS LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN > FROM MY AUNT AND > UNCLE. Welcome to the list, Doug - it sounds like you are going to fit right in! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:49:12 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Judy's Chelsea - clarification please! Kay, I'm sorry for any confusion, but I don't recall ever saying there would be two shifts Sunday. The schedule is Saturday 3-7 & 7-11 Sunday 3-7 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: CHRIS TREACY Subject: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) Greetings,all As another trading season heats up for me after a long break, I received my first package of goodies in the mail over the weekend (actually, 2 packages...yay!!!). I traded a guy in Cali for some things, amongst them A RLJ show he lists as Hamburg '92. However, the quality of this recording tells me it simply cannot be a boot. It's on par with "A Day In The Garden" or maybe a hair better in spots. I immediately thought of the Wiltern theater DVD that I've never seen, but the amazon listing says that is only 13 tracks, whereas this is 20 tracks. Also, on the track listing for that DVD show "Must Be Love" is listed as #3, but on my new CD it's #4. Any ideas about what this thing is? Either way, it's WONDERFUL and a must for any RLJ enthusiasts. Since I don't own a DVD player yet, this will suit me fine even if it's only a copy from that vid. - -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:00:27 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Canadian Holiday today - Victoria Day NJC Who one knows what Victoria Day has beeeeen ab-ou-oa-t, eh? : D Lama Ho ho; I'm so funny. npimh: "I'm So Open", from my autographed copy of the new Cowboy Junkies album: "Open". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:07:56 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Why Bob Dylan? NJC Paul Castle asked for advice on a Dylanesque outfit. How 'bout a necktie and a Panama hat? (I don't mean exclusively, however.) What about a Leopard skin pill box hat? After all, it balances on your head just like a mattress rests on a bottle of wine. I could go on but I won't. Hibbing Bob npimh: As the sun fell down and the moon slipped awaaaaay from black diamond baaaaaaaaaay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:40:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) chris, this is probably one the concerts you can download at 75 cents per song at rickie's official site. the money goes directly to rickie. http://www.rickieleejones.com/musicstore.htm long live rickie lee jones!!!!!!!! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de CHRIS TREACY Enviado el: Martes, 22 de Mayo de 2001 12:59 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) Greetings,all As another trading season heats up for me after a long break, I received my first package of goodies in the mail over the weekend (actually, 2 packages...yay!!!). I traded a guy in Cali for some things, amongst them A RLJ show he lists as Hamburg '92. However, the quality of this recording tells me it simply cannot be a boot. It's on par with "A Day In The Garden" or maybe a hair better in spots. I immediately thought of the Wiltern theater DVD that I've never seen, but the amazon listing says that is only 13 tracks, whereas this is 20 tracks. Also, on the track listing for that DVD show "Must Be Love" is listed as #3, but on my new CD it's #4. Any ideas about what this thing is? Either way, it's WONDERFUL and a must for any RLJ enthusiasts. Since I don't own a DVD player yet, this will suit me fine even if it's only a copy from that vid. - -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:51:03 +0000 From: Catherine Udall Turley Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) Hi Chris-- I wonder if the disc you just got wasn't originally purchased from her website? Don't know if you 've been there, but she's made lots of live stuff (entire albums worth) available for purchase as MP3 downloads. Plus you can get the original "Ghostyhead" album from her site as downloads. I snagged a copy a couple of years ago after it was out of print but could still be had in a few stores. And you can get the Ghostyhead Sessions at West 54th performance as MP3s. Not everyone is crazy about that album, but I think it is utterly brilliant. Also got her live in Portland CD and Chain Austin Live discs. Those you can buy as discs or as downloads. You can get individual songs or entire concerts-- just 75 cents an MP3, all the $$ goes to Rickie Lee, and the quality is tremendous. And you can listen to every song available in its entirety in streaming audio before you buy so you know exactly what you're getting. Here are a couple of links that will get you there: http://www.rickieleejones.com/musicstore.htm https://www1.securedweb.net/greatbigisland/www/greatbigisland92-33/mck-cgi/mp3list.cgi?search=rickie&coname=Rickie%20Lee%20Jones&pagename=1 Happy listening, Catherine T. in Seattle CHRIS TREACY wrote: > I traded a guy in Cali for some things, amongst them A > RLJ show he lists as Hamburg '92. However, the quality > of this recording tells me it simply cannot be a boot. > It's on par with "A Day In The Garden" or maybe a hair > better in spots. I immediately thought of the Wiltern > theater DVD that I've never seen, but the amazon > listing says that is only 13 tracks, whereas this is > 20 tracks. Also, on the track listing for that DVD > show "Must Be Love" is listed as #3, but on my new CD > it's #4. Any ideas about what this thing is? Either > way, it's WONDERFUL and a must for any RLJ > enthusiasts. Since I don't own a DVD player yet, this > will suit me fine even if it's only a copy from that > vid. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:59:47 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? I agree wholeheardetly with the below list recommended by Mike. Beyond the Missouri Sky brings tears to my eyes- it is soooooo beautiful. Right up there with New Chataugua- I think, his first solo release. More recently is a duet album w/the jazz guitarist legend Jim Hall. Stephen in Vancouver NP: Joni 2nd Fret "Mike Pritchard" on 05/19/2001 08:14:07 AM Please respond to "Mike Pritchard" To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? depends which Pat Metheny you want to hear. I recommend the following... 'Beyond the Missouri Sky' (with Charlie Haden) bass and guitar duo - on Verve Records 1997. 'Secret Stories' (with various) Geffen 1992 (probably the best place to get an idea of his range) 'I can see your house from here' (with Jon Scofield) 2 guitars plus rhythm section. Blue Note 1996 'question and answer' (with Dave Holland and Roy Haynes) Guitar Jazz trio. Geffen, 1989. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 03:16:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) i've just checked and yes, catherine, it is on her site. again the url is: http://www.rickieleejones.com/musicstore.htm if you have to pay someone, better pay rickie herself. wallyK, np: RLJ ''away from the sky''. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Catherine Udall Turley Enviado el: Lunes, 21 de Mayo de 2001 07:51 p.m. Para: CHRIS TREACY CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Rickie Lee Boot question (NJC) Hi Chris-- I wonder if the disc you just got wasn't originally purchased from her website? Don't know if you 've been there, but she's made lots of live stuff (entire albums worth) available for purchase as MP3 downloads. Plus you can get the original "Ghostyhead" album from her site as downloads. I snagged a copy a couple of years ago after it was out of print but could still be had in a few stores. And you can get the Ghostyhead Sessions at West 54th performance as MP3s. Not everyone is crazy about that album, but I think it is utterly brilliant. Also got her live in Portland CD and Chain Austin Live discs. Those you can buy as discs or as downloads. You can get individual songs or entire concerts-- just 75 cents an MP3, all the $$ goes to Rickie Lee, and the quality is tremendous. And you can listen to every song available in its entirety in streaming audio before you buy so you know exactly what you're getting. Here are a couple of links that will get you there: http://www.rickieleejones.com/musicstore.htm https://www1.securedweb.net/greatbigisland/www/greatbigisland92-33/mck-cgi/m p3list.cgi?search=rickie&coname=Rickie%20Lee%20Jones&pagename=1 Happy listening, Catherine T. in Seattle CHRIS TREACY wrote: > I traded a guy in Cali for some things, amongst them A > RLJ show he lists as Hamburg '92. However, the quality > of this recording tells me it simply cannot be a boot. > It's on par with "A Day In The Garden" or maybe a hair > better in spots. I immediately thought of the Wiltern > theater DVD that I've never seen, but the amazon > listing says that is only 13 tracks, whereas this is > 20 tracks. Also, on the track listing for that DVD > show "Must Be Love" is listed as #3, but on my new CD > it's #4. Any ideas about what this thing is? Either > way, it's WONDERFUL and a must for any RLJ > enthusiasts. Since I don't own a DVD player yet, this > will suit me fine even if it's only a copy from that > vid. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:33:53 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fw: The Map and The Face > > Boy Kakki, you either have good eyes or a great >imagination. I'll blow it up and re-post to >JoniMitchellFans but it may lose more clarity than it > gains. Rick, Thanks for blowing it up. Unfortunately, it did lose some clarity and the angel is smudged out. I wish there was a way we could have an interactive pointer to show where the images are. If I get some time in the next few days, I will sketch the coaster, scan it and put it on Catgirl's list (or send to those not on that list) with the newly discovered features marked and circled ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #228 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?