From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #216 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, May 13 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 216 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: John Hartford NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: The top 10 Joni songs... and TTT (long) [Kobus Louwrens ] Re: A New JMDLer is Born!! (NJC) [catman ] Re: Chiming in again [Kobus Louwrens ] [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc [evian ] RE: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: John Hartford NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] California NJC ["kerry" ] Shameless begging for an Elm Street ["kerry" ] Re: California NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Best 2 made-up CD's - JONI GOLD [Rusty10113@aol.com] Re: Chiming in again [Don Rowe ] Re: Hissed Off (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: John Hartford NJC [MDESTE1@aol.com] R.E.M.njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #148 [Kate ] Wisconsin Death trip (very NJC) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Hissed Off [Merk54@aol.com] joni at newport? [mags ] Re: Hissed Off [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc [mags ] Re: A New JMDLer is Born!! (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Hissed Off [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #215 -- First Synth Song [BRYAN8847@aol.com] California ["Kate Bennett" ] HPBD NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Wisconsin Death trip (very NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Chiming in again ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc [Catherine McKay ] picky,picky,picky -sjc [Randy Remote ] Re: ahem, she's here] njc ["Kakki" ] Re: sophomore jive (or piss poor humor ?) [Bobsart48@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 04:07:16 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: John Hartford NJC les dearest, how sad and how poignant your message was... much love, wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:19:07 +0200 From: Kobus Louwrens Subject: Re: The top 10 Joni songs... and TTT (long) jan Lumbold wrote: ><< On the subject of which period of Joni's career is the best, I would say >she > has different age groups of fans getting into different phases of her > career, all of them equally important. >> .... and I jump to the defence of TTT, which took ages to grow on me, but is quickly becoming a favourite. aside: Hejira is my nr. 1 favourite as well: neither the songwriting or the satisfying coherence as an album can be beat. (My definition of a good album is one that flows like a collection of poems: not necessarily all on the same theme or subject, but coherent enough to make statement (or create a feeling/impression) that is larger than the sum of the parts. Those kinds of albums that you don't feel tempted to hit the CD player's random button because it flows so beautifully are becoming scarcer and scarcer as the CD format is increasingly turn 'albums' into collections of individual songs. Most new CD's these days seem to me lik compilations of new songs these days instead of like coherent works of art: anyway---- back to TTT: I listened to it the other day on a sunny autumn morning (the season down here in South Africa) with golden trees outside the window... and it just struck me how perfectly it holds together as a 'middle-aged' album. The music, the cover paintings: those greens and golden browns and yellows. and the music so amazingly subtle: it seems the emotional range is much narrower than on most other albums, but there are so many emotional colours inside that narrow band much like Hejira, actually (I managed to tune out the lyrics to Lead Balloon and No Apologies - major stumbling blocks to my enjoyment of this album - and the textures on those songs got me too.) I wonder how it will sound when I'm pushing 60? (I'm 30 now) It is not a perfect album like Hejira, but I think it is up there with her best. Kobus Louwrens ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:43:47 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Chiming in again Okay. So what did she us on Shadows and Light? Sound slike a synth to me. Can't be bothered ghoing to find the cover! Don Rowe wrote: > --- catman wrote: > > The Jundle Line? > > Yep! Album liner notes credit Joni on "Moog", one of > the at the time "newest" and certainly "truly" > synthesizers. Probably responsible for that > Da-Yoo-EEE-Yoop sound in back of the Burundi drummers. > > Don Rowe > > ===== > Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - -- bw colin BRO GC, 950i 940,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:45:28 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: A New JMDLer is Born!! (NJC) Congratulations. A new life. Wonderful. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:50:40 +0200 From: Kobus Louwrens Subject: Re: Chiming in again Don Rowe wrote: >No offense, but instead of saying "are all 85% awful", >I at least, think you should say what you really mean: >"Use synthesizers." I find it really hard to get into the eighties albums and I like electronic music a lot (I shouldn't say this too loudly here, but Bjork is a favourite of mine.) Even 80's synthesizers. I just don't think Joni, Dolby et al used them very effectively or tastefully on her albums. They sound clunky and corny and add an incongruous layer to the music that is just distracting, I think. If joni ever got as comfortable around the synths as Kate Bush did the results could have been amazing. Kobus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:58:22 -0600 From: evian Subject: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3AFCECFB.B5E5991F@sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:57:48 -0600 From: evian Reply-To: evian@sk.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-SYMPA (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lorie.smith@home.com, ak@escape.ca, Kathy McNinch , Kevex Javex , Snownuts Subject: ahem, she's here Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, Ok, the news you have all been waiting for: Tonight at 7:20 pm or thereabouts, our beautiful daughter Kelly Dyan Tolley-Procyk was born, weighing 8 lbs, 4 oz! After being told by everyone at the hospital that she would be born before noon, she decided to stay inside until the doc and the nurses dragged her kicking and screaming into the world. So far, we can't tell who she looks like, but she's got her father's appetite by the looks of it! Tracy did great. We went in at 7 this morning just to confirm if she was indeed in labor, and much to the surprise of everyone, she was already 4 cm dilated and the head was down. She was fully dilated by noon, but Kelly basically sat there until 7, after even numerous attempts to get her out with this freaky looking vacuum thingy, but the threat of forceps seems to have made her change her mind and come on out. She then commenced eating for a good hour, after screaming bloody murder. Tracy is doing good. She has a billion stitches and is horribly swollen, but is sleeping like a baby right now, which is what I should be doing, but instead I am being ridiculously hokey and listening to Elton's "Your Song" over and over and getting all weepy. However, I should really get some sleep since I just got home and want to be there first thing in the morning. I'll write y'all later. Just thought I would fill you all in since I have no idea when I'll have time to email or call this weekend. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 05:17:17 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc rob!!!!!!!!! a million blessings to you, tracy and kelly. may kelly find as much happiness in this life as she has brought to you and your family. love, wallyK Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:47:40 -0000 From: "Clive Brothers" Subject: Best 2 made-up CD's - JONI GOLD I can't stand being silent any longer.I need to put the other point of view:I far prefer Joni when she's not trying to sing jazz or a jazz-related genre.I love folk/pop/rock and regret that she has totally abandoned this style of singing and playing.It doesn't surprise me at all that her most successful commercial period in the early 70's dried up with the issue of Hejira.HOSL is an outstanding album,but I agree with many other JMDLers that it takes a while to get into a lot of the tracks.Joni made it hard for her original fan base to follow her and by abandoning melody on HEJIRA she switched off millions I'm sure. I am saddened by the very low ranking given to Chelsea Morning on the poll vote.It's such a beautiful,cheerful,simple song with so much hope for the future.Hilary Clinton may have dreadful taste in men,but her musical taste is spot on. So for anyone else who likes great melody as well as incomparable lyrics, for those who like me live ,die and breathe Joni Mitchell and bore all friends and family rigid with my obsession ......yes,it is possible to be like that and still proclaim a dislike of most jazz and still love Joni.Sorry if that upsets most people on the list,but I feel it's important to put the other point of view from time to time. Here are my homemade CD's which I have given to many non-Joni music lovers and many have been amazed by by the depth and richness of her music: CD1 Chelsea Morning BYT Carey California Woman of Heart and Mind River For Free Circle Game(live) Rainy Night House The Last Time I Saw Richard All I Want A Case Of You Morning Morningtown In France They Kiss on Main Street Edith and the Kingpin Court and Spark Free Man in Paris Car on a Hill Woodstock(live) CD2 Harry's House Impossible Dreamer Sex Kills The Reoccurring Dream BSN Shadows and Light Lakota Little Green The Arrangement Woodstock - Matthews Southern Comfort Wild Things Fast Underneath the Streetlight Love Help Me Chinese Cafe BSN - Judy Collins Urge For Going If Joni were willing to play some of these songs on guitar/piano unplugged it would show her true brilliance to a much wider audience.What a shame it can never happen now that her voice has changed so much. CBros NPCorrs-Talk on Corners _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 07:22:59 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc evian wrote: > Ok, Ok, the news you have all been waiting for: Tonight at 7:20 pm or > thereabouts, our beautiful daughter Kelly Dyan Tolley-Procyk was born, > weighing 8 lbs, 4 oz! > Tracy is ... sleeping like a baby > right now, which is what I should be doing, but instead I am being > ridiculously hokey and listening to Elton's "Your Song" over and over > and getting all weepy. However, I should really get some sleep.... This is wonderful news! Congratulations to you and Tracy! And a big welcome to Kelly Dyan! Thanks for letting us know and, yes, resting up every chance you get is an excellent idea (the music and weepiness is understandable though and very touching to read about). Best wishes to you all, Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:39:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: John Hartford NJC I remember John & Mason Williams from the Smothers Brothers show...I always enjoyed him, especially when he'd play the fiddle and clog simultaneously with his derby hat, almost like a real-life Mr. Bojangles. He always looked so happy doing what he was doing! A great talent indeed...see you further on up the road, John! Bob NP: Donald Fagen, "The Goodbye Look" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:09:45 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: California NJC Yet another song: James Taylor - "Honey Don't Leave L.A." This is a cool idea. I think I'll collect all the songs I can find about Wisconsin. Er.....ummmmmm....maybe not. Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:15:52 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Shameless begging for an Elm Street Hi all, I wrote to the Elm Street magazine people and they've run out of Joni back issues! I would reeeaaaaalllllllyyyyy like one since I'm supposedly IN one of the pictures. If anyone has an extra copy lying around, I would reeeaaalllyyyy appreciate if you could possibly, maybe, hopefully send it to me. I'll pay you for it!!!! Thanks, you wonderful people, (Is the guilt working yet?) Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:36:48 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: California NJC In a message dated 5/12/01 9:13:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, myrtlmoo@ticon.net writes: > This is a cool idea. I think I'll collect all the songs I can find about > Wisconsin. > Kerry, there's always the heavy metal song by Static-X "Wisconsin Death Trip" but maybe you don't want to collect that :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:38:23 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Best 2 made-up CD's - JONI GOLD Hmmmm.... what can I say, i agree totally, and this 2 CD set selection is almost perfect, because I've made tapes of Joni "mellow" and "upbeat" and the endless stream of great songs amazes me, but alas, much of it is from her 70s period, with the exception of Two Grey Rooms (the best, in my opinion), a maybe a few cuts from TI. As much as I've grown to love Heijera, it's not melodic, and could have turned off a large portion of those who loved Court & Spark... Amelia is just brilliant, and we all know that the more you listen, the more every Joni song grows and makes sense...perhaps only those of us who stay open minded and stick around ultimately reap the benefits of Joni's artistry, and the rest simply missed out on all the fun.. My two cents in terms of a perfect Joni "mellow" CD Urge for Going Two Grey Rooms Little Green WOman of Heart and Mind River People's Parties Down to You Amelia For Free Marcie Turbulent Indigo Ladies of The Canyon I could go on, but, in short, this is heaven! M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 06:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Chiming in again - --- catman wrote: > Okay. So what did she us on Shadows and Light? Sound > slike a synth to > me. Can't be bothered ghoing to find the cover! You're right. It's an Arp (probably Odesssey) with Farfeza organ. TJL uses a Moog earlier on though ... making it the first 'official' synth credit that I can find. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:23:59 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissed Off (md) I seem to recall there were more songs done off The Hissing album than any other at the Pazfest in New Orleans. The songs seemed to work especially well for Jazz interpretation. md ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:27:29 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: John Hartford NJC If Im not mistaken John Hartford was the guy who replaced the fabulous Dave Guard one of the original founding members of the Kingston Trio when DG left the group. In that I was a huge Kingston Trio fan my pavlovian response was to think John H. was not up to Guards standards but eventually he won me over big. I loved Johns stuff. Sad to hear of his passing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:17:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: R.E.M.njc If anyone likes R.E.M. and would like to hear their new album "Reveal", you can hear it in it's entirety at spinner.com http://www.spinner.com/prplayer/prplayer.jhtml?cmd1=dummy& version=2.0.0.spinlite.0&_requestid=1893447 - -Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 09:43:03 -0500 From: Kate Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #148 onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 12 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 148 > > The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be > found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, > a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. > > The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains > interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. > > Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: > http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm > > The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > First entry ["Laurent Olszer" ] > RE: First entry ["Wally Kairuz" ] > Going to California [Jodcrazee@aol.com] > All hail to Yael!! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > TTT ["J.David Sapp" ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #212 -- LK influence [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > Re: First entry [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > Re: Confessions and Joni's Best Albums [Don Rowe ] > re: Border Crossings article/LK influence ["c Karma" ] > California ["William Waddell" ] > Chiming in again [farneddy@mindspring.com] ____Frederick: > I am very sorry if this offends, but what the hell happened to Joni in the 80's? WTRF, DED and CMIARS are all 85% awful. I do think it's a matter of taste. A simple case of "do I sing along when I listen to this, or don't I?" For me, if I am singing along without even thinking about it, I am won over. I don't understand people's dislike of WTRF, for instance -- it's so singable! -- unless people just don't like jazz or something. Or -- once again, it all comes down to personal taste. There are songs I love on DED and on CMIARS, too - -- songs that touch me where my singing starts, what can I say? Some songs bore the shit out of me -- Paprika Plains, for instance, just gets on my nerves for the most part -- but maybe that's because I'm a person who likes singable songs, not because the song itself is lacking in whatever it takes to be a good song -- For although the words to Joni's songs often articulate my own sensibilities better than I can articulate them myself -- she is the Anais Nin of song -- I am a person who usually hears melody and harmony before actual words. Luckily Joni's lyrics are easy to hear and they are so perfectly blended with her arrangement (of everything!) that her songs hit right in the heart but they don't skip on past the head either. SShe is incredible, I say, incredible! And how can she not know it? Of course she knows it, and she isn't falsely modest. I suggest that if it were a man saying some of the things about his own work that Joni says about hers, no one would even blink and the word 'arrogant' would not even come up. Thank God for us that Joni has a good strong sense of self and the guts to put that out there in her music. Kate of the North w > > > > > ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:27:40 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Wisconsin Death trip (very NJC) 'Wisconsin Death Trip' by Michael Lesy is a great book and I have it, got it back in 73 when it first came out. I learned more from that book about America and life than I did in any other published work, but the song and the group are unknown to me. Fill me in? (the Rev) Vince FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/12/01 9:13:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > myrtlmoo@ticon.net writes: > > > This is a cool idea. I think I'll collect all the songs I can find about > > Wisconsin. > > > > Kerry, there's always the heavy metal song by Static-X "Wisconsin Death > Trip" but maybe you don't want to collect that :~) > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:39:25 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissed Off Cindy, All I can tell you about my reaction to HOSL is that I, too, once felt exactly the same way. When I first started listening to HOSL, The Jungle Line was the only song I could relate to. I went years letting this album gather dust in my collection - and that has never happened with a Joni album, before or since (well maybe WTRF). I just couldn't get into it. Then I got a new room mate who happened to be a huge Joni fan (how's that for room mate heaven), but guess what his favorite Joni album was - HOSL. Everytime he put it on I would groan. "With so many great Joni albums, why must you play that one?" I would ask. And he would just smile a devilish grin, and turn the volume up. Then one day while he was playing it, I caught myself signing along - "Sometimes Chickie had the car, or Ron had the car, or Lead Foot Melvin, with his hot-wire head", and instead of complaining about his choice, I turned up the volume. Song after song poured out of the stereo, and it was like I hearing them for the first time. It was like the clouds parted, and the light shone through. I can't really explain it. So Cindy, my recommendation would be to keep playing it. Hopefully, one day the clouds will part for you as well, and you'll be able to share in the joy of one of Joni's more mysterious masterpieces. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:08:00 -0500 From: mags Subject: joni at newport? Brian is sitting here reading a book we just acquired ... Singing Lessons by Judy Collins...and in it (loosely quoting from the book here) she talks about how she convinced the board of the Newport Festival to have an afternoon concert that turned out to be historic - Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, Janis Ian, David Blue, Mike Settle, Tom Paxton, Eric Andersen, all together on the stage at Newport. our question to the list is: are there any recordings out there of this? Does anyone even know about this concert? from the dates mentioned, the assumption is that it is circa 1966.... any information would be greatly appreciated & yea, we'd like to get our hands on a recording if it is available. thanks! Mags and Bri np: Ducky Kisses - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:07:52 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissed Off In a message dated 5/12/01 12:47:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Merk54@aol.com writes: > All I can tell you about my reaction to HOSL is that I, too, once felt > exactly the same way. When I first started listening to HOSL, The Jungle > Line was the only song I could relate to. I went years letting this album > When I first listened to HOSL life found me going through a divorce and having a small baby girl to raise. I moved back home with my folks. They had a built in swimming pool in the backyard. The houses Joni depicts on the album cover remind me of that old neighborhood. I could definitely feel the imagery Joni painted. I use to drift asleep floating on a raft with yes the lawn sprinklers going in the neighbors back yard. Rose in NJ NP: Night Ride Home rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:11:56 -0500 From: mags Subject: Re: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc Dear Rob and Tracy, What wonderful news to wake up to on this rainy spring morning!!!! We are sooo happy for you! Between the two of us, we have three beautiful daughters and we are here to tell you that your Mommy and Daddy hearts will burst with joy on a daily, and sometimes hourly basis. And we love the name you chose....Kelly Dyan....beautiful. lots of love and hugs and gushing with happiness right along with you!!! Brian and Mags np: crazy cries of love ;).... oooo and the stereo's not even turned on :P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:10:34 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: A New JMDLer is Born!! (NJC) CONGRATULATIONS ROB & TRACY!!! Mark in Seattle > I just "knew" it would be tonight! I went to bed really early tonight because > I've not had any sleep for the past 2 nights. I just got off the phone with > Rob (Evian) and after deperately trying to nudge me out of deep slumber, he > told me that Kelly was born about an hour ago. She was 8 lbs, 4 oz, and > that's all I know for now. More to come later, hopefully from the new daddy > himself. CONGRATS Rob and Tracy!!! > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:21:15 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissed Off In a message dated 5/12/01 1:16:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RoseMJoy@aol.com writes: > The houses Joni depicts on the > Oh I forgot to mention, the house on the right on the album cover. That's my house! Weird, eh? My bedroom window is the on the left. Happy childhood memories :~) well, mostly. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:15:41 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #215 -- First Synth Song (to Don Rowe's question) The first song to use a synth arrangement was: The Jungle Line. Right? Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:10:40 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: California Didn't Kate Wolf write a song called California? ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:10:35 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: HPBD NJC Happy Birthday Mr. Northern Hospitality, Stephen E! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 15:26:53 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Wisconsin Death trip (very NJC) In a message dated 5/12/01 12:52:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, revrvl@chartermi.net writes: << Wisconsin Death Trip' by Michael Lesy is a great book and I have it, got it back in 73 when it first came out. I learned more from that book about America and life than I did in any other published work, but the song and the group are unknown to me. Fill me in? (the Rev) Vince >> I'm glad the book was good, cause the band and song are awful IMO. My friend's son was playing it the other day, and the music is industrial hell rock. I don't think you'll be playing Static -X for your congregation :~) Jimmy np: Janet Jackson & Carly Simon "Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You) " ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 15:32:13 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Chiming in again Okay, I'm gonna guess instead of compulsively pour over liner notes! I'll go with "The Jungle Line", although it might seem too late. If I remember correctly, this track employed ("employed! took as slave labor!") a Moog synthesizer, which is arguably the first artistically used synth. Track 2 of side one of The Hissing Of Summer Lawns, as I remember my 70s history...... :P Don asked, > Am I the only one who knows which was the > first Joni song to employ a "true" synth > in the arrangement? Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: [Fwd: ahem, she's here] njc - --- evian wrote: > > Ok, Ok, the news you have all been waiting for: > Tonight at 7:20 pm or > thereabouts, our beautiful daughter Kelly Dyan > Tolley-Procyk was born, > weighing 8 lbs, 4 oz! Congratulations, Rob, and best wishes to Tracy and the lovely young Kelly. > I am being > ridiculously hokey and listening to Elton's "Your > Song" over and over > and getting all weepy. This is just the beginning, my friend - you have now entered the world of parenthood, which means you'll be a sentimental fool for a loooonnnnng time! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:59:38 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: picky,picky,picky -sjc Don Rowe wrote: > Yep! Album liner notes credit Joni on "Moog", one of > the at the time "newest" and certainly "truly" > synthesizers. Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > If I remember > correctly, this track employed ("employed! took as slave labor!") a Moog > synthesizer, which is arguably the first artistically used synth. The Moog was hardly new in '75 when Hissing came out. Among it's first uses in pop music was 6 years before on "Abbey Road" ("Maxell's Silver Hammer", "Here Comes The Sun"). Walter Carlos' "Switched on Bach" was wildly successful a year or two before that. The Moody Blues, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc. had been using them for quite some time. "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Close to the Edge" were released in '73. MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > If Im not mistaken John Hartford was the guy who replaced the fabulous Dave > Guard one of the original founding members of the Kingston Trio You are referring, I think, to John Stewart. Too bad about John Hartford, a fine and original songwriter. Rusty10113@aol.com wrote: > As much as I've grown to love Heijera, it's not melodic, and could have > Clive Brothers wrote: > .Joni made it hard for her > original fan base to follow her and by abandoning melody on HEJIRA she > switched off millions I'm sure. > Blue Motel Room is not melodic? Black Crow is not melodic? Song For Sharon and Strange Boy are not melodic? Hejira? Refuge? Someone get my smelling salts..... Kate Bennett wrote: > Didn't Kate Wolf write a song called California? "Red Tailed Hawk", with the tag line "In the golden rollin' hills of California" is a hauntingly beautiful song, and probably Kate's best known track. It was written by George Schroder. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:17:49 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: ahem, she's here] njc Awwww! I'm so happy for you and Tracy, Rob - we can wait to see the first pics of Kelly. Love to you all, Kakki > Ok, Ok, the news you have all been waiting for: Tonight at 7:20 pm or > thereabouts, our beautiful daughter Kelly Dyan Tolley-Procyk was born, > weighing 8 lbs, 4 oz! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 01:13:26 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: sophomore jive (or piss poor humor ?) ON Fri, 11 May 2001 10:39:37 +0100 "Laurent Olszer" wrote Subject: First entry PS: In France they do shave their armpits. However, In France they Piss on Main Street, I see it everyday. and wallyK replied ''in france they piss on main street watersports, mamma not cheap display!'' Now I remember - a famous line, from a famous song, from a famous album ("Pissing on Summer Lawns") - Help Me !........I know I'm in trouble again - ;-) But wasn't there a French word in that line - ah yes '"jeux nautiques, mama". Laurent - my daughter Leah is in Paris studying for the semester. I hope she does bring back any bad habits. Come to think of it, Joni visited Paris, and look what she wrote about later in "Talk to Me". Now I am starting to worry. ;-) From one newcomer to another - (hope we don't get dunked for this). Bob S ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #216 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?