From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #180 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 17 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 180 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Film news (SJC) [Gertus@aol.com] Re: Request [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Fwd: Re: Original Artwork by Joni Mitchell on Ebay [Ian Cropton ] Re: Film news (SJC) [Gertus@aol.com] Math by Chocolate (NJC) [SMEBD@aol.com] NJC Peggy Chew [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Real Good For Free (NJC) [slarty ] Re: Request [Randy Remote ] Ballad of the Rude Canadian ["P. Henry Boland" ] Shawn Colvin NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Request ["Wally Kairuz" ] Martinis (NJC) ["Nikki Johnson" ] RE: Jonatha Brooke's "Linger" (NJC) ["Nikki Johnson" ] Re: Ballad of the Rude Canadian [catman ] JoniFest 2000- New England on CD ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Airto and Guerin in L.A. this week ["Kakki" ] Re: JoniFest 2000- New England on CD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Leonard Cohen sort of NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Bob Dylan and that crazy film [BachelorNumero2@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:45:18 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Film news (SJC) In a message dated 15/04/01 23:47:36 GMT Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy writes: > > Well, Jacky, 2001 isn't THAT long a wait...I know there's a bit of a time > difference across the pond, but it *IS* 2001 over there too, innit? ;~) Nah! Over here we are still in the 20th century which is when the book was set, after all. Americans always have to be that one step ahead don't they? At least we are getting Capt Corelli before you though. Ok. Maybe I did mean 2002. Thanks for the CD, btw. Excellent esp the last track. Cheers Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:47:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Request <> Hello, Alessandra! (What a pretty name...) and welcome to the official forum for discussion of the life, times & art of Joni Mitchell. And hooray for your friend, that's a good friend indeed! :~) I have all the Tape Tree stuff and have converted it to CD if you prefer it on disc. Let me know if you're interested and we'll get you hooked up! Bob NP (Now Playing) Warren Zevon, "Fistful of Rain" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Cropton Subject: Fwd: Re: Original Artwork by Joni Mitchell on Ebay Oops. Havent got used to replying back to the list yet :-) - --- Ian Cropton wrote: > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:00:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ian Cropton > Subject: Re: Original Artwork by Joni Mitchell on > Ebay > To: RoseMJoy@aol.com > > Well if the reserve is 6-figures, I think we'll need > a > few more menbers of the list to chip in. Say 52 > shares > at 5,000 USD a share and you get to time-share a > Joni > painting for one week every year :-) > > Cheers, Ian > > --- RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/15/01 10:22:45 AM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > eeyorn@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > Only one bid > > > so far for 1,000 USD. The reserve hasn't been > met > > yet. > > > > > > > > > > No one has bid on it thus far Ian. That was the > > opening bid. What do you > > think the reserve is on it? I figure it has to be > 6 > > digits at least. Now if I > > were a rich woman ;~) > > I find it strange that it's being auctioned in > this > > type of forum, don't you? > > I've seen this painting before, just can't recall > > where. > > Hey what you say we pool our money? LOL We could > do > > a time sharing thing. > > > > -Rose in NJ > > > > rosemjoy@aol.com > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:55:37 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Film news (SJC) <> Don't know who Capt. Corelli is, but I know Capt. Crunch...does THAT count? ;~) Also, debuting tonight on US TV is this heavily-hyped "Weakest Link" show that's a british import as well... <> My pleasure Jacky, thanks for your contribution to the project! And if you dig that Peggy Chew, there's more of her to "Chew" on with Volume 17...she does "Dry Cleaner" & a nice "Chelsea Morning" as well! Bob NP: Crosby/Nash, "Deja Vu" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:23:44 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Hi (NJC) I've have only this last hour managed to get my computer running after a horrid incident with a most annoying KAK virus, at least that's what i think it was called. so i'm about eight billion digests behind!! i know that i owe e-mail to loads of you guys now, sorry, i wasnt being rude. hopefully i'll be on top of that soon. the virus was a big circular thing on the screen that blocked everything and it had a most hypnotic balck and white spiralling (sp?) pattern going on. not being on the computer for the last ten days or so helped me realise that i should probably spend less time on it until after the exams, so i will probably unsubscribe from the list for a while today or tomorrow. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:40:59 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Film news (SJC) In a message dated 16/04/2001 13:55:41 GMT Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy writes: << Also, debuting tonight on US TV is this heavily-hyped "Weakest Link" show that's a british import as well... Wow, well watch out because Ann Robinson takes no prisoners! It's a huge program here and "You are the weakest link" a popular catch phrase. <> My pleasure Jacky, thanks for your contribution to the project! And if you dig that Peggy Chew, there's more of her to "Chew" on with Volume 17...she does "Dry Cleaner" & a nice "Chelsea Morning" as well! >> I must hear it! Who is Peggy Chew anyway? Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:47:08 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Math by Chocolate (NJC) For a moment of fun try this calculation (better than doing your Taxes) Stephen > > MATHEMATICS > > > > This is pretty neat how it works out. > > This is cool chocolate math!!!!!!! > > DON'T CHEAT BY SCROLLING DOWN FIRST! > > > It only takes about a minute....... > > Work this out as you read. > > Be sure you don't read the bottom until you've > > worked it > > out! > > This is not one of those waste of time things, it's > > fun.. > > > > 1. First of all, pick the number of times a week > > that you > > would > > like to > > have chocolate. (try for more than once but less > > than 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Multiply this number by 2 (Just to be bold) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Add 5. (for Sunday) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Multiply it by 50 (being a bit stupid) > > > > I'll wait while you get the > > calculator................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. If you have already had your birthday this year > > add > > 1751.... > > > > > > If you haven't, add 1750 ........... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Now subtract the four digit year that you were > > born. > > (if > > you > > remember) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should have a three digit number ...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first digit of this was your original number > > (i.e., > > how > > many > > times you > > want to have chocolate each week). > > > > > > The next two numbers are your age. > > > > > > THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR (2001) IT WILL EVER WORK, SO > > SPREAD > > IT > > AROUND WHILE IT LASTS. IMPRESSIVE ISN'T IT? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:53:33 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Peggy Chew <> Here's where you can find out all about her - (I hope it's not 'the weakest link';~D) http://www.altrisuoni.com/site/artisti/peggy.htm Bob NPIMH: "If you knew...Peggy Chew...than you'd know why I feel blue about Peggy...Mah Peggy Chew-hoo-hoo..." LOL! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:40:19 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Real Good For Free (NJC) There is a site that has tv ads from around the world. Some are extremely entertaining. If you would like a good laugh go to http://www.adcritic.com Go down the list on the left hand side until you see Top 10 Commercials. The first one is called John West-Bear Fight. Click on that one. Another very good one - go to the search engine type in "cats". From the list it gives you choose "Cat Herders". Have fun. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:17:20 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Request Hi Alessandra- You may be our first Brazilian on jmdl- Is Joni very well known there? How did you discover her? I know Joni has recorded with Airto on the "Don Juan's..." album. Welcome to the list, Randy (who loves Brazilian music esp. bossa nova) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:57:31 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: Ballad of the Rude Canadian I really enjoyed this one and think everyone ought to read it. I found it to be particularly telling of Joni as I knew her. "Ballad of the Rude Canadian written by: Robinson, Spider originally published by: Toronto Globe and Mail publication date: February 21, 2001 Jean Chritien's recent travels may have confirmed Canada's genteel stereotype, but the first Canuck I ever met was a holy terror I've been waiting more than 30 years for an excuse to tell this story in print. But perhaps I'd better just get it told, because who knows whether I, or its protagonist, will wake up tomorrow? Our Prime Minister's recent visits to China and the White House were marked, by all accounts, by excessive politeness. Members of his Team Canada party even applauded when Chinese officials carted off some Canadian students who used the occasion of the visit to protest against conditions in Tibet. "That's not the Canadian way," the visitors explained. For the zillionth time, we were reminded that most of the world knows Canada only as The Place Where They're All Polite. And this reminded me, as it always does, of the first Canadian I ever met, telling a crowd of admirers they were lower than weasel smegma. I'm guessing it was 1968. In those days, there briefly existed on this planet a phenomenon I despair of explaining to the modern consumer, called "folk music." Before it all blew over, it offered sporadic employment to people such as Tom Rush, Tim Buckley, Phil Ochs, Fred Neil, Judy Collins, John Koerner, James Taylor and Bob Dylan, some of whom went on to become legitimate musicians. One of the best songwriters in folk was Tim Hardin. He's not the above-mentioned first Canadian I ever met; he was American. His biggest commercial success was a song called If I Were a Carpenter,a hit for Bobby Darin. He wrote the folk classic Reason to Believe,and a haunting jazz ballad called Misty Roses. He was one of the best performers of his songs, with a smoky, fragile voice and guitar playing as crisp as breadsticks. He seemed poised to become one of those rare folksingers to earn a living. Then someone gave him some heroin. By the time of which I speak, Mr. Hardin had already flamed out at least once -- he'd actually fallen asleep onstage at the Royal Albert Hall. Now, chastened and fresh out of rehab, he was ready to try a career-reviving comeback. A tour was booked that brought him to my large state university. A humble, low-key folkie tour: just Mr. Hardin, and an unknown solo singer for a warmup act. I may as well confess this like a man: I was a folksinger myself, in those days. I've been completely rehabilitated through a 12-step program -- swear to God -- but back then, I was one of the first on line for Tim Hardin tickets. Then, before the concert actually happened, everything changed. Not for Mr. Hardin, but for his warmup act. Lightning struck, and set her ablaze. A shy folkie with the obligatory long blond hair, hailing from some place so nowhere it wasn't even in the United States, she unexpectedly became a pop star overnight. So when Tim Hardin's big evening finally arrived, the house was packed . . . but nearly everyone had come to hear this Joni Mitchell chick. She was wonderful, of course, and held the huge crowd spellbound, in the palm of her hand, and when she was through, the standing ovation seemed to go on forever. Then Tim Hardin came out on stage, and Ms. Mitchell left . . . and so did a good quarter of the audience. The doors of this dark gymnasium, enormous ones, were on either side of the stage, and the lobby outside was brightly lit. So the policy was to keep those doors shut while someone was performing onstage. Otherwise, you were shining a big light into the audience's face, wrecking the ambience. Those wishing to enter or leave were required by ushers to wait until the song-in-progress was over. This is good policy when only a few people want to go through the doors. When many people try to leave at once, however, the result is large milling crowds on either side of the stage. As far as they were concerned, the show was over. The star had already performed, and this blockage at the door was just some temporary screwup. They made no attempt to keep silent -- didn't even bother keeping their voices down. Some shouted, the better to be heard over that guy onstage nattering on about carpenters and tinkers. Cigarettes were lit, some containing tobacco; raucous laughter rose above the general hubbub. Tim soldiered on. He finished his first song, to a smattering of applause, watched the doors open and a flood of people race to escape his music. He began another song, watched more chattering crowds form at his left and right as he sang, and flee the moment they were allowed to. He started a third tune; same result. He stopped in midsong, unslung his guitar, leaned closer to the mike, said, very softly, "How would you like it if somebody pissed in your canteen?" and left. Some folks didn't even notice. But they sure noticed when an avenging angel swept down from the bleachers, trailing blond hair like fire. Ms. Mitchell sprang onstage, grabbed the mike, and for the next five minutes, she cursed that crowd. We were barbarians, pigs, reptile excrement; she profoundly regretted having performed for us, and would tell every act she knew not to come here because we didn't deserve to hear music; she maligned us and our relatives and ancestors until she ran out of breath, and stormed offstage. Leaving behind hundreds of baffled people . . . and a handful like me, cheering even louder than we had for her songs. Mr. Hardin cut that tour short and went back to heroin. His performance at Woodstock the following year was cut from the movie. It took him another 10 horrid years to die, at 39. At his final gig in 1979, they say he just played one song -- Hoagy Carmichael's Georgia -- over and over. I've been waiting 33 years for a chance to thank the first Canadian I ever met for her magnificent rudeness -- not to mention her astonishing command of invective -- and now I've finally got it done. If there's ever anything I can do for you, Ms. Mitchell, I am yours to command." regards, pat NP: It'll Never Happen Again - Tim Hardin http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1502641&f=0 Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:54:41 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Shawn Colvin NJC Chat online with Shawn Colvin on Monday, April 16th at 8PMET/5PM PT. Log on to chat.msn.com ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:12:28 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Request oi alessandra! bemvinda ` jmdl! aqui o wally na argentina. alias, seu ingljs i bem legal!!! a gente se fala. wallyK, com saudades do brasil... - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de SCJoniGuy@aol.com Enviado el: Lunes, 16 de Abril de 2001 08:48 a.m. Para: alessand@openlink.com.br CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Request <> NP (Now Playing) Warren Zevon, "Fistful of Rain" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:22:56 -0400 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: Martinis (NJC) Kerry asked: > This cracked me up. I recently started actually LIKING martinis. > Does that > qualify me for Joni fest?? Kerry! Oh there are martinis a plenty at Jonifests, but fortunately for amaretto-loving people like me it's not a requirement...LOL! They let me come anyways! :-) Kakki makes the most gorgeous glasses! Love Nikki (still working on more converts...lol) "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:33:16 -0400 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: Jonatha Brooke's "Linger" (NJC) Speaking of Jonatha...I just saw her performance on Louisiana Jukebox! It was such a small intimate setting, and she looked like she was having a great time. She did Linger, Digging, Red Dress and as a special bonus Michael got her to play Because I Told You So. Hearing the songs acoustically like that added a whole new dimension to songs like "Linger" where the band adds a lot on the album. A lot of the emotion in it was very evident I'm so glad I got to see this performance! Did anyone else catch the show? Anyone interested can write me privately. Love Nikki np: The sound of the microwave "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > SMEBD@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:22 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Jonatha Brooke's "Linger" (NJC) > > > Again, from Rolling Stone Daily: > > DAILY VIDEO: JONATHA BROOKE'S "LINGER" > > The singer-songwriter returns with her first single from "Steady Pull." > http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/playvideo.asp?sid=453050 > > > Stephen--NP Linda Ronstadt (w/ Stone Ponies) Stoney End ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:19:28 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Jonatha story (NJC) I have an original of the LA Times story on Jonatha from 3/29/01. I'd be happy to mail it to any of you Jonatha fans out there. I only have one, though! All the best! - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.cpmusic.com/scdh "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:04:59 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Ballad of the Rude Canadian Thanks for this, what a great story and how wonerdful of Joni to do this. How awful for Mr Hardin. This must have been extremely painful for him. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:24:41 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: JoniFest 2000- New England on CD Wow! This is really cool. I'm listening to JMDLers from last summer on the big stereo and it's too cool! The sound is great! Thanks Bob Muller for making this huge, 4 CD set for me. Thanks to Rose Marie Joy for the great photography. (Rose: I hope to give you some competition this year!) Thanks to John van Tiel for co-creating the CD layout. Thanks to Anne Sandstrom, Jenny Goodspeed, John van Tiel, Claudia SanSoucie, Bob Muller (again!), Leslie Mixon, Victor Johnson, Ashara Stanfield, that producer of Louisianna Jukebox (I _had_ his name around here somewhere.....), and Wally Kairuz for playing and singing with their hearts and voices. Thanks to all of the uncredited accompanists and guest vocalists. Thanks to Ashara (again!) for having the huzpah, foresight, wisdom, planning, and heart to bring all of these wonderful folks together. Most of all, thanks to engineer, bandleader, and keyboardist extraordiare, Chuck Eisenhardt for capturing such a wonderful, wonderful souvenir. You guys are the BEST! Jim L'Hommedieu *** Now Playing: John's touching "Tofu Song". *** Was Playing this afternoon: David Lahm's wonderful new one: "More Jazz Takes On Joni Mitchell" *** Will Be Playing this weekend: Over The Rhine, Cowboy Junkies and Jonatha Brooke. All on Saturday Night. *** So much music, so little time..... ps- I bought a tambourine last weekend....... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:39:57 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Airto and Guerin in L.A. this week Welcome Alessandra! My favorite music next to Joni is any and all Brazilian. While looking at the live music listings in the L.A. Weekly today, everything looked pretty bleak and I was starting to whine until this caught my eye: Flora Purim and Airto Moreira this Tuesday - Thursday at the Catalina Bar & Grill in Hollywood! I'm going to try for one of the nights and maybe even take my Don Juan vinyl in for an autograph ;-) Also noticed that jazz vocalist David Basse will be performing with Herman Riley, Mike Melvoin, John Heard and John Guerin Wednesday at The Jazz Spot in Los Feliz. Guess I'll have to dig out the old Hissing vinyl, too. Hope that some of the local JMDL'ers can catch these shows. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:32:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JoniFest 2000- New England on CD You're welcome, Jim...you're not too shabby in the sharing department yourself! ;~) I've enjoyed that set a number of times over the past couple of weeks, listening in while I was copying for various people. Hell should be getting hers shortly, maybe it'll make her sentimental and homesick! :~) Bob NP: "God Must Be A Boogie Man", Lenox, MA 8/21/79 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:56:58 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Leonard Cohen sort of NJC Hey, just wanted to share a cool new review of my CD by a Canadian website. I was especially intrigued by the Leonard Cohen reference because I had just watched him the other night on Austin City Limits & was so captivated by his music! Can't say that I have listened to him much until this tv concert, other than his song Suzanne & some of his very early work, back in the day... Watching that concert & this review are very encouraging to my creative muse which seems to go against what most industry folk are looking for these days...music that is more hooky, more obvious, less poetic & spiritually orientated http://www.communication.ca/soundbytes/ ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:38:25 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: Bob Dylan and that crazy film hey Joni fans, just thought I'd let you know that there is a Bob Dylan/Rolling Thunder Bootleg on E-BAY it's listed under BOB DYLAN/ROLLING THUNDER REVUE.........it's $30.00 which is kind of steep, but.............it has Joni - Edith and the Kingpin, Coyote, and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow.......... now, I have no clue about the quality, I just thought die hard fans might want to know about this item............It would be interesting to hear those songs (especially "Coyote"---at it's infancy stage) live in 1975.......... Speaking of Rolling Thunder, Has anyone seen "Renaldo and Clara"? I've read that Joni is in it, at least in the background.........I have the Rolling Thunder Log, the book that has the pictures of the tour, with some fabulous pictures of Joni.......... and..........does anyone know catherine turley's e-mail??? i need to drop her a line...... thanks, PHIL ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #180 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?