From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #178 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 178 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- art ["Kate Bennett" ] art ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: art:useful? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Back to the Garden NJC [pyramus@lineone.net] RE: Useful art ["Deb Messling" ] Last Day for Lotto! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook ["Christopher J. Tre] Re: For those who care [Jerry Notaro ] Bette NJC [catman ] Re: spring (njc) ["Martin Giles" ] virus [Kammass@aol.com] FW: Over The Rhine's "Films For Radio", an open fan letter, NJC ["Jim L'H] another outstanding joni essay ["shane mattison" ] Re: another outstanding joni essay [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni in Acoustic Guitar Magazine [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Original Artwork by Joni Mitchell on Ebay [RoseMJoy@aol.com] inquiry... ["P. Henry Boland" ] Ute Lemper (NJC) [Yael Harlap ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:40:19 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: art >>>but then, what do i know? i collect heinz jars...<<< LOL >>>wallyK, who finds beauty in almost everything and art in almost anything.<<< what a lovely way to live... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:50:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: art >>>yes... my beautiful, frosted, hejira martini glass is handsomely displayed next to my wedgewood in the hutch in the dining room.<<< my beautiful martini glass has flowers! they might even be plumeria! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 05:43:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: art:useful? jim, to tell you the truth [and i know this will sound so much like a JOKE] it's been soooooooo HUMID here lately that my beloved slinky is totally rusty. i was going to buy a new one when i go to ashara's, but i'll gladly pay for shipping and stuff if you get me one!!!! i need my slinky. when i'm under a lot of stress, i play with my slinky and cares just vanish. wallyK, into slinkies... - -----Mensaje original----- De: Jim L'Hommedieu [mailto:jlamadoo@home.com] Enviado el: Sabado, 14 de Abril de 2001 02:52 a.m. Para: _JMDL; Wally Kairuz Asunto: RE: art:useful? Wally, You're buying American curios like Slinkies from a place in the Hamptons? I'll make you a deal. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:00:53 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Back to the Garden NJC Thank you for sharing Mags. I used to do some photography but I the results were always poor and never close to the reality of nature. I have seen some professional ones though and some are fantastic. I was down by the sea yesterday and there was a photographic exhibition of seascapes. They were wonderful. You mention finding beauty in the most simple of things. This is so true. We miss so much by not looking closely. I learnt to open my eyes wide long ago and it informs my whole life now. Incidentally, if you ever get the chance try and catch the film "The Scent of Green Papaya" by the Vietnamese director Tran Anh Hung. It is a good example of this very subject. - -----Original Message----- From: mags [mailto:pholden@iprimus.ca] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:44 AM To: pyramus@lineone.net; Kate Bennett Subject: Re: hi you two..just thought i would chime in and share my spring. I love this time of year so much...I love how it smells, looks, feels. And after the winter we had here in Southern Ontario.....well this is how that went. ... we had snow from the first of November !!! (right Catherine!) and never really got a break so it is wonderful to see things growing out there! There is such a sense of hope and magic at this time of year. Yesterday I was watching the grass turn green and I saw the buds bursting right outside my window. There are three tall maple trees on the property... I love to watch the light at various times of day too...it just calms me. I am an amateur photographer of sorts.. so I am always looking at things. I find beauty/ in the most simple things... things like you mention....the way the branches of willows hold up that golden light, almost like long fingers, against a dramatic spring sky.... I am always inspired to write on days like this; moved to the core. guess Im a flower child too.... ;)) Mags. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 06:15:37 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: Useful art Let me be the resident curmudgeon and remind people to tag their NJC posts properly. Thanks. New listers, if a post doesn't have any Joni content, we're supposed to put NJC in the subject line so they can be filtered out of the Joni-only list and digest. > what a naughty boy you are!!! > > > My wife gave me a beautiful glass bong for Christmas > this year. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:52:10 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Last Day for Lotto! Happy weekend to Joni fans everywhere! Just an inoffensive (I hope) reminder that today is the last day to toss me a number in the giveaway for Covers, Volume 16... If you haven't already done so, send me a private message with your three-digit guess. I'll announce the grand prize winner tomorrow. Meanwhile, if you want a copy of V16 or ANY of the others in the series, let me know and I'll give you all the info you need to enjoy them in the privacy of your own earspace. Bob NP: Ani, "whatall is nice" (C'mon Ani, pick up the frickin' tempo, willya!?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:56:26 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Re: Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook Pick me, Pick me! Let me know. Thanks, Chris NP: Laura Nyro - "Walk On By" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:52:19 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: For those who care Emilia Bedelia wrote: > Hi, just for those of you who care or want to know, I got a 97 on the project i did on joni! well thanks for you help! bye Congratulations, now stick around. You'll find this a very caring group. Jerry np: Laura Nyro - Walk On By ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:21:49 +0100 From: catman Subject: Bette NJC We have now seen 2 episodes of Bette and thoroughly enjoyed them. I was wondering if maybe it didn't do too well over there because it is Bette sending herself up. I have got the impression over the years that this sort of humour doesn't sit well with Americans. As a matter of interest, the english guy, Dreyfuss, is often on tv here, the best for a series called Gimme Gimme Gimme with Bathy Burke. I doubt that will appear on your screens as it is rather rude! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:39:02 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: spring (njc) Where I used to work up until a year ago, I had a huge old maple tree outside my window. I used to watch the seasons on it. One spring that had been very dry for weeks, I could see all the leaf buds just held in suspension. For weeks they just stayed as buds without opening. Then one weekend we had rain almost incessantly. When I came into work on Monday, all the leaves were out in their delicate spring pale green - wondeful. Where I work now, I have no windows, and no trees to look out on if I had. I really miss that maple. Mother nature's art at it's best! atb, Martin in London. > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:50:47 +0100 (BST) > From: pyramus@lineone.net > Subject: [none] > > Kate said: > > < opinion. My favorite flower right now is Plumeria. Just intoxicating.... > > Kate, still a flower child >> > > > Well said Kate. It is a beautiful sunny morning here in the U.K. From my apartment window I have a view of the most beautiful willow which is lit golden in the sunlight and swaying in the breeze. You couldn't hope to paint it or express its beauty in words. You would have to see it. > > pyramus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:15:12 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: virus I just received the snow white virus today. I deleted right away and then went and deleted the previous deleted files. Is that all I need to do?? I only receive email from the JMDL , so it has to have come from here. Thanks for the warnings, Kammy from Alabammy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:47:33 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: FW: Over The Rhine's "Films For Radio", an open fan letter, NJC JMDLers- Here's my recent fan letter to a band called "Over The Rhine". - -----Original Message----- From: Jim L'Hommedieu [mailto:jlamadoo@home.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:32 PM To: OTRhine@aol.com Cc: Niki Dakota Subject: Over The Rhine, an open fan letter Hey kids! I love the album! The moods are very interesting and fit right into my mood of introspection at the end of the day. Since this is when I sit down in front of the big stereo, it's a happy coincidence and it means that I've become a booster and a fan. As a picky audiophile with a nice rig, I really appreciate the great care that someone took with the drum sound. (It doesn't sound like a compressed-up Eagles-like 20 mic setup. One can actually hear the skin sound, like the real thing.) As a Joni Mitchell fan, I really appreciate the articulate yet amorphous stories in your lyrics. The skill, love, care, and craft come right through. I love the way you convey metaphor, Karin. I'll admit that I struggled with my introduction to OTR (Good Dog, Bad Dog) but after seeing your appearances opening for Margo and crew, and the skillful and myriad ways you fleshed out their live sound, I realized there was more there. When I heard "The World Can Wait" on WNKU, spun by your old friend Niki, I knew right away I'd love the new album. (As it turns out, my present favorite track is "I Radio Heaven". As with Steely Dan, the most obvious radio song isn't always the one that touches me most.) The art direction on this album is just superb too. I'm gushing, I know. But really, this is an artistic homerun! Congratulations and thanks! I'm sending a copy of this as a post to the Joni Mitchell Discussion List in hopes of enlightening or maybe even converting a few souls. Jim L'Hommedieu Erlanger, KY cc: Niki, JMDL ** JMDLers. Get hip. You can't hear the sound on the list. Log on to http://overtherhine.com/home.html and look around. Or log onto www.wnku.org if Over The Rhine isn't on the radio locally. Your soul will thank you. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:27:37 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: another outstanding joni essay thankyou for your discovering and relaying one of the finest and most thoughtful essays i've read on SIQUOMB; sam had a penetrating take on the same shlock atmosphere that joni has frustratingly had to deal with her whole career...yet thankfully there are many good examples out there, like jane siberry, who blaze their own trail and show that real creativity is its own reward...it was always thus and how could it not be? cheers, shane http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong and check out a great site of jane's at: http://www.sheeba.ca/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:33:57 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: another outstanding joni essay << thankyou for your discovering and relaying one of the finest and most thoughtful essays i've read on SIQUOMB >> You're quite welcome, Shane...it's amazing how much Joni is out there on the web once you start snooping around. I thought Sam hit it right on the head, he made a couple minor errors but his heart is definitely in the right place. He had me with his first sentence: "Joni Mitchell is." That pretty much says it all, but here's one more passge I'll share for the benfit of those who didn't or couldn't get to the URL: "Before I type out one of her brilliant lyrics, I'm going to say a difficult thing: I don't believe that we have new writers as good as her or some of the other composers mentioned here. If other Jonies exist they're choosing to obscure their eloquent highmindedness by writing as Everyman or Woman." Don't know that i TOTALLY agree, but it's always nice to read something from someone who "gets it"... Bob NP: Ani, "imagine that" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:20:01 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Joni in Acoustic Guitar Magazine Jim Johanson informs us on Joni Mitchell.com that there's an article about Joni in the May issue of Acoustic Guitar Magazine. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:18:44 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Original Artwork by Joni Mitchell on Ebay There's an original piece of artwork being auctioned on Ebay. "NIGHTTIME AT THE NUCLEUS" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423898293 rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:42:48 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: inquiry... if I may ask a favor, if there is anyone onlist who's a member of ClassMates.com, pls write me privately. I have a small, Joni related favor to ask. tia, pat Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:58:10 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: Ute Lemper (NJC) Does anyone here like tall lanky blondes with amazing voices? Raise your hand. I just discovered another one. Her name is Ute Lemper and she is a very classy and mah-velous German cabaret singer. Though I am a grad student in psychology, last semester I had the fortune to take an undergrad cabaret class (for kicks) taught by famed cabaret singer Joan Morris, and one of the songs I interpreted was a Kurt Weill song that Ute interprets... She does a lot of Kurt Weill. So I listened to her singing "I'm a stranger here myself" and was intrigued... but let it lie. Last night Ute played a small venue here in Ann Arbor, so I went and sat in the cheapo student seats. It was awesome! I don't know that I have ever heard anyone sing so expressively. She was goofy and funny and fun and bittersweet and tragic in English and German and French all in an evening. I was particularly taken by a 1931 song called "Munchhausen." I'm going to include the lyrics even though they're kind of long, because I am so in love with them right now. They seem sort of maudlin and sappy... until you think about them in the context of pre-WWII Berlin of 1931... Munchhausen (English lyrics by Jeremy Lawrence, from a translation by Alan Lareau) I came across a wond'rous tree As prickly as a porcupine This cactus tree bore luscious fruit And giant roses red as wine It rose so high into the sky Its top was far, far out of sight Its leaves recoiled from the day And then they turned to gold at night And if you bored into its bark Hot coffee poured out rich and dark Liar liar liar liar liar liar I'm sick and tired of lies from you But how I wish your lies were true Liar liar liar liar liar liar Truth is hard and tough as nails That's why we need fairy tales I'm all through with logical conclusions Why should I deny myself illusions. I saw a film the other day That really varied from the norm There were no soldiers on parade And no one marched in uniform Its heroes were not supermen And no one even shot a gun The audience still loved the film Though not a single war was won But I was really shocked to see This film was made in Germany Liar liar liar liar liar liar etc. I saw a court of law where all The justices were just again Where all the lawyers worked for free And all of them were honest men You could be rich you could be poor You could be Christian or a Jew Your politics did not have sway On how a judge would rule on you Their hearts were young, their minds were free They judged all men equally I saw a woman trying hard To feed her family of ten She was poor and destitute And worse was pregnant once again She knew what they would say in church She sought a doctor out instead Who told her if she had the child That she herself might well end dead Then in a calm and gentle voice He said the law says its your choice Liar liar liar liar liar liar etc. I saw a brave republic where One banner flew for all to see Its stripes of black and red and gold Proclaim a new democracy All banners from the past were banned The empire's black and white and red Yes now the black and red and gold Is flying everywhere instead And nowhere will you see those flags Which sport that thing that zigs and zags Liar liar liar liar liar liar etc. I saw a land that hated war And melted all its weapons down To build a boat of love for kids Who planned to sail from town to town Declaring peace for all the world Let killing now come to an end Embrace your enemies instead Your former foe is now your friend Ev'ry conflict now will cease And all of us will live in peace Liar liar liar liar liar liar etc. Excuse the length... but I hope some peeps liked that. Hugs, and happy Easter to those Easter-celebrating folks, Yael ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #178 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?