From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #176 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, April 14 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 176 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: art:useful? [catman ] Re: art:useful? ["Kakki" ] Thank you, Bob [Jodcrazee@aol.com] Re: RE: Art (Some Joni content) [pyramus@lineone.net] [none] [pyramus@lineone.net] Fwd: Hard-to-find books made easy! [Kammass@aol.com] Re: art:useful? [Robert Holliston ] "The Bjork Incident" and related stuff (njc, not very long or provocative) [AzeemAK@aol.] RE: art:useful? ["Wally Kairuz" ] moral tale NJC [catman ] NJC RE: art:useful? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: art:useful? [Heather ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [Heather ] Useful art [Ian Cropton ] James Taylor (NJC) [SMEBD@aol.com] Jonatha Brooke's "Linger" (NJC) [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: James Taylor (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] The Indigo Girls NJC ["kerry" ] RE: art:useful? ["Stephen Epstein" ] Another outstanding Joni essay [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: art:useful? NJC ["kerry" ] Re: NJC Dido Live In London [Catherine McKay ] Re: spring njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [Catherine McKay ] Re: James Taylor (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] RE: art:useful? [Catherine McKay ] immature nature (njc) [jan gyn ] Re: Useful art [jan gyn ] Re: art:useful? [Phyliss Ward ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [catman ] Re: art:useful? [catman ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [catman ] Re: spring njc [catman ] Re: James Taylor (NJC) [catman ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [Catherine McKay ] Re: spring njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: James Taylor (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] For those who care [Emilia Bedelia ] Joni On DVD-A; 100% JC !!! ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: For those who care [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: For those who care [catman ] Re: spring njc [catman ] Re: NJC RE: art:useful? [catman ] Re: James Taylor (NJC) [catman ] Re: NJC useful art and bunny time ["Kakki" ] Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook [Mark Domyancich ] croci njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Useful art ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: art:useful? ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: art:useful? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook [Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: art:useful? Kakki wrote: > A hand-painted martini glass. A posh lush? Not our Kakki surely? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:28:17 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: art:useful? Surely not! Kakki, with only a week left to paint one up for Jimmy's visit to L.A. ;-) > > A hand-painted martini glass. > > A posh lush? Not our Kakki surely? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:27:56 EDT From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: Thank you, Bob A big thank you to Bob for the cd's you sent. I hardly knew where to begin! I loved the artwork. Thank you for your time. J. O'D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:41:21 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Re: RE: Art (Some Joni content) Nikki, You wrote <> Same with me, although I must admit my first experience of Joni was in 1970. My father was throwing a party and asked me to go out and buy five singles for the music. 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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 03:07:21 -0700 From: Robert Holliston Subject: Re: art:useful? Yes, yes, I say. As the proud possessor of a genuine hand-painted-by-Kakki martini glass, I have to say that it is both a work of art and a useful addition to my kitchen (even if I only use it on very special occasions). It has a STAS motif and I will always cherish it. As for what constitutes popular rather than high art, I have to offer only this: only a few centuries ago, composers such as Vivaldi, Handel, Mozart and Rossini were compelled to write new works as fast as they could, because the public simply wasn't interested in last week's music. Even the composers had no expectation that their work would have a life beyong the season during which it was first heard. Today, of course, many people regard the works of these and other composers not only as classics but as standard bearers. So, who's to know? What is considered ephemeral in one century may well become a classic in a subsequent one. The main thing is to enjoy, keep an open mind about, and learn from the exposure to whatever art we're privileged enough to encounter. Love it or hate it, it's there to provoke feelings and, if you're lucky, discussion. Not a very intellectual contribution, alas, but I send my very best wishes to everybody by way of compensation ;-) Roberto np Mahler Das Lied von der Erde Kakki wrote: > A hand-painted martini glass. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:14:32 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: "The Bjork Incident" and related stuff (njc, not very long or provocative) Marcel, Your exhaustive post to the list lets us all know where you stand; however, it leaves some of the central issues un-answered, as well as containing a lot of red herrings and sly little digs of the sort you decry other people for using (one example that sticks out is "these are not ordinary people"). I could, of course, reply off list, as is your preferred way; however, I prefer in such situations to reply to the list, as it is - quite clearly - a hot topic of interest to a lot of people. As you obliquely mentioned me in your letter (I was the one who said "it made my blood boil"), I would like to re-iterate some of the points I made to you privately, to which you have not responded. I am going to copy parts of my reply to you here, so that people can see the kind of "vitriol" that people send you. I do realise that other people may have posted more confrontational stuff to you privately, but I can only speak for myself. So that my reponses to you are in context and make sense, I have left in some of the snippets of your second post to me, on the basis that (a) there is nothing inflamatory in either your post or mine, and (b) most of what you said to me is revisited in your longer post to the list. I hope you will not regard this as a breach of confidence. A: "The first thing to say is that I did NOT attack you personally. I said that the list you posted was objectionable, and I made a point to phrase it that way. I didn't know whether you had made it up yourself anyway, and I would have had just as strong a reaction whoever had posted it. Having said that, I'm not going to be disingenuous and say I can't see why you felt I was attacking you - I can see why that is. I acknowledge that I could have been even clearer that I wasn't making an ad hominem attack; I thought at the time I was clear enough, but obviously I wasn't. M wrote: << Please keep in mind one thing. Supposedly everyone is entitled to express their thoughts without restriction. >> A: Yes they are, and the corollary of that is that others are allowed to respond without restriction. You may have thought I was paying lip service to free speech when I said that anyone is entitled to post whatever they like, but I wasn't. However, if someone posts something that others object to, then s/he has to accept that others are equally free to say "hang on a sec, that isn't OK with me", or "you're talking bollocks" or "you smell", or whatever. That's the gift and the drawback of an unmoderated list. I cannot on the one hand say that I have the right to say what I like, and on the other cry foul if I cop some flak for it. M: << Ive been on the list for over four years. I can not tell you (but maybe you suspect) how many things people have said that I vehemently disagreed with. >> A: I'm sure that is so, and I'm also pretty damn sure that the same goes for all of us. Who knows why we let nine things go and then feel impelled to respond to the tenth? Just for the record, I have "voiced" my strong disagreement with a number of people on list over the years, I can think of at least 4 off the top of my head. M: << For whatever reason Im a lightening rod. And why ? In this case I post an absolutely satiricle post and about ten people are acting like I pushed puppy dogs into a meatgrinder and served hamburgers. Im sorry but methink they protesteth too much. >> Come on Marcel! Does it not occur to you that you might actually bear at least some of the reponsibility for this? Aren't you being a tad disingenuous here? I stand by my objections to that list about Bjork - its sentiments were just nasty, and for what it's worth, I don't see anything satirical or funny about it - unlike plenty of the things you've posted in the past, such as the mock list of your "dark secrets". I'm not saying we all have to be fluffy-bunnies and love each other all the time; what I am saying is that list about Bjork touched a nerve with me, and with quite a number of other people on the list, and there may be more to it than "let's bash Marcel just for the hell of it." Put it this way, if I were to write to the list and say "Jonatha Brooke is rubbish, and the only reason she's got any success is the number of cocks she's sucked", I'd expect a few people to raise an objection. And if I then said "oh come on, I was only joking", not everyone would see that as making it alright. I look to post to the list, and ask myself "can I say what I want to say to this person and feel OK about other people seeing what I've said?" If not, I change it. It happened recently with a reply to something another lister said to someone. I re-read my reply before sending it, and discovered it was chock-full of sarcasm (which I realised was just a way of getting at him without seeming to), so I just got rid of some of it." So, that was my reply - all civilised stuff, right? I would not have the temerity to castigate you for not replying; what I would be interested to hear is your response to questions like: 1) Do you not agree that it is disrespectful to continue posting privately to people when they have SPECIFICALLY and REPEATEDLY asked you not to? 2) Do you not take any responsibility for what you post? You seem to think that you can post what you like and that if someone objects to it then they are attacking you. You also seem to think that as long as you don't use swear words, nothing you say could be offensive. I don't think it works that way. 3) Are you so sure that the reason you cop some flak is because you're a Republican? I don't think it is, I think there is a flawed logic at work: "I am a Republican. I get flak and feel attacked on the list. Therefore I get flak because I am a Republican." Have you, again, considered that the reason you are often the epicentre of flame wars is not because of how you vote, or who you are, but simply because of what you post? 4) On the one hand, you say that the vast majority of correspondence you get is positive and supportive; on the other hand, you object to being ganged up on by "them", and suddenly become the lone voice of justice, taking arms against a sea of oppressors, politically correct milksops, the "thought police", whoever. I'm not sure these two positions are consistent one with the other, are you? Finally, I would like to tell everyone on the list (because I imagine some people will not realise this) that you are as capable as anyone of having a civilised debate on contentious subjects, and of conceding a point well made; for example our debate about Marx, Freud, the spread of privatisation, etc etc. That is not the spirit in which you have approached the current debate, where you are simply ignoring other people's legitimate concerns, and getting rather carried away with a "me right, everyone else wrong" stance. Yours in a spirit of communication, Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:16:53 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: art:useful? well, there is the place in the hamptons where i usually buy all these tchotchkes [stephen epstein: what is this place called? you know, the place where i bought my slinky and the bicycle thing] and they have all these gadgets and stuff that are not only useful but also beautiful in a very artistic way. but then, what do i know? i collect heinz jars... wallyK, who finds beauty in almost everything and art in almost anything. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:03:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: moral tale NJC A woman was out golfing one day when she hit her ball into the woods. She went into the woods to look for it and found a frog in a trap. The frog said to her, "If you release me from this trap, I will grant you 3 wishes." The woman freed the frog and the frog said, "Thank you, but I failed to mention that there was a condition to your wishes that whatever you wish for, your husband will get 10 times more or better!" The woman said, "That would be okay," and for her first wish she wanted to be the most beautiful woman in the world. The frog warned her, "You do realize that this wish will also make your husband the most handsome man in the world, an Adonis, that women will flock to." The woman replied, "That will be okay because I will be the most beautiful woman and he will only have eyes for me." So, KAZAM - she's the most beautiful woman in the world! For her second wish, she wanted to be the richest woman in the world. The frog said, "That will make your husband the richest man in the world and he will be ten times richer than you." The woman said, "That will be okay because what's mine is his and what's his is mine." So, KAZAM - she's the richest woman in the world! Then the frog inquired about her third wish and she answered, "I'd like a mild heart attack." Moral of the story: Women are clever bitches. Don't mess with them. - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:28:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC RE: art:useful? This morning's Greenville News had an article about an exhibit opening this weekend at the Columbia (SC) Museum of Art. It's a collection of 17th century British Teapots! I'm sure that they were intended originally to be used, they're also object d'art too! Colin, maybe someday your sweaters will have a tour in the art galleries, alongside Joni's paintings & Kakki's martini glasses! ;~) Heather can be the tour guide...maybe her artistic nametags need to be on display as well. Bob NP: Billy Joel, "New York State of Mind" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:42:25 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: art:useful? yes... my beautiful, frosted, hejira martini glass is handsomely displayed next to my wedgewood in the hutch in the dining room. heather ps - glad you are back, kakki :-) At 09:09 PM 4/12/01 -0700, Kakki wrote: >A hand-painted martini glass. > > > > Art that is useful: > > > > A handcrafted musical instrument > > A delicious meal > > A handmade sweater > > An inlaid table > > A Frank Lloyd Wright building > > Calligraphy > > Anything that soothes the spirit, or enriches the mind (ie a song, > > a book, a painting) > > > > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:46:00 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? Yes! You should see what I have in store for this years NE Jonifest! Jimmy .... not a word!!! Heather At 08:28 AM 4/13/01 -0400, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >This morning's Greenville News had an article about an exhibit opening >this weekend at the Columbia (SC) Museum of Art. It's a collection of 17th >century British Teapots! I'm sure that they were intended originally to be >used, they're also object d'art too! > >Colin, maybe someday your sweaters will have a tour in the art galleries, >alongside Joni's paintings & Kakki's martini glasses! ;~) > >Heather can be the tour guide...maybe her artistic nametags need to be on >display as well. > >Bob > >NP: Billy Joel, "New York State of Mind" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Cropton Subject: Useful art My wife gave me a beautiful glass bong for Christmas this year. Its got a big round bottom and a long twisted neck and the the glass is fused with swirls of different colors. It could easily be mistaken for a a flower vase. Works pretty good too, especially with some red wine in it :-) Cheers, Ian Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:19:31 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: James Taylor (NJC) From Rolling Stone daily news: JAMES TAYLOR and wife Caroline "Kim" Smedvig-Taylor became parents of twin boys late last week. Perhaps a new generation of musicians are on their way!! Stephen--NP Linda Ronstadt (w/ The Stone Poneys) Hobo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:22:09 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Jonatha Brooke's "Linger" (NJC) Again, from Rolling Stone Daily: DAILY VIDEO: JONATHA BROOKE'S "LINGER" The singer-songwriter returns with her first single from "Steady Pull." http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/playvideo.asp?sid=453050 Stephen--NP Linda Ronstadt (w/ Stone Ponies) Stoney End ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:46:05 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: James Taylor (NJC) <> JT's a bit old for this role, I would say...I mean, he's no Evian spring chicken! I was guessing his next CD to be titled "Dad Loves His Prunes"! :~) And what's the buzz I hear about Dylan having a long-lost daughter? Speaking of Dylan, there's a GREAT & long article on Dylan, Baez and the early days of the Folk Revival (1950's to early 60's) in the latest Vanity Fair. I haven't read it ALL, but I did scan it looking for Joni mentions, couldn't find any. Bob NP: Elton John, "Blues For Baby & Me" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:18:45 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: The Indigo Girls NJC Jodcrazee@aol.com wrote: <> YES!!!! I finally had time to listen to it all the way through and it's excellent! I really like "Laramie" and her Neil Young-ish (Neil Young-esque?) guitar playing. She rocks!!!!! She was just in Chicago last night. I hate when artists pass by and only stop in our somewhat larger neighbor to the south!!! (Joni, this means you, too!) Kerry NP - Jonatha - Steady Pull ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:29:51 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: RE: art:useful? Wally- Restoration Hardware! Stephen in Vancouver "Wally Kairuz" on 04/13/2001 04:16:53 AM Please respond to "Wally Kairuz" To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: RE: art:useful? well, there is the place in the hamptons where i usually buy all these tchotchkes [stephen epstein: what is this place called? you know, the place where i bought my slinky and the bicycle thing] and they have all these gadgets and stuff that are not only useful but also beautiful in a very artistic way. but then, what do i know? i collect heinz jars... wallyK, who finds beauty in almost everything and art in almost anything. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:33:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Another outstanding Joni essay Stumbled upon this one, which is really wonderful; again, lengthy but well worth the time, and the guy has even played onstage in a spontaneous jam session with siquomb: http://www.sambroussard.com/words/joni.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:44:13 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Re: art:useful? NJC >>Kakki added: A hand-painted martini glass.>> > Art that is useful: > > A handcrafted musical instrument > A delicious meal > A handmade sweater > An inlaid table > A Frank Lloyd Wright building > Calligraphy > Anything that soothes the spirit, or enriches the mind (ie a song, > a book, a painting) > > RR This cracked me up. I recently started actually LIKING martinis. Does that qualify me for Joni fest?? Kerry NP - Neil Young - Silver & Gold ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:48:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Dido Live In London - --- Jason Maloney wrote: > Hi all, > > I've seen Dido's name mentioned a few times here on > the list, so I > thought some of you might be interested to read my > account of > Wednesday's opening show at the London Shepherd's > Bush Empire. Thanks for the post, Jason. My daughter and I seem to have found common ground on Dido. Sarah has just turned 14 and usually listens to dance-type music. But the other day, she asked me if I liked Dido, and I told her that I liked what I had heard so far, and that many people that I knew were saying good things about her. Sarah told me she likes Dido too and wants to get the CD. Things are looking good on the mother/daughter front (not that we've had any major disagreements about anything. Yet.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: spring njc - --- pyramus@lineone.net wrote: > Kate said: > > < smell all the amazing shapes, colors, textures & > smells of flowers. > > Well said Kate. It is a beautiful sunny morning here > in the U.K. From my apartment window I have a view > of the most beautiful willow which is lit golden in > the sunlight and swaying in the breeze. You couldn't > hope to paint it or express its beauty in words. You > would have to see it. > We had the most amazing day yesterday here in Toronto. It started off gloomy and rainy and rather cool. But by 3 pm or so, it was gloriously sunny. Then it became extremely windy, but still warm and sunny. It was so windy, one of our downspouts got detached from the wall of the house and was blowing and banging around like crazy. I couldn't hammer the bracket back into the brick right then, so I had to tie it to the oil pipe for the time being. Stuff was blowing all over the place! Today it's a bit less windy, but still sunny. And my crocuses are in bloom, and the tulips and daffodils are going to any day soon. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > This morning's Greenville News had an article about > an exhibit opening this weekend at the Columbia (SC) > Museum of Art. It's a collection of 17th century > British Teapots! I'm sure that they were intended > originally to be used, they're also object d'art > too! There's a fish and chips restaurant close to where I live and I took the kids there for dinner last night, being too lazy too cook, and because it's the beginning of a looooonng weekend, and the weather was beautiful last night. In addition to making the best fish and chips anywhere (IMO!) they also have an amazing collection of teapots! I'm sure none are as old as the ones at the Columbia Museum, but there are some amazing pieces - at times, the line between art and kitsch becomes quite blurred, especially when it comes to oddball teapots, but I find them quite amusing and interesting (although most of them don't seem to be very useful!) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: James Taylor (NJC) - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > < Smedvig-Taylor became parents of twin boys late last > week.>> > > JT's a bit old for this role, I would say...I mean, > he's no Evian spring chicken! I was guessing his > next CD to be titled "Dad Loves His Prunes"! :~) I'm glad you said that, Bob - I thought it, but decided against saying it ;) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:15:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: art:useful? - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > well, there is the place in the hamptons where i > usually buy all these > tchotchkes What is a tchotchke? I think I can guess from context. >[stephen epstein: what is this place > called? you know, the place > where i bought my slinky and the bicycle thing] and > they have all these > gadgets and stuff that are not only useful but also > beautiful in a very > artistic way. but then, what do i know? i collect > heinz jars... I like that kind of junk too - I like those things with the metal nail-like things that you can press things up against and create 3D pictures - if they're big enough, you can get a 3C image of your face. (I'm sure you could do even cruder things, but my mind is too clean to go there!) The only reason I don't collect that kind of stuff is, too much dusting! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:50:05 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: immature nature (njc) At 10:50 AM 4/13/01 +0100, pyramus@lineone.net wrote: >Kate said: > ><opinion. My favorite flower right now is Plumeria. Just intoxicating.... > >Kate, still a flower child >> Nature rocks. But I remember, as a child briefly living in Marin County, encountering a huge, orb like spider's web within some bushes. It was the aftermath of a rainy night, and the web sparkled with water. It shuddered; and then I saw the spider wrapping up its prey. I felt fear... - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:53:41 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Useful art At 07:01 AM 4/13/01 -0700, Ian Cropton wrote: >My wife gave me a beautiful glass bong for Christmas >this year. Its got a big round bottom and a long >twisted neck and the the glass is fused with swirls of >different colors. It could easily be mistaken for a >a flower vase. > >Works pretty good too, especially with some red wine >in it :-) > >Cheers, Ian Red wine in a bong? What a great idea! I'm not into abusing my body, though, so I just use Perrier. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:46:59 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: art:useful? This Clay Artist is drawn out of lurkdom by the "useful art" thread! There is a long standing argument in the "Art World, commonly fought over ceramic pieces, about Art vs. Craft. Take for example a bowl. What if it is a beautifully hand-thrown and painted bowl? What about tupperware? Craft or Art? Where is the line drawn? Some purist say if it has a function, period, it is Craft, not Art. This has led my husband to make only non-functional pieces so that he can call it Art. Some of his pieces strongly resemble teapots but have no bottom, rendering them non-functional. I still contend that even a salad bowl can be beyond craft and into Art. - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:51:47 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? > Colin, maybe someday your sweaters will have a tour in the art galleries, I hope not! unless they wewre being wron by real people! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:52:53 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: art:useful? > . This has led my > husband to make only non-functional pieces so that he can call it Art. > Some of his pieces strongly resemble teapots but have no bottom, > rendering them non-functional. Good for him and shows how silly the distiction is! > I still contend that even a salad bowl > can be beyond craft and into Art. I quite agree! > > > -- > Phyliss > mailto:pward@datacourse.com - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:56:29 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? Catherine McKay wrote: > --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > This morning's Greenville News had an article about > > an exhibit opening this weekend at the Columbia (SC) > > Museum of Art. It's a collection of 17th century > > British Teapots! I'm sure that they were intended > > originally to be used, they're also object d'art > > too! > > There's a fish and chips restaurant close to where I > live and I took the kids there for dinner last night, > being too lazy too cook, and because it's the > beginning of a looooonng weekend, and the weather was > beautiful last night. In addition to making the best > fish and chips anywhere are they proper chips? i.e cut from potatoes, thick and deep fired? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:57:49 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: spring njc > And my crocuses are in bloom, don't you mean croci? sorry, just doing a Paul! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:59:59 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: James Taylor (NJC) Catherine McKay wrote: > --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > < > Smedvig-Taylor became parents of twin boys late last > > week.>> > > > > JT's a bit old for this role, I would say...I mean, > > he's no Evian spring chicken! I was guessing his > > next CD to be titled "Dad Loves His Prunes"! :~) > > I'm glad you said that, Bob - I thought it, but > decided against saying it ;) > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca As one who prides himself on being anti most things, I must declare I find these comments most offensive. We must not allow ageism to flourish on this list. Especially considering the age of most of you! - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? - --- catman wrote: > are they proper chips? i.e cut from potatoes, thick > and deep fired? > You're damn right they are! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: spring njc - --- catman wrote: > > And my crocuses are in bloom, > > don't you mean croci? > > sorry, just doing a Paul! > I did call them croci the other day - no one knew what I was talking about. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: James Taylor (NJC) - --- catman wrote: > > > Catherine McKay wrote: > > > --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > > < > > Smedvig-Taylor became parents of twin boys late > last > > > week.>> > > > > > > JT's a bit old for this role, I would say...I > mean, > > > he's no Evian spring chicken! I was guessing his > > > next CD to be titled "Dad Loves His Prunes"! :~) > > > > I'm glad you said that, Bob - I thought it, but > > decided against saying it ;) > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at > http://mail.yahoo.ca > > As one who prides himself on being anti most things, > I must declare I > find these comments most offensive. We must not > allow ageism to flourish > on this list. Especially considering the age of most > of you! > Speak for yourself, you old fart! (takes one to know one.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Emilia Bedelia Subject: For those who care Hi, just for those of you who care or want to know, I got a 97 on the project i did on joni! well thanks for you help! bye Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:27:04 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni On DVD-A; 100% JC !!! Joni is now ***available*** on DVD-A. This disc will play on any DVD player that has Dolby Digital compatibility. Whether or not it sounds better may depend on the relative quality of your DVD, CD, or DVD-Audio components. (i.e., if you have a dirt cheap DVD Video player, it may sound better on a hi end CD.) No word on whether the surround was recorded that way in the UK or whether it was generated.... uh.... mechanically. As far as I've heard no one on the jmdl even owns a DVD-Audio player yet. No wonder... no Joni... till NOW!!! *** DVD-A Joni Mitchell / Both Sides Now / Grammy Winner / This DVD-A has three sections and the first two sections listed are only accessible by using a DVD-A player: 1. Advanced Resolution Stereo 2. Advanced Resolution 6-channel Surround Sound 3. DVD Video Compatible Dolby Digital (Reprise) CREP 47620 = $24.98 They can be reached at: asounds@acousticsounds.com or call 1-800-716-3553 (USA Only) or 785-825-8609. Beware though, these guys are traditionally higher-priced than anyone else on the planet. Lama np: TTT BTW, tonight's the second night of 8 PM - 6 AM curfew in the city of Cincinnati tonight. The cops MUST stop shooting citizens, especially young, black men. It's simple folks. Not only was the guy unarmed, his outstanding warrants were for misdemeanors. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:58:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: For those who care In a message dated 4/13/01 5:47:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hoops3119@yahoo.com writes: > Hi, just for those of you who care or want to know, I got a 97 on the > project i did on joni! well thanks for you help! bye > Woo Hoo That's Great Amelia! rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:01:52 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: For those who care EXCELLENT! thanks for letting us know bw colin Emilia Bedelia wrote: > Hi, just for those of you who care or want to know, I got a 97 on the project i did on joni! well thanks for you help! bye > Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:03:43 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: spring njc > I did call them croci the other day - no one knew what > I was talking about. don't tell me-Americans? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:04:39 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC RE: art:useful? When in the US I finally found out they were called 'homefries' but they were not chip shaped! Yummy tho. Catherine McKay wrote: > --- catman wrote: > > are they proper chips? i.e cut from potatoes, thick > > and deep fired? > > > > You're damn right they are! > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:07:32 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: James Taylor (NJC) > Speak for yourself, you old fart! (takes one to know > one.) THAT'S IT! I can't stand all this abuse and name calling any longer. I am outta(see I can speak American) here!(at least till the next post). By the way, I don't fart, old or young. I have manners. On a related note accoridng to medical whizz kids, farting sevarl times a day helps keep your bowells healthy and lress likely to get cancer! Open those beans! > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:10:09 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC useful art and bunny time Heather wrote: > Yes! You should see what I have in store for this years NE > Jonifest! Jimmy .... not a word!!! Oooo, Heather! Can't wait to see! And Kerry, you absolutely qualify for the Jonifest just by being here (but I'll bring some extra olives for 'ya ;-) Happy Easter and Passover for those who celebrate and may everyone's paths be strewn with chocolate bunnies. Kakki NP: Simon and Garfunkel - Voices of Intelligent Dissent Concert - Hollywood Bowl - 1968- "At The Zoo" (geez, this is an astounding recording - they were perfection live - thanks to my friend Scott) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:22:24 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook Hey everyone, I've been meaning to post this for MONTHS! I have a photocopied copy of "The Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook up for grabs. Terry M. sent it to me a long time ago and I purchased the real-deal so I have no need for the photocopies. All I need from YOU is 1 priority mail stamp, mailed to me (inside an envelope) and I will mail it to you with that stamp on it. I will randomly pick one person, but you must be from the U.S. That's my only stipulation! I'm not ethnocentric or anything, I just don't want to deal with international mail right now. I will post again when I pick someone. Please reply privately because for some reason my posts aren't showing up on the list. Thanks! Mark NP-Taming The Tiger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:33:45 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Another outstanding Joni essay thanks, that was goooooood! how do you find this stuff? take care and happy easter gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Another outstanding Joni essay > Stumbled upon this one, which is really wonderful; again, lengthy but well worth the time, and the guy has even played onstage in a spontaneous jam session with siquomb: > > http://www.sambroussard.com/words/joni.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:42:07 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: croci njc well, i don't want to tell on anyone, but mr stephen epstein was corrected by a beautiful canadian lady when he said ''crocuses''. i thought it was very improper of her, of course. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de catman Enviado el: Viernes, 13 de Abril de 2001 08:04 p.m. Para: Catherine McKay CC: pyramus@lineone.net; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: spring njc > I did call them croci the other day - no one knew what > I was talking about. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:49:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Useful art ian!!!! what a naughty boy you are!!! wallyK, bong crazy - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Ian Cropton Enviado el: Viernes, 13 de Abril de 2001 11:02 a.m. Para: Joni Discussion-List Asunto: Useful art My wife gave me a beautiful glass bong for Christmas this year. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:52:10 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: art:useful? that's the place!!!!!! restoration hardware!!!! everything they sell there is a work of art and at the same time it serves some practical purpose like peeling potatoes or combing your hair. very NICE... wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: Stephen Epstein [mailto:sepstein@agmont.com] Enviado el: Viernes, 13 de Abril de 2001 12:30 p.m. Para: Wally Kairuz CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: RE: art:useful? Wally- Restoration Hardware! Stephen in Vancouver "Wally Kairuz" on 04/13/2001 04:16:53 AM Please respond to "Wally Kairuz" To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: RE: art:useful? well, there is the place in the hamptons where i usually buy all these tchotchkes [stephen epstein: what is this place called? you know, the place where i bought my slinky and the bicycle thing] and they have all these gadgets and stuff that are not only useful but also beautiful in a very artistic way. but then, what do i know? i collect heinz jars... wallyK, who finds beauty in almost everything and art in almost anything. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:57:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: art:useful? oh a tchotchke [god only knows how it is spelled...] is yiddish for trinket, i guess... wallyK, into languages - -----Mensaje original----- De: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Enviado el: Viernes, 13 de Abril de 2001 01:16 p.m. Para: Wally Kairuz; joni@smoe.org Asunto: RE: art:useful? What is a tchotchke? I think I can guess from context. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:40:45 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Photocopies of "Music of Joni Mitchell" songbook Michael Paz is the lucky recipient!!! Mark NP-Dave & Tim, 2/23/99 - The Temple (Jesus Christ Superstar cover!) At 8:22 PM -0500 4/13/01, I wrote: >I will post again when I pick someone. Please reply privately >because for some reason my posts aren't showing up on the list. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:12:36 +0800 From: "Australian Seashells" Subject: Please screen this message for suitability (NJC) Hello listmembers, This has just arrived here and I was wondering whether it isn't of interest for everyone on the JMDL list. After all, Women DO matter everywhere. The world is getting smaller and this should be a global concern. All the best, Simone _______________________________________________ Hope you can forward this as instructed. Subject: Petition If you decide not to forward this, please send it back to me. I know this is too true and so dreadful. Oprah actually featured a show about this atrocity. This is an actual petition, and "signatures" will be lost if you drop the line. Please take 3 minutes out of your life to do your part. Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon women. Since theTaliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for accidentally exposing her arm(!) while she was driving. Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors, lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and restricted to their homes. Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that they are never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior. Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging the street, even if they hold Ph.D.s. Depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women must be extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions. At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in fear. When what little medication that is left finally runs out, one doctor is considering leaving these women in front of the president's residence as a form of protest. It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has become an understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way. Women enjoyed relative freedom to work, to dress generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in public alone until only 1996. The rapidity of this transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; Women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or 'culture,' but it is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country. If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against women by the Taliban. STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the United Nations and that the current situation overseas will not be tolerated. Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it is UNACCEPTABLE for women in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so much property. Equality and human decency is a fundamental RIGHT, not a freedom to be granted, whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere. 1) Giuliana D. Black, Daly City, CA, USA 2) Mariam Nayiny, Palo Alto, CA, USA 3) Sunaina Gulati-Ruh, Palo Alto, CA USA 4) Megan McCaslin, Palo Alto, CA USA 5) Blake Hallanan, San Francisco, Ca. 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