From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #159 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 159 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc [Catherine McKay] Re: Luka covers Joni [Gertus@aol.com] Re: My MTV Life (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc [catman ] Re: A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc [FMYFL@aol.c] Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... [Randy Remote ] Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... [Heather ] Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... [catman ] Liz's BYT Question [Lindsay Moon ] My CD Addictions ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #105 [Riveragelsinger@aol.com] Jonatha Brooke (NJC) Album of the Week [LeslieMixon@aol.com] Re: Liz's BYT Question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Jonatha Brooke (NJC) Album of the Week [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] cute joke njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Church of Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: For The Roses [Rusty10113@aol.com] RE: Willy the Shake is in New York, Mini Joni Fest? NJC ["patrick leader"] More jazz takes D lahm NJC ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Church of Mitchell/Joni's Bar and Grill ["BRIAN SYMES" Subject: A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc Someone sent me the following URL - This is really cool - what a pretty planet! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:27:41 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Luka covers Joni In a message dated 02/04/01 08:25:52 GMT Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: Paul wrote about Luka Bloom:- > > > The other day, browsing in a record store, I noticed that > Luka Bloom (Irish singer - brother of Christy Moore) had > recorded a version of 'Urge for Going' on his new album > 'Keeper of The Flame'. > > In addition to Joni, he also covers The Cures' 'In Between > Days', Abba's 'Dancing Queen' and Radiohead's 'No Surprises', > amongst others. On his website I found this in a recent interview > with a German newspaper - > > "For me there is a connection between the songwriting of > Thom Yorkes and Joni Mitchell. Both of them express their > feelings. They just do it in a different way." > I've been listening to Radiohead a lot recently and, although I would never have thought of comparing there music to Joni's, in a way, I know what Luka means. The music is certainly compelling listening and I always think of it as orchestral, which, I know is the way Joni thinks of lots of her material. Not sure you can compare the two lyrically though. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:37:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My MTV Life (SJC) - --- MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > > But in a close third place is the guy who invented > the CD player. Especially > the CAR CD player. .... >Maybe you have the same experience with > your car as I do. Sometimes a person wants to be alone. My mother used to lock herself in the bathroom with a coffee, her cigarettes and a crossword puzzle and she wouldn't come out for at least an hour. The lock on our bathroom door doesn't work very well, so if I try to lock myself in to get some peace and quiet, invariably one of the kids pushes hard enough to open the door. It seems Mum isn't allowed any QUIET TIME. As a result, I sometimes go for drives JUST so I can listen to the music that I like and not hear anyone's voice nagging me for this or that, or complaining that brother or sister is bugging them. At times like that, I won't allow the kids to come with me because, in addition to clamoring for STUFF and fighting with each other, they're going to make snide comments about the weird music I listen to, and will want to play their popstars-type CDs or listen to CISS-FM (which is Toronto's "popstars-type" radio station, featuring a lot of NSync, Brittney Spears and more than the necessary quota of drum-synth loops, which gets my nervous system all twitchy and makes me want to kill someone, but I digress). I have also been known to sing in the car (but never when I have any passengers with me!) It must look really weird to other drivers, but I don't care. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:49:00 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc it's amazing how densely populated some places are and how empty others are. This is a beautiful picture. Catherine McKay wrote: > Someone sent me the following URL - This is really > cool - what a pretty planet! > > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:50:54 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: My MTV Life (SJC) > It must look > really weird to other drivers, but I don't care. i sing too and really get into it. I wa caught in an m'way jam and was singing away. i happened to look to my right and there was a trucker smiling at me. He wasn't being mean-he obviously enjoyed seeing me having fun! > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:38:30 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: A photograph of the earth, taken coming back from... njc In a message dated 4/2/01 2:43:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: << Someone sent me the following URL - This is really cool - what a pretty planet! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg >> That is beautiful Catherine, but where are the border lines that separate each of the countries :~) Jimmy (it's not easy being a dumb bald guy) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 01:43:34 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > >CUNTSPANKS > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > >KISS KISS KISS > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > >should stick to 3rd
> >grade...
> >
> >>From: haylie clarke > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> >>
> >>kitty :)
> >>
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:28:40 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: For the Roses Hi fellow Joni fans, Well, all this talk about "For the Roses" made me want to put my two cents in.......... "FTR" is one of Joni's strangest and least accessible albums (in my opinion)..........possibly because it bridges the gap between two completely different albums, "Blue, C&S".........After starting off with "Blue" and "C&S", I jumped radically to "Hissing" and found it surprisingly accessible..........Then I quickly bought the rest of her 70's catalog.............and out of all the albums, "FTR" and "Don Juan" were the two that took the longest to grow on me......."Cold Blue Steel" was one of the few tracks that stood out, and it took quite awhile for me to anjoy the album...........Now I love it................I was just surprised that an album from her "folk" period took so long for me to get into................ :) PHIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:53:45 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: NJC catman wrote: > NEW STATE SLOGANS.... > Illinois: Please Don't Pronounce the "S" This is my native state and how it grinds me when someone says Ill-i-noise > Michigan: First Line Of Defense From The Canadians And this is my state of choice and all I can say is that after we took care of the Canadians in the War of 1812, America hasn't been attacked by them since -- when was the last time any American here was attacked by a Canadian -- so we have done a good job! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:19:03 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... i'm sorry .... but this did crack me up! LOL! cuntspanks?! that's a new term that i wasn't aware of. :-D heather ps - my dad could be quite quippy at times. if someone told him to kiss their ass he would say ..." mark off a spot 'cause you're allllll ass"! At 01:43 AM 4/2/01 -0700, Randy Remote wrote: >Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused >by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... > >wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > > > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > > >CUNTSPANKS > > > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > > > >KISS KISS KISS > > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > > >should stick to 3rd
> > >grade...
> > >
> > >>From: haylie clarke > > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> > >>
> > >>kitty :)
> > >>
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:26:51 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... One, who is Fiona Apple? 2. did these people not go to skool? They can't even spell bad words! Randy Remote wrote: > Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused > by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... > > wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > > > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > > >CUNTSPANKS > > > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > > > >KISS KISS KISS > > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > > >should stick to 3rd
> > >grade...
> > >
> > >>From: haylie clarke > > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> > >>
> > >>kitty :)
> > >>
- -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:27:42 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC > when was the last time any American here was attacked by a > Canadian -- Joni's maid? > so we have done a good job! > > (the Rev) Vince - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:36:16 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Liz's BYT Question Bob Muller responded: Now, Bob, you weren't supposed to write her whole paper for her!! Just because you have a PhD in Joni, no need to show off!! ; ) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:06:10 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: My CD Addictions Last week i descended down into the valley Intel made. Amelia just 28 months knows the sign on the big box and Sings "Target,toys ballons shoes".I make it over to their Music area and pick out Shawn Colvin's new CD but then I find Emmy Lou's Red Dirt Girl, After much thought I voted Shawn off my island Emmy lou is much closer to my generation. I have Listened to RDG now a handfull of times I still like the Energy of Spyboy. Friday I stopped by Music Mellennium with Amelia on Burnside Blvd in Portland,The Mitchell section is right out front "How convient" and bought WTRF. As soon as i sliped the CD in my coat pocket she ran off fast into the heart of the store. I found her in front of the L section with David Lahm staring at me, Saying "Brian if you don't buy this CD you won't find perfect bliss listening to me play FTR on my piano today." Hey David the Whole CD is Blissfully Fantastic. Brian - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:12:04 EDT From: Riveragelsinger@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #105 I am a newcomer-second-time-around. I was on the list for a short time in 2000, but with a very busy schedule, I dropped off the list, as my wife kept asking why I was still getting the digest if I wasn't even reading it. I'm still just as busy, and will probably drop off again and return another day, as I have to leave the country for work, and don't have time to check or even delete unread mail for several days at a time. I always answer work and family messages...but let JMDL go quite often. As to why JM kept the name Mitchell, the only insight I can offer dovetails what Hell (nice handle) wrote. She married in the mid-60's, was not a feminist, was an independent artist with a following of her own, the artistic people she admired and followed and who followed her career knew her as JM. Those who knew her family knew her actual names. Lastly, the name Joni Mitchell has broad assonance, and a percussive sound that goes well with the percussive sounds of English, rock 'n' roll and jazz. Only she knows why she kept the name...maybe she really liked the guy, and kept his name...just because...I know many divorcees who keep all their last names. As I reread the last paragraph, my juvenile mind is ready to giggle over her "broad assonance." I also sometimes wonder whether the title "urge for going" has new significance for JM and her fans, as we creep up in years...pass the Metamucil, please. Call me "anything-but-late-for-dinner" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:16:36 EDT From: LeslieMixon@aol.com Subject: Jonatha Brooke (NJC) Album of the Week Lindsay Moon asked me to post this, so here goes: (from People Magazine, 4-2-01) Steady Pull During her stint as half of the early '90s vocal group the Story, Jonatha Brooke developed a cult following with her jazz-tinged, rough-edged folk sound. A solo act since the duo broke up in 1994, Brooke was dumped by her record company in 1998 and began releasing muisc on her own Bad Dog label. And on her own terms. For her fourth disc Brooke maintains the breezy, matter-of-fact vocal stylings of her earlier work but takes things a step further with her deceptively simple, surprisingly poignant lyrics. On the melodic "Linger" she confesses to being of two romantic minds: "I am leaving cuz I love you/I am leaving cuz I don't/And I am hoping that you will follow/And praying that you won't." On the eerie "New Dress" she sings in mesmerizing harmony with former Crowded House frontman Neil Finn. Despite "Walking," which borders on preachiness, Pull is a grabber. Bottom Line: Steady on Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:32:13 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Liz's BYT Question << Now, Bob, you weren't supposed to write her whole paper for her!! >> But it's been so long since I wrote a paper, I wanted to make sure I could still do it! Besides, when someone asks about Joni, I just can't help it! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:42:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonatha Brooke (NJC) Album of the Week << "I am leaving cuz I love you/I am leaving cuz I don't/And I am hoping that you will follow/And praying that you won't." >> And of course People missed the truly brilliant segment of the lyric, which is line immediately following: "Let me go" By making the separation like that she expresses her ambiguity and gives the phrase a Joni-like duality. You can read it in two ways: And praying that you won't let me go, or And praying that you won't. Let me go! The part that People left out is what makes the song work, at least lyrically anyway. Musically, it has everything going for it and would still sound great even if she was singing made-up syllables! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:19:42 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: cute joke njc > << A little old couple walked slowly into McDonalds one cold winter > evening. They looked out of place amid the young families and young > couples eating there that night. Some of the customers looked admiringly > at > them. > > You could tell what The admirers were thinking. "Look, there is a > couple who has been through a lot together, probably for 60 years or more!" > > The little old man walked right up to the cash register, placed his > order with no hesitation and then paid for their meal. The couple took a > table near the back wall and started taking food off of the tray. There > was > one hamburger, one order of French fries and one drink. > > The little old man unwrapped the plain hamburger and carefully cut it in > half. He placed one half in front of his wife. Then he carefully > counted out the French fries, divided them in two piles and neatly placed > one pile in front of his wife. He took a sip of the drink, his wife took a > sip and then set the cup down between them. > > As the man began to eat his few bites of hamburger the crowd began to > get restless. Again you could tell what they were thinking. "That poor > old > couple. All they can afford is one meal for the two of them." > > As the man began to eat his French fries one young man stood and came > over to the old couples' table. He politely offered to buy another meal > for > the old couple to eat. > > The old man replied that they were just fine. They were used to sharing > everything.Then the crowd noticed that the little old lady hadn't eaten a > bite. > > She just sat there watching her husband eat and occasionally taking > turns sipping the drink. Again the young man came over and begged them to > let him buy them something to eat. > > This time the lady explained that no, they were used to sharing > everything together. > > As the little old man finished eating and was wiping his face neatly > with a napkin the young man could stand it no longer. > > Again he came over to their table and offered to buy some food. > After being politely refused again he finally asked a question of the > little old lady. > > "Ma'am, why aren't you eating. You said that you share everything. > What is it that you are waiting for?" She answered... > (keep scrolling) > > [This is great] > > > > > "The teeth". >> rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Church of Joni - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > Yesterday morning I heard the doorbell ring and it > was two women handing out > the standard religious literature ...>So next time, I > decided I really am > going to say that I'm a Joni Witness and go to the > Church of Joni and > hopefully I will freak them out enough so they won't > know what to make of me > and they will just leave. > > What if we walked door to door, handing people > copies of Hejira, telling > them how awful the music in the world is and that > they won't really be > enlightened till they listen to Joni Mitchell. It > would seem like a really > odd thing to do. I discovered Joni Mitchell on my > own without any > instructional materials, and developed my own > thoughts about her. Most > things are better discovered this way. > > Amen, brother Victor! Funny you should mention this - the thought has occurred to me as well that there could and possibly should be a Church of Joni Mitchell. Blasphemy, maybe, but it works for me. Isn't it incredible how everybody claims to know all about the *true* faith and they want to share it with you - whether you like it or not. A friend of mine used to claim she worshipped at the Church of Tim Horton - this is a chain of donut shops in Canada (named for the late hockey player, who was one of the original owners.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:13:59 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: For The Roses Im new to the list, and dont know the story here, but I really can't believe something like this, a tribute to Joni's music and impact on the lives of all of us, can lead to hurt feelings and withdrawl from the list... call me neive, but from an new person's perseptive, this seems rather unreal..what on earth happened? I just get a kick out of hearing about the latest joni news, gossip, favorites songs, etc., and then I get on with life... just a suggestion, I'm glad this list is here.. M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:52:17 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Willy the Shake is in New York, Mini Joni Fest? NJC i'd like to get down there for a drink, but i have tickets to merce cunningham dance company up at city center, very near where i work. please keep me posted. patrick np - tan dun - crouching tiger, hidden dragon (soundtrack) >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of >RoseMJoy@aol.com >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 1:38 PM >To: joni@smoe.org >Cc: fenny@pocketmail.com; alisone4@yahoo.com >Subject: Willy the Shake is in New York, Mini Joni Fest? NJC > > >Attention NYC JMDLers' and surrounding areas >I know this is sort of short notice, but Willy the Shake is in >town and I'd >thought it would be nice to welcome him back to NYC, so we've got >something >planned for Wed. evening 4/4 at Judy's Chelsea. Alison and I will be there >and maybe Jeff and Nikki too. So if anyone cares to join us, the more the >merrier. Alison and I were thinking of just hanging out in the >front by the >piano bar so we can talk and smoke! LOL I am going to TRY to be >there between >6-7PM. >David will be playing that evening in the Cabaret room . They do serve >dinners as long as you are seated by 7:00PM, I believe and there >is a cover >charge for that room. It would be a good idea to make reservations >in advance >if you would like to see the show and/or have dinner. Email either >Alison or >myself if you are interested. >The address for Judy's Chelsea is 169 Eighth Ave. Tel. Phone# >(212) 929-5410 >Schedule: >> Wed 4/04 8:30 pm - Judy Niemack in "Everybody's Boppin!" with >David Lahm, >> piano & Jeanfrancois Prins, guitar > >Cheers, >Rose in NJ >NP: The Hissing Demos >Thank you Catherine!!! > > > > > > >rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:09:19 -0700 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: More jazz takes D lahm NJC Opps I was wrong on the song David does solo on the piano its "Ladies of the Canyon" not "For the Roses" Also Thanks to C. Turley I received the Double CD of Joni @ the Greek Theatre and the Walden Woods Benefit Cd What a line up of Voices Paula, Shawn, Trisha, Sandra B, Sheryl, Natalie, Stevie, Bjork,and Joni NP Sometimes I'm Happy JM - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:11:34 -0700 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Church of Mitchell/Joni's Bar and Grill The castle in Detroit would be the perfect spot for the Church de Mitchelle with Reverend Vince giving Sermons and taking Confessions, Sing "Songs to Aging Chidren Come " in the Shower my son. But I really think a popular place to hang out would be Joni's Bar and Grill, The Menu Would have Catus tree Omelets,Both Sides Now Pancakes, Rainy night House Soup, Little Green Salad, You turn me On Burrito's, Twisted Hash Browns, Black Crow Au Vin, Sweet and Sour Bird,Good Bye Pork Pie, Chinese Cafe Dim Sum and we could have Sweet Suckers for the kids. Good night Dreamers NP Jimmy Smith The Sermon - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #159 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?