From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #148 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 27 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 148 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Definition of BIMBO NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Get Together NJC [Scott Price ] Re: For The Roses (njc), short ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Get Together NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Dinner with Joni (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Let these walls come tumbling down [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Dinner with Joni (NJC) ["Steve Polifka" ] joni's jazz [BarBearUh ] RE: Oscar Night Post Mortem (md) NJC [john low ] Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem (md) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Hello [dsk ] Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem [FWSCHNAUZERMOM@aol.com] Re: Bjooooork...ribbet.... NJC [MDESTE1@aol.com] Changing the Subject NJC ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Re: Get Together NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: leaving the list ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: please NJC [susan+rick ] Re: Enemy at the Gate NJC [susan+rick ] Re: Bjooooork...ribbet.... NJC [susan+rick ] Synchronicity~ Get Together (NJC) ["Nikki Johnson" ] Re: Partir, c'est mourir un peu ["hell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:10:47 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Definition of BIMBO NJC Breaking my promise -- what a liar I am. "Harper Lou wrote: > Jerry, > > How dare you try to tell me or anyone else the word BIMBO is sexist? You're > dead wrong, buddy. Hey, Jerry and I have an intense personal relationship in which we have plighted our troth and maybe someday if we will ever meet, we'll see what each other's plighted trotths look like. In the meantime I must not meet him in Florida as I have not yet forgiven that state. So Harper Lou, talk nicely to my sweetie! > used more often for men than it is for women.> This is true. > Remember, Italian guys aren't fast to insult women, no, they fast to come on to women, but never fast to insult women. Have you ever been smacked by an Italian woman? As someone with the names Lavieri, DiVito, Serpico, etc in my forebearers, let me tell you, you never insult an Italian woman. But men, pasta fazul, pisan, goombo. Hence the song addressed to a male, "bimbo, bimbo where you gon a go-i-o" which I have heard Americanized into jimbo, jimbo... > but they'll call each other names in a hurry. My old boss at the pizzeria I > worked when I was 16 used to call us guys bimbos if we did something wrong. > I never heard Tony call a woman that name, or any other name actually. > > It used to be a very common word in sports, particularly baseball. I also > remember a high school wrestling coach saying, "OK you bimbos, let's...." > > > The word's Italian, it's a shortened form of "Bambino" (baby). When > applied to people, it means "dummy," "childish one," or "buffoon." Note > that the word is BIMBO, not BIMBA. It's a masculine term. Now Harper Lou, my special friend Jerry is a Notaro and while I haven;t asked, I do hold out the possibility that he is a pisan. (That is good.) So you may be giving an Italian an Italian lesson. I think that we have now made much ado about nothing, or enough ado about something so that everyone can chill and reflect that if someone calls you a little frog in America you are a reptile but a little frog in French moves you got someone sweet on you so lets just chill out and move onto better things, such as, why didn't Russell Crowe comb his hair at the Oscars, and what is with the attitude? He sulked like Don Henly at the Grammies! Marcel ripped on k d lang for her outfit at the Joni TNT tribute; can't wait to hear him on Bjork's dead swan dress. has Sting sold out totally or what? Didn't you have the impression that Michael Douglas was really disappointed when he opened the envelope, just moments after Soderbergh won for Traffic, and say the word "Gladiator?' When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that is definately not amore. That's a mess. (the Rev) Vince, truly posting his last for the day > . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:17:39 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Get Together NJC At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: >>>the Rev wrote: >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods This song was written by Dino Valenti. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: For The Roses (njc), short Exactly. Lama Colin said, > I hope Kakki will be back. She was here when i first arrived almost 4 years ago. > She is part of this community. I look forward to seeing her post again and I am > sure she will. > Others handing out blame will not help the situation. > bw > colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:40:33 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem I was thinking Salvadore Dali..... Don Rowe asked, > And is it just me, or did Bob look REMARKABLY like > Vincent Price last night? Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:49:00 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Get Together NJC Scott Price wrote: > At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: > >>>the Rev wrote: > >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse > >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > > > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods > > This song was written by Dino Valenti. > > Scott Under his non de plum "Chet Powers" From the Youngbloods' first LP, 1965 or '66 Valenti was in Quicksilver Messenger Service but he's dead now. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:50:55 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dinner with Joni (NJC) << I would have to ask Bob Muller, Jerry Notaro, Jimmy Stewart and raffle off the last seat with one of Bob's Joni Covers CD's ... >> And it would be my honor and joy to join you, Steve! We'd probably break out in song eventually, so we'd have to let Jimmy lead off because God only knows what key he'd pick! :~) Bob NP: Croma, "Coming Home" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:57:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Let these walls come tumbling down << This group does not include Bob Mueller who had other things on his mind when he first logged on to the internet :-) >> Great post, Leslie...especially the brilliant quote from Blue Motel Room, which I had the privelige of discussing with SIQUOMB herself! She said it was dated, and I told her that that's what makes a song a STANDARD! You make me damn proud that EVENTUALLY I got around to typing "Joni Mitchell" in that search engine! :~D Love you, sweetie! Bob NP: Loggins & Messina, "Nobody But You" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:48:24 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: Dinner with Joni (NJC) Let's hope it's nobody's birthday that night.... LOL!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Dinner with Joni (NJC) > << I would have to ask Bob Muller, Jerry Notaro, Jimmy Stewart and raffle off > the last seat with one of Bob's Joni Covers CD's ... >> > > And it would be my honor and joy to join you, Steve! We'd probably break out > in song eventually, so we'd have to let Jimmy lead off because God only knows > what key he'd pick! :~) > > Bob > > NP: Croma, "Coming Home" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:11:28 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hello NJC << (Question: How do you guys quote previous messages in your own? Cut and paste?) >> Welcome, Bruce!! Even though you've entered the house during a bit of a family feud, hang in here, we'll be holding hands & singing Kumbaya or Circle Game in no time! :~) And yes, we appreciate when you cut & paste ONLY the part of a post or digest you wish to respond to. It makes your message clearer and easy to read, more people will respond to you and all will be great! Looking forward to hearing more from you... Bob NP: Loggins & Messina, "Vahevala" (Can't be upset with music this good in the background!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:26:33 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Get Together NJC Dino Valente had a hit w/this song in the early sixties. The Youngbloods album lists the songwriter as Chet Powers, copyrighted in 1963. I don't know who he is! Regards, Stephen in Vancouver Scott Price on 03/26/2001 05:17:39 PM Please respond to Scott Price To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Get Together NJC At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: >>>the Rev wrote: >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods This song was written by Dino Valenti. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:33:27 -0500 From: BarBearUh Subject: joni's jazz 1. S&L "black crow" live 2. 'coast to coast' live version of 'furry sings the blues' 3. blue motel room 4. dry cleaner from des moines 5. recent live version of "moon at the window" and chaka khan chaka khan chaka khan barbara np: chris whitley PS gotta agree with Paul I on lackluster "summertime" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:18:56 +1000 From: john low Subject: RE: Oscar Night Post Mortem (md) NJC Marcel wondered about Mr Dylan: >Third his speech was really amazing. he sounded >cogent, intelligent, and prepared, humble, >thankful and likeable. OK, what have they done to Bob. He's in Australia, Marcel!!! :-) John. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:43:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem (md) Slow down campers! Marcel was talking about her performance in "Erin Brockovich". Read it again. He said she did a great "impersonation" of a bimbo. Hey folks!! Let's not forget context, okay? Last night, she won an Oscar for _acting_. And Marcel used the word "impersonation". She won an Oscar for "impersonating" a woman who dresses in low cut blouses every single day. Since she won an Oscar, is it a stretch to say that she "did an absolutely great impersonation of a bimbo"? No, Marcel is being a smart alec here. He did not say, "Julia Roberts, what a tramp!" This is smart alec humor folks and I thought it was funny. The following line was a throwaway, not a condemnation. Let's read it together friends: Marcel said, Julia Roberts did an absolutely great impersonation of a bimbo. What an actress. Oh was that her actual personality? If that's the case then it means the rumors about her talking snifs out of whip cream cans in the supermarket that morning were true. Marcel did not call her a bimbo. And the New York Times chose absolutely the correct word if they chose "giddy." She was giddy. So what? She had a right to be excited. She just won the highest award given in her profession! Since when is calling someone "giddy", the same thing as misogyny? Context, context, context, Lama ps. Marcel, I know you don't need help fighting your battles but I had to weigh in on this one. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:36:27 -0500 From: slarty Subject: Re: Get Together NJC Interesting thing about this song is I find it very similar musically to Joni's Urge For Going. Randy Remote wrote: > Scott Price wrote: > > > At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: > > >>>the Rev wrote: > > >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse > > >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > > > > > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods > > > > This song was written by Dino Valenti. > > > > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:40:45 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Hello Bruce Kimerer wrote: > I have just discovered this site and its discussion area. Have read the > posts for the past couple days and now am seeing how the posting thing > works. (Will be curious to see if my message appears in the list of > posts I get tomorrow.) Welcome, Bruce, to your new Joni adventure! I remember, too, first joining a couple of years ago and wondering how it all worked and finding it so strange to try to talk to hundreds of people at the same time. A discussion list was a brand new experience for me and perhaps it is for you too. So kudos to you for jumping right in! > (Question: How do you guys quote previous messages in your own? Cut and > paste?) It depends on which type of list you've signed up for. If you're receiving individual messages, you can set up your mail preferences so that when you press Reply the message you're replying to is automatically quoted, and then you can delete the unneeded parts of the message and only leave the part you're responding to (people receiving digests would greatly appreciate that). To do that in Netscape, select Edit from the top toolbar and go from there. It's probably a similar process for Outlook. If you need more info, please let us know. If you're receiving messages in digest form, then I think you do need to cut and paste. I've never received messages in digest form, so other people may be able to give you some details about that if you still have questions. > I have been a JM fan since Ladies of the Canyon, though I tuned out > after Mingus, then got distracted and missed her work of the 80s, and > only returned to listening with Turbulent Indigo. That return sent me > back into the older material. LOTC is the first album I heard also, given to me in the early 70s by my first boyfriend. It captured me right away. He did too but Joni's the one that's still with me after all these years, and since then I've eagerly awaited each new album, always with the excitement of "I wonder what Joni's doing now". My enthusiasm flagged somewhat during the 80s, I'll admit, even though I continued to buy her cds, but it returned as soon as I heard Night Ride Home. Have you heard that one yet? > In looking at the poll results for albums and songs, I was sorta > surprised where Don Juan ended up on the list -- and how low Paprika > Plains was postioned. Which leads me to my question: Were the unsung > lyrics to Paprika Plains that were printed with the album ever intended > to be sung? And, if so, were they ever performed in concert? As far as I know she's never performed Paprika Plains, but my knowledge about it is limited so I may be wrong about that. There's an efficient search engine on the jmdl.com site that would find every mention of PP if you do a search, in which case you may be able to tell us the answers to the interesting questions you've asked. If you've already done that and not found your answers, maybe someone more knowledgeable about PP than I am will speak up. > (And what does that 'np' mean that people use to list a song at the end > of ther posts?) It means "now playing" and is one way we find out about new music and learn a little more about our fellow listers. Sometimes you'll see NPIMH, which means "now playing in my head". You haven't asked so perhaps you know this already, but a usual question asked by people who have just joined the list is "what is SIQUOMB?", which you may see in a phrase like "she's so siquomb, isn't she?" (and we all automatically nod our heads yes :-). It's an acronym from a mythology she wrote long ago, and stands for "she is queen undisputed of mind beauty". Hmmm, I think I've got that right. If not, someone will let me know. So, again, Welcome! There's a brief flurry of bickering on the list now, which happens once in a while, usually after a period of humor, kindness, generosity and much good will among list members, and almost always passes rather quickly. The good spirit will return soon I'm sure and your questions about Paprika Plains will probably help us get back on track. Enjoy! atb, Debra Shea P.S. One other thing, which again you may know but just in case you don't... Since there are people on the list who want to receive ONLY messages with Joni content, include NJC in the subject heading if your message has No Joni Content. You'll find that many things are discussed here, usually starting with Joni and always returning to her eventually. In between there are some interesting wanderings. You'll see. :-) NP: local tv news, in one ear and out the other ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:42:43 EST From: FWSCHNAUZERMOM@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem He definitely had a Vincent Price thing going on! Everybody I was with just looked at me like I was crazy when I said that. Glad he won. Definitely the best song and I was impressed with his acceptance speech since I can't generally can't understand a word he says. (Good movie, the Wonder Boys) F in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:50:02 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Bjooooork...ribbet.... NJC In a message dated 3/26/01 5:08:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, revrvl@pathwaynet.com writes: << Marcel ripped on k d lang for her outfit at the Joni TNT tribute; can't wait to hear him on Bjork's dead swan dress. >> It wasnt so much Bjorks "dead swan dress" that got me. First of all the song she got stuck with was awful but she livened it up by having someone put crickets in her panties in order to sing it properly. It was the image of that that got me.Oops sorry I may lose some more points for saying that. (THUNK) sound of board hitting myself in the head for penance. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:15:40 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Changing the Subject NJC i carry a vision floating in the golden chalice of everlasting love the sun hangs low on the liquid the wind only whispers my gift to you is knowing it your challenge will be giving it my life is full of tears in secret secret with pride showing to slowly from my lips the calm of his love to those who cause the white caps upon the waters and tragic storms brian symes miss u kakki - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:32:03 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Get Together NJC Scott Price wrote: > At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: > >>>the Rev wrote: > >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse > >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > > > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods > > This song was written by Dino Valenti. > > Scott Under his non de plum "Chet Powers" >From the Youngbloods' first LP, 1965 or '66 Valenti was in Quicksilver Messenger Service but he's dead now. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:35:55 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: leaving the list I hate to see Kakki go. I have been fortunate enough to meet her and have been a guest in her home. She is a gracious, intelligent and engaging human being & I am very fond of her. Kakki, if you read this, please stay in touch. I have learned many things from being on this list. Kakki is someone I have learned a great deal from. One lesson she has taught me (or reinforced) is never to make assumptions about people or generalizations about groups of people. So, Kakki, I make no assumptions about your decision to leave us. I feel I know you well enough and respect your intelligence & judgment enough to know that you have good, valid reasons for doing so. I hope you're just taking a break & will return. If not, again, please stay in touch. I have always said that my philosophy about people who seem to take some kind of perverse pleasure in being nasty and demeaning is to ignore them. Don't let them push your buttons. Deny them the attention they obviously want. But then I have never been the victim of many abusive private posts. One or two here & there, but never the kind of volume that would be considered annoying or alarming. I imagine it would be hard to completely ignore it if it were constant & of an abusive nature. Most of us come to this list expecting it to be a positive place to share our thoughts & feelings with kindred spirits. If we get to the point where we don't feel that the list is a positive place for doing that anymore, then why stay? I enjoy a good joke as much as the next person and if any of you were to see me in my own element, with my circle of close friends where I feel completely at ease you would see that my sense of humor has more than a bit of vinegar in it. For that reason, I *usually* refrain from making jokes on this list. Email communication is very tricky. Through the JMDL and the large volume of emailing I do at work, I feel I have learned a thing or two about it. It is *so easy* to misinterpret something in an email. As the Rev Vince pointed out so well, you can't email a facial expression or a vocal inflection. Sarcasm almost never comes off well in an email. There's always someone who will take you seriously or even if they don't, will not appreciate the humor. We are a diverse group. Different backgrounds, nationalities, cultures, religions, sexual preference - it can be very hard not to step on someone's toes if we are not very careful with how we communicate. I certainly don't want to censor anybody. But in view of the difficulty of communicating clearly in this medium, is it really asking too much that people try to refrain from demeaning & belittling remarks? Is that really too much to ask? That we treat each other with respect and leave the sniping & sarcasm out of it? Believe me, there have been times when I have read posts on the JMDL that have made me seethe and want to spit out expletives and all kinds of scathing comments. But what would that accomplish in the end? It would probably upset most of the good people on this list (and there are *so many* of you out there!) and cause a lot of unnecessary damage. I certainly don't mean to say that we can't have fun here. I can be as silly as the next person and a well-intentioned jibe here & there is not a bad thing. But unless you're absolutely certain that the jest will be received in the spirit you intended then I say reconsider. And if something makes you angry, don't shoot off a hot-headed reply. Do something else, wait a day or listen to some Joni. Then if you still feel compelled to reply, maybe you can do so with a cooler head. Usually your point comes across much more clearly and effectively. Ok, I'm done. Sorry if this sounds like a sermon, but I felt I had to say something if for no other reason than to let Kakki know I miss her & support her. Maybe I don't always *agree* with her, but I always respect her & look forward to reading anything that appears when I see her name in my inbox. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:37:00 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem > He definitely had a Vincent Price thing going on! Travis said he looked like a villain from a silent movie! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:54:37 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Partir, c'est mourir un peu Early morning in Holland ... sun rising over the sea. Seven digests still unread. I start with the first one, thinking "I hope there won't be too much bickering". Then: Kakki has decided to leave the list. First thought: this cannot be true, this cannot be true. More posts ... 'Kakki, please return', 'Let's take a deep breath and ...', 'Please be tolerant'. Kakki's decision brings out the eloquence in many. I think again: Kakki? The very person who knows that fine line between eloquence and loquaciousness, always opting for the first one. The person whose posts have always been the nucleus of the list for me personally. One of the persons for whom I crossed the Atlantic Ocean a few times (yes, Kakki, just to meet you (again)) ... the one with whom I sang "Here, There and Everywhere" to the sounds of crickets and chiggers gnawing at her legs late at night on Ashara's porch ... the woman with the intelligent eyes that light up with laughter and happiness every 3.4 seconds ... never without a Martini glass in her hand, but never drinking too much either (see, that's another thing you still need to teach me) ... the woman I admire for her guts and her energy ... who DOES look cool when she smokes (BTW, I will not respond to any comments on this remark ;-) ) ... Kakki, who sends me pictures and music that I treasure ... the woman who epitomizes the Irish spirit I love so much ... the one who & whom etc. etc. etc. Kakki, you simply canNOT leave this list. Listen to your Dutch Uncle: you simply canNOT leave this list ! And then Ashara: "move over Kakki...". Ashara ... please?! What IS going on here ??? Geez. I have been on this list almost from the very start. So have Kakki and Ashara. I lurk ('stand in the wings'), they don't. I share off-list. They share off-list AND on-list. Perhaps I have a right to speak for the long-term lurkers: The JMDL is so great because you and Ashara and Marcel and Bob and Paz and Hell and Patrick and Catherine (plural) and Jerry and Harper-Lou and Colin and Penny and Vince and Leslie and Mark and Jim and Steve and Mary-Grace and Wally and Kate and Mags and Brett and Alison and Jan and Lory and Marian and Ric and Robert and Paul and Heather and Victor and Garret and Lahm and Randy and Rose and Steve and Barbara and many many many others do not lurk. You share. You have the guts to share in a public forum. Believe me, it takes guts. Ask the average lurker (off-list). Kakki, "Lazarus" is the Dutch word for stone drunk. I'd rather you do the biblical bit. Have a Martini and rise. From the coast of Holland, John NP. Mathilde Santing: Here, There and Everywhere ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:19:47 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: please NJC On 3/26/01 3:54 PM, Vince Lavieri wrote > When confronted by statements that we thought were > mean-spirited, wrong-headed, mean, we would repeat the statement in our > mind and think, "They are assholes and I am not" and comforted by that, > with a little laugh in our hearts, we just took things for what they > were worth rather than be consumed by them. I wanna be just like Reverend Vince when I grow up. No, wait, I wanna BE Reverend Vince when I grow up. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:25:26 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: Enemy at the Gate NJC Marcel wrote: > It was interesting that the first film I have seen in awhile was Enemy at the > Gates. Of course Hollywood just couldnt prevent itself from taking a > perfectly good idea like two snipers in a warzone hunting each other down and > mutate it into a "love" story I read recently that this movie is based on an allegedly true set of facts, including the female sniper who is still alive and giving interviews in Russia. But the same article also mentioned that the Russians may have invented the whole one-on-one sniper battle to give courage to the people of Stalingrad. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:41:27 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: Bjooooork...ribbet.... NJC On 3/26/01 8:50 PM, MDESTE1@aol.com wrote > It wasnt so much Bjorks "dead swan dress" that got me. First of all the song > she got stuck with was awful She wrote the song herself, as she did the entire soundtrack to Dancer In The Dark. The songs are based on rhythms and sounds occurring in scenes from the movie. In the Oscar-nominated song you can hear the rhythm of the train that she is riding during this sequence. >but she livened it up by having someone put > crickets in her panties in order to sing it properly. I had to laugh at this. Bjork is a very strange performer and usually elicits either enthralled attention from those who love her (I don't know if there are many people who just *like* Bjork) or quizzically-raised eyebrows (or worse) from those who don't love her. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:49:37 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: Synchronicity~ Get Together (NJC) I just had to comment on the synchronicity of this song being discussed and one of the subject lines in my mailbox today. First off I received my Jonifest CD's from the CD burnin king Bob Muller...Thanks so much Bob:-) I love them...the music is wonderful and brings back so many incredible memories. One of which was the opening of the sets on Saturday. Anne Sandstrom (HI ANNE!) opened the on stage part of fest with the song in question...Get Together. As I listened to this in the car and heard Anne's emotional opening and playing, I couldn't help reflecting on the message and how life is too short not to Get Together. Call it sleep deprivation, call it idealism, call me commenting on something I said I wasn't gonna comment on...whatever the case I just found it weird how it call got together like that today... Love Nikki "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Randy > Remote > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:32 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Get Together NJC > > > Scott Price wrote: > > > At 07:53 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Stephen Epstein wrote: > > >>>the Rev wrote: > > >>>"Get Together" the Youngbloods song, written by Jesse > > >>>Collin Young or something like that; will someone correct me?" > > > > > >Get Together, from the 1969 album Ride the Wind by the Youngbloods > > > > This song was written by Dino Valenti. > > > > Scott > > Under his non de plum "Chet Powers" > >From the Youngbloods' first LP, 1965 or '66 > Valenti was in Quicksilver Messenger Service but he's dead now. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:56:08 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Partir, c'est mourir un peu John wrote: > Early morning in Holland ... sun rising over the sea. Your whole post was beautifully written, John - much better than I ever could. Thank you. And then I also read: >Kakki's decision brings out the eloquence in many This to me is the greatest irony of all. We all bitch and snipe at each other for a while, then someone actually reacts in a tangible way. Why does it take this kind of extreme reaction to make everyone pull their heads in! I liked this list much better when Kakki was a part of it - I also hope that her decision is not final, but if it is, Kakki, I hope you stay in touch. And maybe Joni was actually writing about this discussion list when she wrote: This is really something People will be envious But our roles aren't clear So we musn't rush Still, we're burning brightly Clinging like fire to fuel I'm grinning like a fool Stay in touch We should stay in touch Oh! Stay in touch In touch Part of this is permanent Part of this is passing So we must be loyal and wary Not to give away too much Til we build a firm foundation And empty out old habits Old habits Stay in touch We should stay in touch Oh! Stay in touch In touch During times like these The wise or influential They can bear the imperfections They can keep the honey No doubt about it No doubt that's essential No doubt that's always been a tricky one for me So, we should just surrender Let fate and duty shape us Let light hearts make us Let the worries hush In the middle of this continent In the middle of our time on Earth We receive one another Stay in touch We should stay in touch Oh! Stay in touch In touch Thank you, Joni. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #148 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?