From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #145 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, March 26 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 145 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- List mail NJC [catman ] How sad. [Richard Rice ] Re: For The Roses [dsk ] RE: For The Roses ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #98 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: One Tin Soldier ["Steve Polifka" ] spud menace NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #98 njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] lesson in survival ["shane mattison" ] *I love everybody... NJC, NJC [Artheobeat@aol.com] re: Good News [pyramus@lineone.net] Re: Joni and Los Angeles Magazine ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Tribute album [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Hugs [Heather ] Re: spud menace NJC ["Lori R. Fye" ] turn off ["Jack Neilson" ] Re: Lesson in Survival [mags ] Re: Lesson in Survival [mags ] RE: For The Roses (njc) ["Brett Code" ] Re: How sad. [mags ] Re: New Music Alert NJC [Jason Maloney ] RE: Lesson in Survival ["Nikki Johnson" ] NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: How sad. ["hell" ] Re: How sad. [Catherine Udall Turley ] Kakki [M.Russell@iaea.org] Re: Tribute album ["Brenda J. Walker" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:52:36 +0100 From: catman Subject: List mail NJC I don't seem to be getting all the mail. I have seen replies to mail I haven't seen. Maybe I am not paying attention, but I also haven't noticeed a fight going on. I did see a post from one erpson making a rather aver the top rude remark to another and a post from someone else defedning the right to be rude. That was all I saw. The decision to leave or stay on the list is purely a personal one and cannot be blamed on anyone else. We all have personal responsibilty with regard to how we react to any given post. I have just seen a post, the smae points having been made before, about people either leaving or lurking due to others behaviour and putting the blame on those writers. This is bull and passive agression at it's best! We are all humans and as such will have differing points of view. If you choose to display an unpopular opinion or belief system, then you ought at least to have the courage to stick by them and whine that people disagree with you and make you feel uncomfortable. Maybe you should be feeling uncomfortable and just maybe you need to re evaluate your beliefs instead of piuosly feeling a martyr to them. ( i should add here that this post has nothing to do with Kakki. My experience of Kakki has always been positive.) I left the list for a month or so almost a year ago during the Colin is A Fascist thread. Not because i was hurt but because whilst at first I was amused as it was so absurd, I just knew I would lose my cool eventually. So i opted out till it blew over. It did. I haven't seent he like of those attacks before or since. I also haven't seen anyone defending it or excusing it apart from one person who whines about not being able to feel free yet she excused this attack. This community is a very good one. Friendships have blossomed, generally the list traffic is interesting, amusing, thought provoking, eye openoing and sometimes rough sailing. For quite a while the rough sailing has not been anywhere near as bad as it has been in the past. We used to have some real humdingers! Soemtimes, whatever is going on in our personal lives can make us sensitive to what is going on on the list, and our reactions are different to what they might otherwise be if our life was different and that particular time. ui know if I am feeling down or stressed, I am more likely to react negatively to a post. However, that is down to me not the poster unless of course the poster has been downright offensive. It has been suggested that people of particular relgious persuasions or politcal beliefs don't feel safe here. OI can't speak for the political beluiefs as my only beef with differing political beliefs is when the opposer is rude. As for religious beliefs that is a whole different ballgame. Maybe the people who beef that reactions to their fundamentalist views upset them, should consider how their views impinge on others. It is a two way street. To me fundametalism has nothing to do with religion but to do with politics and intolerance. The views of fundamentalists are offenisve to many just as the KK K are offensive to others or racsim etc.I don't think it is realistic to expect to hold such views and for people to just smile sweetly. We all have responsibilty for our views. If those views make us unpopular, that is the price we pay for our thinking. Racism is not tolerated on this list. Homophobia is yet many of homosexuals are still here. The list is what we make it. If we choose to partcipate in it, we also choose to put oursleves in the position of possibly having our treasured ideas trashed or our feelings hurt. This can happen even if the intetnion was not there. It is all part of life. Either we live life and let our light shine or we hide from it and bleet about how awful people are. yes people can be dreadful, but they can also be wonderful. Conecentrate on that, on the wonderfullness. As I have said countless times, abusive posts are not acceptable or welcome but we cannot controil the way another chooses to express themselves. We can control how we react to them. We can decide not to let thier darkeness overwhlem us and continue to enjoy this wonderful place, or we can decide to let them dictate our lives. For that is what we are doing when we let others decide our moods or reactions. We are giving away our power. We are deciding that another person has the power to make us happy or sad, that another person runs our lives. We need not do that. We have the power of choice. We choose our beliefs and our thoughts thus we choose how e exoerience life. If our life is not as we would wish we need to change our beliefs about it. bw colin - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:11:56 -0600 From: Richard Rice Subject: How sad. I am saddened to hear that Kakki has decided to quit the list. Besides being an invaluable contributor to the list, she is a remarkable person. One of many remarkable persons who make this place very, very special. We are diminished by her absence. Hopefully, her passion for Joni, Paz, Muller, et.al will get the best of her. As to the merits of why she left, I agree with you Harper Lou that it was her choice to leave us, we did not leave her. But I also feel she is well within her rights to do so. It may not seem like a lot, but reading petty bickering can be a negative force in one's life, even if it's just other people bickering. Sometimes enough is enough and silence, clear thoughts and positive vibes matter most, or at least more. There's a lot in this world I try to say to myself, "You know, I don't have time for this." It can feel very life affirming to do that. Kakki felt it was worth it. I also agree with much of Scott's comments. Joni Mitchell has enriched our lives. This community has as well. People I haven't even met have a special place in my heart. And those I have met bring me nothing but smiles in remembering. There are days I feel I dreamed my Saskatoon trip, the jmdl, Bob, the whole gang. To be honest Paul, I too have found some comments of yours to lean toward the negative a bit too often. And unlike Scott or Kakki, I also feel people have the right to call you on it. I respect your right to say them because I don't believe censorship is the answer. I just wish you hadn't gone down that path. It's sort of like the fellow who jumps out of his car in the heated moment of road rage: Once you start down a path you have no control over, you never know WHAT consequences may unfold. Most of them not of one's own doing, other than the fact that if one did NOT get out of the car, none of the events would happen. -In a sense, you risk the same game in speaking your mind in such negative ways. I'm sure your intentions weren't to have Kakki leave the list. And you have every right not to feel responsible for her doing so. It was her choice, not yours. Still, had you spared us all that one remark that night, none of this following thread would have happened. Think about that the next time the urge comes over you. Not that everything you or I write has to be squeaky clean and happy, but... Freedom of speech does not make all speech valuable. It would be more heartfelt, good and positive if we were all to show more respect and concern for the feelings of others and resist the urge for being negative. John Calimee. I'm sure Kakki's departure will bring forth a well spring of best regards. Perhaps Scott you can show her some of them. It may help her decide to return some day. I hope so. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 07:42:08 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: For The Roses Scott Price wrote: > It starts with a web search. > > A martini glass > will be raised, the ice cold elixir savored, with one simple thought: baby, > this one's for you. Good lord, man, I thought someone had died! Phew, now that I realize that's not the case... I'm very sorry to hear about Kakki's decision to leave. Her intelligence and generosity have been obvious, both on and off the list, and she'll be missed, a lot. And I hope she returns very soon. It's such a drastic action to take that it makes me there must be something or many things going on behind the scenes that us listers don't know about. I find it hard to believe that the recent exchanges would, by themselves, cause anyone to leave after years of being involved. It bothers me that the list is being blamed for Kakki's decision, and if anyone wants to think back over the posts of the past week or so, that perhaps certain people on the list are considered responsible for her decision. I can't go for that one, Scott, especially since Kakki herself has occasionally been tart-tongued for no obvious reason. Call it her Irish spirit, which everyone on this list has, yes? Flashes of anger have been spit out onto the list by almost everyone at one time or another. Anyway, whatever it is that's going on with Kakki, I wish her well. I find it hard to believe that she would have major difficulties with jmdlers, but, if so, I hope it can get sorted out somehow. I agree with your plea, Scott, that we all consider carefully what we write, and for the most part I think people on the list do. There's also the truth, though, that people are as they are, and no amount of suggesting they change their way of communicating will have much effect, so... ignore? delete? filter it out? reassure someone you think may have been offended? Some tactic other than demanding they (whoever they are) do things differently would be useful in a diverse group of people such as this. Just a few thoughts, FWIW... All the best to you, my Joni-bros and sisters, (and that includes you, Kakki, whether you're on the list or not) Debra Shea NPIMH: Richard Thompson, 1952 Vincent Black Lightening ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:24:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: For The Roses kakki dearest, i am so sad to hear that you have decided to leave the list. i respect your decision but i can't help feeling extremely sorry that i won't be enjoying your intelligence and humor anymore. your absence will be felt, i can assure you. couldn't you possibly reconsider your decision? i am sure that our community is basically a wonderful one and that we can always find a way to re-establish the lost balance if we work it out together. i want you to know that whatever your decision i pray that you'll be happy and that you'll always have joni mitchell in your world. jump from the boulders like the mama lion you are! love, wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:52:23 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #98 In a message dated 3/25/01 3:16:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ >> Hey a soap! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:20:37 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: One Tin Soldier > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:34:06 -0500 > From: "Louis Lynch" > Subject: Re: one tin soldier rides away > > Nuriel, > > One of my favorite songs, recorded by a one-hit band called "Coven." It was > written by Dennis Lambert and Brian Potter. I have the original sheet music > from when it was a hit on the radio. > Hi all, Just an interesting note on that song. It was released with little or no success, and the record company and /or band rereleased it a year and a half later to great success and air play. The same thing happened (?) with Hall & Oates 'She's Gone." It was released, no success, so it was re-released a year or so later and became quite popular. You don't see that kind of thing happening these days! I wonder what other songsn we know and love today share that same history... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:31:13 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: spud menace NJC careful lori!!!!! you may end up being recruited for the potato salad crew! [which will make me very happy because i can never get enough 'tato salad myself!!!] wallyK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. lori confessed: Yep, peeling potatoes and thinking I'll volunteer to peel 'em at Ashara's come September ... I like it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:32:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #98 njc i don't get it... wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de StDoherty@aol.com Enviado el: Domingo, 25 de Marzo de 2001 12:52 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #98 In a message dated 3/25/01 3:16:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ >> Hey a soap! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:36:36 -0800 From: Sue Glumac Subject: Tribute album Does anyone have any information on when the tribute album will be released? I thought it was slated for early this year. Sue ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:24:06 -0700 From: "shane mattison" Subject: lesson in survival thanx MG, you asked...i remember playing joni circa 1979, while i was on the road playing in small alberta towns...singles lounge music...you plugged into a sleazy shag carpeted lounge and a sleazy motel room...and you were all alone somehow...i found locals in small town weren't very approachable...they cam into drink and that was it...and quite intent on being distant so the 'city slicker' didn't feel above them...23 years old...would return home to practice...there was really only the joni albums that spoke of more warmth and hope...until i met ex-wife...who was in age, looks, and background so similar to joni....her father also a air-base commander wwII in moose jaw, sask...what journeys we weave...often the album most going at the time, lingering on prairie highways was HOSL.thanx for the shared perception of lesson in survival....shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:52:26 EST From: Artheobeat@aol.com Subject: *I love everybody... NJC, NJC Hi list - OK! I'm staying on this damned list! And I'm gonna try one more time to introduce myself, with a bit more detail than the first time, in the hope that 'who I aspire to be' as a human comes through a little better. I am a self-published poet and a recorded musician. My sporadic touring days were from '64 through '82. I still write (my soul release). Haven't played guitar since I severely damaged my hand in a motorcycle accident years ago (my great regret). Seldom sing publicly anymore - though constantly privately (my personal sanity maintenance). Graduated college in '69. Now live in Eugene, OR. (No, I'm not a retired 'Prankster') I have an eclectic taste in music, literature, and art. I am an Independent politically - I am an agnostic - I smoke Arturo Fuente 'Hemingway Classics" cigars - I love and play golf (although my love is far greater than my ability) - I'm an avid fisherman (ultralight spin tackle) - I am a bald, freckled caucasian married to a beautiful black woman, Danine, 16 years my junior - her brother Kalil is a gay man, who lives with his partner Antoni and they share our home - I have been diagnosed with Adult ADD - I suffer from bouts of depression - I take Welbutrin to balance the AADD and the depression - I am Type 2 diabetic (handle with diet and exercise so no 'meds' here) - I am adopted and have no idea who my birth parents are (and don't care) - I am outspoken - I am more than capable of making horrible attempts at humor that will rile even the most tolerant - I am never above apology - I do not need another's acceptance to feel validated - I welcome the sincere friendship of others - AND - I've admired Joni since the release of her 'Songs to a Seagull'. Still do and always will! Now, that should be more than enough info for each of you to be able to size me up, judge me - then decide if you want to be my friend. While you are doing so, let's all turn to our 1994 Lyle Lovett songbooks, page 18, and let's all sing along: I love everybody, Especially you, I love everybody, Especially you, So if you feel lonesome, Remember it's true. I love everybody, Especially you! TIA, Artheo NP - with your emotions ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:17:32 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: re: Good News Jim wrote: ....well a lot of good things really!! Thanks for the good advice. I have 'Painting with Words' but not the 'Shadows' video. I also have 'Looking for Love' thanks to Bob Muller and a couple of Joni videos courtesy of Ashara. Any idea who I should contact about the 'Hissing demos'? I live in England. pyramus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:22:09 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni and Los Angeles Magazine > I am supposing that, in this fantasy, Joni held court at the Brown Derby > separate and apart from Groucho. I can't really see Joni at the Brown Derby > - it was like a smokey, ancient relic from the golden days of Hollywood - the > last one (it was a chain) closed in the early 1980s. I certainly can't > fathom Joni with Groucho. I think Joni would get a kick out of Groucho. Maybe she'd take up cigar smoking and since you don't inhale cigars, that would be some improvement, healthwise. As for the other four guests, one would be Grace Slick because she has such an original mind & wit & I've always wanted to meet her. I would love to see her & Joni interact. Jon Hendricks seemed like a very personable fellow when I met him briefly at Jazz Alley & I'm sure he & Joni would have a lot to talk about. Being somewhat of a movie buff it would be fun to have someone like Robert Altman there. He would have a lot of interesting stories to tell. And as a fourth, I'll say Katharine Hepburn because she's my favorite living movie star and she always has something interesting to say (or at least she always says it in an interesting way - stone cold sober I find her absolutely fascinating!) Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:26:00 -0700 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Re: WELCOME!! dear ashara, thankyou so much for your thoughtful welcome...you obviously do so much for people...it is a pleasure to find caring people of like mind and creativity in such a sometimes fractured world...i would describe this as a grace you display...i would also estimate and value the courage it takes to show such commitment it takes to host a jonifest...i would like to come...i'm thinking about it...also about the expense of coming 3000 miles away! when i have some other journeys to take this year...i have a great friend at u.mass amherst on the faculty, henry geddes, a fine musician, raised in peru, a lot of latin talent...hope you visit my 'alberta' site at, http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactussongmain.html joni's a real influence, but not imitation....identification though is valuable...and i see this in you and many of the jmdl members...do you play yourself?...what's your homepage?...are there members in the west i can have coffee with this year...i'll be driving through the western states...way to go ashara..."applause, applause - life is our cause"... ----- Original Message ----- From: AsharaJM@aol.com To: cactussong@home.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: WELCOME!! Shane, Avery warm welcome to this crazy, prolific group of Joni lovers! I hope you enjoy your time here. Don't worry...if we go off on a tangent, it always come back to Joni eventually. I'm looking forward to your continued posts. :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:35:34 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute album << Does anyone have any information on when the tribute album will be released? I thought it was slated for early this year. >> Sue, Reprise doesn't seem interested enough in the project to answer e-mail about it. I saw on the Spin Magazine website that it has a date of September, but that didn't look to me to be recent or valid information. My own take on it is to assume that Reprise has lost all interest in the project, deemed it commercially non-viable, and is content to let it rot on the shelves. That way, if it never comes out, it's as I expect. And if they DO release it, it'll be a pleasant surprise! Bob Who bets that nothing on that record will sound as good as: NP: Bonnie Raitt, "That Song About the Midway" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:21:29 -0500 From: Heather Subject: RE: Hugs I have no musical talent either, Brett....therefore I will be up for a yoga lesson! Heather At 11:04 PM 3/23/01 -0700, Brett Code wrote: >I have been totally afraid to turn up at a jonifest, 'cause I have little >music al talent. It occurs to me on this discussion that I may be useful. >By September, I'll have my full yoga teacher accreditation. Anyone think >there'll be time for a little yoga out there? > >Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:56:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: spud menace NJC wally k teased: > careful lori!!!!! you may end up being recruited > for the potato salad crew! [which will make me > very happy because i can never get enough 'tato > salad myself!!!] Moi, aussi! And to be honest, I've like peeling potatoes since I was a gurl scout ... I wonder what's up with that??? Lori, home after a long day, near DC NP: Jonatha Brooke, "Steady Pull" P.S. I BOUGHT TIX FOR JB'S CONCERT AT BIRCHMERE MUSIC HALL, ALEXANDRIA, VA, ON 5/8! Woohoo! Anyone else going??? ~ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:04:28 -0800 From: "Jack Neilson" Subject: turn off But if we turn off our computers, we'll have to email by candlelight........ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:40:34 -0600 From: mags Subject: Re: Lesson in Survival cassy wrote: < that in the last couple of years I have suffered from two strokes.>> Dearest Cassy, Your post brought both Brian and I to tears. I am sitting here crying as I write. Please let us hold you close while we share some of how we feel. Cassy, I knew about your strokes and some of the consequent challenges you have faced because you so graciously shared this intimate and personal story with me when I was completely beside myself with angst/worry/pain/fear while I witnessed my beloved Brian go through his bypass surgery recently. (almost 8 weeks now). Your courage shines beautifully throughout each and every word you so generously share with us here in the light of day. I admire you so very much. I continue to learn the lessons of survival myself, and when I see posts like yours...well.. it was in no way boring...it was tender, touching and meaningful. Thank you again for helping me through those heavy days while Brian was lying in that bed healing from his surgery and beyond. Court and Spark is one my very favourite albums. I feel it is a work of art, lyrically and musically. I discovered this album at a very low time in my life. The songs Down to You and Trouble Child are very near and dear to my heart especially. In fact, both Court and Spark and Blue were instrumental in moving me through the days before, during and after the relinquishment of my son to adoption. I still dont know how I got through that whole time, and I know that Joni's words were instrumental to my survival. And sometimes, it is still hard. I want to say so much to you Cassy, I just cant find the words as I keep welling up with tears. I am reminded of a line from that most wonderful film, American Beauty, where Ricky says..sometimes there is so much beauty in the world, I just can't take it. Your story is filled with exquisit beauty beyond words. sending you love and tender hugs, and lighting a candle for those in need. Mags and Brian > - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:56:06 -0600 From: mags Subject: Re: Lesson in Survival Merk54@aol.com wrote: > > > > > < need. I know I couldn't have made it without the loving support of my wife > Betty. Similarly, over the past month or so, I have had numerous > communications with Brian and Mags, so I know how important Mags was in > Brian's recovery. To all the Thoms and Bettys and Mags of the world - I > salute you! During the recovery process, it is often difficult to be the > loving partner that we should be - we're often too preoccupied with our own > situation, our own pain, our own pity, to realize how difficult this > situation is for you as well. Bless you for looking past these > indiscretions, and supporting us any way.>> Dear Jack, Oh boy, what a night. Another post that made me cry. Thank you so much for your kind words which come straight from that generous heart of yours. We feel so privileged to be a part of your circle of support Jack. You have eased the fear and pain for me remarkably by providing insight into the healing process of bypass surgery. For me, the journey Brian and I have taken with you through our letters since your surgery has been most meaningful. I have learned so much from you. You have helped me to really understand Brian's process even better. Thank you for your support and kindness despite the fact that you were facing your very own healing journey. What a blessing it is to be on this list. lots of love, always, Mags and Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:55:15 -0700 From: "Brett Code" Subject: RE: For The Roses (njc) The list without Kakki will not be the same place. This, to me, is an event of sadness. There has only ever been one person I have always agreed with, and it was her. I hope she comes back. I hope those at the middle of this feel some remorse for the loss caused to the rest of us. In the mean time, I'll be listening to FTR and putting her image in the light. Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:21:51 -0600 From: mags Subject: Re: How sad. Richard Rice wrote: > < being an invaluable contributor to the list, she is a remarkable person. > One of many remarkable persons who make this place very, very special. > We are diminished by her absence.>> feeling a bit speechless on this one... there has been just so much sad news on my doorstep lately, I dont know what to say. I know I do need to say something...oh Kakki, know I will miss you, one of our Ladies of the Canyon, take good care of yourself and know that the door is always open. Both Brian and I hope you will come back. You have our support and love. Always.... Mags and Bri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:28:57 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: New Music Alert NJC Hi all, I've been listening to a lot of fresh acts so far this year, so I'll take Bob's lead and thrown in a few names you may (or may not) have heard about... Turin Brakes - The Optimist Kings Of Convenience - Quiet Is The New Loud These are both on the Source label imprint and showcase thoughtful, wonderfully melodic, acoustic indie-guitar pop. Emiliana Torrini - Love In The Time Of Science Icelandic, and vocally reminiscent of Bjork..sometimes disconcertingly so. No matter, there are a whole stack of beautiful tracks on offer...with some utterly gorgeous tunes. Starsailor - Fever (EP), traces of The Waterboys and Jeff Buckley here. Nothing new exactly, but there's an intangible magic about these 3 songs. Other better-known current favourites include: Dido - No Angel, seldom off my CD player since last September. Shivaree - I Oughtta Give You A Shot In The Head For Making Me Live In This Dump, a brilliant title and a varied, slightly unsual collection of songs that veer from modern country to trip-hop. Jonatha Brooke - Steady Pull, nuff said of course. Had to buy it from her own site, but that also meant I received a personally-signed copy, so I'm not complaining! David Gray - Lost Songs 95-98, thanks to Jamie Zoob for the heads-up on this one. I love it even more than White Ladder. Simply stunning, and emotionally powerful music. Next up for me is Eva Cassidy's Songbird. I already own the Fields Of Gold single, and have to wholeheartedly agree with everything that's been said about her truly astonishing voice. Jason. http://www.the-slipstream.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:58:46 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: Lesson in Survival Jack wrote: > the opening line of the album that eventually rang the loudest > and the truest > - No regrets, Coyote. What power these three little words have > over me. Thank you Jack and Cassy for sharing your stories with us...they were truly inspiring and beautiful. I had to take a moment cause I was just reflecting on Hijera, one of my favs(then again which one isn't at some point...lol) but what you said about No Regrets Coyote got me started thinking...cause I often repeat that line to myself. What a truly fitting way to start a journey...no regrets...I always try to follow that. Then for me the coming full circle at the end of the album with Refuge Of The Roads. This is a song I really relate to on a personal level, I am always traveling somewhere... Even though this song ends the album, it is like the end of one journey and yet also a continuation. Seems just so familiar to me... Love Nikki (not sure exactly where she is going with this ut felt the need to post it...lol) np: Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You~ Stevie Nicks 12-29-99 "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel > -----Original Message----- > the opening line of the album that eventually rang the loudest > and the truest > - No regrets, Coyote. What power these three little words have > over me. And > what a beautiful idea - regardless of where life takes us, > through successes > and failures, ups and downs, have no regrets. Welcome life with > open arms. > Savor the good times, and learn from the bad times. > > No regrets, Coyote. > > Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:00:52 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem The 3 best things to happen in my gritty, cold weekend: 3. Julia Roberts accepting her Oscar. The adrenaline rush was obvious but her grace showed her to be a warm and generous queen of the moment. 2. Stephen Soderberg's acceptance speech wherein he thanked everyone who does something creative. He repeated a line that has a lot of meaning for me: "Without art, life would be unbearable." (Fredrich Neitzche?) 1. Hibbing Minnesota's own Bobby Dylan. As expected Bobby performed a song via satellite hook up from Australia. The surprise was that his acceptance speech was both detailed and lucid. Go Bob! All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:24:36 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Oscar Night Post Mortem In a message dated 3/26/01 12:12:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@home.com writes: << The 3 best things to happen in my gritty, cold weekend: >> I'd also have to add Bjork's outfit that looked like something Paz is wearing in his JMDL member profile :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:19 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: How sad. Mags wrote: > feeling a bit speechless on this one... there has been just so much sad news > on my doorstep lately, I dont know what to say. I know I do need to say > something...oh Kakki, know I will miss you, one of our Ladies of the > Canyon, take good care of yourself and know that the door is always open. > Both Brian and I hope you will come back. You have our support and love. > Always.... I'm feeling a bit lost for words myself, so I'll simply add a big, heart-felt "me too." Helen ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:27:54 +0000 From: Catherine Udall Turley Subject: Re: How sad. Quite awhile ago (a couple years, maybe) JulieZWebb, who hosted one of the first in-person Joni fests, posted a long insightful account of the psychological logistics of hosting a list get-together. How there were egos to be negotiated and list squabbles to remember and sort out, people to keep separated, etc. At the time I read that post, I was fairly new to the list and thought it sounded overly complicated and pessimistic. Now that I've hung around long enough, I think she was right on the money. The list can be a fantastic place to be, and it can also be quite complicated and perilous. And thats not a problem unique to this list-- it is part of the cyber beast. Or will be until everyone considers the responsibly attached to free speech. Its not an excuse for thoughtlessness or a lack of restraint. Yeah, you can delete and ignore, but wading through all the negative to delete and ignore takes its toll, too. At least that's my experience. I don't know the particulars of what's up with Kakki, and I agree that it was her personal decision to leave, but when someone who has been so generous both with the larger community and with dozens of individual listers, someone who, IMO, has been as fair and accepting and balanced as anybody else on the list--when somebody like her just can't take it anymore, then I'd say its not her problem alone. I'm profoundly sorry she has gone. Feels like someone leeched the light out of the room. Catherine T. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:44:45 +0200 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Kakki I'm really sorry to hear that Kakki has decided to leave the list. I have especially enjoyed her accounts of meeting Joni and other famous people, as well as her thoughtful commentary on various subjects. She has contributed so much over the years and her leaving is a great loss to the JMDL community. Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:47:53 -0800 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Tribute album I have a couple of friends at WB; I'll email them and see if it's on the schedule. Brenda n.p. - Dianne Reeves - Obsession SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > << Does anyone have any information on when the tribute album will be > released? I thought it was slated for early this year. >> > > Sue, Reprise doesn't seem interested enough in the project to answer e-mail > about it. I saw on the Spin Magazine website that it has a date of September, > but that didn't look to me to be recent or valid information. > > My own take on it is to assume that Reprise has lost all interest in the > project, deemed it commercially non-viable, and is content to let it rot on > the shelves. That way, if it never comes out, it's as I expect. And if they > DO release it, it'll be a pleasant surprise! > > Bob > > Who bets that nothing on that record will sound as good as: > > NP: Bonnie Raitt, "That Song About the Midway" ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #145 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?