From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #111 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 8 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 111 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #109 ["Sally A. Bowers" ] Joni in BC [Steve Dulson ] both of chat rooms ["Vadim Litvin" ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni in BC ["Kakki" ] yay!!!! (NJC) [Anne Sandstrom ] [none] ["Dave and Beth Fairall" ] Tom Scott et al [Steve Dulson ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: The Boys in the Band [philipf@tinet.ie] RE: "Official Business" ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: *Joni chat room?-SJC [RK1THXguy@aol.com] jackfish lake njc [evian ] Mike & Linda [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: [JoniMitchellfans] the gallery ["P. Henry Boland" ] Re: the gallery - corrected msg [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Subject: Re: Last Songs NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ICQ Download -- Beware! ["Louis Lynch" ] RE: ICQ Download -- Beware! (NJC) ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: RIAA top 400 songs [IVPAUL42@aol.com] chat njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] New Jaco website ["Kakki" ] Re: ICQ Download -- Beware! (NJC) ["Louis Lynch" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:46:01 -0500 From: "Sally A. Bowers" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #109 I have been a member of this listserve for sometime now, but never post, because I was accsessing my AOL from another computer, and it would not let me post. That's all fixed now. I am the BIG LINDA RONSTADT FAN, if any of you remember me. I have been going nuts with Joni lately though. This week I bought Miles Of Esles and Hjira and another copy of Turbulant Indigo, my second. I had a limited release of that one, in the paper jewl box, but someone lifted that out of my apt. during a party. I guess I had another Joni freak in my apt. and didn't even know it...some friend! I am really disecting "Turn Me On, I'm A Radio", is that the correct title? Sorry if it's not. I have just came out of a long term relationship, and that song really applies at this time. Can't wait to get over it, who said LOVE was fun? They lied...again!!! Mike In Boston JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 109 > > > > The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be > found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, > a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. > > The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains > interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > chatroom#2 [RoseMJoy@aol.com] > Re: chatroom#2 [GaelGreen@aol.com] > Re: chatroom#2 [Vince Lavieri ] > James Tayor Book (NJC) ["emmy burns" ] > Re: chatroom#2 ["Kakki" ] > Re: colin's called (AGAIN) NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] > Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #108 [BMBSPIRIT@cs.com] > Re: someone instant message the chat room address please (md) ["Jim L'Hom] > Re: Joni's Most Underrated? ["Kakki" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:39:46 EST > From: RoseMJoy@aol.com > Subject: chatroom#2 > > Door #2 has a chatroom for you mac folks. Hear that Rob? > rosemjoy@aol.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:57:46 EST > From: GaelGreen@aol.com > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > How do I get to the chatroom? > > I'm on a PC. > > Anyone who can help, please do! > > Thanks, > Gael > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:36:15 -0500 > From: Vince Lavieri > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > Didn't work for me. > > (the Rev) Vince > > RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > > Door #2 has a chatroom for you mac folks. Hear that Rob? > > rosemjoy@aol.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:25:36 -0800 > From: "emmy burns" > Subject: James Tayor Book (NJC) > > I'm a quick deleter and forgot who was inquring about the 1971 book > called James Tayor, but I checked on bookfinder.com and found several > copies available for sale, the best deal being $9.94. I hope that helps > in your search. Emmy > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:12:43 -0800 > From: "Kakki" > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > Hi Gael, > > Go to JMDL.com and click on "chat" and sign on - there's a bunch of us on > now! > > Kakki > > > > How do I get to the chatroom? > > > > I'm on a PC. > > > > Anyone who can help, please do! > > > > Thanks, > > Gael > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:07 EST > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: colin's called (AGAIN) NJC > > Oh what two wonderful JMDL surprise today! > > I went into the JMDL chat room for the first time and had fun talking with > Bob (the smurf) Murphy, Nikki, and Stephen. WARNING! It can be addictive:~) > > The most pleasant surprise tonight was when Colin called me. (I think he's > making a trip around the world via phone .....folks in California, you're > next). Anyway, Colin you are as warm, funny and sincere as your posts and > emails always are. It was such a pleasure to talk to you on the phone and I > can't thank you enough for calling. > I urge any of you cyber JMDL friends to pick up the phone and call one > another once in awhile. It is truly special! Better yet, try to attend one > of the upcoming fests. When do we start making reservations hmmmmm ? :) > > In a great mood, > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:20:39 EST > From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #108 > > An inquiry for the masses. I am sure most, if not all involved in this digest > are familiar with the movie " Message To Love: The Isle Of Wight Festival " > because of the traumatic episode involving Joni. If so , is there anyone who > was there or more specifically, is there anyone who was part of the group > called " Desolation Row". I ask because I was part of that group but didn't > know it until I saw the movie. I was 19, cared about the music, had no > interest in the "Free Concert Revolution ", waited for hours on the side of > the mountain to hear JM, and was unbelievably pissed off when the mike was > taken from her. I actually don't remember the name of the guy who took the > mike, but he was telling the truth about the free tickets. I got one of the > first ones, never used it because the hillside was less crowded and you could > hear pretty well, then put it in a book for safe keeping years ago and now > can't find it. No big deal. However, aside from the trouble maker, who by the > way, ended the revolution as soon as he hooked up with a woman, I met some > wonderful people and would like to correspond with any of them. I would > especially like to find someone nicknamed " Chickey " She is shown during an > interview just standing and smiling by herself with a bandana across her > head. It covered what I guess was a large birth mark on her forehead but I > don't think that it bothered her. In any case, she was the mother hen to all > in the group, organized food and fire at night,and just had a wonderful way > about her. I met a few from the group back in the states because they were > students at Princeton University and they invited me to party with them. I > have lost contact and would now like to renew it. Ifanyone can help, please > e-mail me at bmbspirit@cs.com. Thanks for listening to my ramblings. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:17:15 -0500 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Subject: Re: someone instant message the chat room address please (md) > > Here's a link to the new JMDL chat room. Some Mac folks are having trouble > but others are groovin'. > > http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm > > Lama > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:23:38 -0800 > From: "Kakki" > Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > > Philip wrote: > > > Sorry for coming in so late on this. Tom Scott and the Los Angeles > session > > musicians who helped her make the big change from FTR on to C&S and HOSL > > seem somewhat underrated to me. Especially, compared with the praise > > heaped on Jaco's contributions. > > I agree. I'm ashamed to say that I did not appreciate them at all back when > Joni did Miles of Aisles. I thought "who are these guys - she doesn't need > a band!" How parochial, but I was young and uninformed. I had flipped over > FTR and C&S not even paying attention to the contributions of that band. Joe > Sample, Larry Carlton, Max Bennett....in retrospect, I say "hello????" I'm > sorry I missed seeing Tom a couple years ago here in Hollywood. Robben Ford > played here at the Catalina Bar & Grill last Thursday night and I was intent > on going but couldn't make it. I will try to make up for lost opportunities > and lack of appreciation in the future! Pound for pound, they outweighed > Jaco and Pat, IMHO. > > Kakki (in asbestos) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2001 #109 > ***************************** > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- > Siquomb, isn't she? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:28:19 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni in BC Kakki wrote: >I recall the story posted here about the guy who was hitchiking up there and >got picked up by Joni. The guy was Rick Scott, and the story was told by Paul Castle. Rick and Paul were both at Folk Alliance - Rick lives on one of the islands on the coast up there. Never met up with Paul, despite my efforts. :( >the Jolly Roger Is that near Lord Jim's Lodge? - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:18:59 +0200 From: "Vadim Litvin" Subject: both of chat rooms I've just connected to the both of chat rooms.... And what I've seen ... There is nobody there................. Please , join the chat now if you can!!.. vad (in ukraine)(it's 1:20 a.m. here) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:25:57 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? David wrote: > You will not be surprised that I disagree, Kakki. At least in part. I think > the Metheny hookup was a one-time thing, but I also feel that JM's writing > and singing grew more through her relationship with Pastorius than with any > other colleague I know about. There's no denying her brilliant relationship with Jaco, especially for me, on DJRD. However, it does seem Tom Scott and his associates get short shrift in comparison to Jaco and his associates. The contributions of Scott are usually just associated with Miles of Aisles, the live album that people have always had mixed feelings about. I agree with what Steve Dulson said about them standing out a bit too much on MOA. But "pound for pound," if you look at the record of her many great albums that involved Tom Scott and his associates it gives another perspective that they may have been quite underrated in the overall history: For The Roses: Tom Scott and Wilton Felder Court & Spark: Tom Scott, Max Bennett, John Guerin, Joe Sample, Larry Carlton, Wilton Felder, Chuck Findley Miles of Aisles: Tom Scott, Max Bennett, John Guerin, Robben Ford Hissing of Summer Lawns: Larry Carlton, Joe Sample, John Guerin, Max Bennett, Robben Ford, Wilton Felder, Chuck Findley With the exception of the live MOA, these albums are considered by many to be her finest. They should also get some credit for being her first "band",one that helped her branch out creatively and set the groundwork for her later direction with Jaco, et al. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:36:20 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni in BC > The guy was Rick Scott, and the story was told by Paul Castle. > Rick and Paul were both at Folk Alliance - Rick lives on one of > the islands on the coast up there. Never met up with Paul, > despite my efforts. :( Thanks, Steve - that was such a great story. Maybe someone could re-post it here. Sorry you missed Paul at the event. > >the Jolly Roger > > Is that near Lord Jim's Lodge? LOL, I was wondering the same thing ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:05 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: yay!!!! (NJC) Every year now I await To hear the news - and celebrate The Labor Day Fest - in my state... Ashara set the date So now I'm typing here with glee (Oh, don't forget the n-j-c) To see my Joni family That's Labor Day for me I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE EVERYONE!!! only 177 days to go!!! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:34:25 -0600 From: "Dave and Beth Fairall" Subject: [none] Bob, I too think the LA Express were a nice compliment to Joni, probably started her thinking more about orchestration. They were a very musical band, no showboats, and Robben Ford was already showing signs of brilliance on guitar. Tom Scott's pop/jazz saxophone sound was original, even influential, and in those days he was launching a commercial career which would find him playing on hundreds of records as an in-demand session player. But the 79 band was just plain baaaaaddd, and not a chops fest either, listen to the ensemble playing on Shadows and Light. Joni's work w/ Jaco has always been special to me....I think they were soul mates. Dave F. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:46:02 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Tom Scott et al Stephen in beautiful Vancouver wrote: >Steve- hang on to those loonies for your next trip to Vanc. I will! I'm ready to come back! >Misles of Aisles is still one of my most played JMs. I do agree that some >of the Tom Scott sound is a bit dated now. But is was a brilliant sound- >he and Joni- @ the time. Yes, I agree. And C & S and the MOA tour gave Joni the widest exposure she's ever had, before or since, so that was a plus. >I find the Blade/Isham et al, the perfect backing for JM. Absolutely! And Bob M. wrote: >I wouldn't want to confuse a well-placed, well-executed solo with >showing >off. One of the highlights of the show in Atlanta was Greg >Liesz' rockin' >solo on Black Crow. Right! But I did not think the LA Express solos served Joni's songs that well - I felt they were soloing because it was their turn, or whatever. >The band that said "Listen to ME" was her '79 band, not that that >was a >bad thing because it was a group of virtuosos, but they all >had their solo >sections and everything. I'll go along with that. >And where does her '83 road band fit into the picture? Uh-oh! I can't remember that outfit too well. I do remember that that was the last tour I saw Joni play dulcimer on. :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:48:40 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > Pound for pound, they outweighed > Jaco and Pat, IMHO. > > Kakki (in asbestos) > Me too. I wish she'd put out a MOA 2 with the band versions of This Flight Tonight , Car On a Hill, Twisted and others that I remember from that tour. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:50:12 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Dulson > Philip in Ireland (preparing for St. Pat's day by drinking > green beer and putting on funny hats, like all authentic > Irishmen, eh Philip?:) ) wrote: > Ha Ha Ha Steve. This year a band I'm friends with are playing a show in Paris and asked me to come along. Maybe they want a mature guy like me around to take care of the cocaine and the groupies. :) Whatever colour the beer is I'll be more than happy to sample it. > A lot of > MOA seems to be the band saying "here, listen to ME!!" I'd agree with that statement if you substitute S+L for MOA. cheers, Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:49:37 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: The Boys in the Band Scott wrote: > Jaco Pastorius > was given much more free reign (and WHO could even think of holding him > back??). Sure, no question, When she wanted to make a more abstract expressionist statement musically, Jaco was undoubtedly the right man for the job. His tone on Hejira was beautiful but by the time they got to Mingus his ego had run riot. Didn't she say that the early Mingus sessions had to be scrapped because when they played it back Jaco's bass had drowned out everyone else. Max was the right man in the right place for HOSL. Listen to his intro on the title track and the little cascade of notes he plays right after she sings the word "hill". Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:53:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "Official Business" well, I'M looking forward to getting lost with BOTH of you!!!!!! murphy, you owe me a ride on your stick [your truck, you know]. wallyK -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de FMYFL@aol.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 07 de Marzo de 2001 02:26 p.m. Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: "Official Business" YIPPEE!!!! Count me in Ashara!!!! Muller did forget one verse of the song : Arriving late on Friday night Bob's flight could have been quicker Instead he staggered in the house and dropped his bottle of King Cobra Malt Liquor :~) Jimmy, looking forward to getting lost with Bob Murphy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:15:29 EST From: RK1THXguy@aol.com Subject: Re: *Joni chat room?-SJC In a message dated 3/7/01 12:25:06 AM, briansymes@office.com writes: << I got in to the chat room monday >> * Yes! I finally got in too. I needed to update my JAVA - works great now. << nice weather here in portlandia! >> * My god! It is awesome. Paradise, and good weather too!! It's almost more than I can stand. << Hey i would still like to meet you. >> * Definitely - I would have made it to see Jonatha - but the Grammy's got in my way. Heard it was great! Rob of Stumptown NP, 'Blues in Jumptime' Larry Raspberry & the Highsteppers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:58:04 -0600 From: evian Subject: jackfish lake njc > Lori, Where is Jackfish Lake? I always though Joni's place was near > Pender > > Harbor. > Don't know if this has been answered since I am randomly picking digests and reading them (damn chat room has cut down my list reading), but there is Jackfish Lake about an hour and a half from here, by North Battleford. Wishing y'all a lovely Wed. night, Evian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:59:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Mike & Linda << I am really disecting "Turn Me On, I'm A Radio", is that the correct title? Sorry if it's not. I have just came out of a long term relationship, and that song really applies at this time. Can't wait to get over it, who said LOVE was fun? They lied...again!!! >> Sorry about your relationship, Mike...Love *IS* fun...to begin with! The correct title is "YOU Turn me on, I'm A Radio", so you were very close. Hejira is probably good medicine for you too, with a small dose of Blue... Thanks for delurking, but next time there's no need to send the entire digest along with your post! ;~) Bob, fellow Linda-lover NP: Beth Orton, "Bullett" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:26:52 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: Re: [JoniMitchellfans] the gallery oops! LoL! sorry gang... getting dingy(er) in my old age. thanks maurice. here's the real deal: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1502641 pat On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:47:08 MP123A321 wrote: >Pat, >that link you posted is an ebay item ashara is bidding on.nice mag, i got it. >Maurice Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:33:16 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: the gallery - corrected msg it shoulda said... there have been a few changes at the photopoint gallery. I am now using JM.com's bio chronology as a framework for posting the pics I have and I've just put up the first few albums if you'd like to take a look. pat http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1502641 Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:53:50 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: the gallery - corrected msg I'm there now looking, Nice job Pat. BTW today I was in Borders and bought Annie Leibovitz's Photography book on Women. There's a nice PIC of a more mature Joni in there. It's on two pages. She's known for her photo of Lennon Naked with Ono dressed. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:10:16 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: Re: Last Songs NJC Hey Bob, After pondering this for a while, I'm thinking two things: 1. No wonder you prefer CDs. :) and 2. I'm thinking the shelf was not level. Lama Muller said, > I remember the first time I heard it, I watched the needle get to the end of the song (as Jaco's bass hits those last > coupla bombs) and then continue to run to the paper label at the center. I was just so numb I couldn't even move to > > pick up the tonearm. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:25:02 -0500 From: "Louis Lynch" Subject: ICQ Download -- Beware! Hi all! I've been missing from the list for a day. I tried to download the icq programs to join the chat. WARNING: It is not compatible with Windows NT. It blew my laptop to bits. I ended up buying a whole new hard drive at Staples. I needed an upgrade anyway, I guess. Maybe my new system will help me join the chat, but I'm going to have to wait a while until I rebuild everything. If anyone e-mailed me privately before Monday afternoon, I lost all my records. Please e-mail me again if it was important. Thanks, Blusterized and frusticated, but with better graphics now, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:06:48 -0000 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: ICQ Download -- Beware! (NJC) Lou wrote:- > WARNING: It is not compatible with Windows NT. It blew my laptop to bits. > I ended up buying a whole new hard drive at Staples. I needed an upgrade > anyway, I guess. Whoa there! You're not implying that you had to buy a new hard drive *because* the ICQ install went belly up, are you? That's, to all intents and purposes, not possible. I used to run ICQ happily under NT4, at various service pack levels. So, with the greatest of respect, while there *might* have been a fault with the version of ICQ you had, there might equally well have been a fault with your NT installation itself, or indeed your existing hard disc. M$ software is famously good at lunching itself without any extraneous help from the user! All it takes to show up the self-mutilation is some bit of software to tickle it the wrong way... Likewise, a dodgy hard disc may look just fine for ages, until something tries to write to some broken bit of disc, at which point all hell breaks loose. I still, in fact, run ICQ quite happily under Windows 2000, which from the point of view of the application, is pretty much the same as Windows NT. I think that, in the majority of cases, people can expect far more mileage from ICQ than you were unfortunate enough to get. Regards, - --Chris (doing e-mail at 4am after a spectacular and unexpected coughing fit) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:18:34 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: "Official Business" Ashara wrote: > Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and > tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... > > THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! Gee, Evian must have gone straight to an overnight courier with that CD, huh?! Those 5 jmdlers who "weren't" in the chat room yesterday won't understand that reference, but everyone else will! That place gets very, very busy! Hell - depressed 'cos I just won't be able to afford Jonifest this year (but still considering my options - just in case!) ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:31:33 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: RIAA top 400 songs 347. "BIG YELLOW TAXI" JONI MITCHELL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:55:03 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: chat njc come to the chat now!!!! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:41:59 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: New Jaco website Jaco's four children have recently created a web site at http://jacopastorius.com/home.shtml A lot of it is still "under construction" but there is a great discography section which includes bootlegs, but alas, no indication of the lost Mingus "demos." The site includes tributes from Pat Metheny, Peter Erskine, Wayne Shorter and others. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:25:00 -0500 From: "Louis Lynch" Subject: Re: ICQ Download -- Beware! (NJC) Chris (and all), Judging by the WHOA in your e-mail, you must think I'm nuts. I'm not -- the ICQ I tried to download crashed my particular set-up and damaged the operating system beyond restoration. I shared my experience so that perhaps someone with a similar situation (older Windows NT on a laptop) would benefit. That's all. The decision to purchase a new hard drive was my decision based on the damage assessment I made. Downloading the beta version of ICQ caused some serious damage to my system. It installs itself as part of the start-up process, which eroded all my laptop's working memory and slowed the computer to a grind. The ICQ uninstall program would not recognize my Administrator privileges, and refused to let me uninstall it, because I am no longer connected to the original network. When I tried to uninstall it through Windows' Control Panel, registry problems (a bad dll, courtesy of ICQ) corrupted system32.exe, a vital file. That, in turn, corrupted my dial-up networking program. The problem was not due to Microsoft software. The error message from ICQ indicated one of its own dll files could not be found -- but ICQ would not let me reinstall or uninstall, and I couldn't get out to the Internet to try to find a solution from ICQ directly. In short, the version of ICQ I tried to download wouldn't let me run my system properly, it wouldn't let me uninstall it, and it crashed the Windows system when I tried to uninstall it manually. During the process, I was working with a reboot time of over an hour per shutdown. I tried everything. I managed to get to DOS and copy a lot of saved files to disc. In this particular case, Microsoft's operating system actually allowed me to retrieve files even though the Windows program was crippled and couldn't even run its own Explorer program. I bought the new hard drive because the ONLY way I could fix the laptop would be to format the computer and reinstall Windows NT. The laptop was a "gift" from a former company, which has since switched to Novell. The company gave us the old computers that were discontinued. I checked with the system administrator there, who said it could take weeks to locate the original discs or perhaps they were lost for good. I could not wait. My client version was licensed to me, but the company's network no longer supported it, so I could not reload the network and dial-up settings from the client disc I had. My option was to purchase a new copy of Windows 98 or Windows NT because 2000 is not compatible with my laptop (and Windows 2000 and NT are NOT similar, my NT system predates Windows 2000 by at least three or four years). Instead of shelling out $200 for new software for an old machine, I decided to invest $450 in a new machine that did more. So, the problem could have been repaired, but at a rather large cost. Sorry to get so technical, but I still maintain the Beware! warning. Regards, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:24:13 -0500 From: "Louis Lynch" Subject: Lovely Chatting! Les, Thanks so much for instituting the chat room. What a thrill talking to Ashara, THE Kate Bennett, Coyote Rick and all! I KNEW this new computer was a good investment. Looking forward to another chat soon! Harper Lou ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #111 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?