From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #70 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 070 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Taking Heads- NJC [Richard Goldman ] Joni mentions in Billboard ["Megan" ] darn kids njc [PMcfad@aol.com] what's in a name? ["Diane Evans" ] Re: darn kids njc ["Diane Evans" ] Hannibal ["Diane Evans" ] Sting's son - NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: things-n-stuff NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Favourites By Favourites NJC [Jason Maloney ] Re: Kids today (long, boring, and NJC for the most part) [mags ] This just in!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] oops - Hannibal ["Diane Evans" ] Joni and me and Grammy [Jerry Notaro ] Re: This just in!!! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Seattle question ["Janine Sherman" ] Re: Joni and me and Grammy [Janet Hess ] Re: Joni and me and Grammy [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:20:29 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Taking Heads- NJC I looked and looked and looked, but mostly found references to Sting's son, and ocassionally a name: Giacomo Luke? Joseph? but nothing regarding the son of Sting being a musician. What's his new record? (and his name!) Richard in San Francisco N.P. Kate Bennet - Over The Moon ================================ >Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:06:58 EST >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Subject: Re: Talking Heads- NJC > >PS: I would say Sting's "Dream of the Blue Turtles" blows all the rest of his >stuff out of the water...Nothing Like the Sun would have been a great single >but as a double there's just too much filler. But when it's good, it's superb! >And...get this - Sting's kid just put out a record that blows ALL the Sting >stuff outta the water!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:52:02 -0500 From: "Megan" Subject: Joni mentions in Billboard Randy wrote: >>The 2/10/01 issue had an interview with Boy George, who is now a DJ( of the dance club variety). >>The final question was: In your book, who's queen? >>BG: Joni Mitchell. Yes, Joni is queen. >> Can I get an amen? Amen, Randy. She is not only queen, she is " Queen of Queens ". ---- Megan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:29:59 EST From: PMcfad@aol.com Subject: darn kids njc i gleaned three things from the digest that stood out to me. 1. going backwards, the first was posted by diane: <<*But* I think what you really have to teach them first is the attitude of acceptance for something different. It translates so well for everything they haven't yet experienced, and for things they have difficulty transcending....like race issues, politcal reasonings, foods, and parents. Discovery is a cool spray on a hot day, but the willingness to see from a different perspective is a hard lesson learned. yesterday my 11 son got a phone call from a friend at school. six of them were meeting at the movie theater at 3pm. so i told him i'd take him. the kids were outside the theater waiting for him. three black and three white. and i was really proud because i rememer very well the decision process my wife and i went through six years ago about public schools. in savannah, there is a great divide. the public school system is 90% black. the private schools are 90% white. we chose the public schools. yesterday, six years later, i really really like what i saw. 2. the second was by mg. < Subject: what's in a name? Evian, Your comment gave me a good chuckle: >LOLOL, this made me chuckle because I too have no idea who this Jonatha >is, even though she is a household name around here. And damn, what >the >hell was her mama thinking with that name?? I come across some very unusual names in my work, and I often wonder if it would be justifiable homicide if a kid took his parents out for horrid monikers! I have a student now who's first name is Freedom. Last name? Bell. No joke! When she was lamenting it one day I suggested she be relieved her parents didn't name her "Tinker." :-D Anyone else know someone with an "unfortunate" name? (Yes, I know Bill Lear, designer of the Lear jet, named his daughter "Shanda.") Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:01:58 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: darn kids njc Patrick, >which makes me think that at some point, no matter how much light we shine >for our children, ultimately a time will come when they will make all their >own decisions. Exactly. That's why we have to give them the tools of sensibility and reason to make *good* decisions! Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:20:40 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Hannibal Has anyone seen Hannibal yet? If so, what did you think of it? I really hated the movie's ending. The book was so much more satisfying. Intriguing. I also was disappointed the movie didn't take the time to explain why Hannibal was the way he was. Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:03:07 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Sting's son - NJC << What's his new record? (and his name!) >> HIS name is Joe Mendez, the BAND'S name is "Santa's Boyfriend", that MAY be the name of the CD as well...according to Paz, it's not out yet, the copy I got is some kind of early release or something... If interested, send me a blank and postage and I'll burn you a copy... Bob NP: Marian Hoiting, "Blame It On My Youth" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:14:51 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: things-n-stuff NJC << I listed Remain in Light as their best, but I must admit that Fear of Music is my personal favorite. Why? >> Tyler, your statement is profound in relation to the Heads music, "favorite vs. "Best"... OK, so yesterday I had a Talking Heads listening party while I was doing odds & ends around the house...Having done that, I'm changing my vote to Remain In Light...I put on Fear of Music twice, and twenty years + later, it's still too damn weird. Now when I first heard Kid-A, my thoughts were that it was weird, but after a couple of listens, all the hooks had done their job and the songs had a familiarity. Heads songs like Mind, Paper, Air, Animals, Electric Guitar, & Drugs, I have no recollection of although I've heard them dozens of times. Remain in Light, however (with the exception of the throwaway 'Seen and Not Seen') sticks in the brain. Also, it was SO groundbreaking when it came out...but I still don't know if their greatest single song would be "Once In A Lifetime" or "Life During Wartime"... Anyways, just my opinion, the worst of the Heads is better than the best of most! Bob NP: Marian Hoiting, "God Bless The Child" PS: Speaking of Marians, I got the tape you sent me, Marian...thanks a million, it sounds great!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:20:57 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Favourites By Favourites NJC Using the "5 albums or more" criteria, and working A-Z.... ABC - Lexicon Of Love The Beatles - Revolver David Bowie - Black Tie White Noise (call the music police!) Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love Crowded House - Together Alone Depeche Mode - Violator Eurythmics - Savage Everything But The Girl - Walking Wounded Fleetwood Mac - Tango In The Night Peter Gabriel - So Don Henley - Inside Job Human League - Dare! Michael Jackson - Thriller Howard Jones - Human's Lib Madonna - Ray Of Light Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing New Order - Low-Life Pet Shop Boys - Actually Robert Plant - Now And Zen Prince - Purple Rain (Sign O The Times a close 2nd) R.E.M. - Automatic For The People Sade - Love Deluxe Simple Minds - New Gold Dream Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel Of Love Sting - Brand New Day David Sylvian - Secrets Of The Beehive Tears For Fears - Songs From The Big Chair U2 - Achtung Baby Suzanne Vega - Solitude Standing Jason. http://www.the-slipstream.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:40:42 -0600 From: mags Subject: Re: Kids today (long, boring, and NJC for the most part) definitely not boring Vince.....I love how you write, how you stir up the dust and make me think. Thanks for that. I hear you. In reading all that you said about kids today, my thoughts turn to my daughter, again. When I spoke about my daughter seeing/hearing/feeling music and art... I wish I had been able to find a better way to say what I meant, the way it was intended. I know that communication is tricky via email. Sometimes, we cannot hear the innuendoes, we cannot fill in the missing spaces, we cannot feel the intentions from the heart, we cannot know the struggle going on inside the writer, a struggle which informs her every word. My daughter and I have been through tough and trying times together (understatement). Yes I was trying to shed some light upon the possiblity of an existence beyond what we knew in those difficult days. I fumbled to find some calm while living in the centre of intrusive storms, to give her shelter. My intentions were and remain only good, always, despite my ability to be human, to make mistakes along the way. I hold her close with all the love and respect my heart feels for her. I wanted her to be exposed to art and music and culture, whatever that meant. I was on a road of discovery too, in search of whatever I could find for her to do, to open up her mind to the possibilities that I was never shown as a child raised in a time of chaos not peace. For both of us, I was seeking peace. Living close to Toronto afforded us many an opportunity to do just that. I thought of it as my role as one of her guides in this life to give her a chance to see and hear beyond the walls of my own existence. Today, Miranda Michelle loves so many different genres of music, including Joni. She tells me she loves folk music in general. She also loves Ben Harper, the Chili Peppers....oh her tastes are all over the map. She loves so much, so deeply. thoughts for a sunny sunday... Mags np: Always, Jonatha Brooke, Live. (yes there really is a Jonatha :)))) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:48:38 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: darn kids njc I'm fond of the kid thread. As I said before, I'm no expert on them, even though I have 3 of my own and 2 quasi-stepchildren. All 5 of them are different as heck and I bet that there are a million more varieties out there. I loved Vince's post: <<<>> True right out the wahoo. And as a parent, why would you want to crush a beginning love of music? But I believe that there are two distinct things that a parent should do: 1. Guide them into responsible listening. 2. Shine a light on what else might be out there. 3. Balance your priorities and not make such a big deal of out that which shall pass. (which is 3, but I'm away from the 10-key calculator right now) I think that it was Steve Seagal or Paz who wrote that it was the vibe or feel of the music that hooked them. And that's good, but if "N'Sync" sang about killing minorities or hating gays, you can bet that their music would be on the Lima Bean List. (that which is not allowed in my house). And whaddaya do then? I think that you sit down and you don't blast or condemn the music, you help them understand how powerful music is and how powerful hateful messages within the lyrics can be. Is this the person that you want to be? I think that music today is so different in terms of subject matter. Controversial themes that were tied up in ineundos 30 years ago, are now explicitly described. It wasn't a big deal for me to take 5 years to decipher what CSN meant by "be sure to hide the roaches," but I sure don't want my son listening to songs about killing gays and slowly pulling the "better way" out from that rumble of hate. Finally, Patrick points out: >>at some point, no matter how much light we shine for our children, ultimately a time will come when they will make all their own decisions. This is very true. Some parts of parenting are downtright aerobic. You have to be aware, you have to be involved, set good and strong moral and ethic examples for your children in your habits: musical and otherwise. And you have to be wrong and fallible and let them know that life is still for learning for you. I believe that practising these exercises can help make the mmoment of their own decision as safe and rewarding as possible. MG np: coffee perking ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:48:40 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: darn kids njc I'm fond of the kid thread. As I said before, I'm no expert on them, even though I have 3 of my own and 2 quasi-stepchildren. All 5 of them are different as heck and I bet that there are a million more varieties out there. I loved Vince's post: <<<>> True right out the wahoo. And as a parent, why would you want to crush a beginning love of music? But I believe that there are two distinct things that a parent should do: 1. Guide them into responsible listening. 2. Shine a light on what else might be out there. 3. Balance your priorities and not make such a big deal of out that which shall pass. (which is 3, but I'm away from the 10-key calculator right now) I think that it was Steve Seagal or Paz who wrote that it was the vibe or feel of the music that hooked them. And that's good, but if "N'Sync" sang about killing minorities or hating gays, you can bet that their music would be on the Lima Bean List. (that which is not allowed in my house). And whaddaya do then? I think that you sit down and you don't blast or condemn the music, you help them understand how powerful music is and how powerful hateful messages within the lyrics can be. Is this the person that you want to be? I think that music today is so different in terms of subject matter. Controversial themes that were tied up in ineundos 30 years ago, are now explicitly described. It wasn't a big deal for me to take 5 years to decipher what CSN meant by "be sure to hide the roaches," but I sure don't want my son listening to songs about killing gays and slowly pulling the "better way" out from that rumble of hate. Finally, Patrick points out: >>at some point, no matter how much light we shine for our children, ultimately a time will come when they will make all their own decisions. This is very true. Some parts of parenting are downtright aerobic. You have to be aware, you have to be involved, set good and strong moral and ethic examples for your children in your habits: musical and otherwise. And you have to be wrong and fallible and let them know that life is still for learning for you. I believe that practising these exercises can help make the mmoment of their own decision as safe and rewarding as possible. MG np: coffee perking ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:56:38 -0000 From: "Clive Brothers" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #11 Hi,I'm new to the JMDL.I'm an avid Joni fan from England.It's amazing that there's any of us around considering that Joni gets absolutely no airplay in Britain.However that makes me even more determined to spread the word on how great she is. Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get hold of video footage of early Joni concerts?I would love to obtain anything from 1970 to 1975 in particular.I keep an eye out for stuff on VHI,but they never ever play any of her songs;neither have they done a history of her.I got the all star tribute tape from a friend in the U.S. - I cried all the way through which is astonishing as I never cry about anything. Can someone please help?How about these video trees?What are they and would they give me what I want? >From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) >Reply-To: joni@smoe.org >To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org >Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #11 >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:00:23 -0500 (EST) > >onlyJMDL Digest Friday, January 12 2001 Volume 2001 : Number >011 > > > >The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be >found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, >a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. > >The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains >interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. >========== > >TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >-------- > The Ghostly Garden >[SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > Re:Republicans and musicians ["Blair Fraipont" >] > Nathan La Franeer >[jgaertner@mindspring.com] > re: Ghostly Garden ["c Karma" >] > Re: Nathan La Franeer >[SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > nyc jmdl gathering tonight! [Alison E >] > delayed greeting [christopher blake >] > Re: Portland JMDL group gathering? ["Diane Evans" > Joni photo [was nyc jmdl gathering tonight!] [dsk > Re: Covers, Volume #13 (Long) >[FMYFL@aol.com] > RE: rufus >[SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > yellow taxi drive thru ghostly garden ["BRIAN SYMES" > Borders Bargains ["Paul Pennington" >] > Re: Joni photo [was nyc jmdl gathering tonight!] >[RoseMJoy@aol.com] > Joni's Presidential Performance ? ["Paul Headon" > Joni Video Tree 1 & 2 Available ["Jim L'Hommedieu" >] > Re: Joni's Presidential Performance ? >[IVPAUL42@aol.com] > mother's day thread [evian >] > Re: Joni's Presidential Performance ? ["Victor Johnson" > ghostly gardens ["Patrick Willoughby" >] > Stood up at the Fez/Mingus band (vljc) [dsk >] > Volume 13; European orders welcome ["John van Tiel" > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:54:51 EST >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Subject: The Ghostly Garden > >Thanks to everybody who responded to my question about the "ghostly >garden", >and please if there are more opinions, speak up! While it may be obvious to >some, it was vague to me. I wonder why she used the term 'garden' instead >of >calling NYC a "ghostly graveyard" (with the high-rise headstones)? Maybe >she >was saving that metaphor for "Harry's House" with the dragonfly on the >tomb. > >Along the same lines, I received an excellent reply from Sheldon, and when >I >asked him to forward it to the list for others to read, he confessed that >he >didn't know how to do that, and asked me to help out... > ><from your computer >> > >So hopefully I won't get bounced from the list, but if I do, at least it >was >for a good cause! ;~)Here's what Sheldon shared with me and now I'm sharing >with you: > ><the ghostly garden grows >great line. >to me, yes, it does mean the world >but more specifically the concrete urban world >of modern man that grows and grows unheeded >like a cancerous tumor fed by greed, ignorance and >indifference and is not self-sustaining but rather >feeds on the other garden, the garden of the natural >world or the mythological eden that i believe she's >referring to in 'woodstock'. the ghostly garden is >the residue of "the devil's bargain" that humankind is >snagged in and that seems to be hurling us toward >certain self-annihilation. this theme runs throughout >mitchell's work. i'm thinking of the obvious "they >pave paradise and put up a parking lot" or that line >from 'furry sings the blues', "history falls to >parking lots and shopping malls" and the song 'sex >kills' really expands on this theme "this massive mess >we're in". there are myriad examples i could draw >from throughout her body of work as i'm sure you well >know. the ghostly garden grows. it reminds me of >t.s. elliots "the waste land". its beyond just a >question of ecology, the ecology seems to me but a >symptom of a greater collective dis-ease or trick that >we've all fallen for. it can seem a bit overwhelming >and depressing if one really looks at it hard. i >think that's why i'm so drawn to her work. she has >been a relentless and profound observer of our sad >state of affairs for decades but i also love the side >of her that's "alive, alive i wanna get up and jive, >wreck my stockings in a juke box dive". she's a >haunting prophet and an irrepressible and hopeful >dancer in one. always shaking things up and waking us >up. well, i've got a regular essay going here and i >could go on and on "talk to me, talk to me" >in closing i would add that that ghostly garden could >be a bit of a metaphor for the accumulated lived >experience of the speaker in the song. the ghostly >garden of experience and memory grows and grows and >grows. i think what makes a great poem is that it >works on many different levels>> > >Nice, huh? And great food for thought and discussion... > >Bob > >NP: Fat City, "Just A Little Bit" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:37:27 -0500 >From: "Blair Fraipont" >Subject: Re:Republicans and musicians > > Yes, i agree with bob, you are all wacky. Music is music.. Just >like, >you dont stop thinking Sammy Davis Junior is funny just because you found >out he was a part of the Church of Satan.. I mean Bing Crosby beat his >children supposedly and he had the biggest selling single for the longsest >time. > Personally, I like alot of Frank Zappa's views on Republicans and >Democrats, I think it would have been great if Zappa had been able to run >back in 92, except that he got sick. >blair >np:"NEver" Heart >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:40:07 -0500 >From: jgaertner@mindspring.com >Subject: Nathan La Franeer > >There has never been a doubt in my mind that, despite all the exotic images >conjured by Joni's lyrics, she was making poetic reference to the imposing >old Madison Square Garden venue to which her taxi was taking her for a >performance. She told me so. :-) > >Jim > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:55:28 >From: "c Karma" >Subject: re: Ghostly Garden > >"Nathan LaFraneer" starts with mapping the route, "from confusion to the >plane." I always thought of the cab ride taking a path from Manhattan >through Queens where I grew up to either JFK (maybe called Idlewild, then >-- >the same name of the current SASKATOON airport!) or LaGuardia airports. >The >route to either can take one past several large, crowded graveyards, >although recent highway construction has hidden them behind privacy walls. >I always associated the "ghostly garden" partly with those gloomy sites. >In >fits of youthful ennui, I often remarked dryly that the only reason people >came to Queens from Manhattan was "to fly or to die." On the up side, We >of >Queens DID have the '64-'65 World's Fair (Michaelangelo's Pieta was there, >even the POPE came!), the '69 Mets, and Louis Armstrong. So there was also >color and sun, glinting smiles and chrome plate. > >CC > >"Anima rising, queen of Queens." -- JM > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:04:04 EST >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Subject: Re: Nathan La Franeer > ><old Madison Square Garden venue to which her taxi was taking her for a >performance.>> > >But Jim, NLF was from STAS, which was when she was still playing glorified >coffeehouses...I don't know, but I'd be real surprised to see that she >played >MSG prior to the release of STAS. > >Was she part of some folk festival at MSG or something, and the REAL >question, do you have a tape of the performance to share? ;~) > >Bob > >AC/DC, "Back In Black" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:44:43 -0800 (PST) >From: Alison E >Subject: nyc jmdl gathering tonight! > >hello everyone, >being the event coordinating master that i am, >i wanted to post to the list that several of us will >be getting together tonight at Fez to hear the Mingus >Big Band live. Those scheduled to attend include the >lovely debra shea, patrick, roberto and myself. emily >has regretfully declined due to illness. we love her >anyway. >information on the show, location and cost are below. >please feel free to attend if you are a lurker or >seldom-poster. we would love to have you! >i made a reservation for 6, and it looks like we only >have four right now. >thanks, and see ya there. >alison e. > >Fez (Under Time Cafe) >18.00 (cash only) >show starts at 9:30, we are meeting at 8:30 >380 Lafayette St (at great jones st) >New York, NY 10003 >Phone: (212) 533-7000 >http://www.feznyc.com/ >Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:00:33 -0800 (PST) >From: christopher blake >Subject: delayed greeting > >hi. i am newly acquainted with you all but like what i >have been reading. i love joni's music and enjoy it >even more now that i know her tunings. any new >englanders? >Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:32:08 -0500 >From: "Diane Evans" >Subject: Re: Portland JMDL group gathering? > >Hey, Rev! > >Now, it would be great to see a Midwest (any where) gathering! But, could >we include the *rest* of the midwestern states? :-D > >Diane, In Indiana > > > > >If this Portland gathering is held in Portland, Michigan, it would be > >only 45 minutes from me, and all the Michigan and Ohio people could come > >too! Just a thought... > > > >(the Rev) Vince > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:18:15 -0500 >From: dsk >Subject: Joni photo [was nyc jmdl gathering tonight!] > >Alison E wrote: > > > information on the show, location and cost are below. > > please feel free to attend if you are a lurker or > > seldom-poster. we would love to have you! > > i made a reservation for 6, and it looks like we only > > have four right now. > > thanks, and see ya there. > > alison e. > > > > Fez (Under Time Cafe) > > 18.00 (cash only) > > show starts at 9:30, we are meeting at 8:30 > > 380 Lafayette St (at great jones st) > > New York, NY 10003 > > Phone: (212) 533-7000 > > http://www.feznyc.com/ > >I second Alison's invite. And, for those too far from the center of the >universe to attend (ok, so I'm being an obnoxious New Yorker), there's a >very dramatic photo of Joni when she played at the Fez. Click on the >link above and go to History & Photos. > >What a great time that would have been... Joni and guitar from 25 feet >away at the most!!! No wonder Chrissie Hynde was so excited. > >See you guys soon. > >Debra Shea > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:06:58 EST >From: FMYFL@aol.com >Subject: Re: Covers, Volume #13 (Long) > >Just got my Covers Vol. #13 in the mail today, and have been listening to >it >all afternoon. Bob, no wonder you were so excited about this one. I think >it's the best compilation of all the covers so far, and there's no cheese >to >be found!!! I already had Shawn Colvin's "River" and Bette Midler's >"Twisted" which are wonderful. As for the rest of the CD, all of the songs >are great especially since there's no Dave Van Ronk (sorry Bob Murphy :~) ) >My other favorites were Chaka Khan's "Man from Mars" and the 3 songs >performed by Lydia Van Dam. (Muller, I can see why you'd want to marry >Lydia.) Wow, what a voice this lady has. As for David Hay's "Chinese >Cafe", >I could picture Michael Bolton singing this song now, and I'm NOT a Bolton >fan at all. > >So folks, if you don't have any of the Cover's CD's at least frickin get >this >one. Thank you so much Bob, and thanks to all of the JMDL contributors. > > >Jimmy, who plans on making an entire CD of only "BSN" covers to > drive my office crazy :~) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:34:21 EST >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >Subject: RE: rufus > ><> > >D'oh! > >I actually saw that I had screwed that up when I saw the post, so I figured >you'd jump in and correct me. Thanks for doing so... > >Question: What made you decide to record Willy, out of all the possible >choices? You've performed lots of Joni's songs in concert, right? Was it >just that Willy fits in with the overall atmosphere of the record as a >whole? > >Bob > >NP: The Alarm, "Rain In The Summertime" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:35:39 -0800 >From: "BRIAN SYMES" >Subject: yellow taxi drive thru ghostly garden > >I think Sheldon's essay is exactly how i think too about JM ouvre its >just i am one slow typin fool. So i like to keep my dotmails shorter. > >After watching KB's JAZZ it hit me Sidney B and and Kenny G play the >same Sax >the Former poured whikey down his, Decaf Starbuck's with honey down >the former. > >NP West End Blues Louis Armstrong > > >- ----------------------- >Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:24:36 -0500 >From: "Paul Pennington" >Subject: Borders Bargains > > Check out the bargain bin in your local Borders Store next time you're >in >there -- they have some good stuff for $7.95 for a change: Joni, along >with >Linda Ronstadt, Emmyhair Louis (sorry), and Neil Young, among others. > > Paul Pennington > Augusta, Georgia > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:46:18 EST >From: RoseMJoy@aol.com >Subject: Re: Joni photo [was nyc jmdl gathering tonight!] > >In a message dated 1/11/01 2:28:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, >dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: > ><< I second Alison's invite. And, for those too far from the center of the > universe to attend (ok, so I'm being an obnoxious New Yorker), there's a > very dramatic photo of Joni when she played at the Fez. Click on the > link above and go to History & Photos. > > What a great time that would have been... Joni and guitar from 25 feet > away at the most!!! No wonder Chrissie Hynde was so excited. > >> >Oh I wish I could have had more advance notice. I would have loved to have >joined you guys! Nikki who usually joins me in these outings is on her way >to >sunny California right now. >Rose in NJ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:37:01 -0000 >From: "Paul Headon" >Subject: Joni's Presidential Performance ? > >Hi > >Has Joni ever been asked to sing for any US President at the White House >and >did she in fact go and sing ? > >Best Wishes > >Paul Headon > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:52:26 -0500 >From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" >Subject: Joni Video Tree 1 & 2 Available > >If you're one of my tardy leaves, you can still send in your VHS blanks. > >If you're new to the list and think you missed out, send me an email. > >If you have no idea what a tree is read >www.jmdl.com/trading then write me an email if you live in the US. Also >available, the TNT Tribute to Joni Mitchell in stereo from a digital cable >connection. > >Lama > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:07:34 EST >From: IVPAUL42@aol.com >Subject: Re: Joni's Presidential Performance ? > >In a message dated 1/11/01 9:44:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, >paul.headon@ntlworld.com writes: > ><< Has Joni ever been asked to sing for any US President at the White House >and > did she in fact go and sing ? > > Best Wishes > > Paul Headon > >> >Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask whether she has ever been invited to >sing before Canada's prime minister? She is a Canadian, after all. > >Paul I > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:45:05 -0600 >From: evian >Subject: mother's day thread > >Hey Listas, > I was poking around on the JMDL site today at work and noticed the >"Mother's Day" thread -- can someone refresh my memory as to when this >thread occurred? Was it before I joined (sometime in Feb. 98 or >something) or was it during one of my "I have too many digests and must >delete all 40 of them?" It seems sort of familiar, but reading it now, >it's all new to me, and very interesting at that... LOL, if I stumble >upon a post of mine in there, I will know I really need to get more >sleep.... > Also, please tell me that Kilauren wasn't named Kelly Dale... I knew >it was Kelly, but Dale?? I have this weird feeling we are having a >girl, and the only name we both like is Kelly, and then my brother in >law is named Dale, and he's one of my best friends, so I thought "hmmm, >Dale would be nice for a middle name" but now that I read that Kilauren >was Kelly Dale, that idea goes out the window, because otherwise it just >seems too icky and creepy.... sigh...... > TGIF, TGIF, TGIF, >Evian >np: the sounds of what must be boulders, or bowling balls, or at least >loose change in the dryer.... Oh God, where's the cat....... > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:50:06 -0500 >From: "Victor Johnson" >Subject: Re: Joni's Presidential Performance ? > > > Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask whether she has ever been invited >to > > sing before Canada's prime minister? She is a Canadian, after all. > > > > Paul I > >Has Joni ever been asked to sing for Kermit the Frog? She is a muppet >isn't >she? > >Victor Johnson >http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > >"Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, >Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." > Victor Johnson > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:29:35 -0800 >From: "Patrick Willoughby" >Subject: ghostly gardens > >Well, everyone has said it so well, but I may as well put my two cents >worth >in too. > >I agree that the "ghostly gardens" in Nathan LaFraneer refer to the urban >decay of NYC that Joni, or the character singing in the song, >is abandoning in the song. The album, like BSN, and, to some extent, HOSL, >is >a song cycle..."Out of the city and down to the seaside". >The young woman narrating has packed up her life, and is fleeing the >artificial garden for the beauty of Sisotowbell Lane. The song has some >biblical resonance for me, hands full of silver, dreams betrayed, what have >you... > >At the moment, my copy of the CD, and of LOTC, are being held hostage by my >19 >year old nephew. So heartening to pass the music >down to the next generation, although eventually I would like them back! >Maybe >I'll replace them with HDCD copies. Sometimes I wish >Joni would authorize a boxed set if just for uniform sound quality. I can't >count how many copies I have bought over the years.... > >Cheers, >Patrick >Vancouver > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:15:47 -0500 >From: dsk >Subject: Stood up at the Fez/Mingus band (vljc) > >RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/11/01 2:28:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: > > > > << I second Alison's invite. > > >> > > Oh I wish I could have had more advance notice. I would have loved to >have > > joined you guys! Nikki who usually joins me in these outings is on her >way to > > sunny California right now. > >Hi Rose, > >I would have loved for you to be there too since I ended up there by >myself, in >the center booth, best seat in the house, waiting, waiting, drinking a >beer, >waiting, listening to the music over the sound system. The NYC Joni >contingent >apparently needs to be contacted at the very last moment to see if plans >are >still on. Jeez, I didn't know, so I left home today at 4:15 to meet a >friend to >see a movie (Chocolat again for me, aahhhh!) and after the movie and a chat >she >went off to her play rehearsal and I went downtown, getting to the Fez a >little >early, standing in line, paying my hard cold cash, and doing that waiting >thing, >just hanging out with independent me. No word on my cell phone; no word at >the >Fez, which would have gotten to me if they'd been called since it's such a >small >place, and with a "Leader" reservation for 6 it looked like all was ok to >me. >Two evening messages from concerned Alison were on my home answering >machine and >I heard them when I got home at midnight; it didn't cross my mind to check >my >answering machine before going into the Fez. Hmmm. > >I don't know why everyone cancelled at the last minute and I hope all's ok >with >everyone; but along with that I've gotta say I've never been treated so >rudely. >So, live and learn is what I say at such times. > >The Mingus Big Band, though, was great. I only know Mingus from Joni's >album, so >had no idea he wrote such quirky stuff, with some intricate passages, lots >of >humor, and always tough (nothing sentimental). Seemed intellectual rather >than >emotional. Listening to jazz recordings can make me kinda nuts, but hearing >and >also seeing the musicians' interaction makes it quite enjoyable. I like how >they >trade off the spotlight (so to speak) and how they listen so intently to >each >other's playing. It all seems so personal and intertwined I'm drawn in. So >the >evening was very pleasant despite my stood-up status. I ended up sharing >"my" >prized booth with four strangers who spoke a Slavic language (I think), >listening to the music and eating hummus for dinner (that stuff is so >yummy) >and, since the Fez is downstairs, feeling the subway trains (especially the >4 >and 5 express trains) when they zip by underneath; it vibrates the seats >and >gives everyone a fanny massage every few minutes, which is soooo New York I >love >it. > >I also spent some of my evening imagining Joni there on stage. That must >have >been such a wonderful experience for the lucky few that knew about it in >time to >get in. Her performance there wasn't that long ago, but I think of it as >the >start of her reemergence and blossoming, and the Fez (in my mind anyway) is >a >special place because of that. It's also very relaxed and the people that >work >there are friendly, it's not too expensive (for NYC anyway), and they have >all >types of performances (saw Susan McKeown, a fantastic Irish singer, last >week). >The cafe upstairs is middle eastern decor with couches and candles and >small >tables... very cozy. Anyone that visits NYC, check it out... just don't >expect >me to be waitin' on ya. > >Debra Shea > >NP: Susan McKeown's Bones, "Ce Leis e?" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:35:49 +0100 >From: "John van Tiel" >Subject: Volume 13; European orders welcome > >I could not agree more, Jimmy. Volume 13 really stands out. Any Old >Worlder >who would like to have a copy of this highlight of Bob's ongoing project, >just >let me know. I am more than happy to burn you one for blanks and postage >(or >copies of any of the other volumes). Europeans who missed out on any of >last >year's CD trees can also contact me. I still have a few copies lying >around. > >John > > > >Jimmy (Hi Jim!) wrote: > > >> Just got my Covers Vol. #13 in the mail today, and have been listening >to >it >all afternoon. Bob, no wonder you were so excited about this one. I think >it's the best compilation of all the covers so far, and there's no cheese >to >be found!!! I already had Shawn Colvin's "River" and Bette Midler's >"Twisted" which are wonderful. As for the rest of the CD, all of the songs >are great especially since there's no Dave Van Ronk (sorry Bob Murphy :~) ) >My other favorites were Chaka Khan's "Man from Mars" and the 3 songs >performed by Lydia Van Dam. (Muller, I can see why you'd want to marry >Lydia.) Wow, what a voice this lady has. As for David Hay's "Chinese >Cafe", >I could picture Michael Bolton singing this song now, and I'm NOT a Bolton >fan at all. > >So folks, if you don't have any of the Cover's CD's at least frickin get >this >one. Thank you so much Bob, and thanks to all of the JMDL contributors. << > >------------------------------ > >End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #11 >******************************** > >------- >Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org >Unsubscribe by clicking here: >mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >------- >Siquomb, isn't she? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:12:24 -0500 From: "Megan" Subject: Fw: Joni mentions in Billboard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Megan To: guitarzan@saber.net ; joni@smoe.org Cc: quitarzan@saber.net ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 4:52 AM Subject: Joni mentions in Billboard Randy wrote: >>The 2/10/01 issue had an interview with Boy George, who is now a DJ( of the dance club variety). >>The final question was: In your book, who's queen? >>BG: Joni Mitchell. Yes, Joni is queen. >> Can I get an amen? Amen, Randy. She is not only queen, she is " Queen of Queens ". ---- Megan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:55:35 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: This just in!!! Jim Johanson has a transcript of an interview with Joni televised on Canada's Much More Music back in March 2000 after the release of her BSN CD. Check it out! There's a link to it on JM.com Thanks Jim, and thank you Andrew for transcribing it for us :~) In the News: The Juno Awards will be broadcast across Canada on March 4, with Joni's Both Sides Now up for an award in the "Best Vocal Jazz Album" category. The Juno nominations were announced on January 27. Not long after the CD was released last year, Joni sat down with interviewer Jana Lynne White for an hour-long interview on the popular "Speak Easy" program, broadcast on Canada's Much More Music channel. Follow the link below for Andrew Ritchie's complete transcription of the interview. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:15:01 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: oops - Hannibal Joni-only-s, Sorry. Did not attach NJC to post. Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:42:12 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Joni and me and Grammy Last night my nephew and his girlfriend won a kissing contest sponsored by a radio station in Jacksonville, FL. They won a first class trip to the Grammy's. Tickets, travel, tux, gown, everything. Does anyone know if Joni is planning to be there? I have been watching the performers list and she has been sadly absent from it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:57:23 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: This just in!!! << Joni sat down with interviewer Jana Lynne White for an hour-long interview on the popular "Speak Easy" program, broadcast on Canada's Much More Music channel. Follow the link below for Andrew Ritchie's complete transcription of the interview. >> The video itself is great! I've got a copy and would be glad to seed it for a tree if there is interest. I don't have any video-dubbing equipment, no so groveling please! ;~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:01:11 -0500 From: "Janine Sherman" Subject: Seattle question Could Mark of Seattle (or anyone else from out that way) e-mail privately please? I have some questions about traveling to the area. Thank you very much. Janine Sherman@netrax.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:20:57 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Joni and me and Grammy Jerry, So help me I think you're trying to make us all nutz. Your nephew and his girlfriend won a kissing contest? A kissing contest? Now, I've always known that hets are a bit peculiar, but how on earth do they go about staging kissing contests, at least in Jacksonville, FL? OK. Joni and the Grammy's: I haven't heard anything either, but I remember watching the Grammy's when "Turbulent Indigo" was nominated, hoping beyond hope that it would win...and when it did, I whooooped and loved every moment of Joni's acceptance. I'm afraid that I just assumed that OF COURSE Joni would be at the Grammy's for BSN. She wouldn't dare let us down, would she? Cheerz, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, now ensconced in her favorite box (courtesy of Land's End) At 12:42 PM 2/11/2001 -0500, Jerry wrote: >Last night my nephew and his girlfriend won a kissing contest sponsored >by a radio station in Jacksonville, FL. They won a first class trip to >the Grammy's. Tickets, travel, tux, gown, everything. Does anyone know >if Joni is planning to be there? I have been watching the performers >list and she has been sadly absent from it. > >Jerry > - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:27:48 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and me and Grammy In a message dated 2/11/01 2:22:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, hessj@ix.netcom.com writes: << Your nephew and his girlfriend won a kissing contest? A kissing contest? Now, I've always known that hets are a bit peculiar, but how on earth do they go about staging kissing contests, at least in Jacksonville, FL? >> How hard is that to understand. It was the Saturday before Valentine's Day at a mall. What else could you want to know? Paul I Jacksonville ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #70 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?