From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #49 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 30 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 049 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- the image of a seagull [Steve Dulson ] Fave Joni lines ["kerry" ] Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work ["Jim L'Hommedieu"] Favorite Joni Imagery [Merk54@aol.com] NJC 14 reasons to give up alcohol njc ["Gerald" ] Case of You ["Kate Bennett" ] "When I Was a Boy" ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NJC 14 reasons to give up alcohol njc ["hell" ] new job NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] seagull thing njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Subject: Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work ["Janine ] Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work ["Janine Sherman" ] Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] good music in Somerville, MA (njc) [Dflahm@aol.com] a friend wants advice (njc) [Dflahm@aol.com] favorite image [BarBearUh ] Covers volume 13 ["Deb Messling" ] Fave Joni images from fave twisty phrases [dsk ] Re: Covert Complicity, notches ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: What's your favorite Joni album? [dsk ] Re: favorite image [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: What's your favorite Joni album? [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: a friend wants advice (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Mingus,Mann on TV NJC (TIKO*) [Randy Remote ] new job NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re:Favorite aLBUM ["Jack Neilson" ] Re: Covert Complicity, notches ["Patricia O'Connor" ] Re: Re:Favorite aLBUM ["Kakki" ] Re: Anniversary of Gene Autry show... ["Kakki" ] Favorite Joni lines/images ["Kakki" ] Re: seagull thing njc [susan+rick ] Re: "When I Was a Boy" (NJC) [RAVEN@igc.org] Joni on 2001 Grammy Nominees CD [Jason Long ] Re: "When I Was a Boy" (NJC) [Catherine Turley Subject: the image of a seagull >>The only other song I can think of that uses the image of a seagull is a Bad >>Company song. "And when the gulls fly over the sea you know we'll be thinking of you" From our own Kate Bennett's exquisite "Irene". (Quoted from memory - hope I didn't screw it up!) I pray for healing for Brian, and guidance for Mags. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:50:50 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Fave Joni lines I love everyone's contributions so far. I think I'm going to put them all into one document to read whenever I need a dose of genius! Here are a few more to add: She speaks in sorry sentences Miraculous repentences Only a river of changing faces Looking for an ocean They trickle through your leaky plans Another dream over the dam A wristwatch, a ring, a downstairs screamer Edgy black cracks of the sky Pin-cushion-prick- Fix this poor bad dreamer Sparks fly up from sweet fire Black soot of lady release Long silk stockings On the bedposts of refinement Help! I can't stop!!!! (but I will for now :>D) Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:53:30 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work "We are, each of us, so deep and so superficial between the forceps and the stone." Go Brian! Go! Lama, son of Al L'Hommedieu who's life was extended by triple by-pass surgery just 2 years ago. np: The only song by the Rolling Stones that I ever liked: "Happy". It's nice to live in brief period when one can occasionally steal whole singles like this free from wankers who are incredibly rich doing exactly what more talented people have lived lives in the margins doing. (A fleeting thought that I choose not to edit for grammar.) Of course, it certainly doesn't help those in the margins at all. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:53:32 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Favorite Joni Imagery White flags of winter chimneys Waving truce against the moon In the mirrors of a modern bank From the window of a hotel room I find these lyrics very cinematic, almost halucinatory. Everytime I hear them, my brain runs the same imaginary little film clip. It starts with a tight image of the chimneys and the smoke, panning out slowly to reveal the smoke's interplay with the moon. Even though the moon is out, it is just approaching dusk - the sky is a dull, moody grey, while the moon is full and oversized. You can practically feel the frost in the air. There is a great sense of mid-winter melancholy. Slowly, the 'camera' pulls back to reveal strange distortions and abstractions in the image, until it becomes obvious that what is being observed is nothing more than a reflection in the mirrored walls of a downtown building. Your emotions become even more unsettled as you fight to recognize what's real, and what's imagined. It reminds us that what we preceive as reality is often colored by our personal perspectives. Finally the camera retreats even further, to reveal the interior of a hotel room! - and there sit's Joni, alone a t the window, taking a long needed rest from her journeys - this hopeless romantic, trapped in a modern world, ever observing, waiting anxiously to see where life will take her next. All this in only 24 words! Now that's what I call imagery. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:19:05 -0600 From: "Gerald" Subject: NJC 14 reasons to give up alcohol njc Thought this was pretty funny, despite the fact that I live with an alcoholic, and have witnessed most of the hazards listed. #13 is a regular occurance. 13. Warning: Consumption of alcohol may cause an influx in the time-space continuum, whereby small (and sometimes large) gaps of time may seem to literally disappear. Anyone know of an alanon list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:48:07 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Case of You Azeem wrote: derision at Brian Hinton's complete inability to grasp them in his much maligned book Wow, he didn't get Case of You? What's not to get? ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:48:06 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: "When I Was a Boy" I have discovered "Maria' and 'When I Was a Boy' several years after their original release dates, and I can't freaking stop listening to them. "When I Was a Boy" - is that the one written by Dar Williams? What a GREAT song. ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:26:14 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: NJC 14 reasons to give up alcohol njc And here are the consequences of drinking, and five more reasons NOT to drink: 1 star hangover * No pain. No real feeling of illness. Your sleep last night was a mere disco nap which is giving you a whole lot of misplaced energy. Be glad that you are able to function relatively well. However, you are still parched. You can drink 10 bottles of water and still feel this way. Even vegetarians are craving a Cheeseburger and a side of fries. 2 star hangover ** No pain. Something is definitely amiss. You may look okay but you have the attention span and mental capacity of a stapler. The coffee you chug to try and remain focused is only exacerbating your rumbling gut, which is craving a full-on English breakfast. Last night has wreaked havoc on your bowels and even though you have a nice demeanor about the office, you are costing your employer valuable money because all you really can handle is aimlessley surfing the net and writing junk e-mails. 3 star hangover *** Slight headache. Stomach feels crappy. You are definitely a space cadet and so not productive. Anytime a girl walks by you gag because her perfume reminds you of the random gin shots you did with your alcoholic friends after the bouncer kicked you out at 1:45 a.m. Life would be better right now if you were in your bed with a dozen donuts and a litre of coke watching Sesame Street. You've had 4 cups of coffee, a gallon of water, 2 Sausage Rolls and a litre of diet coke - yet you haven't pee'd once. 4 star hangover **** You have lost the will to live. Your head is throbbing and you can't speak too quickly or else you might honk. Your boss has already lambasted you for being late and has given you a lecture for reeking of booze. You wore nice clothes, but that can't hide the fact that you missed an oh-so crucial spot shaving (girls, it looks like you put your make-up on while riding the bumper cars), your teeth have sweaters, your eyes look like one big vein and your hair style makes you look like a reject from the class picture of Moss side secondary school circa '76. You would give a weeks pay for one the following - 1. Home time 2. A duvet and somewhere to be alone. 3. A time machine so you could go back and NOT have gone out the night before. 5 star hangover, aka Dante's 4th Circle of Hell. ***** You have a second heartbeat in your head which is actually annoying the employee who sits next to you. Vodka vapor is seeping out of every pore and is making you dizzy. You still have toothpaste crust in the corners of your mouth from brushing your teeth. Your body has lost the ability to generate saliva, so your tongue is suffocating you. You'd cry but that would take the last of the moisture left in your body. Death seems pretty good right now. Your boss doesn't even get mad at you and your co-workers think that your dog just died because you look so pathetic. You should have called in sick because, let's face it, all you can manage to do is breathe... very gently. The opinions expressed above do not reflect the sensible drinking habits of the sender...with the notable exception of Saturday night last (for which I suffered a 3-star hangover on Sunday). Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:58:12 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: new job NJC congrats Alison! ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:58:11 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: seagull thing njc vince said," I think there was a seagull thing going on back then." there was, seagulls for some reason were romanticized. barbara hershy (sp?) changed her name to barbara seagull... ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:54:22 -0500 From: "Janine Sherman" Subject: Subject: Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work These bloodless brides of Jesus If they had just once glimpsed their groom Then they'd know and they'd drop the stones Concealed behind their rosaries They wilt the grass they walk upon They leech the light out of a room They'd like to drive us down the drain This just cuts to the quick for me....... Janine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:58:12 -0500 From: "Janine Sherman" Subject: Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work There's a man drawing pictures On the sidewalk with chalk Just as fast as he draws 'em Rain come down and wash 'em off "Keep the drinks comin' girl 'Til I can't feel anything I'm just a chalk mark in a rainstorm Talk about oblivion... Janine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:22:46 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: what is your most admired image in Mitchell's work << On the sidewalk with chalk >> And I just LOVE LOVE LOVE the chord progression that follows this line...what are those chords? Why do they make me feel the way they do? Musicians & composers, help! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:26:31 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: good music in Somerville, MA (njc) Jennifer Kimball will be at Tir na Nog in Somerville (617/628-4300) on Feb 5. I heard her in New York and she sounded very good to me. She worked many years with Jonatha. D LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:32:07 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: a friend wants advice (njc) I hope someone has had experience includinng music on a website (or knows the answer anyway): My friend is a singer who does other people's material and she is starting a website. She wants visitors to the site to be able to hear her sing. No money changes hands in this scenario. Does she have to clear the music with someone? Who? Any idea of the fee? Thanks in advance for any help D LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:35:31 -0500 From: BarBearUh Subject: favorite image lately one of my favorites has been popping into my head often, as i'm working on a video for a national park with a beautiful shot of a plane shadow traversing a glacier with sapphire blue pools... it was just plane shadow to train shadow but to me it was skin to skin snakes in the grass eagles in the sky scales to feathers you and i ...from my favorite album, DJRD barbara np: madredeus, o paraiso ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:40:09 -0500 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Covers volume 13 I've just listened to Volume 13 of "Covers and Contributions." Thanks, Bob!! This is an especially tasty disc! I especially like the Lydia Van Dam Group version of "Down to You," although I'll need to warm up to their "Shadows & Light." A lot of folks have mentioned recently that they don't like to hear Joni's songs out of their original album context, but I do! Sometimes I just stop hearing a song because of the familiarity of its context, and hearing the song all by its lonesome helps me appreciate it again. Case in point: Willy, which I NEVER appreciated until I heard her sing it on the Dick Cavett video. Hearing these songs not only out of context but performed by other artists has given me greater appreciation, if that's possible, of Joni's songwriting genius. She's not one of these navel-gazing artistes who are so damn idiosyncratic that no one can cover them (or no one cares to). She has created a body of work that's gone out into the world. In a way it doesn't belong to Joni, it belongs to the ages. It can and will be covered by many people. Some of the covers will be inspired and beautiful, and some will suck big time (see Volume IV). Anyway, thanks again, Bob, for undertaking this covers project. I love it! - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling "I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat." ~Joni Mitchell - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:42:41 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Fave Joni images from fave twisty phrases but they seem so much confetti lookin' at 'em on my tv set I can never actually get these words out and be in tune at the same time, so I just end up tongue-tied and tickled with these. When Joni does get them out, in tune of course, the words themselves are so broken up it's as though they're confetti too. and We were newly lovers then We were fire in the stiff-blue-haired-house-rules Similar situation, I can't get the words all out in time, and when Joni sings that hyphenated phrase it sounds as stiff to me as a ruler about to rap someone for rambunctious "bad" behavior. The close contrast of unpredictable uncontrollable fire with such rigidity impresses me every time. Debra Shea, enjoying again thinking about Joni's words and wondering if there are any sets of lines that wouldn't impress me... don't think so at the moment in my Joni's-SO-brilliant haze ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:52:03 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Covert Complicity, notches > "Do your smiles covert complicity, debase as it admires?" -- what's that > about? read Pat's post... Ok, had to look at the lyrics sheet on this one to be sure I was right about what it says. First of all the line reads: "Does your smiles covert complicity debase as it admires?" I think there should be an apostrophe in smile's, making it possessive. This makes covert an adjective describing complicity. In other words does that smile posess a hidden agenda that you expect me to be your accomplice in achieving? Are you admiring me, thinking what a beautiful, wonderful person I am or are you undressing me in your mind & thinking of doing very, very naughty & nasty things to me? > As for "you're notches liberation doll", I really don't have a clue. " We've gone over this one before. I still say (and will go to my grave saying it unless Siquomb herself tells me personally that I am dead wrong) that the man is referring to the room full of glasses from the previous line. Those glasses are 'your notches' like a gunfighter's notches on his gunbelt or notches on a bedpost. He's saying, 'You made me a drunk with your independent, uppity, competitive (unfeminine) ways. You can chalk every glass of wine I drank up to your score. They're your notches, liberation doll.' Liberation doll is a sneering & derisive name he's throwing at her. Men used to call women they were attracted to doll at one time. Just watch some of those old Humphrey Bogart movies. That's my story & I'm sticking to it! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:01:23 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: What's your favorite Joni album? Hejira, always, with Night Ride Home as my sentimental second favorite because it sounded clear, like Joni again, and brought back my enthusiasm for her music, which had been greatly lessened by the 80s albums that I bought out of loyalty but could never love the way I loved all the previous ones. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:11:08 EST From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: favorite image A helicopter lands on the Pan Am roof Like a dragonfly on a tomb Big boat chuggin' back with a belly full of cars On your mark red ribbon runner The caressing rev of motors Finely tuned like fancy women In thirties evening gowns Terry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:12:57 EST From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: What's your favorite Joni album? Tie: Hejira/HOSL/FTR Terry www.addconsults.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:13:55 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: a friend wants advice (njc) > I hope someone has had experience includinng music on a website (or knows the > answer anyway): > > My friend is a singer who does other people's material and she is starting a > website. She wants visitors to the site to be able to hear her sing. No money > changes hands in this scenario. Does she have to clear the music with > someone? Who? Any idea of the fee? I know that when Holley was trying to upload a couple of songs to an MP3 site, she was told in order to make a cover song available on the internet there was a separate license involved even though she had already received permission to include this song on her album. But if your friend is putting merely snippets of songs on her website then maybe it isn't an issue. I would contact the Harry Fox Agency or visit their website. Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:52:24 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: a friend wants advice (njc) I think a licence is required for any performance of a copyrighted work, regardless of whether money changes hands. I agree with Victor that Harry Fox Agency is probably the place to go. Either that or ASCAP or BMI. As an alternate to all this, she can perform songs in the public domain, where no licence would be needed. RR Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > I hope someone has had experience includinng music on a website (or knows the > answer anyway): > > My friend is a singer who does other people's material and she is starting a > website. She wants visitors to the site to be able to hear her sing. No money > changes hands in this scenario. Does she have to clear the music with > someone? Who? Any idea of the fee? > > Thanks in advance for any help D LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:01:43 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Mingus,Mann on TV NJC (TIKO*) Says here Aimee Mann will be musical guest on Letterman this Friday. Also, a 2 hr show on Charles Mingus will be on Bravo's "Bravo Arena" Sat@5PM EST and Sun@11AM EST. *that I know of ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:00:21 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: new job NJC congrats Alison! ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:43:51 -0800 From: "Jack Neilson" Subject: Re:Favorite aLBUM If I'm doin this right, just had to say how nice it is to read identical responses to BLUE from the start....There was something SO safe about Blue, for me, at that time in my life....cannot explain it...don't need to..Nothing else has ever come that close .........There was a song for me..........on every cut...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:24:10 -0500 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: Covert Complicity, notches - ---- Original Message ----- From: c Karma > "Do your smiles covert complicity, debase as it admires?" -- what's that > about? read Pat's post... My problem with this is not the meaning but the grammar, it's like Jim Morrison saying: If they say I never loved you You know they are a liar It hits me as a mistake, it's a glaring stand out every time I hear it which in the case of the Doors song happens to be more often than I'd like to hear it.). She also says in "Come In From the Cold", which BTW is a song that I love: I feel your legs under the table Leaning into mine I feel renewed I feel disabled By these bonfires in my spine I don't know who the arsonist was Which incendiary soul But all I ever wanted... I used to try to make this conform to some idea of sexual awakening, but the problem was, wouldn't she know who the "arsonist" was if that was the meaning? So I think that she means bon-fires as back-pain, post-polio syndrome, the arsonist being the "incendiary soul" from whom she contracted polio. I t makes sense to me, but ...what is it doing in this song, in this verse? Patricia O'Connor p.a.oconnor@att.net private to CJ: NP Slip Sliding in my head ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:23:42 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: a friend wants advice (njc) David Lahm wrote: > My friend is a singer who does other people's material >and she is starting a website. She wants visitors to the >site to be able to hear her sing. No money changes >hands in this scenario. Does she have to clear the music >with someone? Who? Any idea of the fee? I've been asked this question in various forms from a few people lately. My general suggestion is to try contacting a good resource like the Songwriters Guild (merged with National Academy of Songwriters recently) for guidance. http://www.songwriters.org David, aren't you on their advisory board? Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:28:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Re:Favorite aLBUM > If I'm doin this right, just had to say how nice it is to >read identical responses to BLUE from the >start....There was something SO safe about Blue, for >me, at that time in my life....cannot explain it...don't >need to..Nothing else has ever come that >close .........There was a song for me..........on every >cut...... Well there you are - Hi Jack!!! Glad you came out of lurking! I think Blue must be very close to all of us at some level. It was definitely the songtrack of my life when it came out. But for me it is still obstinately in this order - For The Roses, Song To A Seagull, and Don Juan (then Blue, well maybe Blue transcends them all, too ;-) Great to hear from you! Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:42:01 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Anniversary of Gene Autry show... Steve wrote: > No. The then-hip radio station - KSCA? - was giving out tickets via > a phone-in Joni trivia contest. I knew all the answers, of course :) > but could never get through as caller thirteen or whatever they were > looking for. Geesch - too bad we weren't a team back then! ;-) > But Kakki, three years later we had the PWWAM taping at which so > many of our Joni dreams came true... :) Well, yes, it was worth the wait and nothing can ever compare to that night. Never in our wildest dreams and forever pinching ourselves, eh? ;-) Total magic. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:52:21 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Favorite Joni lines/images "We once loved together and we floodlit that time Input - Output - Electricity" ******* "You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes all across the sky They're going to aim the hoses on you Show them you won't expire Not till you burn up every passion Not even when you die." ******** "We move in measures Through loves' changing faces Needy and nonchalant Greedy and gracious Through petty dismissals And grand embraces Like it was only a dance!" ********* "When I was three feet tall And wide-eyed open to it all" Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:08:18 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: seagull thing njc On 1/29/01 5:58 PM, Kate Bennett wrote > vince said," I think there was a seagull thing going on back then." > there was, seagulls for some reason were romanticized. barbara hershy (sp?) > changed her name to barbara seagull... Barbara Hershey became Barbara Hershey Seagull (legally, I believe) because she accidentally hit and killed a seagull with her car. I seem to remember her saying that she felt the soul of the bird enter her body. Indeed, there were a lot of "things" going on back then! Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:20:29 -0800 From: RAVEN@igc.org Subject: Re: "When I Was a Boy" (NJC) At 04:30 01/29/2001, in a post entitled "Brian Blade Interview-SJC", Catherine T wrote: >I know that there are Sib fans on the list (Hi Azeem!) who have sung >her praises here before, but at last, I have discovered "Maria' and >'When I Was a Boy' several years after their original release dates, >and I can't freaking stop listening to them. It's never too late to discover Jane, and those are great choices! Next, you'll need to explore some of her other work. I usually suggest any of her five previous albums, released between 1981 and 1989 (I specially like her first three: Jane Siberry, No Borders Here, The Speckless Sky), but I'm sure there are some Jane-fans here who will offer different advice. :) At 17:48 01/29/2001, Kate Bennet asked: >"When I Was a Boy" - is that the one written by Dar Williams? There is no connection between the two... Jane's WIWAB album does not have any songs with that title, it's only the album's title. >What a GREAT song. Yes, one of my favorite Dar-songs, and I believe she always includes it on the set list for her live shows. - -- RAVEN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:36:31 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: Joni on 2001 Grammy Nominees CD I just found this bit of news on the Wall of Sound site and thought I'd pass it along, as it may be of interest to all the completists out there. Joni's certainly going to be keeping some interesting company on this disc... [http://www.wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/grammydisc012601.html] Radiohead Meets Aguilera on CD What do 'N Sync's "Bye, Bye, Bye," Macy Gray's "I Try," Radiohead's "Optimistic," and Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady" have in common? They are all up for (or are on albums up for) Grammy Awards. And the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, in conjunction with Capitol Records, is rolling all the nominees onto a new CD collection, 2001 Grammy Nominees. NARAS has released similar compilations over the past seven years, and this year's edition comes in three volumes: a general CD, due Feb. 6; an R&B/Rap CD, also due Feb. 6; and a Latin CD, due Feb. 13. Though the disc may juxtapose some strongly contrasting material -- Eminem and Joni Mitchell? -- NARAS president and CEO Michael Greene is not concerned. "The eclectic mix of tracks contained on the compilations provides a great way for the consumer to hear many different genres of music, which in turn brings them back to the store to buy many of the artists' entire albums," he said in a statement. "We anticipate unprecedented sales on this evergreen project which will once again benefit the important work of the Grammy Foundation." If the success of the chart-topping Now That's What I Call Music compilations is any indication, he may be right. A portion of the profits from sales of the CDs will benefit the Grammy Foundation's music-education programs. The Grammy Awards will be held Feb. 21 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles and broadcast live on CBS. Track listing for 2001 Grammy Nominees: Beck, "Sexx Laws" Eminem, "The Real Slim Shady" Radiohead, "Optimistic" Paul Simon, "You're the One" Steely Dan, "Cousin Dupree" Destiny's Child, "Say My Name" Macy Gray, "I Try" Madonna, "Music" U2, "Beautiful Day" 'N Sync, "Bye, Bye, Bye" Backstreet Boys, "Show Me the Meaning of Being Lonely" Barenaked Ladies, "Pinch Me" The Corrs, "Breathless" Christina Aguilera, "What a Girl Wants" Macy Gray, "I Try" Madonna, "Music" Aimee Mann, "Save Me" Joni Mitchell, "Both Sides Now" Britney Spears, "Oops! ... I Did It Again" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:59:07 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Re: "When I Was a Boy" (NJC) RAVEN@igc.org wrote: > It's never too late to discover Jane, and those are great choices! > Next, you'll need to explore some of her other work. I usually > suggest any of her five previous albums, released between 1981 > and 1989 (I specially like her first three: Jane Siberry, > No Borders Here, The Speckless Sky), but I'm sure there > are some Jane-fans here who will offer different advice. :) Hi Raven-- Here's the funny part--I own every thing Sib did up until WIWAB, No Borders through Bound , bought them when they were first released, and loved them. Then for some reason turned away just before WIWAB. My Twilight-Zoneish theory is that WIWAB and "Maria" sat out there and "waited" for me until I was really ready to hear them right. I've been to her website and ordered her New York trilogy and her recently Juno-nominated album "Hush," interpretations of Celtic and American spirituals. Waiting impatianetly for them to arrive. Interesting phenomenon that like so many of my favorite artists, she has given up dealing with a mjor label and has gone it alone business-wise via the web. Everybody get over to www.sheeba.ca and buy Jane's stuff! Keep her in business! I want more! :-) Catherine T., from the misty banks of Forbes Creek ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #49 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?