From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #32 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 19 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 032 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's Favorite? [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Larry Klein ["Bill Pearson" ] Re: Getting together (NJC) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] FW: Vinyl Collectors! ["Michael Cooper" ] Re: A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC [Don Rowe ] DRJD, song by song [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] "Musician of the Millennium" Contest! ["cassy" ] NJC Oh man...Jesse! [SueVoigt@cs.com] NAMM News ["Michael Paz" ] Joni painting ["c Karma" ] Re: Joni painting [Penny ] Re: Getting together (NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] Re: Eric Johnson in Anaheim (NJC) ["Mike Hicks" ] This JUST In (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Meat Puppets (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Getting together (NJC) [Alison E ] Re: DRJD, song by song [Don Rowe ] Re: Joni's Favorite? [JRMCo1@aol.com] Shawn Colvin's New CD NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] cats NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Ommisions ["Frederick Freeman" (by way of Les I] The MP3 tribute to Joni continues !!! ["Frederick Freeman" ] Re: cats NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: LA Minifest (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC Oh man...Jesse! ["Diane Evans" ] Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC [Janet Hess ] Re: Joni painting ["Diane Evans" ] Re: cats NJC ["Diane Evans" ] Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC [AsharaJM@aol.com] RE: cats NJC ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC [catman ] Both Sides No on DVD ["Jamie Zubairi" ] squirt gunning NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: martin luther king NJC [Heather ] Jungle line;my newest convert ["Megan" ] Re: Jungle line;my newest convert [Relayer211@aol.com] got it!!!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Audiophile's Corner, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:06:09 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? <> I was thinking about it, Debra, but the way you tell it old New York doesn't sound near wanton enough for me quite yet. Maybe my best bet is to chill here on the left coast til the Big Apple is good and squalid again. :-) Don't even get me started on Disney! lol I've always dreamed of living for the City...I'm intent on making it there for an extended stay at some point. Lately I've been thinking to myself: if not now, when? The notion is one I've become enamored with and am beginning to visualize, which is key for me. I even committed to a 'Contract With Myself' to conquer my NYC dream, which I dutifully wrote up with a stick, in the sand, on the beaches of Monterey, CA last weekend. Problem is, it was a *very* nice beach and a gorgeous, warm day and the waves washed up the shore gently, but summarily, annuling the signed pact. Never a Public Notary around when you *really* need one. Truth is, my feet start dragging and my knees get weak when I take steps away from this Northern California-ness. I don't mean to "Start Spreading the News" quite yet, but someday soon... Thanks much for your thoughts on the Mayall piece, Debra. I think they're quite right on. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:59:04 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! hi jack!!!! glad you delurked! i will be hysterically anxious, running up and down the streets and howling from the roof in my apartment building until feb. 21, but i think i can handle it. did you choose that date because it is your birthday? folks: DON'T miss jack's artwork!!!!! you'll love his cleverness and of course joni's face, for god's sake! so go there and buy the thing!!!!! wallyK, sleepless at 7 am, and blessing god for the cooling breeze and the rain after another 100-degree week... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:20:39 EST From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com Subject: London NJC Hello to all in the U.K. I will be in London during the first week in April. Any suggestions as to good restaurants, shows, nightclubs? This will be my second time to this area, but was I much too young to remember and appreciate anything about it and am just now putting together an itinerary. Please email me privately so as not to take up bandwith here. Thanks in advance. SAVtheWAVE@aol.com JOE in Rhode Island ( usa) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:09:19 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite?, NJC really. Okay, about this "title", may I offer an alternate interpretation. Saying it's "Joni's Favorite" doesn't mean, "Joni and Me Doing the Nasty". Maybe, after viewing lots of paintings, she simply said, you know, "I like this one. Hey, look at the time. Want to get some Mexican food? Do you have a light?" As Judy Tenudo used to say, "Hey, it could happen!" Lama PS- Is it possible that it was titled by some other Joni? Has anyone said JM for sure? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:12:21 -0000 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: Larry Klein Found this Bill http://www.worldsend.com/producers.html LARRY KLEIN is currently working on a new JONI MITCHELL album. He just completed touring with JONI MITCHELL as Musical Director. He recently completed tracks with ANNE McCUE for Relentless, JACKIE BRISTOW for Liberation and an orchestral album, "Both Sides Now" with JONI MITCHELL for Reprise. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:28:50 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) You've been straight for four years? Now this explains your former fascination with Bourbon Street but where did those older kids come from? Lama Paz said, "Check it out and be there when I receive the prize for four years straight." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:06:15 -0800 From: "Michael Cooper" Subject: FW: Vinyl Collectors! Lord knows, my wife is a patient woman. She'll listen to whatever music I drag home, go to shows, listen to me drone on about music. But she draws the line at having multiple copies of the same music cluttering up the house. After months of dragging my feet, and after hauling all my old vinyl from our old house to our new one, I have begun weeding out vinyl records that I now have on CD. Before I drag them to the used record shop, I thought a JMDLer might be interested in a few slabs of vintage Joni vinyl. I don't make any great claims on condition. These records were used and loved for many, many years. But they would rather find a new home in a loving JMDL house than in a dusty used record shop. We can work out a trade (maybe for some CD trade list items). The Joni titles looking for a new home are: Court and Spark (textured cover) Hejira Ladies of the Canyon Blue If you'd like to see the full list let me know and I'll e-mail it to ya! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:28:46 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! Wally, No, Feb 21 is not my birthday, I just picked that day in order to give everyone time to participate in the contest. My actual birthday is coming up though - Feb 1! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC To paraphrase 'Barfly': "The eternal question. The eternal answer: I don't know." Which is to say that if there are select flat surfaces that you can keep your cat off of, you're further along in feline discipline than I'll ever be. In fact, it's been my experience that the harder you try to keep a cat away from a certain area, the more attractive that area becomes! Hope others can help ... me, I'm useless to ya! ;-) Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:32:51 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: DRJD, song by song The article that Les posted the other day sent me scurrying to the lyrics for the entire DJRD album! Whew! I forget sometimes what a treasure chest of concepts and symbols and words that project really is... I was looking at it with Joni's quote in mind: "Basically it has to do with turning your back on America and heading into the Third World...at the time Muslims were messing around in Washington, there were radical tensions. I was disillusioned. The songs on the album have a lot of ethnic references and there's a certain sentimentality for the North American Indian." Certainly, we could talk about this record for months...in looking at the lyrics and thinking about them over the past couple of days, lots of specific questions popped up, but I'll sit on those for now in favor of a general overview of DJRD. I never really looked it in depth as a whole, and it was interesting to do so. And it also fits with how the album was originally released. Not to say that Joni's WRONG, but I'm having a tough time rationalizing her 'theme' of the project as described above. Side One: 1. Cotton Avenue - She starts in the country, but is drawn by the city lights and the excitement, the people. 2. Talk To Me - Is this addressed to someone she just has met on Cotton Ave, or to an established relationship? It's always seemed to me to be about the latter. In either regard, from this conflict comes... 3. Jericho - The end of the first side and the resolution of the first "movement" as she declares her honest sense of love and all it entails with the person in "Talk to Me" Side 2: Paprika Plains - She begins, possibly back in the Cotton Avenue location, some public place to be sure, steps outside to 'get some air', and begins to reflect on the country, open plains of her homeland, and the North American Indians. She segues into a flashback/fantasy/dream sequence, and then returns to her companion in the club with the 'mirrored ball'. This is the song that Joni uses to introduce her ultimate theme as she expresses it above. Side 3. 1. Otis & Marlena - Perhaps she is totally OUT of this portrait, or perhaps she is superimposing the relationship she's been discussing with this couple who escape & observe the superficial decadence of this hotel setting. 2. Tenth World - a segue from the "dream on" chant of O&M, and a segue from that very consumable commercial world to the African 'Dreamland'. From the tenth world to the third world... 3. Dreamland - "It's a long long way from Canada"...is Good Time Mary & The Fortune Hunter the alterego or the antithesis of Otis & Marlena? The song is loaded with contrasts and is clearly the heart of Joni's theme of entering the third world and turning your back on the kind of world she descibes in O&M. Completes the song cycle of side 3. Side 4. 1. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - This song is a continuance of Joni's dealing with her "country" side and her "city" side...missing her fresh white linen...the battle between the eagle (the standard that others (Myrtle?) hold her to) and the serpent (the temptations and muses she is drawn to). "Restless for streets & honky tonks, restless for home & routine". 2. Off Night Backstreet - The flipside of Jericho, she introduces the song by wondering if she hasn't been kidding herself, and the confidence & extra time she's asked of her partner have NOT been exchanged. She realizes that she's relegated to the role of the woman who is there when she's needed and that's it. 3. Silky Veils of Ardor - Now she withdraws herself from the relationship altogether, but just like in "Amelia", she longs to crash back into the arms of love. She realizes that only in her dreams can she return to the way things used to be, whether it's her life in the country and that attitude, or the romance that once was a flame and is now a cinder. I don't really see her returning to her theme on the final side, perhaps she centers it to represent it as the "core" of the record, and "frames" it with a love story. I don't know...I'm just thinking out loud here. Whatever, DJRD is a VERY dense work, musically but especially lyrically. I'd be anxious to hear what you guys think...and perhaps in the midst of some general thoughts, we can address some specific questions as well. Bob NP: Susana Baca, "Negra Presentuosa" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:56:49 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: "Musician of the Millennium" Contest! "Musician of the Millennium" Contest! Tell us your choice for best band or performer -- and help your favorite be named "Spun Musician of the Millennium." enter your choice at: http://www.spun.com/promos/upc/index-two-bands.jsp I guess it never hurts to try! Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:36 EST From: SueVoigt@cs.com Subject: NJC Oh man...Jesse! Is it a double standard that causes me to see Jackson as retaining some integrity where I saw Clinton as greasy? Is it the act of admission and responsibility versus the act of denial and cover-up that allows me to see these two individual from a different slant? Is the difference in the behavior of the final act enough to justify such a different reaction in me regarding the quality of the core behavior itself? I feel Jackson to be human while I felt Clinton to be a hologram. I feel...Oh, Jesse Jackson...what a loss...whereas I felt...Clinton...Get the hell out of here! What's up with that? Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:11:48 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: NAMM News FRI 19 - SUN 21: NAAM SHOW MUSICIANS AND MUSIC WHOLESALERS: Look for Lisa at the SWR Amplifiers, Zeta Violins, Yamaha Instruments, and Gig Magazine booths at Anaheim Convention Center! (This event is not open to the general public - badge required.) Just got this info from Lisa. Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:15:21 From: "c Karma" Subject: Joni painting Does anyone have a recollection of the digest where the url for the sale of the painting "Nighttime at the Nucleus" appeared, or did anyone make note of or bookmark it? I'd like to track the disposition of that work, and that url is my first step. Thanks. CC "Then you got into funny scenes that all your work discloses." -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:40:05 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: Joni painting Here it is: http://www.doubletakeart.com/cgi-bin/dtg/dt.sla?cc=dtg&ai=00379' Don't forget to click on the thumbnail. And isn't it a fabulous painting! I think one of my favorites of Joni's I've seen so far! Thanks to whoever originally found this url! Penny Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) Ashara wrote: > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) LOL! Thanks for humoring me, Ashara! : ) > this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides > to continue to be crazy enough to go through with > it, will be year number 4!! And "if" all goes well, it will be number 1 for me (and Mary)! Looking forward, Lori in DC ~ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:49:24 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Eric Johnson in Anaheim (NJC) > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:06:01 -0800 > Subject: Eric Johnson in Anaheim (NJC) > From: Michael Paz > To: Joni Digest > Reply-to: Michael Paz > OH MY GAWD! I just realized that one of the greatest guitarists alive today > will be in Anaheim the day after I leave NAMM show to come home. Guess I may > have to pay that $75 penalty and stay ONE MORE DAY. If ANY of you have not > seen this man play and are in the area, DO YOURSELF A HUGE FAVOR AND GO SEE > HIM!!!! He has a new trio blues based album out called Alien Love Child Live > and Beyond. Check him out. later > > Paz Yeah, I saw Eric in 1983 in a small pub in Charleston, S.C. I was sitting there, yes sitting there, in amazement saying to my friend that I am witnessing a true wizard on the guitar. Not just play, but also play with feeling, emotion, and beauty. He is definitely worth checking out. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:12:35 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: This JUST In (NJC) Just got back from the airport dropping my dad off and while we were in the newstand I happened to see Kakki's discovery, Lisa Haley, on the fromt cover of gig magazine. WHOO HOO go Lisa. I read a bit of the article and I am very proud of her accomplishments. At Kakki's request, I checked out her CD which led to me helping her get a couple of gigs here in Louisiana last Jazz Fest. I wish we could get her on Louisiana JukeBox. I am going to get a few copies of this magazine at the NAMM show and shove them down the JazzFest booking departments throat (as well as get one to the Lt. Govenor Kathleen Blanco. I wish her the best in the coming year. If any of you are into Zydeco music, I strongly suggest you chek her out. She is far better than alot of the bands we have right here in Louisiana cause she is an excellent songwriter and there are alot of other elements that come into her music. Later Michael NP-Push The Button-meat puppets (oh no I am starting to like these guys) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:59:07 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Meat Puppets (NJC) <> What's NOT to like about the Meat Puppets, Michael, except for their silly name and the fact that they have a penchant for cross-dressing...they were one of the few 'alternative bands' that survived the 80's, and their 90's releases were pretty much straight-up rock & roll from what I heard, with some nice acoustic rockin' sorta stuff as well. They have a nice feel for a melodic line too. Look out, next thing you know you're gonna be diggin' that Rayjoeheaaad...You slut! ;~) Bob NP: David Baerwald, "A Brand New Morning" (it's Les-approved!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:37:54 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) truth be told, i really only moved to new york to be closer to ashara's house and labor day jonifest. the whole career thing, that was a cover. it will be my second, and i'll be glad to meet you lori! and everyone else who attends, of course! it was the most fun i have ever had with 50 strangers. or with 50 people i know, come to think of it. alison e. in nyc - --- "Lori R. Fye" wrote: > Ashara wrote: > > > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) > > LOL! Thanks for humoring me, Ashara! : ) > > > this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides > > to continue to be crazy enough to go through with > > it, will be year number 4!! > > And "if" all goes well, it will be number 1 for me > (and Mary)! > > Looking forward, > > Lori > in DC > ~ > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: DRJD, song by song I'm kind of scratching my head here ... what's DRJD? Don't Riddle Just Dance? Darling Roberta's Jazz Ditties? Digital Remasters Jump Down? Don Rowe's Just Desserts? Inquiring minds want to know! Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:23:01 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? Thanks Kakki, Penny, Cassy, Jim, Debra and everyone who chimed in with insights on the Mayall print. Very enlightening. When it comes to knowledge of all things Joni, this list continues to be "the bomb." It's clear to me now that the female figure in the painting is not our Joan at all. Logic dictates that it's probably a piece she saw, admired and had named in her honor belatedly by Mayall, which is still sorta cool, IMO. So, now it's off to the L.A. mini-Jonifest! Looking forward to hanging with Kakki, Kate, Darice, Nikki, Paz, Steve, Alison, Clark, Phyllis and various friends of friends down there through the NAMM convention weekend. What fun! We'll be posting reports of the goings on to the list periodically. Godspeed to everyone traveling that way and peace to all. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:58:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Shawn Colvin's New CD NJC Shawn's new single from her forthcoming (as yet untitled) album, "Whole New You," is being sent to AAA radio stations this week! Shawn's new album WILL be in stores March 27. ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:09:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: cats NJC Advice to Lama- "cats rule dogs drool" my favorite line from Incredible Journey (the second one) the more you don't want your cat somewhere, the more determined she will be to get there... ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:39:48 -0700 From: "Frederick Freeman" (by way of Les Irvin ) Subject: Ommisions I forgot to mention in my last post The author of the original file was Gerald Hillman Gerald the file was humorous and a fitting tribute to Joni, with the "Who's that" ! It made me want to put Joni in there !! You can get the new file at http://www.egroups.com/group/JoniMitchellfans Frederick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:39:35 -0700 From: "Frederick Freeman" (by way of Les Irvin ) Subject: The MP3 tribute to Joni continues !!! Hello JMDL ! I havent posted in a while but I've been reading the posts. I just heard the MP3 file "Miss+Paved+Paradise" I was immediatly inspired to make some additions to it in tribute to La Mitchell. I'm pretty confident that the author will be flattered, I hope so. I must make a disclaimer just as the original author did that this is done purley for fun and I'm not profiting on it, especially since mine uses actual Joni samples. I have posted it to the JoniMitchell fans E-group as Pave the Way for La Mitchell I used the following samples, see if you can hear them all !!!!!! Rocky Horror criminologist Black Crow guitar riff A drum fill from the begining of Carey on Miles of Aisles first piano chord from Blue on Miles of Aisles Joni singing "Paved Paradise" from BYT Joni singing "Please" from BYT Joni laughing from BYT Joni singing "Dont it always seem to go....." from BYT Austin Powers saying "Allow myself to introduce.." Indigo Girls saying "allright! (Amy) dancin! (Emily) Shoo-Bops from BYT Patsy from Ab-Fab saying "right cheers, thanks a lot" A DJ record scratch Guitar solo from begining of Woodstock on Miles of Aisles Opening riff of "Trouble Child" Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford saying "if ya cant do something..." Joni's Introduction on Miles of Aisles Don Alias Conga loop from Shadows & Light Don Alias Conga fill from Shadows & Light 1-2 and laughter from begining of Carey on Miles of Aisles Begining guitar of Circle Game from Miles of Aisles ENJOY!!! I had a lot of fun doing it ! Frederick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:33:27 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: This JUST In (NJC) Paz wrote: > Just got back from the airport dropping my dad off and while we were in the > newstand I happened to see Kakki's discovery, Lisa Haley, on the fromt cover > of gig magazine. WHOO HOO go Lisa. I read a bit of the article and I am > very proud of her accomplishments. Wow, that's great!! Lisa is a fireball of energy and has really made her way around the SoCal scene is the past few years. She has just raved and raved to me about your kindness in helping to promote her in Louisiana. She'll be thrilled to see you at NAMM for sure! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:45:02 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: cats NJC Kate wrote: > Advice to Lama- > > "cats rule dogs drool" > my favorite line from Incredible Journey (the second one) > > the more you don't want your cat somewhere, the more determined she will be > to get there... How true! And they also will never go near the places you want them to like their own little bed or a new scratch post after the old one has been shredded to bits. The only advice I can add is to buy her lots of toys (she will probably choose just one and disregard the rest) feed her cat treats often, and drug her every now and then with some high end catnip. I've found that paying special attention to the cat on a regular basis goes a long way toward preventing mischievious behavior. Oh and don't ever use flea powder or those nasty chemical flea collars - they can poison her. You can get great organic and natural products that work just as effectively these days. Congratulations on your new "Joni," Lama! What does she look like? Blond with high cheekbones? ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:25:10 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: LA Minifest (NJC) Julius wrote: > So, now it's off to the L.A. mini-Jonifest! Looking forward to hanging with > Kakki, Kate, Darice, Nikki, Paz, Steve, Alison, Clark, Phyllis and various > And if I hadn't already planned a vacation waaaaayy in advance for next weekend, I'd be out there too! I've already told Coyote Rick that I plan on coming to LA in the spring, so hopefully another minifest will be held. I just can't go until Labor Day to see you wonderful people. Nikki and Alison, you'll just have to make another trip out to LA again :~) Yall have a great time!!! Jimmy NP: Jane Oliver "Love Decides" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:49:11 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: NJC Oh man...Jesse! Sue, I realize I risk being flamed here, but my personal experience with Jesse Jackson and his wife have been somewhat less than pleasant. Admittedly, I've only dealt with him / her personally on two occasions, and they were ten years apart, so.... I believe he has an agenda which he will attempt to accomplish at nearly any means. While I agree with his goals, I do not believe the ends justify the means. I do not know if it is typical for him to threaten opposition with personal violence [directed at the opposition], but I can verify it has happened. My experience has led me to understand he has a public face and quite a different set of rules for his personal life. I hope it was an isolated and unusual situation, but I don't know. Maybe he just considered it playing hard-ball, but to one who was threatened, it was very real and personal. As for Mrs. Jackson, she is a snob. That's the worse I can say about her. I guess that's not so bad, because everyone has their points of vanity. I've never dealt with her in a political arena. I speak here of personal experience, not political leanings. Please understand the difference! My experience made me feel not very surprised about the baby announcement. BW Diane >From: SueVoigt@cs.com >Reply-To: SueVoigt@cs.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: NJC Oh man...Jesse! >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:36 EST > >Is it a double standard that causes me to see Jackson as retaining some >integrity where I saw Clinton as greasy? > >Is it the act of admission and responsibility versus the act of denial and >cover-up that allows me to see these two individual from a different slant? > >Is the difference in the behavior of the final act enough to justify such a >different reaction in me regarding the quality of the core behavior itself? > >I feel Jackson to be human while I felt Clinton to be a hologram. > >I feel...Oh, Jesse Jackson...what a loss...whereas I felt...Clinton...Get >the >hell out of here! > >What's up with that? > >Susan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:54:42 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC Jim, How utterly wonderful that a cat has consented to sharing her life with your own. ;) I predict that Joan Roberta will not be a disappointment. I tend to agree that a cat's gotta go where a cat's gotta go. Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty, bless her, tends to behave in ways that seem to endanger neither herself nor property. I don't have much in the way of experience in guiding cats, and I'm not sure how good I'd be at it. Which is to say that I'm powerless before Deanna. But. I've read that at least some cats will do all they can to avoid sticky stuff, and that double-sided tape works wonders with these kitties when it comes to discouraging them from jumping on counters, etc. So it might be worth trying a few strips of tape before moving to the steel. Deanna, BTW, is blissfully curled up on a comforter on the couch, quite restful despite the Janet Reno interview playing on PBS at the moment. Deanna's a hopeless slut when it comes to Janets. Cheerz, Janet and Deanna, both of them staying close to home today and avoiding the Ricky Martin-George Dubya gridlock down the hill At 01:40 AM 1/18/2001 -0500, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: >First I apologize for breaking a JMDL rule about posting "from within the >ballpark." > >I get my new cat, Joan Roberta, tomorrow so I have some questions for the >feline experts on the list. Is Janet still lurking? Catgirl? Colin? > >I want to discourage her from jumping onto the tops of the speakers and the >turntable. (I don't want the tonearm to go skipping because of cat impacts >on the cover.) Can I just cover the tops with sandpaper or plastic wrap or >steel? Is there a texture that will lose interest? Is this a case of >"Nothing Can Be Done?" > >Am I being a bad host? Should I just give her permission and instead put a >towel on each top to keep scratches off the speakers' black lacquer, piano >finish? A felt and plywood sandwich? A sloping "roof" for the turntable >cover? > >"Lama and his feline, > each of charm to sway, > are staring eye to eye. > They dare not look away. > 'Ya know they dare not loooooook awayeeeeeee." > - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:56:13 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: Joni painting Penny, Wow! I really like this painting. It reminds me of Francis Bacon's work, in the color and energy. Don't I wish I could afford to buy this??! Thanks for the link! Diane >From: Penny >Reply-To: Penny >To: c Karma , joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Joni painting >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:40:05 -0800 (PST) > >Here it is: > >http://www.doubletakeart.com/cgi-bin/dtg/dt.sla?cc=dtg&ai=00379' > >Don't forget to click on the thumbnail. And isn't it a fabulous painting! > I think one of my favorites of Joni's I've seen so far! Thanks to >whoever originally found this url! > >Penny >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:08:52 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: cats NJC Lama, It works, but *you* have to decide if it's not very nice. A 50 cent squirt gun, filled with just water, will deter a cat from lots of things. The trick is in reinforcing it enough. And wiping the water off whatever surface you've just scrammed the cat from. I love my critters, but I cannot abide them on some surfaces. Particularly the kitchen counters. The squirt gun does work. :-\ BW Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:09:29 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC In a message dated 1/18/2001 1:48:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@home.com writes: > Is this a case of > "Nothing Can Be Done?" > In a word, Lama, YES!!! So far, my beautiful kitty has completely toppled over a dollhouse that was years in the making and collecting, wrecking almost everything. He has used my Snell Type A speakers as a scratching post, (they got new grill covers this past year) has scratched furniture, stairs, rugs, you name it. But, do I get rid of the cat? Call me crazy, but Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! (He is too *cute*!!) Gotta love 'em. A friend sent me a cat/dog joke which I won't copy the whole thing here, but this part is what you can expect from a cat: What is a Cat? 1. Cats do what they want. 2. They rarely listen to you. 3. They're totally unpredictable. 4. When you want to play, they want to be alone. 5. When you want to be alone, they want to play. 6. They expect you to cater to their every whim. 7. They're moody. 8. They leave hair everywhere. Good luck!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:25:35 -0000 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: cats NJC > I love my critters, but I cannot abide them on some surfaces. Particularly > the kitchen counters. The squirt gun does work. :-\ And it's a lot of fun, right? Toys without batteries :-) And yes, I have two critters of my own:- http://www.secure-si.co.uk/buttons.jpg http://www.secure-si.co.uk/sekine.jpg - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:44:48 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Cat Help Wanted, NJC Ashara-I changed your list. I am sure you will agree it works just as well...... What is a man? 1. Men do what they want. 2. They rarely listen to you. 3. They're totally unpredictable. 4. When you want to play, they want to be alone. 5. When you want to be alone, they want to play. 6. They expect you to cater to their every whim. 7. They're moody. 8. They leave hair everywhere. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:58:28 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Both Sides No on DVD Hi Can someone explain why CDNow is selling Both Sides Now on DVD? What does that mean? This surely must be a mistake! Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:42:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: squirt gunning NJC oh diane!!!! i'm rolling! that is such a great strategy for life in general. there are quite a few neighbors and clients i'll start aiming my squirt gun on at once!!!!! loved the idea!!! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Diane Evans Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 10:09 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: cats NJC Lama, It works, but *you* have to decide if it's not very nice. A 50 cent squirt gun, filled with just water, will deter a cat from lots of things. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:53:58 -0500 From: Heather Subject: Re: martin luther king NJC I do know of one town in Connecticut that refused to recognize MLK birthday as a holiday until this year. That town is Wallingford, CT. So my question in addition to Gene's is.... are there any states with the condition I mentioned above? Are there towns within a state that do not recognize Martin Luther King's birthday as a holiday? Heather At 01:36 PM 1/16/01 -0800, gene mock wrote: >a question was asked of me and i didn't really know the answer, is there >anybody out there who can help me? are there any states in the united states >who do not recognize martin luther king's birthday as a holiday? i know the >holiday was mandated by the federal gov't but did all the states certify it >also. thanks gene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:33:40 -0500 From: "Megan" Subject: Jungle line;my newest convert Lama, Isn't it great making new converts? I get a tremendous kick out of it myself & I know, too, that guy is going to go bonkers when he sees Jaco jamming with Pat Methany, Joni, Brecker, Don Alias--you just made his YEAR, never mind his day.I recently converted my 23-yr. old babysitter, who had previously been into Britney & the boy bands, but was inundated with Joni for hours at a time due to my daughter Lindsey's utter devotion to her ( Lindsey SCREAMS if you try to take Joni off & put on something else, with the exception of a little Neil Young when she's in the mood) So the babysitter goes, "I never knew JM did that Janet Jackson song ( Got til It's Gone) !" I laughed and saw the surprised look on her face when I told her it was the other way around.After many months of listening to Joni, she told me the other day she prefers Joni's "newer stuff" to her "older stuff",which made me very happy, but just about put me into cardiac arrest.Ah, there's hope for the Gen-X er's yet... And thank you for that astounding post on the "Jungle Line";HOSL has always been one of my favorite Joni records of all time( top two) & I must admit that 25 yrs. ago when I first heard it, I didn't appreciate it's innovative rhythms the way I came to in later years.I find it absolutely mesmerizing now, but even after all these years had thought it to be simply a song about Rousseau's artistic exploration & journey into musical and drug experimentation( which often goes along with that, even in those days). But after reading your post, I now see that there's probably much more to this than I ever realized.You've given me a tremendous amount of food for thought & I'm going to have fun digesting it! Thanks again------- Peace, Megan :~) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:31:06 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Jungle line;my newest convert In a message dated 1/18/01 10:20:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, megallen@citlink.net writes: << . I recently converted my 23-yr. old babysitter, who had previously been into Britney & the boy bands, but was inundated with Joni for hours at a time due to my daughter Lindsey's utter devotion to her >> In my opinion you deserve a meddle for that.Joni compared to brittany and the boy bands is like comparing a Fellini movie to Lethal Weapon 36...It's such a shame that the younger generation has that garbage shoved down their throats. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:32:51 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: got it!!!!!!!! njc i just got my elm street magazine, courtesy of susan, rick and illya. it has GORGEOUS pictures of joni [i'm always tickled when i see the one in which she's dressed as a cowgirl] and the article is fantastic. and my favorite joni mitchell painting -- 40 below 0 -- is featured too!!!!!! what else could i ask for? thank you ranger!!!!!!!!! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:48:56 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Audiophile's Corner, NJC Tonight I was in a radio station for the first time since 1972. Anyway, I asked the dj, "Nikki, why do I hear a HUM when you're talking? Only when you're talking." "You mean now?" "No, I heard it in the car too," I said. "In the *car* too? How long have you heard it?" "About a week. Why?" "Well", she said, "they just put in this new dimmer." She turned the dimmer up and the hum went away. "I heard it here (in the air studio) but I didn't know it was going out." "Yeah," I said, "it's going out." "Maybe they'll have to replace the dimmer," said Nikki, "I'll tell them about it." ~~ It's funny what makes an audiophile feel good, isn't it? Randy? Simon? Lama ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #32 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?