From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #31 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 18 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 031 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! [FredN] Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni's Favorite? [dsk ] njc Does this sound like anyone in *your* office? [Brian Gross ] Re: Lyrics slowly becoming clear [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] [none] ["william" ] Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! [Fred] Borders on Friday (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Joni's Favorite? [Penny ] RE: njc Does this sound like anyone in *your* office? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni's Favorite? [Penny ] Re: This JUST in! (NJC) [jan gyn ] Van won't play inauguration njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: This JUST in! (NJC) [Penny ] jm joke [jan gyn ] Re: Joni's Favorite? ["cassy" ] Re: jm joke [Gary Zack ] Re: jm joke [jan gyn ] A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! [Merk54@aol.com] Re: DO PROTEST SONGS HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE? NJC [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: Joni's Favorite? [Michael Paz ] Re: Getting together [Michael Paz ] Re: This JUST in! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Eric Johnson in Anaheim (NJC) [Michael Paz ] RE: Getting together ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Getting together [Michael Paz ] Joni in The Container Store Catalog & on NBC's Passion ["ab" ] Re: Getting together (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] RE: Getting together (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] FWIW (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Video Site [Michael Paz ] Joni Video [Michael Paz ] Re: Getting together (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: Getting together njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Getting together (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Cat Help Wanted, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni's Favorite? [dsk ] RE: Getting together (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] re: Portland gathering ["Catherine Coffey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:55:40 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! In a recent post, something I wrote was badly mangled (computers acting all crazy and shit) -- >>For those not familiar with Robert Creeley, here is the poem, offered to >>entice you all to buy the album, of course: >>Love Comes Quietly >>Love comes quietly, >>finallyRobert Creeley I mean, Creeley is terse, but not that damn terse! Here is the complete poem: Love Comes Quietly Love comes quietly, finally, drops about me, on me, in the old ways. What did I know thinking myself able to go alone all the way.  Robert Creeley Hoping to make it across the Great Cyber Divide this time. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:14:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! Fred wrote: > Hoping to make it across the Great Cyber Divide this >time. Thanks, it made it ;-) Congratulations on the fantastic news, Fred! What a huge achievement! You really gotta do New Orleans (and L.A., too, ) one of these days. Re Ed Peterson - isn't he also connected with Kurt Elling? - there is something jogging in my memory, like maybe he appeared with Kurt here last year. I wish we could all have a big celebration party for you! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:21:58 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Joni's Favorite? I ran across an interesting Joni item on eBay just now. It's a signed and numbered print of a 1969 erotic painting by renowned UK bluesman and erstwhile artist John Mayall titled "Joni's Favorite." The print is of a white woman with blondish hair engaged in the goat dance with a dark-skinned man. The description says that the woman in the painting is supposed to be our Joni. Well, I know Mayall has lived in Laurel Canyon, where Joni lives, for quite a number of years now. I'm wondering: did Joni pose for this? Who's the lucky stiff on top of her supposed to be? If anyone knows the story surrounding this painting, I'd be really interested in hearing it. Here's the url: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=543469390 I thought about bidding on it, fleetingly. But what the heck would I do with it? It would go straight into the closet, I'm sure. Not the kind of thing I could hang above the mantel or the headboard. Well, I guess I could, but how would I explain it to my, um, woman guests of either ethnicity? I guess I could store it someplace til I move to New York City, where I could hang it prominently and no one would bat an eye. But I digress... Anyone got the skinny? - -Julius np: Sade _Lover's Rock_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:56:19 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Getting together Claud wrote: > A BIG HELLO to all my other friends as well ... I miss you all... when can > we be together again? Last night I talked with friends about NO and Ashara's > Fest and had everyone wrapped up with my enthusiasm and love for Joni and > all the wonderful people I have met through the list. If it is meant to be, > I will sing WITH YOU and for you again!!!!! Just name the time and the place > Hmm...how about Topsfield, Labor Day weekend? That seems like a good time! ;-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:29:35 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Willy Royalties NJC <> Yep, you kick off Volume #14, Richard...I always like to kick 'em off with a real gem! :~) As for the royalty issue, another angle is that since I burn on a Philips CDR burner (as opposed to a computer-driven one), I pay more for the blanks. My understanding is that the additional monies go to compensate the artists for royalties. Maybe that's a rationalization, but in a way I'm already covering that base... Bob NP: Joan Armatrading, "Show Some Emotion", Amsterdam 2/5/79 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:35:15 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joseph Palis NJC Hi all, I got a private message from our brother in the Phillipines, Joseph Palis. Because of some political turmoil, his university e-mail was disconnected and he lost touch with the list. He said he's involved with what's going on but is not in any real danger. He said he's looking forward to being back with us, but he's not sure when that will be. Let's be sure and send some good thoughts down (or up, or across) his way! Bob NP: Joan Armatrading, "You Rope You Tie Me" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:33:27 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: The Innocence Mission The first I heard of The Innocence Mission was their version of BSN, (thanks to Bob). Karen Perris, the band's singer did backing vocals on Night Ride Home. At the weekend in Dublin when I saw a couple of their albums going cheap in a vinyl store it seemed worth a try. Umbrella from 1991 was produced by Larry Klein with special thanks to Joni Mitchell Klein and part recorded at Joni's house. A song called Joan contains the line "that's how you painted me". I don't know if it's got anything to do with Joni or not. Anyway I'm a fan and I'd recommend them to anyone who likes stuff like 10,000 Maniacs. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:24:45 From: "c Karma" Subject: NYT Arts Blurb Today's NY Times Arts section's Footlights News promotes the following upcoming show: The Art of Jazz One is visual; the other, aural. But art and jazz come together in the exhibition of 36 works by 18 artists that opens on Sunday (1/21) in Westchester at the Katonah Museum of Art, Route 22 at Jay Street in Katonah. (914-232-9555) In "Jazz and Visual Improvisations," through April 15, improvisation, thythm, color and virtuosity are apparent in creations by artists like Romare Bearden, Jackson Pollack, Larry Rivers, Stuart Davis, Lee Krasner and Jean-Michel Basquiat. Oh, how I'd love to see Joni Mitchell join this rarefied group for such a show! Her "Nighttime at the Nucleus" or any of her "Mingus" cover works (including portraits of Charles, among others from "voices") would be perfect additions. It would be a great twist on the theme to view jazz from the artist's perspective, from the inside out. And really, how many artists can provide such works? CC "All my little landscapes, all my yellow afternoons stack up around this vacancy like dirty cups and spoons." -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:11:10 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? Wow, that's a great print, such a dramatic and simple and sure-of-itself image. My guess, though, is that the gallery added on the part about it being our Joni. The painting the print comes from was done in 1966. Was Joni even in California then? And the red hair and woman's muscular arms and legs don't make me think of Joni. The pose itself does, no problem there (although Joni's always been private about her sex life so if this is supposed to be her, I doubt the painting comes from direct observation). Or maybe it's a fantasy about our Joni; wouldn't be the first time an artist has portrayed things only imagined. For me to believe the gallery's claim, I'd have to hear the artist himself saying it's specifically a picture of JM. Can't always trust galleries; they'll say most anything to get the highest price. And this print isn't even from the gallery directly so the claim is even harder to check out. The opening price of about $70 makes me a little suspicious, too, about this being an actual print and not a "poster" type reproduction, especially if it was originally sold by a gallery; a hand-pulled print of anything would cost a lot more than that. And Julius, what is this hint about you moving to New York City? You're right about no one here batting an eye at this image... the more wanton displays of sexuality the better we all say... oh wait, we used to say that... Mayor Rudy has tried to get us all to behave properly and be Disneyish now (very odd seeing Mickey and Goofy alongside the few remaining XXX places in Times Square).... but he's only got a year of mayorhood left, so there's hope for us all to soon toss off the oppression of squeaky cleanness and return to reality. :-) (although it does look like Disney's here to stay for a while, but maybe Mickey and pals will do some changing... ya never know). But back to you moving to NYC... are you going to do that? You seem like Mr. Sunshine itself with that smile of yours so that would be great, for me, for us all, and for you too I hope... very exciting. Please keep us informed. Debra Shea NP: Mary Coughlan, "Seduced".... what a great song on this most enjoyable tape I've just received. Thank you so much, Azeem. I love the whole tape but this side, with Mary's sexy smoky voice, is my favorite (at the moment anyway :-). JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > I ran across an interesting Joni item on eBay just now. It's a signed and numbered print of a 1969 erotic painting by renowned UK bluesman and erstwhile artist John Mayall titled "Joni's Favorite." ... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=543469390 > > .... I guess I could store it someplace til I move to New York City, where I could hang it prominently and no one would bat an eye. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:15:00 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: njc Does this sound like anyone in *your* office? "Bonehead List" wrote: > ******************************* > *** WEIRD EXTRAS *** > *** Stories without comment *** > ******************************* > > > Why being a quiet person isn't always in one's best interest. > > A man sat at his desk for five days before any of the other 23 office > workers noticed he was dead. > > George Turklebaum, 51, was a proof-reader at the New York firm of medical > publishers. Being such a quiet person, his fatal coronary [it was not being > bored to death] went unnoticed as he sat slumped over. Nobody noticed > anything out of the ordinary. > > And what says his boss, Elliot Wachiaski? > > ''George was always the first guy in each morning and the last to leave at > night, so no one found it unusual that he was in the same position all that > time and didn't say anything. He was always absorbed in his work and kept > much to himself.'' > > BBC 21-Jan-01 > > --------------------------------------------- take care of each other, Brian npimh: the voices of those who love me ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:19:09 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Lyrics slowly becoming clear Yes Merk54, I understand the +ACI-Over the month of June+ACI- reference, though I did get that one. Years ago when Leslie, now in London, and I were at art college, I remember asking him about +ACI-the thumb and the satchel or the rented Rolls Royce+ACI-. He's much brighter than I am and so explained the fact that she was talking about hitch-hiking. Of course. I'll never forget that day (coz I felt so stooopid) and since then I've always sought to delve deeper into what Joni says. I'd previously just taken a lot of what lyrics are at face value - not only by Joni but others too. I was too wrapped up in the music then I suppose. Lyrics were something else. Saging as opposed to aging with Joni helps. For me it's always the music first. The poetry is something to savour afterwards. Some is obvious and some not so and that's what makes it lasting. Always finding a new meaning or interpretation which is what the JMDL does so well. Just the other day someone on the Line, Jim of course, talking about +ACI-A diamond for her throat+ACI-. I'd never really thought about it like that before .... Justice - Just Ice. Throat, not neck. The implications. Imagery with words. For me, my fave +ACI-poetry+ACI- by Joni is the song DJRD. I adore it. So-o-o-o many creative images from the eagle and the snake juxtaposed. Awesome. And, there's that driving rhythm/beat building alongside Jaco's punching and punctuated bass. Out on the vast and subtle plains of mystery a split tongue spirit talks noble as a nickel chief striking up an old juke box. Who said Shakespeare said it all? From a twin of spirit. Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:52:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Lyrics slowly becoming clear One that I struggled with when I first heard it (at age 19 or so) was 'between the foreceps and the stone', meaning from birth to death. Seems obvious now, but when all you're fed is a diet of southern rock & top 40 like I was at the time, you don't concern yourself too much with cryptic lyrics, or else you try and make sense of "bustle in the hedgerow" and "sprinkling for the May Queen" and drop it altogether! One of the strengths of Joni's writing (and the others I admire) is their avoidance of cliche. Thank heavens for Kratzman's red pen! ;~) Bob NP: STILL Joan Armatrading, "Tall In The Saddle", Rotterdam 5/7/83 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:46:08 +0700 From: "william" Subject: [none] she says snakes along the railroad tracks she says eagles in jet trails she says coils around feathers and talons on scales he says this is beautiful she says there are rivets up here in this eagle she says there are boxcars down there on your snake she says and we are twins of spirit no matter which route home we take and she says or what we forsake and he says this is beautiful ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:53:20 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! In a message dated 1/17/01 3:21:38 AM, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: >Congratulations on the fantastic news, Fred! What a huge achievement! >You really gotta do New Orleans (and L.A., too, ) one of these days. Thanks so much, Kakki, for your good wishes and good cheer. I'm admittedly lame about making gigs happen (I was born a musician, not an agent), but the minute my phone rings with someone asking me to come to N.O. or L.A. or just about anywhere, logistics willing, I'll be there. >Re Ed Peterson - isn't he also connected with Kurt Elling? Ed is very connected to Kurt, in fact, he was partly responsible for giving Kurt his start. I remember vividly playing a gig with Ed at the Green Mill one night many years ago and this guy comes up to sing with the band. He sang like a wild man, very raw and unformed but he had a thing. I asked Ed who he was and Ed said, "Oh, that's Kurt Elling; he sits in with us from time to time." Kurt worked up some lyrics to some of Ed's tunes, at a couple of which he's recorded, even titling an album, "The Messenger," for one of Ed's tunes (Ed also played on Kurt's recent "Live in Chicago" and at least one of Kurt's others). Later Kurt and I worked together (in fact, a collaboration may appear on his next record) and, as I've told here before, I helped hook Kurt up with my manager who got him to Blue Note Records. Ed, like Kurt, is a true original ... I mean, how can you not be intrigued by someone who titles a tune "Storyteller Experiencing Total Confusion." As a side note, Ed appears on one tune on my Windham Hill album, "Usually/Always." - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:57:27 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Borders on Friday (NJC) Still kind of wondering whether there are really any other list members in the Atlanta area but if there are, I would like them to know I am playing at the Borders on Peachtree Friday night from 8-10. It would be great to see you...and a good excuse to play songs by Joni Mitchell. Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:15:20 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? This John Mayall painting is one of his that appears in the book STARART. In STARART the painting is untitled - dated 1966. Trying to piece the "Joni's favorite" tag on it, I'm wondering, since Joni was a part of STARART along with Mayall, Cat Stevens, Klaus Voormann, Ron Wood and Commander Cody, is it the painting itself that was *Joni's favorite* of Mayall's contributions to the book?? My guess, like Debra's, is the seller is just fabricating a story to try to make a sale! I just went through John Mayall's commentary throughout STARART and the thing that I find that would dispell it being our Joni in the painting, is that this painting was done in 66 while Mayall says "he first came to America in 1968". So, after reading through Mayall's section, I just don't buy it being our Joni, cuz for one, she's not mentioned in any of his book text (or he in her's), two, he wasn't in the States yet, and three, Joni was still a relative unknown on the coffee house circuit at the time (66). This print, may have been the eqivalent of the print Joni offered, "Charley Down In Mexico", for sale by order to STARART in Canada, back when the book first came out. I remember I found the offer in the back of Rolling Stone and only bought the CDIM print, for about $30 if I recall correctly, but one from each artist was available, each with the same price tag. Penny Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:19:01 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: njc Does this sound like anyone in *your* office? well, in fact, i've been dead for the last four months and i'm really happy about it because very soon i'll reach my ideal weight. i don't know about you but being dead is a lot easier than dieting. wallyK, rotting - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Brian Gross Enviado el: Miircoles, 17 de Enero de 2001 03:15 p.m. Para: Joni@smoe.org Asunto: njc Does this sound like anyone in *your* office? "Bonehead List" wrote: > ******************************* > *** WEIRD EXTRAS *** > *** Stories without comment *** > ******************************* > > > Why being a quiet person isn't always in one's best interest. > > A man sat at his desk for five days before any of the other 23 office > workers noticed he was dead. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:29:21 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? Julius, What a neat find! Of course I also pulled out my STARART early this a.m. and checked it out. I agree with Debra and Penny that 1966 is probably too early for him to have known Joni and the lady in the painting looks a little more ah, "mature" than Joni did at the time. Joni moved to L.A. in very late '67. What is curious is that Mayall provides a narrative for all of his other works in the book except this "Untitled" one. Interestingly, there is another gouache in the book entitled "House in Laurel Canyon," dated 1971. The house, however, does not appear to be Joni's - it's too big and slapdash modern where Joni's was more turn-of the-century bungalow from what I've seen in the Diltz photos. But his rendering in the Laurel Canyon painting does seem to embody the typical post-war rustic "cabins" that sprung up in the canyons of L.A. Mayall is a very great artist, IMO, and I used to be absolutely crazy for his music in the 60s. I think you should try to win the print, Julius! Even though it is probably not artist quality, it still would have some worth because there probably aren't that many copies around. Penny - it was interesting ro read that one could get some of the prints, including "Charlie in Mexico" from a form in Rolling Stone back then! Argh - I subscribed to RS back then and missed it!! I think your print probably has increased in value, too. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:40:09 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Re: JMDLr Musician Fred Simon in Chicago Sun Times as Chicago Jazz Great! Thanks Fred, I knew I'd heard of Ed Peterson more than once in connection with Elling and on the "Live" album (which I was too lazy to dig out last night to check!). It's always great to hear of your connection with him, too. What Elling does with songs just knocks me over. I'd love to see all you guys at a gig in Chicago one of these days! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:49:11 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: This JUST in! (NJC) VAN WON'T PLAY INAUGURATION Van Morrison will not play, and had no intention of playing, at George W. Bush's inauguration week ceremonies, according to a representative for the singer. http://tm0.com/RSWeekly/sbct.cgi?s=54808144&i=292891&d=892682 For those of you attending I am sure will want to know. Of course I will be in LA with some other great JMDL folk for a LA MiniFest. Later Paz NP-Take Off Your Cloths-meat puppets ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? >Argh - I subscribed to RS back then and missed it!! I think your print probably has increased in value, too. Yeah, I might have been observant, but I was still an idiot for NOT spending the whole extra 15 bucks, or whatever it was, and getting one of the signed and numbered ones! Sheesh, what a moron! LOL Been thinking about why and how that Mayall painting could now bear a *Joni's Favorite* title. Still it would have to have been titled well after the fact, but since STARART came out around the same time Joni was with Don Alias, maybe that's why the painting caught her eye - and became her favorite?? Just trying to put two and two together. ;-) Penny Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:25:42 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: This JUST in! (NJC) At 03:49 PM 1/17/01 -0600, Michael Paz wrote: >VAN WON'T PLAY INAUGURATION > >Van Morrison will not play, and had no intention of playing, at >George W. Bush's inauguration week ceremonies, according to a >representative for the singer. >http://tm0.com/RSWeekly/sbct.cgi?s=54808144&i=292891&d=892682 (snip) >Paz >NP-Take Off Your Cloths-meat puppets Maybe that group "Bush" should play. Just like George Clinton should have played the last 2 inaugurations. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:21:59 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Van won't play inauguration njc From my Rolling Stone daily news this morning: VAN MORRISON WON'T PLAY INAUGURATION Despite last week's widespread press reports, VAN MORRISON will not perform at George W. Bush's inauguration party. According to a statement released by the Irish singer's representatives, "Mr. Morrison was never slated to appear at this event and has no intention of doing so." Other performers still on tap for the festivities this week in Washington, D.C., include RICKY MARTIN, ZZ TOP and CLINT BLACK. - -Rose in Nj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:25:38 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: This JUST in! (NJC) Paz - did the article you read show his tour dates? He's doing your Jazzfest this year! April 28, 29 - New Orleans, LA - New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival Penny Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:17:14 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: jm joke Remake, remodel: A folk singer dies and goes to heaven. The sad eyed fellow's being shown around by St. Peter, who says, "you're going to love this place." He brings him to a cloud where there's an eternal jam session with Tony Williams on drums, Jaco Pastorius on bass, Bill Evans on Piano, Clarence White on guitar, and Laura Nyro on harmony vocals. The folk singer says, "great...but who is that lank haired lady over there with the VG8 guitar, lecturing her audience with her back to the angels? That- That isn't Joni Mitchell, is it?" St. Peter laughs and says, "Oh no, that's just God, who just THINKS he's Joni Mitchell." - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:33:58 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? >>> a 1969 erotic painting by renowned UK bluesman and erstwhile artist John Mayall titled "Joni's Favorite." The print is of a white woman with blondish hair engaged in the goat dance with a dark-skinned man. The description says that the woman in the painting is supposed to be our Joni. <<< I'm thinking that "Joni's favorite" was actually Joni's favorite painting by Mayall. Since they met later in life than the painting was created she probably looked at his work at some point (both musicians, both love art, it seems logical she'd stop by to check out his portfolio) and this was her favorite piece. Just my opinion since the woman in the piece doesn't look much like Joni to me. Cassy NP - absolutely nothing - rare for me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:03:11 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: jm joke I LOVED this Jan!! Gary jan gyn wrote: > > Remake, remodel: > > A folk singer dies and goes to heaven. The sad eyed fellow's being shown > around by St. Peter, who says, "you're going to love this place." He > brings him to a cloud where there's an eternal jam session with Tony > Williams on drums, Jaco Pastorius on bass, Bill Evans on Piano, Clarence > White on guitar, and Laura Nyro on harmony vocals. The folk singer says, > "great...but who is that lank haired lady over there with the VG8 guitar, > lecturing her audience with her back to the angels? That- That isn't Joni > Mitchell, is it?" St. Peter laughs and says, "Oh no, that's just God, who > just THINKS he's Joni Mitchell." > -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:13:43 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: jm joke Thanks; it's a Miles Davis joke, and I just inserted my own variables. - -jan At 07:03 PM 1/17/01 -0500, Gary Zack wrote: >I LOVED this Jan!! > >Gary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:27:48 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: A Joni contest - Let's have some fun! Greetings everyone! Most of you probably don't know me but I've been a member of the list since the early days. I spend most of my time in lurk mode, but I try to stay current, and for the most part, greatly enjoy being a part of this wonderful community. It was exactly for that reason that I agreed to participate in the Joni print fund raiser that is currently going on for both the JMDL and jonimitchell.com. As you hopefully know, aside from paying for the actual printing, all proceeds from the sale of these pictures are going to the websites. I would like to thank everyone that's already purchased one of these prints, and I hope you are enjoying it. Everytime you look at it, you should smile knowing that you contributed to keeping this great community alive. Now for the contest. As my way of thanking everyone who purchased one of the prints, and for all you lucky Festers who received one from Ashara last fall, I am sponsering a little contest. For you stragglers who have been meaning to help out by buying one of these pictures - fear not - the contest won't start until February 21, 5 weeks from today, so you still have plenty of time to send in your payment and participate in this little event! Currently there are three prizes that I will be giving out, but I'm hoping to dig up a few more treasures before the contest begins. Current prizes are an unopened copy of the Grace of My Heart soundtrack with the rare Joni version of Man From Mars on it, an unopened VHS tape of Refuge of the Roads, and a hand colored version of the Joni print. If anyone has any other Joni items they would like to donate as prizes, the more the merrier. The concept of the contest is this - on February 21, at approximately 8:00pm CST, I will send an email to the List containing a series of questions that can only be answered by referring to the Joni drawing. For those of you in digest mode, if you send me an email ahead of time, I will also email the questions directly to you at the same time, so no one has an advantage. Some of the questions will be pretty simple, but some of them will be a little devious! The first people to send me the correct answers will win the prizes. Because someone might already have one of the items, the winners will get to pick their prize, based on the sequence that I receive their replies. It's that simple! If you have any questions regarding this, please feel free to email me at Merk54@aol.com Once again, the questions won't go out until February 21, so if you haven't made your purchase yet, get busy! And for all of you who have already got your pictures, mark your calendars for February 21st! And thanks again for helping keep these wonderful sites up and running. Jack Merkel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:14:22 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: DO PROTEST SONGS HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE? NJC > there have been millions of pages liberated by > the FOIA that prove that the FBI kept files on the spokespeople > of the '60's generation At a time when the major concern for youth is which brand of cell phone to get, it's funny to think that there was a time when the FBI kept files on rock stars. At that time I suppose rock music was part of a counterculture which was meant to be against commerce and social convention and the business part was run by enthusiastic hippies (ref films Woodstock and Isle Of Wight). In the 70's and 80's the corporations took the music business out of the hands of the hippies. The rock stars recognised that they were better off having their affairs run by a tough business man like David Geffen rather than some amateur from the counterculture. I can't see music becoming a agent for change in a big way again. > I think it's true that there has been a saturation of mindless pop > in the past few years, Britney, all the boy bands, etc. The last > time the record companies went overboard feeding us the pap > of all those dreadful hair bands of the '80's, the grunge movement > erupted. My prediction is that the combination of so much > meaningless music and the repressive policies that will be > instituted by George II will result in a similar backlash. The > little boppers that grew up on pap will want something a little > more real. Didn't the industry invent Marilyn Manson for kids who are past the boy band stage. :) Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:12:03 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? on 1/17/01 1:21 AM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > I thought about bidding on it, fleetingly. But what the heck would I do with > it? It would go straight into the closet, I'm sure. Not the kind of thing I > could hang above the mantel or the headboard. Well, I guess I could, but how > would I explain it to my, um, woman guests of either ethnicity? I guess I > could store it someplace til I move to New York City, where I could hang it > prominently and no one would bat an eye. You could always give it to one of your pals. I would be happy to hold it for you till you move to NYC. Love your PAL, Paz NP-Roxanne-The Police ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:16:52 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Getting together on 1/17/01 3:56 AM, AsharaJM@aol.com at AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > Claud wrote: > > >> A BIG HELLO to all my other friends as well ... I miss you all... when can >> we be together again? Last night I talked with friends about NO and Ashara's >> Fest and had everyone wrapped up with my enthusiasm and love for Joni and >> all the wonderful people I have met through the list. If it is meant to be, >> I will sing WITH YOU and for you again!!!!! Just name the time and the place >> > > Hmm...how about Topsfield, Labor Day weekend? That seems like a good time! > ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara > Let me think about this awhile.. OK I'M IN!!!! Year number Four!!! And I am not even going to ask permission! Yippie! Paz NP-Well Well Well-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:27:36 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: This JUST in! (NJC) on 1/17/01 2:25 PM, Penny at zapuppy@yahoo.com wrote: > Paz - did the article you read show his tour dates? He's doing your > Jazzfest this year! > > April 28, 29 - New Orleans, LA - New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival > > > Penny > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > Wow I had NOT heard that yet. I am sure he will do an evening show as well as the fairgrounds, which means yours truly will be providing production for the evening event. I have a meeting on Friday to try and cut a deal for a Electro Voice X-Array system to use for these events specifically. NOJHF is a gre4at time to visit New Orleans and I already have several listers decending on my town during that time frame. Peace Michael NP-Garden of Eden-Paula Cole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:06:01 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Eric Johnson in Anaheim (NJC) OH MY GAWD! I just realized that one of the greatest guitarists alive today will be in Anaheim the day after I leave NAMM show to come home. Guess I may have to pay that $75 penalty and stay ONE MORE DAY. If ANY of you have not seen this man play and are in the area, DO YOURSELF A HUGE FAVOR AND GO SEE HIM!!!! He has a new trio blues based album out called Alien Love Child Live and Beyond. Check him out. later Paz NP-Hooked on Love-Grand Funk Railroad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:29:19 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Getting together no, michael, this is year number three! wallyK, sounding like sue correcting mingus - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Michael Paz Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 01:17 a.m. Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Getting together > Let me think about this awhile.. OK I'M IN!!!! Year number Four!!! And I am not even going to ask permission! Yippie! Paz NP-Well Well Well-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:38:41 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Getting together Not for me I am four paz on 1/17/01 7:29 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > no, michael, this is year number three! > wallyK, sounding like sue correcting mingus > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Michael > Paz > Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 01:17 a.m. > Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Getting together > > >> > > Let me think about this awhile.. > OK I'M IN!!!! Year number Four!!! And I am not even going to ask permission! > Yippie! > > > Paz > > NP-Well Well Well-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:26:44 -0600 From: "ab" Subject: Joni in The Container Store Catalog & on NBC's Passion Received a copy of The Container Store's Closet & Wire Shelving Catalog today. While thumbing thru it I noticed a copy of TURBULENT INDIGO in the CD rack. Check it out....it's online too! http://www.containerstore.com/browse/bigPic.jhtml?prod=62880 (2nd CD from the left). Also today NBC's daytime soap Passions played Joni singing STORMY WEATHER in it's entirety during one of the dialogues!!! Laura PS: Passions is really hoaky. I only watch it for the Joni content. :-D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:40:59 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Getting together njc michael you haven't been four for the last 50 years!!!!! kairuz - -----Mensaje original----- De: Michael Paz [mailto:jmichaelpaz@telocity.com] Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 02:39 a.m. Para: Wally Kairuz; AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Getting together Not for me I am four paz on 1/17/01 7:29 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > no, michael, this is year number three! > wallyK, sounding like sue correcting mingus > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Michael > Paz > Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 01:17 a.m. > Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Getting together > > >> > > Let me think about this awhile.. > OK I'M IN!!!! Year number Four!!! And I am not even going to ask permission! > Yippie! > > > Paz > > NP-Well Well Well-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:00:19 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) In a message dated 1/17/2001 10:55:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > no, michael, this is year number three! > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides to continue to be crazy enough to go through with it, will be year number 4!! And "if" she has it, and "if" Kakki, Paz, Patrick, Chuck and Maggie show up (as "if" they would DARE not to!) it will be the fourth year for each of them. :-) Hugs, Ashara (Oh yeah, and the fourth year for me too!) (tee-hee) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:52:04 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Getting together (NJC) so did i miss TWO of them????????????????????? wallyK, IN SHOCK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de AsharaJM@aol.com Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 02:00 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Getting together (NJC) In a message dated 1/17/2001 10:55:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > no, michael, this is year number three! > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides to continue to be crazy enough to go through with it, will be year number 4!! And "if" she has it, and "if" Kakki, Paz, Patrick, Chuck and Maggie show up (as "if" they would DARE not to!) it will be the fourth year for each of them. :-) Hugs, Ashara (Oh yeah, and the fourth year for me too!) (tee-hee) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:55:30 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: FWIW (NJC) i just noticed that there are about one frigging thousand posts per month on the list. sheeeesh... wallyK, without a life ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:17:40 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Video Site BTW this is where I found that video info: www.mrvideo@mrvideos.com Night night, paz NP-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:16:40 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni Video Found this info online and wonder if this is already been tree'd??? I can't remember if this had been traded already. What stuff is on here? Paz NP-CD Burner Burning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:26:05 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) on 1/17/01 7:29 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > no, michael, this is year number three! > wallyK, sounding like sue correcting mingus > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Michael > Paz > Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 01:17 a.m. > Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Getting together > > >> > > Let me think about this awhile.. > OK I'M IN!!!! Year number Four!!! And I am not even going to ask permission! > Yippie! > > > Paz > > NP-Well Well Well-John Lennon > Wally Wally Wally Wallyfacio siempre con una nalga en el espacio. Dawling did you ingest some of the brown acid from Woodstock??? Here is the url: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jf0009ne.cfm of the Jonifests on this handy dandy memory jogger ( for the cannibisrecall syndrome ridden folk) called the jmdl.com with the caption under my picture with the lovely Ashara, and the divine Ms. Kahki, and my boy Patrick and what are we receiving??? our prize for perfect attendance of three years Ashara recognizes Patrick, Paz and Kakki for their perfect three-year Jonifest attendance with awards and hugs, of course Check it out and be there when I receive the prize for four years straight. Of course I will be moving with Ashara after this because I will be disowned, but WHAT THE FUCK HUH??? Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:28:02 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Getting together njc Dare I say it Wally??????? Oh yeah baby why NOT???????? nah nah nah nah nah on 1/17/01 9:00 PM, AsharaJM@aol.com at AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/17/2001 10:55:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > >> no, michael, this is year number three! >> > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides > to continue to be crazy enough to go through with it, will be year number 4!! > And "if" she has it, and "if" Kakki, Paz, Patrick, Chuck and Maggie show up > (as "if" they would DARE not to!) it will be the fourth year for each of > them. :-) > > Hugs, > Ashara > > (Oh yeah, and the fourth year for me too!) (tee-hee) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:29:32 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Getting together (NJC) on 1/17/01 9:52 PM, Wally Kairuz at wallykai@fibertel.com.ar wrote: > so did i miss TWO of them????????????????????? > wallyK, IN SHOCK > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > AsharaJM@aol.com > Enviado el: Jueves, 18 de Enero de 2001 02:00 a.m. > Para: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Getting together (NJC) > > > In a message dated 1/17/2001 10:55:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > >> no, michael, this is year number three! >> > Actually, (sorry Lori!!) this Labor Day Jonifest, 2001, "if" Ashara decides > to continue to be crazy enough to go through with it, will be year number > 4!! > And "if" she has it, and "if" Kakki, Paz, Patrick, Chuck and Maggie show up > (as "if" they would DARE not to!) it will be the fourth year for each of > them. :-) > > Hugs, > Ashara > > (Oh yeah, and the fourth year for me too!) (tee-hee) > No Wally THIS will be your third if you get there. Perhaps you better lie down dear. You're looking a little pale. Paz (snickering) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:40:37 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cat Help Wanted, NJC First I apologize for breaking a JMDL rule about posting "from within the ballpark." I get my new cat, Joan Roberta, tomorrow so I have some questions for the feline experts on the list. Is Janet still lurking? Catgirl? Colin? I want to discourage her from jumping onto the tops of the speakers and the turntable. (I don't want the tonearm to go skipping because of cat impacts on the cover.) Can I just cover the tops with sandpaper or plastic wrap or steel? Is there a texture that will lose interest? Is this a case of "Nothing Can Be Done?" Am I being a bad host? Should I just give her permission and instead put a towel on each top to keep scratches off the speakers' black lacquer, piano finish? A felt and plywood sandwich? A sloping "roof" for the turntable cover? "Lama and his feline, each of charm to sway, are staring eye to eye. They dare not look away. 'Ya know they dare not loooooook awayeeeeeee." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:01:57 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni's Favorite? Penny wrote: > This John Mayall painting is one of his that appears in the book STARART. > ....is it the painting itself that was *Joni's favorite* of > Mayall's contributions to the book?? Oh, yes, this explanation of the title (by whoever first used it) makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info Penny. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:01:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Getting together (NJC) this is most bewildering. i have a distinct recollection of having been to ashara's twice. oh, i see!!!! come NEXT september i will have been there THREE times. so missed only the first one... wallyK, befogged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No Wally THIS will be your third if you get there. Perhaps you better lie down dear. You're looking a little pale. Paz (snickering) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:38:51 -0800 From: "Catherine Coffey" Subject: re: Portland gathering Hey there fellow Oregonians - so far only Penny and I and possibly Catherine Turley have connected for a Joni-gathering. Please contact any of us off-list and lets get this organized! Cathy in Seaside _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #31 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?