From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2001 #25 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, January 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 025 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni at The Fez Nov. 7, '95 ["cassy" ] Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: cdbaby.com and so on [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC [claud9ine ] Joni's Life, Loves, Music & gay support? ["P. Henry" ] Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:04:50 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Joni at The Fez Nov. 7, '95 I found an interesting article about Joni's performance, on her birthday in 1995, at the Fez in New York. The article can be found at: http://atn.addict.com/ATN/Music_News_Of_The_World/95-11-09.html#HYNDE This includes the infamous Hynde attack on Carly Simon. An addition to the JMDL Performance search engine maybe? Cassy NP John Mellencamp "Jackie Brown" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:18:45 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) In a message dated 1/14/01 2:43:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: << I look absolutely nothing like this sub human Segal. Just cause we both wear pony tails. That's it I am chopping my hair off. Paz >> Michael I tried I tried. I tried very hard to convince them they were having delusions but I just wasnt successful. They began to chant Steven, Steven. MG and Nikki were doing the wave and everything. Of course now that i look at your photograph I think you look more like Jean Claude van damme. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:30:40 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: cdbaby.com and so on In a message dated 1/9/2001 6:36:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, sprout@eircom.net writes: > Bob all your talk of cdbaby.com reminds me of a singer named Sam Shaber, i > have mentioned her on teh list before. and somehow Ashara took it on > herself > to go and see Sam play in Boston and i'm sure she can back me up when i say > that Sam is an artist definitely to be heard. Yes, I can back you up on Sam Shaber, Garret. Absolutely. (Even though I am very late in responding.) Her CD's are great, and she is definitely a big Joni fan! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:35:53 -0500 From: claud9ine Subject: Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC How about...next time we'll skip the sandwich and go for an international stir-fry!!!!!! :-) Thanks for the birthday wishes! hugs, Claud9 From: FMYFL@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:30:43 EST To: john.van.tiel@wxs.nl, joni@smoe.org Cc: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar, claud9ine@home.com Subject: Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC In a message dated 1/14/01 5:38:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, john.van.tiel@wxs.nl writes: It must have been the tofu, Wally. What say you, deep-South James? Claud? John, I say there's nothing like a good ole SanSoucie sandwich :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:24:27 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Joni's Life, Loves, Music & gay support? hi gang, I am really excited as I just made and won my first ever bid on ebay and it is for an oop book published in '76 called "Joni Mitchell: Her Life, Her Loves, Her Music". I think it's been mentioned onlist before but I don't recall the reviews... So I'd appreciate any input/info on my new treasure anyone can give me... :o) Also, (and forgive me if this has already been spoken of as I'm way behind on my digests as usual) I was surprised to find the following item listed as I was unaware of it's existence. Let me say first that I am not gay and, personally, have always found the rants on personal gay relationships onlist as inappropriate because 1) as I said, it is personal and I never saw the same thing from the non-gay listers about their relationships, (which, btw, I would find just as boring unless it was somehow relevant to something Joni) 2) I've never known of any particular interest Joni had in gay society or any specific relevance of it to her music in general other than the fact that the beauty of her art seems to attract gays and str8s alike, and 3) being str8 myself, it just didn't interest me... (Hey, I'm entitled to my opinion, ain't I? ;o) ) However... I must admit I was surprised to find the following item on ebay which certainly indicates Joni's support/interest in, at least, the LA gay community as, considering how many things she decidedly does *not* participate in/ support, I'm sure her contribution of BYT was not included without her expressed desire and intent that it be so... and, as this is a side of Joni I am unfamiliar with, I am therefore curious to know if any of you, especially LA listers, know any more about it: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1402442784 Artist: Various Artists ** Title: Outfest 99 Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Film Festival ** Reprise PRO CD 9879 ** Released in 1999 ** From The Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Film Festival & Reprise Records comes this 12 track radio station promotional advance featuring the following artists/songs: 1.Yaz (Dont Go)(3:22) 2.Nu Flavor (Sprung)(4:38) 3.Orgy (Blue Monday)(3:45) 4.Thor-El (Patiently)(4:22) 5.SRC (Vulcan)(4:00) 6.Filter (Cancer)(6:39) 7.Shootyz Groove (Dear God)(Oh My God)(4:02) 8.Callahan (What Reason)(3:16) 9.Thisway (Crawl)(3:18) 10.Sasha (If You Believe)(4:00) 11.Penelope Houston (Scum)(2:59) 12.Joni Mitchell (Big Yellow Taxi)(3:57) cheers, pat NP: Ribbon Of Darkness - Lightfoot http://homepages.go.com/~badwolff/albums/album1/ Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:44:18 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Politics and religion (NJC) In a message dated 1/14/01 2:10:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, SMEBD@aol.com writes: << If he means that his religious beliefs are inborn as was his sexuality, then I have to disagree. If spirituality is inborn, then so would be non-belief. And Christianity is well know for converting. >> first, i'm not offended at anything that has been said. i was frustrated when i felt that people were not able to listen to my experience with out having to find a pre-ordered framwork to fit it in. im over that now. and i would say something about clark at this point...i love clark's emotional intensity. he can not hide his feelings for very long and when he lets them out they come out as they really are and i like that in him. even if it pisses me off. you have to like clark. he's too original to not. now to this above here, i have a thought. first, let me clarify something. i speak of spirituality and faith experience. i am not speaking of belief. beliefs are uncertains. we hope, we believe, but we don't really know. but the experience i speak of is proven in my experience and i have had such faith experiences and i do think they are as innate as sexuality. the problem with them is i can't prove them to you or anyone. but that's ok. now to your words about non-belief being innate and conversion. i want to suggest something. i look at conversion like......coming out. it is not a new thing being planted in someone who did not have it. it is not non-belief becoming belief. it is the spiritual man awakening from within. it's a reclaiming of a natural born quality that rested dormant for years in someone who was unable to see it earlier, for whatever reason. now....that's a decent answer, isn't it. patrick np. tv ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:55:01 EST From: FHejira@aol.com Subject: ho'liness njc g'day from down under.all of this talk about holiness now must be the start of the latest style! BEST WISHES FRANK CALDWELL(FHEJIRA@AOL.COM.AU) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:18:41 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) Michael, Maybe you could FORCE Segal to cut off his ponytail. Ya know- so YOU can keep it. I think you should call him out. I think you could take him. Lama Paz said, Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:33:46 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) I look absolutely nothing like this sub human Segal. Just cause we both wear pony tails. That's it I am chopping my hair off. Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:39:15 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Jazz", Monday Night, NJC Those in the US- the fourth episode is Monday night. Don't miss it. To those not in the US- see what you're missing? :) Just kidding!! Lama, an ugly middle American ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:17:11 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC In the now infamous words of Catgirl. WHOOOOO-HOOOOOO! Paz (ache in tooth finally go way. thanks to many folks for recommendations to ease pain. i found slamming door on foot was best remedy. Make me forget pain in tooth. clove was # 2 remedy) on 1/14/01 5:35 PM, claud9ine at claud9ine@home.com wrote: How about...next time we'll skip the sandwich and go for an international stir-fry!!!!!! :-) Thanks for the birthday wishes! hugs, Claud9 From: FMYFL@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:30:43 EST To: john.van.tiel@wxs.nl, joni@smoe.org Cc: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar, claud9ine@home.com Subject: Re: january 13!!!!!! NJC In a message dated 1/14/01 5:38:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, john.van.tiel@wxs.nl writes: It must have been the tofu, Wally. What say you, deep-South James? Claud? John, I say there's nothing like a good ole SanSoucie sandwich :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:21:46 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Word from MG's House of Anchovies(NJC) on 1/14/01 5:18 PM, MDESTE1@aol.com at MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/01 2:43:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, > jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: > > << I look absolutely nothing like this sub human Segal. Just cause we both > wear > pony tails. That's it I am chopping my hair off. > > Paz >> > > Michael I tried I tried. I tried very hard to convince them they were having > delusions but I just wasnt successful. They began to chant Steven, Steven. MG > and Nikki were doing the wave and everything. Of course now that i look at > your photograph I think you look more like Jean Claude van damme. marcel > Put on youor asbestos suit you bastard! That's ok. I have pics of you that i will bring to LA and paste them on the face of this CHEAP voodoo doll I bought in the quarter (brings new meaning to the term $18 bucks went up in smoke) and we'll see if we can't make you need a little moisturizer in a few key locations. I WOULD have liked to seen Nikki and MG doing the wave though.. Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:22:25 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: Jungle Line, ~~ an essay, very long, 100% Joni Mitchell Content!! In a message dated 1/14/01 3:38:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << I recall the great thread (last Spring, I believe) which discussed the houses on the HOSL cover and how they may have represented houses Joni lived in throughout her life. When I later viewed Ashara's video of Joni's house in Maidstone, there was that thrill of recognition immediately! Tanya, you may want to do a search in the digests for this thread - it is really fascinating reading. There are also several other in-depth posts from around the same time that greatly illuminate the themes in the HOSL album. Kakki >>Sounds like a great idea! How can I check out these archives? I've been listening to the album as a whole and loving it, but Jungle Line is still a little rough. The music reminds me of something I once heard by Bjork, but I can't remember what.] Thanks again for your input! : ) tanya in nyc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:42 +1000 From: john low Subject: A Note From Ange in Bangkok NJC Hi everyone, For those of you who remember young Ange who has made the move from Sydney to Thailand, I received this lovely piece of writing from her the other day giving her early impressions of Bangkok. I thought many of you would enjoy it and would like to know how Ange is settling in. She has given me permission to post it to the jmdl  and she is wondering if any Joni tours or Jonifests are planned for Thailand! :-) John (in Sydney) PS.I'd be happy to pass on any thoughts or messages. HI PEOPLE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED....HERE ARE: SOME THINGS IVE NOTICED ABOUT BANGKOK. In Bangkok, motorbikes are the cheapest and quickest way to get around town. Most of the drivers wear helmets  its the rest of the family clinging to the back of the bike who go without. Sometimes theres a schoolgirl with her backpack on - her arms wrapped tightly around her fathers waist. Sometimes there are three children all clinging to each other as they straddle the bike seat. Often theres a baby, maybe a couple of months old  his little body resting on his mothers knee  her one arm around the child  her other around the man whos driving the bike. In Bangkok, theres constant noise  security guards blowing their whistles, tuk tuks buzzing by, bikes whizzing along the highway and an endless stream of meterd-taxis. There are roosters shouting in nearby slums and street vendors bells ringing as they push their carts full of fruit and fish along the roadside. In Bangkok, theres always a smell and most of the time its not a nice one. The rotting egg stench from the traffic fumes  the fishy smell that rises from the roadside woks. The smell of dirty dogs and dirty puddles and something dying in a dark side-street. But there are the good smells too  like the lemongrass and fresh herbs in the Tom Yum Gung soup and the smoky insense burning in the shop fronts. In Bangkok, the high rise buildings reach all the way to the sun and shadow the shanty towns that spread out beneath them. The shacks and corrigated iron mish-mash that thousands of people call home. In the heart of the business district there are the air-conditioned shopping centres where you can buy all the comforts of the western world  while outside some blind beggar sits crossed legged near the gutter  singing into a microphone  hoping to attract a few Baht. In Bangkok, the men hok up gunk from their lungs and spit it out at your feet. Theres not a footpath in the city that isnt splattered with the flem of some skanky man. And in between the flem  are the malnourished dogs  their bodies covered in lice and who knows what other parasites. Some cant walk  they just drag themselves along the ground and hope someone will toss them something to eat. In Bangkok, you can drive along the tollway  past highrise after highrise and then be struck by the beauty of a Buddhist temple  glowing gold amongst the grey. In Bangkok, the pavements are never level. Theres always a hole to fall into  a dug-up-but of footpath  a cable spurting out of the concrete to trip on  a bit of broken wood covering a drain. The city never sleeps  even after dark it buzzes. The food vendors heat up their woks  tossing noodles and rice around in the bubbling oil. And food is a street-thing  everyone is eating on the street  sitting on little plastic stools as the taxis speed by  slurping duck soup from some plastic bowl that has been washed in a big plastic bin full of who knows what kind of water  by the roadside. In Bangkok, they are obsessed with straws. Every 7-Eleven you go to will chuck a few straws into your plastic bag  just in case you want to slurp down a litre of milk on the way home. In Bangkok there are no "real" traffic lanes. It is just - wherever you want to go and which ever gap in the traffic your vehicle can squeeze through. In Bangkok, you feel alive. Maybe its because you are always sweating, always kept alert by the whistles and buzzing traffic, always smelling something, seeing something strange and new. And you seem to feel alive the most when you face death  often on the back of a Tuk Tuk  speeding down a busy Bangkok road  trusting three small wheels and a young Thai guy to get you to your destination in one piece. And you nearly dont make it when he runs a light, comes close to ramming up the back of a taxi, tries to invent his own lane and doesnt hear you shouting "stop stop". He smiles as you hand him 40 baht  you smile because you are still aliveand living in Bangkok. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2001 #25 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?